Uprising & Onimusha

Uprising

Reegs: Welcome to Bad Dads Film Review, the podcast where we slice through film with the precision of a samurai sword and the subtlety of a sledgehammer. This week's offering is sharper than a shuriken and twice as likely to leave a mark as our eastern themed episode starts off with a discussion about the top five samurais, archers, or horse riders.

After that, we'll be reviewing the Korean historic historical epic melodrama Uprising. And we finish things off by taking a look at the first episode of animated Netflix series Onimusha. And, spoiler alert, it's got more demons than Dan's therapy sessions. Now, because every trainwreck needs its conductors, let's introduce the dad.

Starting with Dan, he's so old he remembers when the Great Wall of China was just a fence. And cloud storage was just a fancy way of saying attic. Next up, he's got the beauty of a Japanese cherry blossom, but the wit of a sumo wrestler's loincloth. It's Chris. And not here this week, unfortunately, is Saidi, who stayed at home practicing his calligraphy.

At least, I assume that's what he meant when he phoned me to tell me he was at home perfecting his strokes. And then there's me, Riggs. Hello.

Dan: Hello, Riggs. Yeah, that's all that could have meant. Yeah,

Reegs: No.

Dan: It's a shame

he couldn't be here today.

Reegs: you say a shame, he hadn't he also told me he hadn't watched anything as well, so

Dan: Well,

did you have to, we have to watch

Reegs: you have to watch?

shame. Come back Occasionally, it

Cris: a

Reegs: And wine!

Cris: Yeah,

Dan: that's where my mind

Reegs: I'm at.

Dan: I'm drinking alone now, but there you go.

Reegs: there you go. Yeah,

not

Dan: too bad. Have you seen anything of note and interest this week?

Reegs: this week? No, stood out

Dan: No, nothing stood out for you.

Reegs: No,

Dan: I've been further delving into Prime Target.

Reegs: Oh yeah, the thing about the prime numbers and codes and any good?

Dan: I really like it, but

Reegs: Is it Sterling K. Brown? Is it the guy in it?

Dan: don't know. I don't know. No one I'd seen before.

Reegs: No, sorry, I just remembered I did

Dan: something, yeah.

Oh, you did see a little bit of it. Alright, cool. Oh, you saw something else.

Well, They drop these every Wednesday. So, I have to wait a couple of days

Cris: But do you remember after, let's say, from Wednesday to next Wednesday?

You can't just, it's almost like a new movie, no?

Or an hour,

Dan: 45 minutes, an hour. They do the recaps, which takes five minutes. And you just think Obviously, once they're out, you can,

Cris: Go through them,

Dan: can, and with other programs, I've just been them off and thought, well, I'll wait until they're all out and then I'll binge them because I don't like to wait a week, but I'm kind of

Cris: Yeah, you started with this one already

Dan: doing it.

Reegs: that. Yeah, I think I'm

Dan: think, I think it's, I go with Saidi's thoughts that they're just, And it's not only

Cris: And it's not only that, they're already made.

Yeah, it's not like they make one a week. We all know that they're made this.

They're all done. The filming is done They're all on holiday. They're on the beach or they're doing other

Dan: they're all done. They're filming, they're all on holiday, they're on the beach, or

they're other projects.

So, no

Reegs: Well,

we did go, the family and I went to the cineplex to see Mufasa.

Hmm.

Cris: is that good

Dan: Mmm,

Reegs: good? It's, it's a no from me, I'm afraid. Yeah. No, the experience was marred because there was a group of

Teenagers who kept going in and out and very bad cinema etiquette like that annoyed

me but

Cris: But does that affect the movie though?

Reegs: little bit but the film

Dan: when you're a certain age, you know? You've just got

Cris: Yeah, but you're just

Reegs: watch a

Dan: here to watch the movie! You know, you've got your blanket out and you've got it over your knees, you've got the slippers, and there's these people that are there.

Reegs: But the movie itself, I think is a little bit of a soulless retread of everything that you've seen before in the Lion King

Cris: basically the same like the Lion King, but just the story of Mufasa?

But what is the difference?

Reegs: not a lot. And it suffers from prequel itis. So you know who everybody is going to be and introduces them.

Some of them, it's nice to see him again. I like the monkey Rafiki. That was good, but it's done in this style that at first you think, wow, that is amazing. It's like photo realistic. It's not animated. It's like, you know, but they're talking and shit still. But then after a while, you're like, you know, when you watch one of those horrible AI videos on.

Like X or whatever your social media of choice is like where it's got cats and it's somebody's like, Oh, I'm an artist because I generated this hideous looking AI monstrosity in two and a half minutes. That one has the look of that film all the way through. So, and it's by Barry Jenkins who did moon, moonlight, the remember that movie we watched for the pod about the, it was amazing.

So, yeah, that's a strong not to recommend

Cris: Mufasa.

Dan: I don't

Reegs: least? I don't really know. I don't, I'm not really

Dan: not sure. No,

Reegs: either. No, they did say, there was not a lot of general enthusiasm afterwards I wouldn't say.

We haven't heard any of the songs since either, so.

so.

Dan: the songs since either, so. Well, it

was

Reegs: Well, it was extortionate, but I went courtesy of my nephew who Yeah. Gave us a cinema voucher

Dan: a cinema voucher for Christmas presents. That's why, that's why when I went, and that's why last,

the

Cris: quid for the day, and you know, popcorn, tickets, getting there. It's a bit, and don't get me wrong, look, it was our choice, I've, you know, I've decided to go, so I know what I'm getting myself into, but I was just

thinking,

Dan: well It's getting one of those unlimited cards is

Reegs: it Yeah, I think

Cris: I think so, yeah, yeah, but anyway, we, you know, we've all done it, and it's, that's the beauty, or the, the, I don't know, the curse of it, though, I guess, if you, you choose something, you might not be I heard the Bob Dylan thing is good. The Timothée Chalamet or

Dan: Oh, right.

Cris: Apparently that is meant to be quite good, but

Dan: Did, did you get to watch anything on the box?

Cris: I,

think I did, but it was something that was so not memorable that I probably did I probably I'm 100 percent sure I watched something the other week.

I think maybe like Tuesday or Wednesday night or something, but it was something that was not very

good. nothing. Of, of note, let's say,

Dan: Well,

Reegs: well, speaking of nothing, of note, why don't we go into this week's top five?

Dan: into this We're off to a flyer. What was this about?

Did we have anything from last week?

Reegs: Oh, Mel was piping in on the Robbie Williams chat.

He's huge in Australia. She says he he loves it here. He just performed on the New Year's Eve on Sydney Harbour for the TV broadcast. So he's still big there.

Cris: Was he in his pants? Or was he as a monkey?

Reegs: say and it was made in Australia. The movie, it's got an Australian director. I think

Dan: it I think it was done, maybe.

