Warm Bodies & Z-O-M-B-I-E-S

Warm Bodies

Reegs: Welcome to Bad Dad's Film Review, the Film Review podcast, which proves that great movies and responsible parenting don't always go hand in decaying hand. A quick spoiler warning, we're gonna spill more beans than a chef with Parkinson's, and we forgot our bleepers, so you'll hear all the buggers and bums and poos and stuff.

This week's theme is zombies, and whether you're a fan of the Slow shuffle or the fl Furious flail, we've probably got you covered. And we start things off by compiling a list of the top five zombies in cinematic history, and then after that, start barricading your doors and sharpening your machetes.

Because this week we're sinking our teeth into not one but two zombie themed movies, beginning with the 2013 Nicholas Holt romantic comedy warm bodies, and as if all that Zomm Romcom action wasn't enough for you. We are reviewing the sensation if you're a six year old girl. That is, as I know many of

Sidey: our, I was made for this,

Reegs: Yeah.

Disney plus movie Zed dash O dash m dash B dash i dash e dash s, which is gonna be a real mouthful to say throughout the show, but I will persist with it because you have to spell it like that to get hits on anything, which is really annoying.

Sidey: Oh God.

Reegs: God. Yeah. All that's left to do is introduce the dad starting with Sidi, who of course, returning to the show Victorious, having fulfilled his dreams of winning the International Synchronized Lawn Mowing Race Racing Championship.

And I know you're in training for your next sporting endeavor, bungee chess. Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: So,

Sidey: yeah,

Reegs: it's good of you to be here.

Dan: up and down, isn't it?

Reegs: We've got Cupid's cappuccino himself, Chris, and they say Beau's in the eye of the beholder. So when Chris is around, suddenly everyone's an art connoisseur. And finally despite me having done well over 150 of these introductions now, most of which I've used to outline exactly what this show is about, I e a bunch of film enthusiast dads catching up on the movies they missed.

It seems as if there is at least one listener who hasn't quite grasped what the show is about. That's right. I'm talking about co-host Dan, who was completely stunned last week when Side said he hadn't seen a movie and I You couldn't move on from it for a few minutes.

Dan: Yeah, no, it doesn't take a lot

Reegs: you know what the show is about.

Dan: I'm learning I every, every time I just seem to pick up a little bit more bit whether it sticks or not. Yeah. That's another thing. But I mean,

Reegs: If you remember next week

Dan: there was some epic, epic television this week wasn't there?

Sidey: Let's move on.

Dan: Okay. We should, cuz that's all I've watched this week. Yeah. Was the

Reegs: Well, no, we also started off zombie themed week with a movie about a mummy.

Sidey: We did. Yeah. I, I wanted, I, I wanted it to be exclusively zombies.

Yeah. But I also wanted to watch Baba Hotep, so I just shoehorned that in.

Dan: We're talking about zombies and mummies.

Reegs: Yeah. Is there something you wanna talk about?

Dad? There

Dan: There was a massive football match this week where you

Sidey: man

Dan: whole of Florentina beautiful, beautiful place.

Fantastic football team as well. But unfortunately it just came up short against the mighty hammers cuz we are fucking massive.

Reegs: Yeah, you

were

Sidey: How many

Cris: edit, we'll edit up.

Dan: I'm gonna,

Sidey: times have you watched that match now,

Dan: I, I've watched it at least sort of five or six times the

Reegs: Because you barely saw it on the night.

Dan: Yeah, no, I, that's right.

I'd had a, a few celebratory beverages before leading into it and there's a few nerves I won't go on about that all night because I know Pete would want to talk about it with us while we're here. So I'll save a little bit for him for next time.

Great.

Sidey: Great. So that was it. You didn't watch anything else?

Dan: I did watch the homework and then literally it's just been about

You know, Bowen being on fire,

Cris: I watched Oh, do you know what I, I did watch quite a few bit. Did I, did I say I can't remember last time? Did I say that I watched John week four? I did watch that one.

But pardon?

You've seen them all. I've seen them all. Yeah. But I, I'm not really sure why, but, and I, I'm, I, I know what to expect. I don't expect some Oscar-winning performance. I know what to expect. He gets there and kills everyone. I just thought this time was too much.

Sidey: Oh, really?

Cris: really? Even for me, who I love killing or too much

Dan: Keanu or too

Cris: No, too

Sidey: you can't have too much kiani

Cris: too. No, no. I love him. But it is just like, he, it is just so much killing. Yeah. I, I know what to expect. And even from, does that, I dunno, does that make sense? When you watch something and you know what to expect

Sidey: Yeah. Well, I have have a similar one we, we, I'll tell you about in a minute.

Cris: And,

it's just like I was thinking, fuck, you know, is is another one because it just goes from a scene to another scene, to another scene.

And then obviously the climax is going to, to the Sako parties is going to Paris, he's going to on, on the way to Sako and honestly, That's half an hour of just killing hundreds and hundreds of people

Sidey: shooting them in the face. Probably quite a lot of them.

Cris: All sorts, all in the dick, in the ass, in the toes, in the face. It's, it's because there's so many, you know, I, I think Hitler didn't kill that many people.

I

haven't

Sidey: seen that.

Reegs: I

haven't seen them before yet.

Cris: Oh, this, it's amazing.

Reegs: I know. It's really long. Yeah. That was, I did think, gosh, that it's a long running time, but I, I've enjoyed everything I've seen of the John Week franchise so far. So,

Sidey: Mm.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Did you catch, because you've been away Reese, did you have a good holiday?

Reegs: Yeah, yeah, it was great actually. Thank you. Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah.

Good. Yeah. And did you manage to see anything? But

Reegs: Yeah, I actually saw three horror movies all with really good endings. And one in particular, St. Ward was really, really good. A British

Sidey: independent

I know the one you mean. Yeah.

Reegs: With a really shocking ending. And yeah, that was great.

And a couple of there was an Alex Garland one, I think it was men, and another one called Revelation with Tim Roth in it as well. All with like, really both men and, and Revelation, both of these terrifically fucked up endings. So recommend those. Okay.

Sidey: Well

I mentioned it last week, but I watched Annihilation, which Alex Garland.

Yeah, that is a pretty fucked up, weird ending. But this week I watched, I a big fan of this franchise, so that tells you where I'm going with this Fast X Yeah. I watched on Friday and we'd watched Fast Nine a few nights earlier cuz that Can

Dan: we talking fast and a furious?

Sidey: Yeah. Fast Nine.

Dan: gone up to 10.

Sidey: Yeah. And it's, it's a multi-part end so it's X like one, you know, there's gonna be more.

Reegs: Isn't Jason Maoa in it? And everything I've seen, he looks amazing in it.

Sidey: He looks amazing. He's, but he does a kind of bad, he's sledge a joke impression throughout. Right. He's like a camp kind of.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Super villain. And it finished and like, they're great. Okay. And we watched nine, loved it. We was like, this is so good. The out space. Amazing. And then you watched this one and I then I was like, was that shit? And she's Kayla's like, Yeah, that was fucking awful. And I, I honestly can't put my finger on why it was so bad, but he's just like indestructible villain who just keeps appearing and like they can't do anything.

And I don't know whether it was just like, it just peaked at nine and now this is just not, it is just not good. So yeah, but it was pretty wonk and disappointing. And then the homework, yeah, that was it. Yeah.

Reegs: Strong

Sidey: Yeah. We had a top five last week which was Space Journeys. Yeah. I think we went through quite a few of them.

When we were chatting last week, red Dwarf got a lot of love. What we didn't mention though was that Bevis mentioned Prometheus and then Mav just fucking panned him, which was great. Promeus is so bad. It devalues the originals, which was like, I really enjoyed that. Yeah. So I'm tempted to put Prometheus in on that basis.

Yeah.

Reegs: Well, it's split. Our le

Sidey: Brey Brey put in LEP Acorn four in space or Hell Razr Bloodline. Yeah. And

Dan: LN four in space. I've seen like these

Sidey: I want to watch all of the Epon films. I haven't seen any of them.

Dan: I've never seen any, I don't think I'd wanna watch 'em all one after each other, but,

Reegs: But

Dan: I'd like to know, which is

Reegs: paradise.

He's in one of them.

Dan: Really?

I'd like to know which one is the best and, and

Sidey: I think they're all

Reegs: four is good. The, the in space is good and the one where he is with

Dan: Do you, you've seen these, do you need to have watched the others to appreciate Yeah,

They're

Sidey: doing another one as well. I read this morning there's gonna be another one.

