We Married Margo

We Married Margo

Dan: as part of bacon week.

Sidey: Yeah. We did say in the first one that there are varying levels of bacon. Yeah. And there's not much bacon

Dan: not much bacon to

Sidey: the movie is called We Married Margot

Dan: is called We Married Margot. Yeah,

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah, Billy Dozier. Yeah, it's a true story about those two guys.

Dan: Yeah and it's an interesting premise in the fact that they both married Margo and then they end up living

Sidey: At separate times.

Dan: Yeah. So,

Reegs: What, the two men who married Margot end up living together?

Dan: Exactly.

Cris: Really? Yeah.

Dan: And and so how do they get on? As, as kind of partners. So the first guy,

Reegs: What, are they romantic partners? Yes.

Dan: no, no, it's Jake, Jake and rock. So they're straight guys who have independently met. And married this woman Margot

Cris: In their past. In their past. Right, okay. And,

Dan: Rock is having a bit of a bad time of it after the divorce and part of the reason for the divorce was advice From jake about her not being

happy.

She wants

Sidey: it sets up the backstory of Jake being someone who's always given people advice and he's got his little stall as a kid, like a primary school kid.

Dan: a lemonade

Sidey: and there's a massive long queue of people, like grown ups going and asking for advice. And his main one that he says is, keep the dog, lose the husband.

Keep the dog, lose the husband. That's what he tells Rock later on down the line. It's supposed to be funny. So the style of it, I couldn't fucking believe it when I found out this was a 2000s film.

I thought it was 80s.

Dan: Well, it is very independent feel about it. It's got I'm not sure the budget and things

Sidey: like that.

Stylistically, so the way it goes is that the two blokes are

Probably more

than 50 percent of the time talking directly to the camera. Okay. And if they're not, they're talking directly to like someone in a restaurant. And, whilst they're talking, it might cut to another location, but the conversation is the same.

Do you remember the F. A. R. S. T. show? Paul Whitehouse had that character

Dan: It's brilliant. Yeah, yeah. And

Sidey: clouds brilliant? And it would cut to different places. It's like that. The editing in this will give you a fucking migraine. It is so fucking constant. And

Dan: it didn't me,

Sidey: well, it didn't land for me.

Stylistically. Yeah. It's, it felt like something that, which should have been on MTV or something. It's just like constant, constant change, change, change, change,

change.

Dan: Yeah. I totally agree with that. But it, it wasn't quite as hectic as the far show, but it did have moments,

Sidey: But it is like that they'll be having a conversation in a restaurant. It'll cut to them at home.

It'll cut to them in a bar. It'll cut and it's

Reegs: to And it's just What they're

Sidey: it's trying to show you is that they're just constantly telling this story to different people and the other people, people listening to don't care. They're just like looking at

Dan: and the two guys have very little in common and they don't look alike and they don't act alike. Jake is a smaller guy, sort of a

Reegs: Who's the actor? Is

Dan: Italian. So that's Jay Shapiro,

Cris: I think they play themselves, no?

Sidey: yeah.

Cris: David

Dan: Shapiro. And

Sidey: William Dozier is

Dan: and William Dozier. Yeah. It, it, it plays Rock, who's obviously, you know,

looks

Sidey: Bax is Margot, although we never really see her

Dan: You never see Margot, she's always got something over her face, and she speaks in that kind of Charlie Brown

Sidey: Yeah, like the teacher. She

Reegs: wee wee

Dan: Like that all the time, so, even on the phone or any, any moment with her, you don't see

Sidey: And she's awful. She's awful. They, they show the way she behaves and stuff. She's like terrible.

Dan: she behaves and stuff, she's terrible. Yeah, so there'd be like superstars all

Sidey: Yeah, so they'll be like superstars of the time so you get Cindy Crawford Oh, I met my was with Margo then and then I woke up and I had this beauty spot and then I I grew You know 10 inches and I lost 70 pounds because I met Margo and someone else. They'll be like Peyton Stewart Oh, I I met Margo then I won the US Open or this sort of shit

Dan: Margot and then I won the US

Reegs: intriguing I think I

Dan: that sort of shit. I didn't want to make it sound intriguing!

Totally strained because Jake's a writer. He wants quiet, although he's agreed because Margo's asked him if he can look after Rock or move him in for a few

Reegs: I was gonna say, how have they come to live

Dan: it soon becomes a, a strain. So Margo is, is, is,

Put him in contact and said, look, he needs a place to stay. He hasn't got anywhere. Okay.

You can stay a few days. He brings around all the good stuff. He says, Margo took everything, but I got all the good stuff. And he goes, that ain't a good stuff. That's like my old stuff. She's the stuff she doesn't want. He goes, that used to be mine. That used to be mine. That he finds room for it all. But he's all like one of those people that doesn't hug.

Whereas rock is a big hugger. And that's. You know, it becomes apparent and they're not going to get along all the time, although they do at different points. They do have a laugh and a joke and, and a lot of it is coming from a time in the future when they're not living together and they're looking back on their relationship and some of the

Sidey: things Well, Rock, Rock comes from money, doesn't he? Yeah. He comes from money and so his, he goes on about his routine and he'll sort of get up, he'll have this like really fucking luxurious breakfast and he'll sit and read the paper, then he'll go to the gym, then he'll come home and do another few bits.