I learnt this from our conversation last week, but it was done with the Australian

Cris: funds money. Yeah, that's what Sidey said, that there was a lot

Dan: I did learn it, see I did learn from this podcast. Sometimes I do listen.

Cris: that's what we, that's what we get. Yeah.

Dan: But I wonder if Mel is a big Robbie Williams fan.

Reegs: And we did have a nomination for Giants, which was last week's,

Dan: Oh right, okay, and who's our

Reegs: for Breachy. She's putting it inside a spoiler warning.

So if you can imagine I'm saying this in a spoilery voice, but she's saying at the end of Love Lies Bleeding, the characters become giants and run through the clouds, which I am very intrigued about because I think that's like a kind of lesbian action movie. I think so.

Cris: I've never heard of it, but Should we, oh, that definitely sounds amazing then.

Reegs: So,

Cris: I'm all for

Reegs: that's got to be in this week's pod, I would think.

Cris: I'll agree with that.

Reegs: yeah,

Dan: Okay, yeah, that's good. Thank you very much for reaching out, getting in touch. We've got another top five, though, this week. And it's top five archers, horse riders,

or Samurais,

Cris: because the only reason being I put all these three kind of together because I wasn't really sure know if we've because initially I just put I just thought Samurais but it would probably be I don't know what that was a joke should

Reegs: I don't like

Dan: I don't know.

Cris: was I meant to laugh for that I don't know what I

Dan: Definitely.

Cris: you kind of you both looked at each other but is that something that It's like a,

Dan: We like looking at each other sometimes. Yeah. You know?

Cris: Okay. Anyway, the, that was the whole point that I didn't know if we did summarize and if, or, or it's quite a, a, a limited kind of topic. It would've probably been two movies like international and the rest of them would've just been Japanese movies or, or maybe just. Korean Japanese been just Samurai, so I thought archers and horse riders

of

Reegs: it loosely.

Cris: a little bit in with everything else, so

Reegs: Well, who's going to start us off?

Dan: Should it be Chris?

Reegs: Yeah, it should be.

Cris: well the first archer I have in mind is it's fairly a Classic one, but it's Legolas, which is probably one of the most famous archers because all he does is shoots arrows

He doesn't really, barely uses a sword or that kind of short sword that they have, the elves.

Dan: This is Orlando Bloom in Lord of the Rings. with his blonde mullet

Cris: And, and the, the, yeah, and the, the he, the Pointee is and, and stuff. So I

Dan: he's elish, isn't he? Is he Elish? Is that El Presley? Yeah. Elish Presley. I

Cris: think he's probably one of the most.

Dan: Thank you very much.

Cris: Famous, especially considering how popular this franchise

Reegs: Yeah, I don't know. I don't think that can be done in

Cris: Yeah, I know.

Reegs: though. As

Cris: think that can be done in real life, though?

Reegs: get it, you can do

Cris: That's as in, look, I get it.

You can do it. But if you hit nothing, then.

Reegs: Yeah.

well, but you know, Elvish.

Cris: elvish.

Dan: tell you what, it kind of blends well with this conversation into a little bit of combat tactics in history and film versus reality. So I'll blend into that because you might think that the aim of in films is, is like, you know, your precision headshots and things.

Katniss, who I was going to mention in the Hunger Games and Rambo, who

Cris: Yeah. John Rambo

Dan: another kind of classic. But in fact, what they, the historical reality is that it used to be like a volley fired en masse to disrupt formations. So, it wasn't that accurate.

Cris: No, it was more a cloud of

arrows.

Reegs: Oh, that's what I'm, another trope I really like, when arrows are fired in a huge

Dan: well that

Cris: kind of going like that

Dan: going like that. And, and that's, that's more the case. And you also get some like Hawkeye, for example, we can curve around a building and everything and, and hit from, you know,

500 meters or something. But the effective range is about 240 meters for an English longbow.

Which

Reegs: Okay, so you're calling bullshit. So

it

Cris: a

Dan: So it is, it is, it is. But and then the rate of fire, which is kind of what you were talking about a little. You know, your rapid trick shots, three arrows in a second, Robin Hood and kind of, we've got many of those.

Reegs: Never running out of arrows.

Dan: but six, six to 12 arrows a minute is, is about as many as you could really sustain.

In, in a minute.

Cris: Oh, really? Okay. And with accuracy as well, not just kind of firing them in the sky, just randomly like that. Plus, I have to say, I don't know the modern arrow because I think with the modern one, just by listening to Joe Rogan when I was, I don't know, a bit younger, the way they do it is with a modern arrow or like the actual bow, you can pull and then it just stays.

You can lock it, once it's pulled, rather than you holding it, whereas in the times of Robin Hood, or in the times of Legolas, or in the times of John Rambo, there wasn't a lock on it, you just had to hold it with your own strength, which

Dan: well, this is stamina. You're right. The endurance, you know, they, they can't go for hours as they do in films.

In fact real medieval battles you could loose about 500 arrows a day.

Cris: Really?

Dan: that, you know, that would be maximum because of the stamina,

you know, that's

Cris: Riggs could do probably about

Reegs: a thousand. We

Dan: do a few thou

Reegs: yeah.

Cris: Have you got any, Is

Dan: Yeah, no, I was gonna mention Jennifer Lawrence who Kind of plays Katniss in the Hunger Games and my daughter came back from school and told me that this is what they've been watching I was like what

Cris: like, what? Is

Dan: you do at school? but They I don't know whether it was

Some historical thing, or it was a dystopian kind of future that they were concentrating on.

There's obviously a series of books as well so maybe they've just seen

Cris: you watched any of this Hunger Games? No,

Reegs: I keep

thinking

Dan: keep thinking about it. They're

Cris: the Hunger Games has the guy that you know, we were talking in the previous episode.

Sorry to interrupt you the

Dan: I'm used to it.

Cris: Doodle guy.

Reegs: Danny Houston

Cris: in

the Hunger Games as well.

Dan: he is. Yeah.

Reegs: Alright, okay. Yeah,

Cris: he's in the

Dan: Games. That's where I've seen him before.

Cris: I've seen I've seen the first one of the Hunger Games. And that was

enough for

Dan: there's a few. And they're surprisingly good. I, I resisted them for a long time, but my daughter got to an age where.

She was interested enough to want to watch them. So I sat down. And Jennifer Lawrence is excellent. And the characters are very good. You've also got Donald Sutherland in there. And the whole kind of dystopian future of those that have those that don't. You've got all these different quarters and rebellions and things like that.

The Hunger Games themselves are a bit like Running Man or something, you know, there's this television show of how they can big celebrities up and the, as the rebellions and the, The special people in Rebellions get further and higher up than their almost entertainers. You know, they're people that need to get an understanding of the mass, the masses of people.