Or Mel's Capricorn One cause it has OJ Simpson in, so I think Lepor four is a good shout though. Should I put that in? Lepor four leor, boom.

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: I finally got around to finishing my autobiography this week.

Dan: Oh, nice.

Sidey: It hasn't sold a single copy story of my life.

Dan: Oh,

Sidey: Anyway, I put out a tweet about top five Zombies. Most people have come back with zombie films. I was, when I was doing it, thinking about zombie specific zombies.

Reegs: Oh,

Dan: Oh, well I've, I've gone with specific zombies as well.

Sidey: but either, either is a winner's, just,

Dan: in films.

Sidey: do that.

Reegs: I've gone for a few specific ones and a few films.

Sidey: Right. Okay, cool. Well, why don't you set the ball rolling.

Reegs: no, God, not me. I've got a quiz for us as well,

Sidey: Okay, cool.

Reegs: wants

Dan: The zombie quiz. Yeah. Hmm.

Undead.

Reegs: Well probably. Well, if we're gonna go with zombies, why don't we just talk about The Walking Dead?

There were a few really,

Dan: Never

Cris: I mean either.

Dan: No. You, yeah. Chris and I

Sidey: a billion series of it and at least two spinoff series and there'll be more films of it. Right. And what was that, Andrew Lincoln in? Warm bodies.

Reegs: I don't know. I forgot to look it up. I, so I know who you mean

Sidey: though. Yeah. Yeah. I've around and I was like, and I didn't, I also forgot to look up anyway.

Yeah, sorry, walking down.

Reegs: well, just that there were memorable. Specific zombies in this TV

Dan: So this, this was a hit TV series?

Reegs: Well, it was a, it was a graphic novel first.

I've got the first four, like in a big block of them at, at home. And they're really good.

Sidey: so

it's, it's a virus. Anyone, you don't have to be bitten.

Anyone who dies will turn.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Oh, right. So when you die, you turn.

Sidey: Yeah. Unless you are like shot in the head type of thing. The classic kill is

Dan: Right. So you, it, it's quite good though, isn't it, then because you don't

Sidey: it was, it was great for a period, this series.

Reegs: Yeah.

For a long period.

Sidey: And then it, and then it fucked itself.

Reegs: Yeah. It just, I mean it, you know, it was always about the same thing, which is how the people that were left were worse than the people, you know, worse than the zombie threat sort of thing. And it was just always that. And then it just had to outdo itself by becoming relentlessly

bleak.

And

Sidey: would, every series would like, oh, we found somewhere safe.

Oh no, it turns out to be a shit show. So we'll move to somewhere. And it, it just became very cyclical of like, oh, here's the next place that's gonna inevitably go that way.

Reegs: But it did

Dan: three seasons, it, it was decent.

Yeah.

Reegs: And it gave some really specific great zombies.

I can think of early on you had the one, the fat one in the, well, the huge one when they're like, it's poisoning the water and they have to get it out and then it gets clubb to death and they've got the bicycle girl, like I think one of the first zombies that Rick sees in part of the promotional material.

She's just sort of like a little girl dragging herself along attached to a bicycle. Obviously you've got the governor, he was one of the great early villains and Penny with the daughter and the heads in inside his like fish tanky type

thing. and

Sidey: well Penny, so Penny is this the human guy who's the governor of this town, one of these safe towns that they go to. His daughter's been turned and he's got a kind of caged and they're spying on him and they see that at night. He gets her out and like Yeah. Tries to comb her hair and stuff while her scalp is coming off the fucking grim.

There was one in really early on where it's just ahead, I think, trying to like bite while it's on the floor and he like, fuck, there's no stopping these fuckers. Yeah.

Reegs: And Shaun, she was this badass character. She used to be transported around by these like two pet zombies that she kept on a,

Sidey: She'd pulled all their teeth out.

Reegs: Yeah. And then later they had these like crazy, almost like an art installation. These zombies like attached to me with like metal coming out of them and all sorts of shit.

And yeah. So a lot of good individual walking dead zombie imagery.

Sidey: Mm-hmm.

Dan: Nice. Okay. Chris, you're not a massive zombie fan, are you?

Do you? You're a big zombie. Watch

Cris: I've only got one if, if anyone wants to listen. The only I've, I've seen a few of them.

Sidey: Is it the Aerosmith video again?

Cris: No, no. It's an actual movie. Okay. With our friend which we were talking about on Saturday. Who, by the way, if, if that is true, he is an absolute hero. The one with Bill Murray Zombieland. Yeah. That's the only one I actually can say I enjoyed, but apparently he's now dating Kise, so that is a definite win.

Sidey: win. Did you hear about this dad? Yeah. Bill Murray and Kise,

her milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.

Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah,

Dan: The what,

Reegs: Her milkshake. She's got a milkshake and it brings all the boys to the yard

Dan: and bill's,

Sidey: does the rap songs.

Dan: Bill's,

Sidey: they're, they're data. They're stepping double taping.

Dan: Okay.

Well, the, the the

Cris: the Zombieland is the only one I can recommend.

Dan: the, the zombie land actually is, is fantastic cuz Bill plays a cameo of a zombie.

That actually isn't a zombie. He's Bill Murray, who's dressed up and shuffling around. He's one of the funniest, yeah, it was one of the funniest things when I saw this for the first time, because it turns out that. In a world full of zombies, they go to Bill Murray's house because they're looking for a place to hold down and, and chill out and wear better than the, the big BM kind of gates that they go through.

These huge gates right. Backs onto a lovely golf course and bill's there going, ah, I normally get you couple of rounds in and I'll just shuffle along there. It's pi treat me pretty good. You know, he just dresses up as a zombie and everything and they can't believe it. And they're all just absolutely buzzing to, to know him until they somebody who hasn't been in the room comes through and shoots him because they think he's a zombie.

Because he's, he's so well

Sidey: he has that funny line about Garfield.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. He goes, I have no regrets. Maybe Garfield, but and he has this huge, long kind of, dead

Reegs: drawn out death

Dan: drawn out dead zone. It, it's a really, really good one. Yeah. I like that

Cris: that That's the only one I have

Dan: We're in that film actually.

Cuz I, I wanted to talk about it a little bit just for the fact there are so many different kind of zombies in there. Yeah. That have their own characters. I think there's one that is like Beyonce or something, and there's another that's comedians. There's all different kind of zombies have got their own characters.

I dunno, maybe you gave me a funny look when I said

Reegs: Well, is it zombie? Is it Beyonce is as a zombie

Dan: it's somebody just Beyonce up as a zombie?

Sidey: just trying

to remember it. That's all. That's just my funny look.

Dan: yeah, it's got, it is got tons. There's like a hippie zombie. There's a, I think there's a, a Stephen Hawkings zombie. There's, there's tons of different zombies in there.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure there

Sidey: are.

Dan: You look in the right, there's, there's lots going on, on, on scene.

Sidey: Cool. Cool phobia.

Cool Phobia.

Dan: No,

Sidey: it's the fear of clowns,

Reegs: All right.

Sidey: Keno more to phobia mm-hmm. Is the fear of zombies. And if you put those together, there's a clown zombie in zombie land,

Dan: Well, that's

Sidey: so you can tick off two

Dan: Dead funny.

Sidey: Phobia boxes in one. That's good. So there's that. Do you want Davina McCall is

Reegs: Yeah. How about Davina McCall?

Yeah.

Sidey: from Deadset, which is Charlie Brooker's. Like social media kind of,

Reegs: big, it was like big brother thing

Sidey: TV send up. Yeah. With zombies. And I hate Davina McCall.

Reegs: Yeah, she's good in that though. Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah.

So I thought we've never mentioned Davina McCall before, so she's gotta go.

Reegs: Yeah. Agreed. Yeah.

Well, I've only seen a handful of his movies, but and I know BCI talked about wanting some Italian horror mentioned on here.

So Lucci fci, he did the Beyond which was a really great sort of gothic haunted house movie with a lot of strangeness and brutal scenes of violence towards mannequins. It's like about a fashion designer who inherits an an inn in Louisiana and decides to get it renovated, but she also doesn't know that it was once the sight of a horrific murder and also could open one of the seven doors of death, a gateway to hell.

And there's a lot of intrigue and mystery and creepy paintings and general weirdness, and eventually there's a bunch of zombies and a guide dog called Dickie that bites and kills its owner, which is good. But FCI also did Zombie and Zombie two, which were adaptations and sequels to, or sort of unofficial sequels to George a Romero's Dawn of the Dead franchise.

And so, yeah, so that was Lucci Fci.

Sidey: nice.