Whereas Jake has nothing, he's a writer, you sometimes see him, he's just got like a tiny little desk and a fucking laptop, it's hilarious, his laptop's like about six foot thick and he just sort of writes and after a while Rock kind of looks at him and sort of has this sort of romanticized version of a writer, he's like, well, you know, I

Dan: I could do

Sidey: doing that, because I don't mean to be insulting, but if you can do it, I reckon I should have a go, and he's like, that's really patronizing

Dan: But yeah, he juices first thing in the morning with this, you know, Jake wants to sleep and he just doesn't pick up on

Reegs: it.

He's got the Mark Wahlberg schedule.

Sidey: Yeah. So, but when he is, when he's split from Margot, Jake says, well, why don't you just go back to your old man's, you know, he is got a mansion and all that. And he's says, oh, man's just kicked him out. He, no, you, we don't want you coming back here. You fuck off like he sort yourself out now, you know.

Dan: it's a bit of

Sidey: That's why he ends up, that's why Jake takes him

Dan: of a strained relationship.

And there's a few sort of scenes where he's, they go out together and try and get some girls for rock really. So he can go, Jake says, well, you know, maybe somebody else can take care of him a little bit. And because he's so needy, he can't be on his own. It's like Pete, you know, he just rock is like.

Just will not be on his own for a moment and Jake likes to think he's like that, but actually when he's on his own for long enough, he either goes back to things that Tracy is long kind of suffering girlfriend.

Sidey: they split up about 20 times

Dan: up all the time or he's looking at rock and things that they used to do and even like arguments they had that he's kind of reminiscing of and you know i miss those kind of things so they talk about being the dog people or cat people and you know you're either independent a cat And you want your food and fuck off, or you're a dog and you want looking after and feeding and and all the rest of it and want to be with somebody all the time.

I would say I'm a bit of both, you know, I have a bit of dog and cat, which is basically what this film comes down to that each of us are a little bit of both and although we might be more cat people we've got a bit of dog in us as well and

Sidey: as well. is Mr. Bacon, and he unveils a flipchart which is the six degrees of Margot, obviously

the six degrees of Kevin Bacon thing, which is what we were doing last week, which is how we got into Bacon

Week.

Dan: Come full circle with this film.

Sidey: and he's put me in it for about 15 seconds, I'd say.

Reegs: Alright. What, does he just appear just to explain that,

Sidey: do that,

Reegs: oh

Dan: that and he has one little bit right at the credits at the end as well as does Cindy Crawford and, and the little blooper bits that they, they do. But it, it's not one of those films that really has something definite at the end

Sidey: they do, when he talks, when Rock talks about being a writer, what they end up doing is they work on writing a story about how they both married Margot, which is this film.

Reegs: film. Oh, I fucking hated

Sidey: I fucking hated it.

It's dreadful. No,

Dan: I enjoyed it. It was a kind of independent budget film that had lots of clever writing. I enjoyed the writing. I enjoyed the stories and the way that they told it. I appreciate it wasn't like the best director maybe, or the best,

Sidey: No, I would say

Dan: the actors.

I liked Rock. I thought he

Sidey: it's very much of its time and the style is, is very,

Dan: before that

Sidey: well, no, it's just, it's the kind of thing that you either like that or you don't, I don't, I don't. Really like the two leads in it. So and they're on the screen the whole time, you know

Reegs: Did they go on to do anything else, Dave Shapiro, did he go

Sidey: recognize the name dave shapiro, but I can't pick but I probably could have looked it up but I didn't

Dan: I think, yeah, he did,

Sidey: I think he's probably just a writer not just a writer But I think what I mean is I think he's

Dan: men in

Sidey: behind the camera as opposed to starring in

Dan: and what he reminded me, maybe it wasn't the guy in sideways,

Reegs: Paul Gi.

Sidey: No, Thomas, Thomas Hayden Church does look quite a lot

Dan: He looks a little bit like, well, yeah, they are different

Sidey: But yeah, the stylistically, it's really busy. Like, it's constantly cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, and there's just these cameos thrown in. It, and it gives you these quotes every now and then to try and split it up into different chapters. For me, it didn't work but obviously for Dan, it, it

did.

Dan: me, I enjoyed it, I was pleasantly surprised, I hadn't seen it before, I was just looking for something Kevin Bacon that I hadn't seen, and, and that wasn't necessarily, you know, just needed Kevin Bacon in it.

Reegs: in it. Yeah um, so I couldn't When I was watching it, I

Sidey: So I couldn't, when I was watching it, I hadn't looked up when it was from. So you've got Tom Arnold Cindy Crawford, Erika Strada Marco Mira and Payne Stewart, and then Kevin Bacon. And then he does his six degrees thing, and I was thinking, Okay, this is must be like later than I thought it was and then it's 2000.

I'm like, wow, this looks I thought it would be like 85 or something the way it looks in the way

Dan: it did look older than, than that. Maybe it was just the,

Sidey: that was when the story took

Dan: this is actually available to watch free on Vimeo.

Sidey: Place you'll find

Dan: and it's, you can watch, I think it, You could find it as a paid thing on some channels, but why do that if you watch it free on vimeo?

So I would check it out. It's an hour and a half. Maybe comes in a little bit shy of that. I liked it. I think it's a strong recommend. Well done dan

Sidey: I didn't like it at all. Strong recommend for me though. Are, are we quizzing?

Dan: No, we will do the bake on bake off, quiz in the next episode

Sidey: right?