And that's how they win. I've made it sound a lot more confusing than it is

Cris: I, I was gonna say, I, I've only seen the first one and I never had any, any, I didn't find it that appealing to

Dan: No, stick, stick, stick with them, I think.

Maybe, maybe

it could be a pod recommend one time, but I'll add in that for now, Hunger Games.

There's a few of them. I'll say the first one.

Cris: Okay. Probably, yeah. Content.

Reegs: So the samurai, they were members of Japan's warrior class from about the 12th century to about the 19th century as we discovered in

Dan: weren't they? Always worried about everything.

Reegs: The samurai,

Dan: the warriors. The Warriors,

Reegs: Yeah, very worried. They were the only Japanese citizens who were legally allowed to own swords. So that's good.

And they had this sort of elevated social status and bound to the Bushido. A code of honor. The

Cris: of Warrior, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Or the Warrior Code, I dunno how

Dan: say. Yeah. I guess that's why they were the only ones that were allowed swords, because they had a code.

Reegs: Man's gotta have a code

Dan: code.

Reegs: so

Akira Kurosawa is really who I associate with the samurai movies I've not seen all of I think he did 16 movies.

I've really not seen all of them. I'm not a completist Anyway, I have seen seven samurai that we talked about When we reviewed Magnificent Seven

Dan: That's a brilliant film,

Reegs: yeah, why, yeah and retold a number of different ways. And that kind of assembling a team structure influenced how heist films were made and all sorts of stuff.

And then directly inspired stuff like, as we said, Magnificent Seven and even A Bug's Life. Did you know, it's quite interesting, the original negative of the film has been lost. So in 2016, Toho, who also

did

Dan: not a positive, is it?

Reegs: No, but they completed a 4K restoration of the film using second generation, fine grained positive and third generation duplicate negative elements.

I'm sure you probably did

Dan: that.

Well, for all our geeks out there that just love those little

Reegs: But that's just happened in July 2024, they've just been able to restore it. So they've put it back on at the cinema, I think it's coming. Oh,

Dan: Oh, go and see that.

Reegs: that.

Dan: mean, you'll get your money's worth there. It's about four hours long.

Cris: long.

Reegs: the other one I wanted to talk about was the Hidden Fortress, which was the one that George Lucas, I watched because basically it was the

Dan: that's Star Wars. Yeah.

Reegs: I think it is a little bit overblown how much it, you know, they say it influenced Star Wars.

There are a couple of bits that are unmistakably like it because

Dan: didn't have Jabba the Hutt in it, did it?

Reegs: No, the story is told through two, you know, peasants, the equivalent of 3PO and R2, you know. And the bad guy does have a bit of a scar, and if you look at Vader, he does look a little bit samurai esque in his, like, armor. So, yeah.

And then the only other one was Throne of Blood. It was the only Kurosawa movie with samurai that's got kind of supernatural elements. It's a retelling of Macbeth.

Dan: Oh, right. OK, I've not seen that one.

Cris: yeah,

Dan: But, yeah. I would, I would definitely be up for the, the seventh samurai at the cinema.

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah.

Cris: it's

Dan: It's three and

a half if it's not four. Yeah, it's a chunk. They have an intermission as I remember. I'm gonna

say, brave This was a Pixar thing it was, or Disney, sorry, it was a Scottish princess, arrows and societal expectations and she was shooting her bow around I'll be shooting from my own hand, remains a moment that is, is memorable in it, and she's got this kind of, you know,

Brilliant red hair, fiery red hair, and she's taking no shit from no

Reegs: Oh, it's a big girl power story as well. I've forgotten the specifics of it but I remember watching it and really liking it. And they say thussle a

Dan: Aye, Fussel. Yeah, they do. Yeah, there's a little bit of magical kind of

beings in it as

Reegs: They're like some

Dan: Yeah, not leprechauns. They're like rocks or, or it's something in it. I can't, yeah, there's, there's some small little toadstool rock people, fairies or something. And it is, it's about empowerment and girl power and everything.

And it was one that I watched with my daughter back a few years ago. And I remember it did well to balance that fine line between a kid's show. But something that the adults

Cris: that you can enjoy.

Yeah.

Dan: well and you're not just nodding off the whole way through it.

Cris: Yeah.

I've got the, sorry, I've got the summarize. Two modern, two, three, maybe let's say, but two more modern versions of it. In a movie called Ronan with genre, no. And Robert DeNiro, which is a modern interpretation of which the guy doesn't, the guy

ano doesn't really have a sword.

But he's lives by that code and by the Bushido code and ghost dog that we did speak about before Forest Whitaker, which is again, he does have a sword as well, but he also has a

Reegs: He lived by the Hagar Kura or something,

Cris: Yeah, it's not necessarily the Bushido code, but he did have his own code and he did have a master and he did follow the code.

In a modern American

Reegs: Oh, that was great, man. I

Cris: Yes, yeah, yeah. I

Reegs: the pigeon shit.

Remember

all the pigeon

Dan: Yeah.

there was tons. There was tons.

Reegs: Have you got any more, Chris?

Cris: I've got the one, I don't have a specific name for them, but I do have a shout out to Shogun, which obviously I think we've all

Reegs: Yeah. We've all

Dan: it was

Cris: And there's a Have you not

Dan: that's, a treat

for

Reegs: It's good,

Cris: Yeah, it's good. And I've, I've read the books as well. And it's, it's really follows the books quite accurately, which I really enjoy when a movie does that.

And there's quite a lot of samurai content, obviously, because. It's futile Japan. And, and that's when, you know, the black ships arrived. And that's at the beginning of the black ships. He initially was the, the Portuguese then, and, and the Dutch then the English came over and, and they tried to, it was the Catholics versus the Protestants and, and it was a war within a war, within a war kind of thing.

and all that and the Shogun and then the Tyco and, and all these, and, and the, the book itself is a lot more. Specific on, on the social society and the layers and the levels of that era of

Reegs: cast with a cast system.

Is it? Yeah,

Cris: Yeah, it was, it was, and that's how I learned of the Samurais and what the Samurais were allowed to do, what they weren't allowed to do and how it says there's everyone has a face, has two souls.

or

two faces, one for which they show the world, and one that they have for themselves. And they never have, there's always two into one person. So it was really

interesting

Dan: is it is interesting when it's got that real tight knit reality on on what did happen. Yes. As, as this did. And the one that I learned most of my my, information about that kind of era was the great war with Matt Damon because that was obviously blended that historical spectacle with monsters and we all know they

Reegs: was China

Dan: well.

Yeah, it was awful though. There was loads of

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah. You enjoyed

Dan: was, it was a real bad one, as I remember. Oh, you dodged a

Reegs: We did it for the

Dan: dodged an arrow. Yeah.

Cris: Arrow.