Dan: More zombies. Chris Chris's zombie out. Like, I've never really been a huge zombie fan. The, the zombie land one, and obviously there's zombie land two double tap,

Sidey: haven't seen that one, isn't it?

Dan: Yeah, there's, yeah, they did a second one as well. And, and when they, they kind of make it with humor when they, when they twist the, the, when they go full on like you, like res mm-hmm.

Just scary as shit. And their people actually think the next person coming through the door may be a zombie. When you, you going really into, into the genre. I struggle a little more with those ones, but the, the funnier ones I see. And I've been looking through these, so I, I have to look more than I've actually seen these film, but there's the scout's guide to the zombie

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: you ever seen

Reegs: Yeah. But I have, I can't remember it very

Dan: it, apparently

it's there's

a, a zombie battle dance and there's kind of lots of different moments I'm, I'm assuming are more humorous than, than

Reegs: Yeah, yeah,

Dan: do this kind of thing, which I could get my head around, I think certainly if there're anything like zombie land.

Sidey: Okay.

Should we talk about Michael Jackson? Yeah. Thriller of course. Was that pretty much the first thing I thought of

Dan: story of this. Then I've shown Sonny this when he was at a Ute and I goes, oh, you know, we put him onto different music and everything. He's just getting over pink Floyd's the wall where they had all the, the potato people in the masks and everything, weirdo Nino.

And I thought, oh, well get, and then I put on the full version of Thriller which is actually.

story. It's, it's really kind of, you know, great makeup and effects and everything and and it will scare the shit of a five or six year old

Reegs: Mm-hmm.

Dan: tell you that

Sidey: Yeah. Well,

Cris: that was a clever move.

Sidey: Someone told

Everyone, I, I guess they kind of knows the story of this. I mean, it's it's John Landow American Werewolf in London fame, and we've got the, the transformation of MJ into the zombie kind of undead character.

Reegs: The dance, the

Sidey: the dance is amazing. I mean, obviously the song is incredible. The, the, the choreography is brilliant. The video is like really iconic. There is the extended version as well. Have you ever seen the extended, the full length version of bad.

Cris: Yes.

Sidey: Fuck me.

Dan: probably back in the day, but not for a long time. Yeah,

Sidey: goes on.

That's a Scorsese, you know? This is obviously superior cuz it's got zombie in it. So yes, it's classic, classic, classic, classic. Nice.

Reegs: Well, after the original 1968 night at The Living Dead, I could talk about all of these in the

Sidey: There's lots of, of

Reegs: I'm not, yeah, I can't go on too much about them. I gotta pick ones that I can specifically talk about. So the second one, really 78 Dawn of the Dead is the one that where it all started, the big one that's discussed endlessly for, its like observations about consumerism and stuff.

It's the one that's set in the, the mall. So the, you know, and you can't help but think when you see the zombies like shuffling against it. You think of Black Friday and all those sorts of things and all that. And it's also the one that invented all of the like really. Solid tropes of the genre cuz it's set after the apocalypses happened.

It doesn't tell you exactly what's happened, but it's clear that society has kind of fallen apart. It's the movie that invented the idea of buildings being fortified as places of last standings killing zombies by shooting them in the head scavenging for resources, all that sort of stuff. That became like, you know, just in every zombie movie ever afterwards, were sort of invented in, in this one.

So yeah, Dawn of the Dead, it was remade by Zach Snyder in 2004, and he, I do quite like it, but he replaces all the subtle shit and world building of the first one to bring us, like heavy metal and zombie babies and tank buses with flame throwers and stuff. So like, loads of excess, but not necessarily a bad thing.

Dan: Well, an another one that I kind of remember watching was Kelly and Murphy in 28 days later. Yeah. Did you ever see that one?

Right? It, it's

Cris: I'm pretty sure I've seen that

Reegs: It's everyone I remember really clearly the like scenes

Dan: It was 28 days and

Sidey: but they had to film.

They did like gorilla film at night, didn't they?

Reegs: Loads of like clubber at 5:00 AM in the morning, like being held back. Yeah. They could have just been zombies.

Dan: Yeah. And it is, it's very dark, atmospheric, but budget film that, that hit home with the, the theme of, of a virus or, or some such thing had a infected load of people. And, and you've got almost like military gorilla groups in holdout in, in safe houses, just shooting everything that, that kind of moves until there comes a a point where they can regroup and, and get themselves together.

And then this 1, 28 days later, he, he's been, I think Kelly Murphy's been in a a comer or something and then kind of wakes up and, and gets involved as well. And it wasn't a bad one again, it wasn't a humorous one, but there was enough action

Sidey: Danny Boyer. Righter.

Dan: Yeah. I think it was Danny Boyle. Yeah.

Sidey: Boiler

Reegs: And then 28 weeks later as well.

that was the movie where basically Petta were responsible for the apocalypse. Cuz at the beginning there's like radioactive monkeys that petta release or something,

Dan: Okay. Yeah.

Sidey: right. And 12 Monkeys. Okay. Sean Dead, the first of the Corno trilogy is Top

Dan: first

and best. Yes. Yeah. But we can say yes

Reegs: Yeah, I'm gonna have to

Dan: is, yeah, it's true.

Sidey: it's, yeah, there's good zombie content, but they effectively are able to tame Ed. Nick Frost, who's West Ham? Dan?

Dan: yes. He's, he's solid, isn't he?

Sidey: you wanna get into that? He's kind of, it does all that consumerist thing as well of putting out the people just going to work and they're just gonna

Dan: Well, it's a brilliant start, isn't it? Because he much like, lot of is in a morning, particularly if it's, if it's a Saturday, you're not really going into work and you've had a heavy night the night before down at the

Reegs: west Ham fan

Dan: the Winchester

Sidey: But he goes to buy, he goes to the news agent, doesn't he? And he, and

Dan: he's just a zombie himself, isn't he?

He's, he's kind of like a, a morning zombie where he is just getting up, yawning, not really concentrating anything, walking past zombies and dead people and, and not even looking in the eyes, just dropping the money. Thank you. Let's go wanders back home and totally oblivious to all the terror that's going around the street.

Sidey: Yeah. So at the, and at the climax of the film, ed is, has survived and he's like, kept on a chain in the, in the shed, I think

Reegs: think. Yeah.

Sidey: just like, the kind of pet zombie thing. But also Peters fvi a zombie is great because him as anything is

Dan: Chomping it a bit. Yeah.

Sidey: Great movie.

Dan: Did you ever watch a movie called Train to Busan?

Reegs: We watched it for the pod.

Dan: I don't think I missed, I I don't think I watched this one then. So what was that like? That's a zombie

Reegs: that was great.

Dan: I I missed that one.

Sidey: That's one of the, cuz there's various different versions of zombies. This was the fast, super aggressive type of zombie. Yeah. Not the slow shuffling, relentless

Dan: I like a shuffling

Sidey: I prefer the shuffles. But this one is the angry fast.

Dan: Like,

the bonies.

Sidey: like they get bitten and straightaway there the tur like where War Z, that sort of, that

Dan: Right. Okay. Because that's another one I've not seen.

Sidey: I would normally, I dunno why I was his Z cause I'm dead

Reegs: three.

It's 1, 2, 3. Cuz the America, that's why you named it, I think. But,

Sidey: But Right.

Reegs: But

Sidey: I'd normally say would say Zed. But anyway yeah, 20% strong recommend. That

Reegs: Yeah. It's got Mar Donk in it as well. He's really good. The

Sidey: from the cook, the wife, the thief, and the gangster.

Reegs: Yeah, let go. The girl with all the gifts was a decent British horror on Netflix and was about a 12 year old girl called me Melanie, I think her name was.

She lives in like a military base, but she also happens to have a sort of fungus in her brain that turns her into a kind of crazy animal Rage, zombie or hungs in universe. There's quite a few movies. I wish I'd made a list of them that, where they don't say the word zombie for what the thing is, you know?

They don't have that in Walking Dead, do they? They don't say, they don't call

Sidey: it's called Walkers. Walkers

Reegs: or whatever. What else did I have? I've got, do you wanna have the quiz? Yeah, yeah. So obviously I

Cris: all the answers already.

Reegs: It's true or false. So, obviously we're huge fans of zombie animal movies.

Yeah. Right? So this is true or false, whether these are real or not, and a little description of what they are. So toxic chemicals plus a colony of beavers equals the movies zombie's. True or false? Yeah,

Dan: true.

Cris: Really?

Reegs: Yeah, it's true. Yeah, it's true.

Cris: Zombie's is a, sorry, is this your movie?