Dan: It was, it was a real shitty, gritty, shitty one. That one. Okay. We, you could have watched it on Fast Forward.

Cris: forward.

Reegs: The Lone Wolf and Cubs series. It's basically about a shogun who's like seen as a traitor and sort of banished from this town. He didn't do it framed for disloyalty, I guess.

And then he's acquires his infant son. He's only about 18 months old. So it's that he's like wondering across the, you know, the, the shogun's territory. With his pushing his son in a, in a pram as he takes on. The regime. So quite like an iconic image

Cris: this cartoons or is it an actual

Reegs: No, it's a movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was a there's like six of them I think. I wanna say I've only seen the first two, and that was a very long time ago. 'cause a friend of mine was a big fan of these movies. And, it was adapted into a movie called Shogun Assassin in the 80s. So the first two or three movies were kind of edited into one movie and then re released, and it was a big inspiration for the Jizza from the Wu Tang Clan.

Dan: Okay, right, no, don't know, don't know anything about Jews.

Reegs: And then just very quickly Zai was the Blind swordsman. I've seen one of the Zai movies and it was the Inspiration

Dan: was going to be my

Reegs: choice.

Alright, we'll Is that what we're

Dan: Well, it's, it's a, well, it's a cult classic, isn't it? Action comedy and it was Rutger Hauer who's this blind swordsman slicing through sort of

crimes, crime syndicates and, and things like that. I mean, I won't go too much into all the, the plot of all that. But it was

Cris: It

Reegs: had

some charm

Dan: was absurd, but it had some charm as well.

Reegs: at the

Cris: was over the

Reegs: Oh yeah.

Dan: He was over the top in it and he was he was driving a car blind and, you know, there was all kinds of rubbish in it, but I remember

Reegs: it was another one where George Lucas literally did steal the shot for a phantom menace. Remember if the guy getting cut in half as he

Dan: getting cut

Reegs: Literally was

So that's your nom, Blind Fury.

I'm

Dan: I'm gonna go for Blind Fury I think it hit the mark with a nice bullseye.

Reegs: Chris, what have you got?

Cris: I'm going to go Legolas.

I don't have a fresh one. It's fairly straightforward. As soon as I thought of archers and archery, that was the first one that came to mind is and the one that the only the most memorable scene like you have all these things with the arrows and all that the memorable is the only one that I always whenever I hear or I think of the Lord of the Rings and I think about archery is when he Takes the arrow from his thing at the back, stabs a guy in the eye, or an orc in the eye, and then he fires it into someone else.

And that was quite, you know, it's almost like,

Reegs: Can you

Cris: can you do that? Yeah, it's pretty

Dan: something like that in the in the main in the the last battle But I think if I finish all this wine, i'll be legolas

Reegs: Well I'm torn between two.

Cris: You can put both. We're only three of us tonight,

so

Reegs: yeah.

Well, okay. Well, then I'm gonna put both in. Come on, that's greedy, innit?

Dan: I'm not sure you can do that. Is there, I mean, is

Cris: you can, yeah,

Dan: this game? What? Go on then, let's hear them. We

Cris: make the rules here.

Reegs: Well, one is Yondu from the MCU, do you remember he's the blue guy, he whistles and his

Dan: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

Cris: Oh, yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, okay, yes, yeah, yeah,

Dan: yep. Alright, we can have that.

Reegs: the other is Topper Harley from Hot Shots Part Deux. He's firing away at a guy and eventually runs out of ammunition so he picks up a chicken.

Cris: Oh, yes. Yes, that is brilliant. Yeah, that is

Dan: I've not seen that in a

Cris: Have you not?

I haven't seen it, That is that's

the

one when he, he puts the bandana and he walks into the wall, or, yeah. Yeah, that's brilliant, that.

Reegs: Yeah, well it's got to be that one

Dan: Okay. Well, let's see if you can't beat that and give, you know, Riggs only one because there's so many nominations that come in.

Reegs: in. Good idea.

Cris: Yeah,

Dan: a

South Korean historical film,

Cris: Yes. I have to say though, both the movies that we reviewing this week are based on an actual event, but not, it's not, they're just based on it, but not. Follow it to, to what it actually is.

Yeah. No? Does that, does that make

Dan: Yeah,

Cris: that accurate, what I'm saying there?

Dan: believe so. I think, you know,

Cris: Inspired by true events, was

Dan: Yeah, it's got sort of historical themes.

And it's, it's a big epic. It's set this in the Joycine Dynasty, and it's got that same brutal kind of warfare and moments of, I dunno, is it more brutal? It probably is getting chopped up a bit than being shot, but it's, you have to be up close and, and personal. No, one's better than the other. But being shot from a distance ain't no fun either.

I guess it just seems a lot less personal. I don't know. Never shot or stabbed anyone. Yeah, obviously he of time of time.

Reegs: trying. There weren't a lot of guns around in late 16th century in

Dan: got, yeah, well, we've got Sadie's dad do is what I was thinking. Anything can happen on that. But this this film kind of follows two childhood friends sort of thrown together.

Boys, you know, young kids will become friends. I was listening to A podcast the other day and this guy was saying that he was just in the park and his, he heard his son just going up to another kid and going, Oh, hi, I'm Johnny. Do you want to be friends? And they're going, yeah, okay. And then they just start playing together and they.

probably never see each other again after that, but it was, you know, that's kids. They would just go and introduce themselves. They'll start playing. They suddenly start becoming friends. And, and this has that element as well, where two young kids don't really understand the societal hierarchy that they're living in at the time.

And, and so just kick off. As friends, and kind of appreciate it, but there are those really harsh realities that start hitting on them. Because one is lowly born, and the other is, is like the son of the, the top man.

Reegs: Yeah, so It's a difficult film to talk about. It's split into a load of different chapters, four or five, and war, struggle, revolt, chaos, others probably. And there's a load of flashback and stuff, especially at the beginning to fill in the story.

But it does open with the death of a scholar named Jongyo Rip. He was a guy who set up a kind of utopian community. Where noblemen and slaves would share food and drink and practice, you know, practice martial arts together. You know, and this idyllic community, obviously this disrupted the social order, which threatened the king.

Sort of advanced ideas, like all people being equal and not that great when you're a king and in charge, and he happens to like having slaves. We see a great, actually, one of my. Moments I did like in this movie, a kind of musical number where all the slaves talk about what they do. You got the cook's cook, the sewer's sew, the guy who cleans the shitter cleans the shitter et cetera, et

Cris: happy, yeah.

Reegs: So he

Dan: we all know where we are.

Reegs: the king accuses this Jongyo Rip of treason, ransacks his peaceful utopia and then kind of gets Yongjo Rip to take his own life and he gets, he holds his head up as a sign of his treason.

Dan: has an Yeah, he is executed, isn't he? And. starts this kind of slave rebellion

Reegs: Well, yeah, it does. Exactly.

Dan: an uprising,

Reegs: Yeah, although it's complicated and convoluted how it happens. The story kind of happens in the aftermath of this. We meet a sort of shackled bedraggled man who's taken. This is Chong Yong and he's dragged through the town centre by the guards. His crime being that he's once again escaped from the king.

Dan: Yeah, he's a pretty master. He's a pretty good swordsman.

Reegs: Yeah. And he makes a threat to the guy that will later turn out to be the childhood friend slash whatever. I don't know, slave accompaniment. John, what was his name? His

Dan: Rio

Reegs: was Yes, that's right, So he he rages at him. He says i'll throw your whole family into a raging fire It's quite important that really because this will actually happen spoiler alert the we get a little shift back to the past a flashback then introduces Him as a child, Sean Young,

Cris: When he's trying to get adopted, well someone tries to adopt him, he's like, he was born free or

Reegs: Well, he's trying to be taken in basically the, the palace or the military official or whatever that he ends up working for. Just like your mother was sold into slavery to cover a debt. You were,

Dan: You were pregnant.

Reegs: was pregnant with you at the time. So you are a slave as well.

His father kills himself, actually hangs himself at

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. Well, he don't think that's very fair. So, he, he's arguing the part and he go, no, no. Look, it was all part of you know, the, the slave trade there. And you were prayed. That was just thrown into the bargain with it.

So you are a slave even though you weren't even born. Yeah, never had a chance.

Reegs: chance. So he is sent off to be a literal whipping boy. So the young master, Yi Jong Ryo, is learning to fight, albeit badly. His father is a military official, and he, you know, it takes great pride in all of his sons being accomplished martial artsmen, and there's some exam that he's gotta take.

Dan: He shitted

Reegs: shitted

it, yeah. And so as a consequence, Chong Yong is getting the shit beaten out of him because he takes whippings for every time.

Dan: whippings for

Reegs: Every time there's a mistake. So he takes matters you

Cris: Yeah, he passed.

Dan: That's

Reegs: he's introduced,

Dan: isn't it? And after that

Cris: that he flees, sees, runs to his house, sees dad killed himself by hanging, and then he gets caught by these slave hunters kind of

Dan: It's also complicated when

Cris: when the language, it's all in Korean and Japanese and then

Dan: Yeah, well, I didn't have the subtitles on.

I was just trying to practice my Korean and

Cris: Oh, did you

Dan: so, it was quite hard to concentrate as I was translating

in my mind. But then

Cris: it just kind of goes through the journey of them in adulthood

Reegs: basically.

Yeah. He basically, when they're young Sean Young takes it upon himself to teach the kid at night. He's like, I'm tired of getting my ass kicked on your behalf. I'm going to teach you to be a fighter. And so they do, and it kicks off this friendship and then a number of years pass and they have become friends.

Dan: Well, there's a, there's a good moment where he actually does something good, isn't it? He defends himself against one of the, the trainers and the, the guy who whips him, he's just got so into the habit of whipping him

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: just kind of, and then one that he realizes, wait a minute. He did something good.

He didn't fuck up. I, I don't whip him and, and this little smile breaks out over the kid's face and, and both of the kids, they're, they're kind of going and they can eventually get to the stage where they say, all right, you don't need to be whipped anymore. And they, they break the, the sticks, the whipping sticks, and it's a bonding moment and they feel, and they're lovely.

The, the child actors actually, the playlist, they're, they're

Reegs: was the best part of the movie, probably this part.

Yeah. So yeah, later, as, as adults, he still can't pass. He's not good enough to pass the exam. So Chong,

I'm just gonna call him the Slave in the Prince 'cause I'm not doing very well with the names. And so. The slave guy he decides to take the exam on behalf of the prince kid and,

Cris: And he wraps his hand in a red thing because as a runaway slave, he gets a stamp, like a, I don't know how you call it, with a fire on the thing on your, on your wrist kind of, yeah, it's branded. So then he says, Oh, if anyone asks, you've cut yourself and he does cut the prince's arm.

hand to show that there's a scar, there's a scar there and they wraps this red thing around it and they just show the fist and

Reegs: Yeah,

Dan: yeah, well he has agreed, look, pass this and you'll be free,

Cris: you'll be free. Yeah, you'll

Dan: be free, yeah.

Cris: The dad.

Reegs: He does, well he, not only does he not pass, yeah, not only does he pass it, he, he's first and he wins a prestigious sword for for his accomplishments and a blue robe which is instantly then given to the prince kid You know, apparently he did the act, but like you say Chong, Chong Yong, he goes, the slave goes back to get his freedom.

But the dad's the military general's not having it now. He's like, you're a bit too dangerous really, because everybody could know that my son's accomplishments are. So, he's not going to be freed. In fact, I think he sends some hunters to kill

Cris: kill him. Well, yeah, because he, well, he's running,

Reegs: he

Cris: runs away and then he sends these guys after him.

Reegs: we do get a little bit of fighting in this sequence and it's slightly closer to the kind of wuxia thing that you were describing Chris the fighting in this although it has got its own look as well.

I kind of loved the pia the camera attached to the sword

Cris: Yeah, it does look quite cool. No one is moving around a little bit. It is confusing though. Yeah. When, when they do that, it's like, but then yeah, he, he, he runs away and he

Reegs: away and yeah, I think he's helped by the prince. John Rio helps him, gives him his sword and sends him off. And they get word, anyway, they get word of a Japanese invasion happening. So the military guy up sticks and fucks off.

And at the same time, his servants rise up and burn his mansion to the

Cris: well, yeah, because it's only the women left. Yeah. And, and one guard or a couple of guards and, and all his stuff basically. Yeah. There's a, there's an Japanese invasion so we can get in on the act and

Reegs: As they run off, the, you know, the young prince and his father, military father, they turn back and they see things in flames.

And Chong, Chun Yong

Cris: He's been caught and he's in the barn or something. And he's

waking

up in the smoke

Reegs: of. It comes too. Yeah. I think it's basically connecting with one of the earlier parts of the movie now, isn't it? Yeah. And he goes to try and save people, including the prince's wife and son, and she won't accept the help of a slave.

I think she calls him

Dan: Yeah.

Cris: brute. A brute, yeah. A brute. Yeah,

Reegs: And she actually turns back into the house and it collapses on her in a really bad

Dan: her baby,

Cris: In her arms, yeah, which And and

Reegs: even?

Dan: And, and, and,

this is it. This kind of this class struggle has meant that She is now dead, and also means that the threat that he'd said earlier that he's going to burn everybody to the ground they believe that that is exactly what he's done, but in fact he did try to stop this happening, he did try and save her, but she just due to her own kind of madness has decided she would rather burn to death And this goes through the film really, this, this kind of theme then of shattered trust between jealousy, but, but, you know, it was, the, the shame.