Reegs: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cris: Jesus Christ.

Reegs: O o. Only some of them I'm, I will have made up, maybe, possibly.

Zombie shark due to a secret government program which spliced a shark's dna, n a with zombie zombie dna n a that went awry. Zombie shark

Dan: hasn't been made. It needs to

be

Sidey: made. I'm gonna say that's false.

Cris: True.

Reegs: It is true. Yes.

Sidey: knows he's seen it.

Dan: to

Cris: I told you I know all these

Reegs: things. Koala calamity in which a contaminated eucalyptus tree turns a group of koalas into flesh eating.

Murderous MAs.

Dan: too good to be true.

Sidey: Yeah,

I'm saying

Cris: That must be fake. Yeah.

Sidey: Dammit.

Reegs: Zombie roadkill. A group of college students on a quick road trip to a nearby lake, run over a squirrel that springs back to

Sidey: squirrel, or

Reegs: Includes Thomas Hayden Church.

Sidey: True.

Dan: with that detail, it is got to be false.

Cris: False.

Reegs: It's true. It is true. Poultrygeist night of the Chicken Dead.

Sidey: Yes.

Dan: Poultrygeist is, is a real

Sidey: I hope so.

Reegs: Yeah. It's a true one. That one. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's Aro movie, I think, or a Lloyd Lo, Lloyd Kaufman about chicken zombies or zombie chickens. It's difficult to know. Black sheep

Sidey: true.

Dan: I've heard of that film.

Cris: What? Like the, the sh the black sheep

Reegs: blood thirsty sheep. Yeah, it's true. Yeah. The quacking in which a peaceful pond is disturbed by an accidental spill of an energy drink.

Sidey: I'm

Dan: I'd, I'd like to think that that didn't get

Reegs: Yeah. No, that's false. And just two more zombies which has in no particular order zombie LEMAs, zombie hogs, zombie giraffe, zombie koala bears, zombie gorillas, zombie birds, and

Cris: It's like Noah's ark of zombies. Yeah. Zombie must be true.

Reegs: That is true. And apocalypse meow the paranormal

in which a fearless veterinarian, armed with a laser pointer is the only thing that can save the world from cat food experiments that have gone disastrously wrong.

Sidey: True.

Cris: That can't be true.

Dan: I, I'd sign up for it, but I don't think it's a real one.

Reegs: one. It's

not real. So congratulations. Wow. Every, everyone won there, I think.

Yeah,

Dan: a winner. There's other films actually that you might think is still part of this true and false game. Pride, prejudice, and

Reegs: No, That's real. Yeah,

Dan: that is real.

Reegs: Went through a spate of those sorts of things. There was like Abraham Lincoln, vampire Hunter, and other things like mixing up genre and

Sidey: Johnson Actual zombie facts. Yeah. The first culture where we have evidence that they believed in zombies. Mm-hmm. The ancient Greeks, they were the who we have graves where they've waited down the corpses to stop them from rising up again. World Zombie Day, do you know what day that takes place on

Cris: the Tuesday?

Sidey: October the 13th,

which is which also my birthday.

Cris: Oh.

Sound.

Sidey: In Haiti there is actually a law making it illegal to turn someone into a zombie.

Dan: Wow. Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah. Well, it,

Cris: yeah, I'm not surprised there

Reegs: voodoo and

Dan: Yeah. Black magic

Cris: Sanaria voodoo.

Sidey: turn someone into zombie that is punishable by death.

Dan: Have

you ever heard of a film called Cockneys versus Zombies?

it.

Yeah.

Cris: I've obviously never watched it, but I have heard of

Dan: It's a zombie bartender trying to keep serving drinks even after he's turned undead. Imagine he's, he's west am he must be massive. Just keeps on coming.

Reegs: What

Sidey: we go over Yeah.

The Twittersphere Mr. Perchard says he's not like you, Chris. Never a fan of zombie films, but light 28 days later Brey don't, doesn't wanna sound like a wanker, but you have to include some old Italian classics. And she's put burial ground up there, which looks good. Mel is also a fan of Thriller. Joe Bees is after a Zombie Land nomination and also the Last of

Reegs: Yeah, it's a good

Sidey: it's a different take. Did you see that for the fungal version? Yeah, it did. Yeah,

Reegs: good.

Sidey: I thought it was really good, but I don't know why everyone thought it was like a complete masterpiece, just like The Walking Dead to me.

I enjoyed it. Don't mind. I really enjoyed it, but some people were like evangelical about it, thought it was just like pretty good.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: I did enjoy it. Trentan Peter Flak, 1970 nines Zombie two has a, has a scene where a stunt man actually re wrestles with and bites a sedated Tiger Shark.

Reegs: I talked about that just

Sidey: Yeah. Well, Pete's nominated as well.

Reegs: Work. Pete

Sidey: Anna Jameson TV series is of Walking Dead and Last of us, army of the Dead, Sean of the Dead, world War Zed and obviously Zombie Land.

Dan: There'll be loads out there that we've,

Sidey: Ollie Taylor Oh, the, the Better Taylor he's after Army of Darkness. Yeah, it's a great

shout. Are

Reegs: they zombies? Are they Yeah, they're

Cris: he's allowed to. He's allowed,

Dan: They're all bleeding zombies and they have to go in there like, and pull out a load of money from a, a Vegas casino or

Reegs: something? No, he's talking about Evil Dead three, isn't he? Army of darkness. Did you say Army of Darkness or Army of the

Dan: right, okay. What was that movie that I'm thinking of when they

Reegs: thinking Army of the Dead.

Dan: of the Dead?

Sidey: Yeah. No

Reegs: hey She,

Sidey: I Dead three is more Bruce Campbell. So that, that's a strong recommend and peaces blossom. Longtime listener, first time nominator, but I dunno if that long time listener, but certainly first time Nominator loves the zombie genre and is talking about cargo, which we watched and really enjoyed.

I think, if I remember rightly, Martin Freeman one. So some good stuff there. What are we gonna put in

Yeah.

Dan: I think he's the best zombie I've seen.

He's certainly the

Sidey: I think Davina McCall has to go in.

Reegs: All right. We're putting specific zombies

1. You

Sidey: have to. literally nothing at stake.

Dawn

Reegs: of the dead in.

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: Whatever Simon said.

Sidey: Okay. And

Cris: I've seen him today, so he might as well. Yeah, I've

Sidey: That was, that was 28 days later. I think bit of Wow. Ooh, dunno. Hard didn't it? Burial ground.

Dan: about Italian zombies?

Sidey: Well, that's, yeah, that's breaches one barrel ground British. We put British's nomination last week.

I feel like it was too much favoritism going on. Yeah.

Reegs: Spoiling her a bit.

Sidey: I would like to see Bruce Campbell army of darkness. I think Ollie Taylor. Yeah. Somewhere

along the line I read about this movie or I had seen someone comment about this movie and that inspired me to think about zombie themed week, which reeks poo-pooed while he was on holiday and we had to hold it back to this week. Yeah. And that film was Warm Bodies, which is a different take.

What I read was that it was a, like a different kind of look at the zombie genre. It was Nicholas Holt. I think we've enjoyed in various things. He was in

through Road is what I was thinking of. Yeah. He

Dan: was this guy though. I've seen him in, in kind of British TV stuff. Is that right?

Reegs: Skins he was in

Dan: and I think, it's not where I've seen him, cuz I've not seen skins.

But I do did recognize the actor and he kind of put me off this film to be honest, because I was like, isn't he like some dude off Grain Hill or something? I, you know, whatever it was. What is

Sidey: he's West Hand?

Dan: well, they could change everything as, you know, but I, he did put me off it a little bit. I was like, well I dunno if this guy's, you know, Alister, I dunno how much more

Cris: this does that I know how much that matters to you if they're

Dan: No,

but I, I just thought, I didn't think he had it in him to be honest. This this

Sidey: well we'll find out. Maybe we'll

Dan: I was a little bit You know,

Reegs: well you are coming out swinging

Dan: Yeah. Straight off. Yeah.

Reegs: of charisma of Nicholas Holt. Well, let's, let's see. He plays our hero R and that's how the movie starts with voiceover and closeups of the hero. And he's,

Cris: sorry, I'm just gonna say because I've only watched, I've tried to watch this movie three times.

Mm-hmm. And every time I watched it from the beginning Yeah. Because I couldn't really remember what happened. That's how memorable it was for me. But I've only got to probably 20, 25 minutes into it and every time I fell asleep three times. So then I've just abandoned hope. You

Reegs: should be strong at the beginning though.