These two kids who really got on and, and left to their own devices would have been good friends, but this class system has divided them up. It's meant that they're sworn enemies now and that the trust is shattered and broken. And,

Cris: And the prince ends up as the emperor's private guard while the emperor is trying to flee the capital while the capital is being burned by his own by the Japanese

Reegs: and his own people.

Cris: And

the slave joins a force that is Made out of pretty much everyone that's left, but still against the Japanese, almost to still defend the country carries on his

Reegs: noble guy

Cris: some other noble guy,

that's

a general.

Yeah. And some other,

Reegs: A guy who can throw stones, which I liked, and a guy who's got a meat cleaver. That's basically it. And they kick the shit out of the Japanese, it's great.

He organizes them into a cool little army, it's a good scene actually. And they defeat them but it ends up with him fighting the general on the Japanese side. His name is Genshin. And it ends

Cris: got a really cool

Reegs: Helmet, yeah,

Cris: And the whole costume

Reegs: he looks fucking rad, and he's properly in his samurai outfit, and they fight on the edge of a cliff, and he, and Chun Yong falls off they sort of fight to a stalemate, he falls off, and then cut to seven years later, the war's ended but the king is still being a dick, he's like, oh, we've got to rebuild the city, the, the palace needs to be, how big was it before, 600 rooms, it needs to be 6, 000 this time,

Dan: Draws it over, you know, the, the word is the spine, you know, without the palace signifying this you can't just get by on an idea. You need something bigger than that as well. And so very much is these material goods and these, these these huge buildings where people are starving, you know, everybody else around them

Reegs: Yeah, you get shown that a lot.

Dan: yeah, haven't got a pot to piss in.

And he's talking about that. Thing, six, you know, 6, 000 rooms and everything.

Cris: And I want the

Reegs: just been at war for seven

Dan: Yeah. Even his son is saying, do you not think we've got different priorities? And he's going, no, I fucking don't look. This is why the word for honoring and King is, is drawn down the spine. And this spine is the house that we live in.

Reegs: But they do say that one of his advisors, or the noble men or whoever it is that reports to him, says to him, oh, you know, you should start like giving people their freedom if they fight the Japanese and all the remaining Japanese forces and stuff.

So that idea of like. Equality that started the movie at the beginning is starting to bubble up and filter up again through through the movie

so

because

that Japanese militia guy is Was still free wasn't he so they they catch him that is he the nose

Cris: The

Reegs: The nose snatcher.

Cris: nose snatcher. Yes. Yeah,

Dan: against, yeah,

Reegs: mate,

Cris: the nose snatcher.

Reegs: Fuck me. What they tell you about that at the end or whether maybe I read it? I dunno about the true scale of it, but so yeah, they capture him

Cris: Yeah.

the slave and the ragtag army. They capture him in the forest.

Reegs: And they take him off to present him to the king, basically an

Cris: With the treasure.

Reegs: the they don't have the

Cris: Half the treasure. They do have half the

Reegs: half of it. Yeah. So in expectation of their freedom, here's the Japanese general, here's some treasure and

Cris: And give us our freedom,

Reegs: given a big welcome by the people. Great. We're going to get our freedom, but in yet another betrayal they accuse him of treason and they kill. The general guy, and all of his men and all that Chen Yong, the slave guy, escapes, firstly, having a little fight with the slave guy the prince guy.

This is where you see their faces reflected in their swords, quite

Cris: And he, he, when he escapes he just jumps that kind of brick fence, quite cool as well.

Reegs: yeah. Oh yeah. Just

Cris: a bit of parkour, yeah, he does a bit of

Reegs: And this is when they decide to go after the treasure. Yeah. They

Cris: but they both decide to go after the treasure.

The emperor and the prince and the slave and what's ever left of his army. You can see kind of his struggles. He gets again together with a chick with a stick and

Reegs: and there's the nobleman who'd been a steady guy.

For a long time throughout this movie, the noblemen have been helping him when they find a treasure. He's like, right, who wants to fuck off rebuilding the country and just go and live like kings for a bit. You're like, Oh, my God. Yeah. So that that happens. They betray slave Chong Yong, and they take the money off.

They are then taken out by the Japanese. They bring the stuff back to the

Cris: And decapitated all of

Reegs: All of them, decapitated, yeah. Because their heads are strung up in a little thing. And then he goes back to the beach, the Japanese general, and takes his money

Cris: Well, that's the thing, because the Japanese general, after he was made prisoner, The prince comes up with the idea, let's release the nose snatcher to catch, to catch the slave.

And so what? This guy that killed all our people cut their noses off. Should we just hire him and not even do anything to him? He'll, he'll just work for us. Now, yes,

Reegs: So, he brings the gold back to the beach, at which point

Cris: but at this point, they have guns.

Reegs: got guns. They do have guns. We've seen them fired to devastating effect. At which point the prince then turns those guns on the Japanese and says, right, you're going to get betrayed now.

We're going to take the money. The plan was never for you guys to be alive at the end of this anyway. And they shoot them, except the guns, this plan literally backfires in their face.

Dan: Because they haven't loaded the

Reegs: They didn't maintain the weapons, the Japanese guys did, so they all blow up, like there's hands going everywhere and faces getting scarred and all sorts.

Big fight on the beach at this

Dan: the fog rolls in

Cris: yeah.

Dan: and this is it. You've, you've got all the way through this blue robe, which he's kind of called a beggar's robe.

Reegs: It's got a sort of mythic, like, Robin Hood type, not quite Robin

Dan: unites.

It unites the, the the uprising, you know, it gives them something to get behind because it's very.

Flowing and flamboyant and it with it being so striking this, this kind of royal blue robe it gives these the slaves something to, to get behind. So it's united all these rebels, and I think he's, he's samurai.

They, they have this huge battle, don't they? And it's the fog's going in. There's one moment where we've got an archer,

Cris: Yeah.

Dan: As, as one of the sort of sub characters. But he's, he's a really, you know, he's in all the battles and you see him taking out people in. At one moment he's not quite quick enough to get the the shot away But he uses the arrow stabs a guy and then uses the arrow again to fire off a bit like legolas And this blue roll robe, sorry sort of um Embodies the the revolution.

And it galvanizes the oppressed so they all kind of getting together and given you know that even it can be weaponized just a

Reegs: bit of cloth

Cris: a

three way fight. There is? Yeah, Genshin the blue robed god and the prince. They all kind of fight each other, well, each other really, and Towards the

Reegs: I seriously disliked this stretch of the movie.

I was getting

Cris: Towards the end they kind of figure out while they're fighting that you believe that I threw your

Reegs: missus in the kitchen.

Cris: in the fire and, oh, is that what you believe? Oh, then stabbed me in my hand and

Reegs: How much time has passed? Like eight, nine years. And he's believed a falsehood about him.