At least

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: I know what's going on.

Dan: get

Reegs: First? 20 minutes. You should be really

Cris: I know what's going on. I dunno how long it is, but I've, I can tell you what happens in the first 20

Dan: Well, the, the world,

Reegs: 35

Dan: can I, cuz I've got it written down.

The world is post kind of apocalyptic world. Overrun by zombies. Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: That's where we

Sidey: That happens frequently in zombie films. Yeah. He, like you say rigs, he's giving a voiceover of, oh, this is me walking down and I can't remember who he used to be, and I do this, and then I go here and this is the kind of closest I've got to a friend. And, and I kept thinking to himself, but how's he doing the voiceover?

Reegs: Yeah. He's got this really detailed in a monologue. Yeah. Going

Sidey: like, is is the person still trapped within the zombie? I was thinking,

Reegs: there is clearly, there is a few different ideas going on here about what a zombie is. And they'll, they'll expand that, I guess, across the movie. Because they also have the ability kind of to sort of almost half communicate to each other.

He's got a friend m hot tub time machine.

Sidey: Yeah. Lu. Yeah.

Reegs: And they sort of grunt at each other and

Dan: But they're, they're hanging around an airport because that's where Los of zombies hang out. He has his own airplane, which is a real kind of. Step up to a lot of zombies who are just stood

Reegs: Mm-hmm.

Dan: the baggage areas and things.

He's even got a record player and he, he seems a zombie. Yeah, he seems a zombie with a little more going on upstairs than, than most zombies.

Reegs: And, but

he can't really communicate or express himself, but he's aware of the world around him and what it may have been like.

He has these flashes of remembrance, which color the whole world

Dan: around him.

Well, we, we learn a little bit about zombies as it as it goes ahead, and it, it wouldn't spoil it to share now that you get a little bit of somebody's memory if you eat a bit of their brain and, and things like that. So certain parts not right at the beginning, but certain parts start flashing

Sidey: different.

So it's, it's kind of classic zombie in the sense that if you are bitten or you're killed, you're turn to zombie unless it's, it is the brain. You have to kill the brain to kill them. And so they know that if they eat a brain, that person won't. Rise again, but you will also take on the memories and

Reegs: thoughts and feelings

Sidey: that person.

So that's like, that was slightly different, I think to

Reegs: and they do, and he does have a conflict that he talks about like this insatiable hunger and need to eat brains, but he knows like he shouldn't be doing it sort of thing.

Sidey: And then they show you what will happen. The, the progression is that the, the zombie ation of you will progress to such an extent that you will then rip your own flesh off and they show the final stages.

They call 'em bonies,

Reegs: Boners, yeah.

Sidey: The bo the boners who are

Dan: just skeletons

Sidey: just like, what's left?

Reegs: They're ghoulish. I am legend style

Dan: Yeah. Instead of, instead of like light between their bones,

Sidey: too dark. So there's

Reegs: they're expressly mentioned as being what happens when you give up on, on

Sidey: Yeah. So they're kind of positing a theory that there's still some humanity in the zombies until they go full boner.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: But we, we don't notice at this stage as, as kind of r as we learn his name shuffles by, he sees one guy kind of just picking his face in his face kind of

Sidey: he says, don't

Dan: comp, oh, don't do that mate. Don't do ah, you've picked in it a bit too far now.

And, and there's this kind of dark humor

Sidey: through, but then we're kind of almost like completely into walking dead territory because there's a civilization with a wall.

And then

Reegs: John

Malkovich on a giant screen Yeah. Saying they shouldn't have any remorse for zombies. You've got a kill. We are the remainder of humanity. We've got the obligation to thrive and survive and kill the zombies.

Cuz it's been eight years and I think it's gonna come out later that he lost his wife to a

Sidey: To zombie. Yes. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. And, and we get this this kind of.

crew of.

Of

army

gorillas, humans

Sidey: scavenge. You're gonna have to go out beyond the veil,

scavenged some

Dan: the veil being a huge Trump style wall that they built in

Sidey: It's all that, this sense is all classic like zombie story stuff that you've seen before.

Reegs: and

Dan: and

in fact, I'd even go so far in, there's a couple of streets when they're all shuffling down as a gang and everything. You think I've seen that street before in another zombie movie. So they've really kept it close.

Reegs: A and his group of zombies are shuffling off into the city cuz they're hungry.

And Julie a and Julie they, they're heading off with Dave Franco, who's her boyfriend and desperate for her father's approval to go into the city for this scavenging raid. And eventually the, the zombies are smelling the meat, which was a deaf leopard album, I think was it then. And eventually they, the two groups meet in a pharmacy and we do see an actual zombie attack.

And it feels a bit incongruous in this universe because it's been, the zombies are being carefully portrayed, but then suddenly it is like

Sidey: they've got a, we

Reegs: movie and people are getting killed. And

Sidey: Nora says there's, there's one of the, the gangs, Nora, and she hears them and she says, anyone hear that?

And they're all, no. Too busy getting the drugs, getting the, and Dave Franco's cat is freaking out. He's like, here's some val, and why don't you have that? And then Prozac. Prozac, sorry.

Dan: then we actually hear a noise, which is undeniable

Sidey: I fucking told you

Dan: fucking here. Like, and and sure enough, there's the undead bursting through.

Cris: I also have to say he makes a, and, and this is probably one of the most general points I have with this kind of genre, is he, the R says at one point, God, we move slow. Yeah, yeah. And then they burst into this room and they turn into, The flash, the

Sidey: hunger. The hunger, the rage. Hunger takes over.

Cris: I will blame it on that.

Dan: It it it is. And they go mad. And and they're winning this because her

Reegs: takes down Dave Franco, doesn't he? Yeah.

Sidey: He shoots him. But no, he knows surely it is a headshot. It's all a headshot. It's got a headshot. And I think he shoots him with his shoulder or something.

Reegs: but he takes down Dave Franco and he says he's not very proud of this. And we see him eating him,

Dan: He's,

Reegs: and that's when he reveals about the memories and thoughts and the blah. And he po pockets some of the brains, and he starts eating it.

And then he's listening to what is it, John Waits missing you.

Sidey: Soundtrack was really good

Reegs: Yeah, it was good, wasn't it? Yeah.

Dan: And yeah, he, he suddenly sees Julie under the, the ta the table. In fact, he's seen her previously as he's just been hit in the face with the, the butt of a gun as soon as.

They walked into the room, so he'd been down on the floor. He looks up, she's shooting all these other zombies, but she looks so hardish. Her hair's kind of

Sidey: Well, she looks hot

Dan: back

behind her

a little

Sidey: He's eaten the brain.

so he now has the feelings of their relationship now is with him. And so he sees her and she throws a knife at him which is again, is a complete waste of time.

But he, rather than attack her he protects her and kind of leads her out.

Reegs: he says her name and it disarms her slightly.

Sidey: you, yeah.

Dan: And yeah, he manages then to have her shuffle along into the main zombie camp through the airport and into his airplane where he holds her up for a day or two thinking you know, let's build this relationship.

But obviously she's

Reegs: Well, she's straight out of there, to be honest. Yeah, she,

Dan: she's freaked the hell out.

Reegs: and they tell us that it's really dangerous for her to go out, but when they show us, they show us about three zombies.

But anyway, yeah, he has to shepherd her back to the airplane, which involves a sort of sh of the dead style acting class where he criticizes her for overdoing it,

Dan: Yeah. He goes, act dead. And she, she, she goes too hard. Then he goes, what? What'd he say? He

Reegs: too much. Yeah. So anyway, yeah.

He,

takes her back to the airplane and he's started of sort of gradually becoming more able to communicate.

He tells her that, He's not gonna eat her and that he's gonna keep her safe and then he fucks off to give her a bit of space or something. But when he is fucked off, he's got some of Dave Franco's brains in his pocket. So he eats a bit more and gets to know a bit more about hi his, his relationship with her.

And eventually he'll learn about Dave Franco's relationship with his own father who was killed on a expedit. He, when they went on an expedition from the city out into the dead zone. why. Yeah.

So that's why he's desperate for the other guy's approval as well. It plays into his,

Dan: he's there, there's all kind of scenes, although it, it made me think that he had some kind of thread of humanity still in him because he had done all this even before. Yeah. Eating that brain and connecting with her.

He's got a record player. He collects things and we learn little bits over these two days. And

Cris: he's a bit like you.

Dan: he's

a lot like me,

Reegs: puts on patience by guns and roses.

Sidey: Yeah. Good,

Dan: good choice. And

she's she could actually get out of there that same day, but he wants to build this

relationship.

Sidey: he gives her, he gives her 48 hours, isn't he? He says he's got a,

Dan: well, he says that, but he, he, he panics first and says, Can't leave. We, we've only just got here. He wants Yeah. He wants her to stay and he, he has this kind of romantic dream and he's

Reegs: he also, you've seen, literally seen inside his heart and watched it restart. And so, you know that something is growing inside of him. He's now living again.

Yeah.

Dan: It was a bit like a, a pigeon having a heart attack, wasn't it?

Reegs: Yeah.

it

Dan: just flooded.

Sidey: and his makeup is becoming less and less pronounced.

Dan: yeah, that was,

Sidey: he can communicate

Dan: So the first time we see him, he's full kind of makeup, dark zombie

Reegs: It's not Zoolander esque,

Dan: And each, each time you see him, he, they must have just taken him down like one grade of some of, of zombie.

So by the time that he helped her escape from The, the airport where she's been hole

Reegs: she's had enough of listening to Bruce Springsteen and some other

Sidey: stuff.

Yeah, they do. They do Hungry Heart, don't they?

Reegs: Yeah. And Bob Dylan as well, short from the storm. They, and they're staring at each other. She's had enough of that. So

Dan: she's built trust as well, cuz she's no longer a fighting there. He's gonna kill her or the

Sidey: her mind, she can't fucking stay

with us like her.

And it, and we learned that it's her old man is the leader of, he's Malkovich Malov,

Dan: but the world is a fucked up place. Excuse me, as well. So, she, she doesn't seem as overly concerned with all this situation.

And at one point

Sidey: no, she let's her guard down

Dan: Yeah. She lets her guard down and

Sidey: him.

Yeah,

Dan: exactly. She, she knows that she's, she's safe. Because yeah, she would've been eating long ago if he, if he chose to.

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah,

Reegs: yeah.

So yeah, she does say eventually that she's got a go and r does escort her out of there after some badly rendered boners chase them. And there's a scene where it looks like they're gonna be killed, but then suddenly hot tub time machine shows up to like run them over in one of those airport transport

Sidey: buses.

Yes,

Reegs: Yeah,

Dan: that, that's

right. And I wasn't sure, you know, we talked about the heart, whether it was him doing something nice for somebody that sparked the heart

going again, or whether it was

Reegs: it was a memory, I think of something because in the next bit they hold hands, don't they, in the garage where they're all the zombies are

Dan: Well, that, that's, yeah. That,

Reegs: what starts off

Dan: the, the heart,

The heart going again. So, so this moment they've They've escaped, but the zombies who aren't the bonies have kind of banded together a little bit. And with the help of our's friend who also seems to be having the flickering of humanity

Reegs: he sees, he sees a, he sees them holding hands, ar and Julie, and then he sees a picture of some lovers and he remembers from his own life a time that he was holding hands and it sparks the humanity in him. And then some other guy sees that. And so, yeah, it proliferates through them.

Dan: They,

They, did have a little bit of when he's helping her escape and he's going, you've got to eat. You've got to eat. You know, and it was then following this, he's obviously had a, a change of heart cuz they're goose, they're about to be eaten, they're about to be caught, and.

Reegs: Well they, they

Dan: Rolls over 'em all, doesn't he? And helps him

Reegs: So they do get away and they go to an abandoned house and she gets undressed in front of him.

He, she allows him to sleep on the floor. Yeah. Thanks to her. And then this is when

Dan: did he have a bony then?

Reegs: No,

he don't think the boner was there. And then he gives her Perry Dave Franco's watch.

Sort of his confession of like,

Sidey: I did him,

Reegs: I ate your, I ate him.

Dan: but not, I hate him. No, I ate him.

Reegs: I ate him.

And she's kind of like, oh, I thought I kind of knew, but I

Dan: want to ask. Felt rude.

Reegs: And then in the morning she's gone.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah, she's, she's gone back and she goes to the, the big kind of gates and there's an

Sidey: but she has watched, have they not watched a convoy of her, but she doesn't go then

Reegs: didn't have, she had a chance to go, but she protects him, tells him to stay down. And

Dan: which, which she could have just run out and said there's nobody else in there at the house with me or but she was fighting dead as soon, look, they're not gonna ask any questions. We, ya are, they're just gonna see that you are corpse and boom, you're dead gone.

So she goes back home and

Sidey: rocks up at the front door, doesn't she?

Dan: She rocks up the front door. There's, they're being

Sidey: have to scan, they have to do like a scan it, a retinal scan to make sure she's not,

Dan: she said, do I look infected? And he's going, look, I'm not taking these chances. Yeah. And it isn't until he's done it.

That Malkovich, her dad kind of shows himself and says, is she clear?

Sidey: he's still not convinced, has he

Dan: Gives her a hug. And he goes, yeah, yeah, it's all fine. And she knows not to say anything to this guy about.

you know,

I've met a corpse that's actually okay. But she does have a friend who wants to help people as we learn from a dream sequence and she wants to see if there's some kind of cure.

So when she starts telling her about it, she's like, oh, we're still a bit fucking weird. He's a corpse. And you were telling me that you might have romantic feelings for him.

Reegs: We've met did we talk about the bit where he sort of romantically cuz he infiltrates now into the city

Sidey: there's that bit, but there's clearly there's a clearly a thing going on which she recognizes that people who are zombies are not completely lost.

Yeah. That's, it can be unwound and it seems to be being unwound because there's a group led by Lou from Hot Tub who are clearly helping them and he and are is clearly like becoming more and more him, his normal self. And so she's aware of that, but it's a tough sell to tell Markovic Malkovich that and have

Dan: eight years. Loads of people have lost lo family and

Sidey: and this is the scene where he. Is able to infiltrate into the, through the walls. And then there's the scene where he's on the ground and she's on the balcony. And it really reminded me of something that I, I can't quite put my

Reegs: put your finger on it.

Yeah. R and Julian, he's, yeah. The balcony. Yeah.

Cris: Was it in Verona?

Sidey: Yeah. Something like that. Yeah.

Cris: yeah.

Reegs: So yeah, anyway, they come up with this plan then for

Dan: Romeo and Juliet, that's, oh, there you go.

Reegs: Some reason.

Sidey: knew it was something like that.

Dan: For

Reegs: some reason, r himself has to get near Malkovich Malkovich Malkovich. So they do a cute little montage where they play Pretty Woman and then M 83 and they put like little sunglasses and stuff on him.

Sidey: Yeah. He has a makeover. It's cute.

Reegs: Yeah.

And,

Dan: and then it becomes kind of a battle between,

Reegs: oh,

and he has to convince a gardener. He's like, I'll say something human. And he says like, oh.

You, I wish they'd done a bit more of that stuff. Anyway. Yeah, it's a neat idea. Him trying to pass himself off

Dan: Yeah. So they, they, they've,

Reegs: when Malkovich sees him, he works it out pretty quickly, doesn't he? And pretty soon he's got his gun out. And Judy's trying to protect him. And then Judy's mate turns up and puts a gun to Malkovich, to, to, so I can get away. And he goes back to the baseball stadium to warn the zombie dudes about what's coming.

All the boners are going to arrive and destroy them.

Dan: Well, I say these kind of skeletal zombies are a lot faster, a lot hungrier, and have absolutely no chance of being turned back into humans.

Reegs: But Malkovich, Malkovich, Markovic's people have come out in their vans and they, and so they're like the zombie hot tub time machines in the middle, sort of caught between a boner and Uhhuh

Sidey: a hard place.

Yeah.

Reegs: And then suddenly, One of the hot tub time machine guys, zombies saves one of the

Malkovich guys. And then so they realize there's like a, a truce between them. You know, everything's gonna be all right. We, we we're, we're on the same team. Take

Yeah. have

Dan: a, have a shake. And they try and prove that, that that love and connection can beat the

Sidey: And it kind of another little montage of them just going out and gunning down all the boners. Yeah. In some human zombie alliance. Yeah.

Reegs: Really

Dan: Gunn down any boners?

Reegs: Not in the man cave.

Dan: No. No. Well, this was warm bodies.

Reegs: Well, we haven't got Whoa, whoa. We haven't quite dealt with the,

Sidey: that's the aftermath. The

Reegs: aftermath? Cuz there's a fight between r and corpses. Yeah. As they're called. And then eventually anyway they end up high up on like a city ledge at the sports stadium. I completely lost the geography of this cuz sometimes they seem to be underground and Yeah. Anyways, they open the door and suddenly they're really high up and it, they have to jump off and he's like gonna use himself as a human shield.