Dan: and he goes is that what you believed and he put his hand up really just to say stop that's not and the sword goes right through his hand

and he's got then the perfect opportunity to kill him but

The panic kind of drops for him where he's looking at him and he realizes he's not bullshit and he goes Your missus jumped into the fire because she called me a brute, you know, she didn't believe

Reegs: we are both victims of this.

Dan: Yeah, yeah that she didn't believe you know, and he he kind of thinks back a little bit and you can see him going Yeah, she was kind of very, you know

Reegs: It's specifically because of the word brute that he uses, isn't it?

And he knows that that's a word that she would use.

Dan: knows that's true

Cris: then the robe the blue robed god, the slave, he kind crumbles a little bit. The prince has a fight, the kind of final fight with Genshin where he gets killed.

Dan: Well, he's

about to he's about to kill Genshin's about to kill the blue robe guy, isn't he? But he, he gets defended

Reegs: then. All of

Dan: lot of that

Reegs: changes, doesn't it? And,

Dan: intervene against Genshin. Honor just changes, doesn't it?

And,

Reegs: loyalties

Dan: they

Cris: is against who and all that. But it's kind of, that's the final fight.

Reegs: then Genshin does take out the prince,

Cris: Yeah, he does take all the

Reegs: horrible actually. And then there's been a thing the whole way through that his death was prophesied right at the beginning of the movie the generals that he would be stabbed by his own hand in his own throat.

Cris: Yeah.

Reegs: And so I was waiting for this to happen. And in a massive rage, the blue robed God, the print the

Cris: the he slices both

Reegs: slices both his arms off to see, and then stabs holding his.

I

guess, like, wrist stump? Yeah. Holding his own wrist Holding the other guy's wrist stump, which is still holding his own sword.

Cris: Stabs him in the back

Reegs: through the back of the neck.

Head,

Dan: Some way to go.

Reegs: Mmm.

Cris: that is a quite a cool little scene though, when, when he, when you see the sword with a hand holding a sword on another sword kind of thing.

It's, it's just,

Reegs: yeah. That was cool, yeah. And so, yeah, I didn't really know what was, you know, necessarily happening at this point, or what I was supposed to feel about anything.

Dan: about anything.

No, this was Wait,

Reegs: hang on, we just have the the last bit with the nose catcher. Yeah. Nose snatcher

Cris: yeah. When they send the

Dan: Well, yeah, so it goes back to the Emperor, who, who's very excited to hear that a load of treasure has turned up.

Cris: But there's no guards. Yeah. The ship came full with the containers. Yeah. But there's no guards. There's no

Dan: there they

Cris: still excited.

Dan: excited. And they open it up and it's just filled with salt and he's like, what the fuck? Or sand or whatever it is, it's white salt or sand. And so they're asked to just spill these big heavy boxes, these huge kind of.

And there's lots of little kind of bits inside red. Almost triangles. And one guy holds one up and the camera goes right over.

Cris: That's actually quite cool the way that he lifts it

Dan: perfectly kind of show and he holds it up to nose high and it is a nose he's holding and they've, it must be, you know.

Cris: Hundreds of

Dan: Thousands of

Reegs: say at one point, didn't he, you don't need a

Dan: He does say at one point, didn't he, you don't need a nose to, to fight and live, do you? The,

Reegs: think they

Cris: mental.

Dan: think they did survive, they just had no nose.

Reegs: And elsewhere, just to wrap the story up the Blue Robe God starts kind of a new community inspired by the work of Chun Young rip or whatever

Cris: So it kind of goes full circle from the guy at the beginning that dies to this guy that carries on his legacy kind of thing.

Reegs: so,

Cris: yeah.

it was, it was

Reegs: long, man. Pacing was all over the place in this movie is very convoluted.

Dan: And

it cut back a lot of time, you know, it went

Cris: I think it would have been, if it would have been everything in English or in a language that you, that we understand and, and not, and look, I'm going to sound racist here, but They're Asian, and I don't, I don't know, and I don't want to sound horrible, but I don't know the difference between

Reegs: I I just think, I think it's just about,

Cris: the difference between outfits, it was just very complicated

Reegs: Yeah. But Right. We watched that movie, samurai Marathon. Yes. Which I think was equally complicated in terms of its like setting and multiple characters and that sort of thing. But because it was well written.

Well executed. You didn't really have any problem following the story. I wouldn't have said this one was like any more convoluted except for the fucking excessive number of betrayals and,

Dan: you didn't know which way was which. A lot of way through the movie.

Reegs: I think that was just 'cause it was, I all over the place really.

Dan: The pacing was definitely cut back when they were younger, they're older and given it was a foreign language film as well, that made it a little more difficult for me to understand who was exactly fighting who at some point and why they had a beef against somebody else.

So

Reegs: a lot of the drama is very much in melodrama territory as well, like really over the top and I know they love that sort of shit.

Like, you know, that's very popular, but it's not necessarily resonates with me.

Dan: was a lot of you know, symbolism and things going on with different parts of the blue road, for example, or you know, the, the uprising. So, yeah, I, I had actually I think I said to you before I had started to watch this and then canned it after about 20, 25 minutes. So thrilled when you pulled it out for the pod and I thought, no, go on, give it a go.

Maybe I was wrong, but I was right.

Cris: Yeah.

Dan: It wouldn't have been one that I'd normally seen all the way

through.

Reegs: Do

Cris: Do you know what? This was the one that I watched when I went to London a couple of last months and I I watched it on the plane, but I watched kind of half of it on the plane, then I was going to finish it.

When, when I got there to the hotel, I kind of just before bed, I kind of watched another 10 minutes, then I fell asleep, then I tried to carry on. I didn't really finish it. I, I probably got based on the beginning

and, and I quite liked the beginning with a kid with, you know, and a bit of sword action.

And I didn't really know how long it's going to go and how much is going to be all this complicated back and forth and melodrama and all that. So based on that, it's a, it's an average recommend, I would say it's got a few good bits and a few really good scenes, but it could have been done a lot.

Better and a lot more linear than, than what it actually was for, I would say probably the Western

Reegs: Yeah. like

Cris: like me or a simple public like, like myself.

Reegs: Yeah, yeah. So, strong recommend?

Cris: Yeah,

Reegs: Oh, so Dan, did you see this?

Dan: I missed this one, I'm afraid. But I'm hearing good

Reegs: That is a shame because this was good. This was on Amusha.

Cris: Onimusha,

Reegs: And it is based on a video game series.

Dan: okay.

Reegs: at least that was my reference to it.

I had played at the On Amusha. On the PS two.

Cris: PS2. Oh, did you? Okay. I've never played it. I knew that it was a game. I didn't know how it was gonna be. I did know that it's not a movie and it's a cartoon.