But they fortunately land in a pool of water

Sidey: That's right.

Dan: And he kind of bangs his head a bit, but she wakes him up and it seems like wait a minute, a bit of a bang on the head's done.

You're okay mate, because your eyes have, have suddenly gone a lot less zombie and

Reegs: that's the final stage of transforming back into a human is to jump from

Dan: whatever it takes,

Sidey: Serious head trauma style.

Dan: Yeah. It, it's and the zombies don't fancy follow in him.

Sidey: No. Well then they get, then we do get the, the real aftermath of, of the reintegration of ex zombies. And we get hot tub time, machine being kind of pushy with a girl in a park.

Reegs: Yeah,

Dan: Here's your umbrella. Take my umbrella. I'm gonna walk with you

Sidey: You're really pretty.

I'm gonna rape you. That kind of

Dan: And then it kind of just cuts to credits. Yeah.

Sidey: Basically.

Yeah.

Not far off.

Dan: off that, but it, it is interesting this film in the fact that there was different stages of zombies.

Sidey: It was a different take. I

Cris: it that quick? What? Just

Dan: that,

Sidey: was? It's pretty quick. Yeah. It flies.

It does fly by.

Dan: It was only a 90 minute film.

Cris: No. I I,

because

the last thing I've seen was when he had the memory where Perry shoots her. Julie's dad.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: And then she's still in the airplane and he gives her a blanket or something.

Dan: That's

Reegs: yeah.

Yeah.

last

Cris: the last thing

Dan: pro, you're probably

Sidey: you're not a million miles away,

Reegs: You're a third of the way, you're third of the way through the movie there. Yeah.

Right.

Cris: Okay. I I thought it's like 20 minutes or something, which could be, I, I don't, anyway. Alright. Okay. So yeah,

Dan: It was a different take on, on a movie. So it tried to play with a romantic side of the zombies genre.

And

Sidey: book, I mean, it's a, it was an adaptation of a

Dan: Yeah. And it had also the obviously a, a comedic kind of value going through there. There was a little bit of tension and things. It was a different take. I, I quite enjoyed it just because it was something so,

you know,

taking a, a genre we all know about zombies, they scare the shit outta you.

And then to say, actually, what if they just really misunderstood some of these people and they with a little bit of, of thought and love and understanding, we can get these

Sidey: people, oh, you would've loved the kids there.

Dan: of it. So, that's maybe the message of the film and that kind of

Cris: So does he get the girl in the end or not? And they live happily ever after And he's back human now.

Sidey: Yep. He seemed to be more integrated

Reegs: Yeah. But he ate, he ate her boyfriend's brains, I

Dan: Yeah. So they're even closer than

Sidey: But he was a dick. He was a

Dan: she did say she was kind of getting used to the fact that she had lost him a little bit anyway. She wasn't

Cris: he refused to hold her hand. Do you remember that? I, I've, I've seen that with my eyes. I've seen it.

Sidey: she was smoking.

I mean, he'd hold her hands.

Dan: Oh, dear me.

Cris: I know,

Dan: was, there was a few actually, like even the girl right at the end, she was quite hot with the Nora. No. Well, Nora yes as well, but the one that went with the umbrella. Yeah. You think, how are zombies pulling all these fit women? But they do, it just goes to show it's what women want.

They just want people dead inside.

Reegs: Mm-hmm. It

Cris: Exactly.

Reegs: A bit of a sort of, it's the idea is I guess was to make twilight, but with zombies and make it a bit funny.

And yeah, it was okay.

Sidey: I think in the book, he actually has actually has a family and like a, a wife and kids. Yeah. So they, they changed that. He, he, he wore a suit in the book.

He was a, like a proper corporate. Okay.

Cris: Wanker, cog

Sidey: in the wheel. But I didn't really like it to be honest. Yeah. It just, I don't, I didn't like, they, they kind of like muted and like, you know, sanitized zombies. I wanted it to be fucking horrific and violent and disgusting.

Yeah.

Dan: It's probably why I did like it.

Sidey: I did appreciate, you know, trying to do something different was, I just didn't really, it was a bit PG 13 for me.

I watched it with the misses. She, she quite enjoyed it. So there was that she probably could have watched this from my daughter. It was that safe, like, you know, was okay.

Dan: again, probably why I liked it nice and safe and it didn't it didn't scare the living shit outta me. I'm just trying to find out what else this Nicholas Chap has been in.

Sidey: I can

Reegs: he was in about a boy.

Sidey: Yes. He was the boy. That's

Dan: it, that's where I've seen him. And actually that was a decent movie. So I'm, I'm being wholly too harsh on him, but he didn't, he didn't it, it didn't appeal to me after seeing him, I thought, oh, this is one that I'll go and watch or anything.

But I'm pleased that I did watch it.

Reegs: He said that he was he drew inspiration from Edward Scissor hands in the performance.

And you can sort of see that, I guess.

Sidey: I get that.

Dan: Well, he is grown on me definitely in this film. And I was wrong. He was right. This is decent. I think you are wrong. I think if this is maybe a, a gateway, zombie movie.

Yeah. You know, potentially it's a date night Zombie movie. There's a bit of romance in there. And a few laughs. It's not the best thing you're ever gonna see. You go and see if you want Really funny zombie, you've never seen it, Sean, at the dead, that that's where you'd want to go. But this is, this is okay.

It's not in that league, but it's, it's okay. It's okay.

Sidey: It did well It, but budget was 35 million and it, it made 117. Wow. So, and I'd never

Dan: zombies though, or lots of people do.

Sidey: It's so we never, like, apart from Chris it's like that thing that just always appeals to people, I think.

Yeah.

Cris: I don't understand. I really don't understand

Sidey: because I think because it kind of, and you do hear every now and then, like about, there was a thing going on in Florida where there was like almost a zombie outbreak going on. It's like that thing, like we could be monsters, you

Cris: but it's all the same all the time. It's exactly the same all the time, regardless

Sidey: it's so

Reegs: and it rings even truer with the, you know, we've just been through a pandemic and stuff, so like people queuing outside for toilet roller could be zombies and you know, we've been worried about airborne this, that, and the others.

And

Dan: the zombies of the future might not necessarily

Sidey: be, could be the, could be the zombies of today.

Dan: There we

Reegs: we go.

You should work in zombie marketing.

Sidey: That was so profound.

Dan: Kids tv.

Reegs: Yep.

Sidey: Rigs. I think you've been indoctrinated or certainly your kids possibly into this, the cult of Yes. Of Zed Dash. Let's not do that. No. Zombies. Zombies, yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: This is a, a Disney plus TV movie. Kids mega hit sensation. If you're in

Dan: is it a kind of series or is this just a one-off film?

Sidey: No, there's a zombies two.

Dan: Right. Okay.

Sidey: okay.

Reegs: And a zombies three,

Sidey: there three?

Reegs: Yeah. But you can only get it on the adult profile side.

Sidey: Oh,

Cris: Well, it's like a porn

Sidey: on peaked my interest.

Dan: scary. Then. I unfortunately didn't get round to seeing this cuz I, I did just overdose on the West Ham content coming out

Sidey: this point.

Okay, well we can, we can talk you through it.

Reegs: What you've got here, Dan, is a completely average horror civil rights slash cheerleader themed zombie musical

slash

Sidey: Romeo Juliet.

Dan: Okay. So just your basic everyday run of the mill

Sidey: But it does, it starts off in the graphic novel style and it actually is quite full on for kids.

Cuz this is nine plus I think it says. Yeah. But your youngest must have watched this. So it's,

Reegs: is the most intense part at the beginning.

Sidey: Yeah. It's, it it is basically your novel. Yeah, it's exactly what it's, it's your novel. Yeah. It's a planned community. So Milton Keens. But

Reegs: Called Seabrook

Sidey: and the, the power station that they

Dan: Right. They've just mixed in all these disasters.

Sidey: Yeah. Well, no, the, so the, the power station that,

you know, like the Simpsons, it's gone. It's blown. Yeah. Right.

Reegs: They knocked over some green like fizzy energy drink onto the console.

Sidey: Yeah. Homey Simpson style. No. And that has caused a

Dan: prime

Sidey: and that has caused literally 50% of the town to become zombies.

Yeah. And the other 50

Dan: So easily

Sidey: And again, built a fucking wall and walls in

Reegs: It's the exact same thing. Dan could you

Dan: Zo zombies can do lots of things, but what they can't do is scale a wall.

Sidey: No. And we are immediately introduced to Z or Zed. Sorry, I just get wrong. Zed. He is the zombie dude.

Main character. He's very handsome, but he is green hair and eyeliner, right?

Reegs: Yeah. So try to imagine everybody in this is basically cosplaying as Jared Lito in the Joker.

Sidey: Yes. Yeah, all the zombies have green hair,

Reegs: and ped skin, but that's it.

Sidey: it.

So he wants, so he's our male lead and he wants to be on the football team and our female lead, who is not a zombie

Reegs: Addison,

Sidey: but has some kind of hair thing going

Reegs: on.

Sounds ridiculous. I was trying to think about how to

Sidey: She's traumatized because she's got white hair and she has to wear wigs. She doesn't want to be different. So she's got, anyway, she wants to be on the cheer squad. Yeah. So there's some good not at all gender stereotype roles of jock and cheerleader,

Reegs: and it's all on a sort of pastel hued set.

It reminded me very much of like, if you actually went to Disney, sometimes those,

Sidey: they, yes. Like, like, what, what's that thing called? Where they all, everyone starts dancing on command. like that. Like that. I need to know what that word is now.

Cris: Funeral.

Reegs: flash. Mo.

Sidey: flash. Mob, mob. It's, yeah, it's like a flash mob of these people. And, but when you're watching something and sometimes a set might look cheap, but also sometimes it's so fucking clearly a set.

Reegs: Well, but it was stylized to be that way. I

Sidey: Yeah. Like, like you're watching a play or a production.

It's clearly fake.

Cris: Sorry. Is this a cartoon or an actual

Sidey: No, it's live

Reegs: a, it's live

Cris: an actual movie.

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: And so they, they then do the song, the, the song that we keep singing is like, I was made for this and something so thin as but it's from the point of view of him as the jock and her like in Zombieland and Hi Her as the

Dan: when you sung that, I just heard Christmas bells over the top

Sidey: it.

Yeah. it's a hell of a tune.

Reegs: Did you see, did you watch all of

Sidey: No, I, I, I do want to finish it.

Reegs: Oh, right. Did you get to Bryce? He's the he

Sidey: the annoying

Reegs: Yeah. He's the sort of

Sidey: he's the leader of the cheer squad. Yeah. Yeah. He's a dude.

Reegs: yeah. He's, he's quite good as well. He's

Sidey: so I, the way I watched up to was the tryouts for the cheer squad, and it was the same sort of, again, I thought,

Reegs: Yeah. I think it might have been, I

was Yeah.

Sidey: so good. They sang it twice, but back to back

Reegs: and Zed, he would've met, he was friends with Bon Bonzo

Sidey: he's, so what's

Reegs: sort of like a foreign exchange zombie.

Dan: I am fucking confused now. I'll

Sidey: Okay, well let, let me, let me, let me properly set the scene. So we've got half the town zombies, half town is not, but what's happened is the government have been able to make Fitbits for the zombies, which sends out an electromagnetic pulse, which placates them that they don't have to eat brains, they are just black

Dan: How'd you get,

Reegs: right? So here's the ma, right? So

Dan: get the,

Sidey: because that's what this is. This is white people.

And

Reegs: if you are really clever like me inside you here, you might have picked up subtle details that imply that this is about racial segregation and stuff. But it also has a really unfortunate like other thing to it, which is sort of, because they have these Zed bands that restrain themselves from being zombies.

And part of the plot is that he can move it to make himself more of an animal zombie so he can be like a better American football player. And so, and then, yeah, no, seriously, right. So if they're saying like, which they clearly are saying that the, the zombie thing is a bit like being a being black.

Then for them to assimilate, they have to turn off their blackness. To get into the community because that's what happened in the movie. So it's like a really unfortunate implication of

Dan: but they have to turn up their zombie to be good at sports or

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah. That's what's happening in the, in, in the movie.

Sidey: because they are effectively in the ghetto.

And the affluent people are basically all white and they're, they're the ones who are in control. Yeah. It's,

Dan: I nearly had an Elvis moment there where he said,

Reegs: but they solve racism with

Dan: NEK

Reegs: So With what? Sorry? Cheerleading.

Sidey: Yes. Yeah. Cheerleading is the,

Cris: we also have to remind everyone that this is a Disney movie.

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: So that's why,

Sidey: oh, this is the, this is a double whammy, few of not digging zombies and also massively hating Disney.

Nice.

Reegs: Well that's worked out well, really, isn't it?

Songs are absolutely banging on this. The kids have been watching it and I've watched it with the kids. You know, the youngest got us into this, so it's nice to watch something that she recommended that's not just completely awful.

These guys are really talented. The guy who,

Sidey: that's Yes.

Right. Okay. So it's so easy to hate on stuff like this. You could just pile into it if you wanted to. Yeah. And it does have that like, obviously stupid shit about really trying to simplify very, very complicated themes and real world issues. High school musical zombie, but it's high school musical zombies.

Right. But the people in it, you're like, They can fucking move. And the songs are really catchy. Yeah. And all that other Disney stuff, it's why they're so fucking

Reegs: They've got this thing with the sprung floor that they do that he like, cuz at one point I was like, is he jumping, using his knees?

Like, and then Yeah. They do all sorts of crazy shit. And if you've ever been to Disney and you see them do that stuff, these really talented people, this guy, the Manheim or whatever his name was, Mya Manheim was on their version of dancing with the girls or whatever and like won it or whatever. And so,

Sidey: Yeah. So it, it's, it's like a double-edged sword. Like you want to pan it, but also you want to like say people are, people in this are actually like, pretty good at doing stuff.

Reegs: But I think the racial metaphor needs a bit of thinking about though.

Sidey: Yeah. It's quite unfortunate the way they're just like, it, it's fairly ham-fisted.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: But is it, I mean, it's not aimed at, I guess at 50 year

Sidey: but you, but it's the sort, it's that

Reegs: 50,

Dan: it's

Sidey: that kind of age group that you would wa you would be sitting watching it with the kids.

Dan: Yeah. Right.

they're

Sidey: likely you'll catch, you'll, you'll catch some of it

Reegs: if you're watching it by yourself.

Mm-hmm.

Dan: Right.

Which is

I

Sidey: there's, so there's three movies, right? So there's a lot of content to get through and it's super, super fucking popular. Reeks Is Youngest's been to a themed Yeah.

Dan: Oh, really? So the, you really into this,

Sidey: do they have to do? Like green up their hair? Yeah. Like black effectively, like blacking up.

Reegs: Yeah. And eat a corpse. Yeah.

It is.

Dan: It's good.

Cris: Sounds good to me.

Sidey: I think we're a big fans.

Reegs: Yeah. I think 28 days later they asked the question, what if zombies could run? And then in this movie they asked what if they could rap? What

Sidey: What if they could cheer?

Dan: Well,

it, but it might be a, a thing that, you know, cuz you are looking around for stuff to watch with my daughter and stuff like that.

Sidey: Nelly, I reckon we'd be into this. Yeah. Yeah. She would like this.

Dan: Right. Well, I'm, I'll check it out then.

Cris: I won't,

Dan: should,

Reegs: should

Sidey: Your miss would really be into this.

Chris.

Dan: There you go.

Sidey: don't think we need to say anymore, do we? Strong recommend.

Cris: Very strong Recommend.

Sidey: Next week we've got a bit of a conundrum because I'm here, but I'm not here the week after, so I will need to Cause you like, are fucking useless. I will need to do all the editing for the next two

Dan: weeks. Yeah, we are useless

next

Sidey: week. So we either pick a film or something to talk about, or we could ask the esteemed

Reegs: as if the listeners could, we could, they could suggest something.

We could see if we ignore it or not.

Dan: Yeah, don't, don't we have a list from them that we ignored previously.

Reegs: We had a couple on there, but we did a few of them though.

Sidey: though.

Dan: did

Sidey: did,

Reegs: when side went away before we did a

Sidey: of weeks of doing stuff

Reegs: Maybe if listeners, if you've got a good idea, let

Sidey: basically, we, we wanna do, we're gonna need to do this is what we're gonna need to do is four midweek

Dan: Or to be fair, if they've listened this long to this episode, they get to choose

Reegs: Two listeners asked us to do that Netflix movie, the platform.

Sidey: Okay. That's one.

Reegs: could be one.

Sidey: Yeah.

Okay. So, don't watch the West Ham game again. Watch the film instead. Okay. All right.

Dan: watch the, the shorter highlights.

Sidey: All that remains is to say, sadly signing out, re

Reegs: out

Cris: Chris Dunn

Dan: Dec vice, one more year.

Reegs: God.