Yeah. Which I prefer

Reegs: manga originally maybe.

Cris: Is it? I'm not really sure. It looks cool, though. It looks slick,

Reegs: This looked fucking amazing and the part of what it looks amazing is directed by Takashi Miki. Who did Audition, Ichi the Killer, One Missed Call, Dead or Alive, loads of that stuff. And then the character work is based on, um, no, Toshiro Mifune, another Kurosawa. So he was in Those movies we talked about earlier, Rashomon and Seven Samurai and Throne of Blood and Hidden Fortress and all that stuff.

So basically this, the whole premise of Onimusha is it dictates like historic figures and Japanese folklore and kind of merges them and smashes them up and retells them with a bit of supernatural stuff in it. And Onimusha literally translate as Oni warrior. Oni is a kind of like demon. So he's a demon warrior.

Dan: And, and so this season one, episode one started at the

beginning?

Cris: season one, episode one, you started at the beginning, Demon? As in like someone that a 12-year-old watch, because this is a lot of No,

Reegs: No, it's pretty violent. It's pretty violent.

Cris: pretty

Dan: Oh, right, okay.

Cris: and, yeah, it's,

Dan: So, although it's an animation, this is like an 18 kind of

Reegs: it's more on that world.

Cris: probably. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: So it starts with a snowflake falling from the sky, from very high to the blade of Mui who is engaged in a battle against 11 men.

Cris: In a temple in the mountain

Dan: No. Lock the kids away. Yeah,

Reegs: lock the kids away.

Cris: Yeah. Don't show this to the kids.

Dan: kids.

Reegs: They've got those spears and those double-ended weapons, I dunno what they're called, double lenders. And then he takes them all down. I think he's completely unarmed as well, actually.

Cris: at the big Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: them all down unarmed. And,

Cris: uses, he uses their own

Reegs: against

Cris: towards the end, but he uses the back end of it where they, they all have the potential to cut him or kill him.

But when he uses them, he just turns them around and just kind of stabs them a little bit with the, with a blunt end.

Reegs: And the visual style is, is great. The animation is really energetic and it can, it beautifully combines the best of like CGI and what appears to be hand drawn animation is probably CGI of another type, but it looks really great.

Cris: I

find that it does throughout the movie, in between the action scenes and the other scenes, there's such a big difference within how slowly paced it actually is compared to How quick, yeah, how quick the violence and the fighting scenes are, let's

say.

Reegs: And it's really dynamic. Anyway, so at the end of the fight, he asks this weird old master guy, if he can borrow something, I need to borrow it for 33 days.

He says,

Cris: well, no,

I, I fought in two days. I fought, today I fought 11 and yesterday I fought

12 whatever. So, I've defeated 33 men.

Reegs: borrow it

Cris: So, I can borrow it for 33 days.

Reegs: And we don't know what it is. So the

Cris: it's a box.

Reegs: he just chuckles and then leads him off to a box, does some weird prayer. And then sales, right? You can have it, but you've got to bring it back in 33 days.

And also you've got to take my. Apprentice Kaizen, he's got a gun with you. So, he's, as he leaves, the master says, what are you going to do with it? And we still don't know what's in this box. And he just turns back and he says, beat on ease, which it sounded like a jerking off thing, but I think he meant hunt demons.

And it's blam title card demon. And then, so they set off together and they meet a bunch of people on the way. I don't want to go into it in too much detail.

Cris: No, it's, it's, it is another, it's like a, his crew, there's a few, there's a guy with like a fat boy that kind of just sleeps around, there's a guy,

Reegs: a lot of scars

Cris: there's a guy with a scar on the eye.

He's got one eye and he's more like the older leader of the, of, of them. And, and then they kind of tell the story of

Reegs: E. M. on. Yeah. He was

Dan: I'm just looking at the animation while you were chatting about it and it does look really

Reegs: And there's so many different within. The styles you go from these like the beginning is all gray and bleak in in the fortress where he fights and then when he Talked when they're on this bit the sort of journey part.

It's all pastel hued and looks

Cris: Greenery and

Reegs: and meadows and all that stuff then later It'll be like it will be night and they'll fight in front of a raging fire in silhouette and

it'll

Cris: And the fire kind of looks that it's everywhere afterwards,

Reegs: the animation style is great. Anyway, so they talk about Yermon and

Cris: This other leader that, like a local leader and they're having an argument and

Reegs: He incited a rebellion and all this stuff amongst the villagers, all this great stuff that comes and a spy came and was beaten to death or half beaten to death and sent back. And what else? Oh, they still don't know what's in the box. They still don't know what's a box. Eventually it turns out one of them is a traitor, right?

And not

Cris: Yes, well, that's the thing. The idea is the local leader hired Musashi, who by chance was in the village when all this shenanigans

Reegs: Matsuki, that was

Cris: his name.

Yeah, to go hunt Yemen,

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: who Turns out

Reegs: To be a

Cris: to be a demon. To be a demon. Yeah.

Reegs: You see that with his tongue, doesn't he? He catches a bit like a flaming log that's fired at him or whatever with his like enormous tongue that

Cris: But Mui is, is a, is a silent observer. And throughout the, the, the whole thing, because it's a 35 minutes.

episode, he, he kind of observes certain things. And he, he does say he's got these little quotes that he's a warrior. Doesn't always act in the battle. He always sits and observes and sees everything and whatever. So then over the night in the, when they have the campfire, he's like, I've been with you for these two days or whatever.

There's, there's three traders here.

Or

three bad men. Three bad men. There's three bad men and they're traitors. Yeah. And one of them is like, Oh, how dare you? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then he turns out and he's like, No, it's the old boy. It's not you. It's this guy. And the guy's like, Ha, ha, ha. He kind of just turns.

He's like, Yes, I am. Yeah. So what? I'm loyal to Yemen. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then, does he? Kill the old boy. Yeah, he kills you up quite quickly. Actually, he's a car. Look, even now, Yemen was right. I'm just a low life samurai who never fought anyone interesting. And now I'm fighting the famous Musashi and then Musashi in two moves just, just done and then this guy's, the old boy's apprentice turns out to become a demon quite quickly and his tongue rolls out, his eyes are rolling out, all this, he basically starts looking like a

Reegs: Yeah. And, and then that's when he gets in the box, isn't it? Yes. So he has to go, he gets the on gauntlet, the wanking gauntlet, and it pulls it out.

This is all like neon and stuff as well. Looks really cool. And so he

Cris: and stuff as well, looks really cool.

Reegs: Yeah, there's a name for it. Oh, what is it called?

Cris: Is that the word? Bracelet? There's,

Reegs: forehead, Bracer. Is that the word

Cris: on

Reegs: for? There's, there's, yeah. The long thing on your four.

It's like a gauntlet or whatever. I dunno. Fuck where he uses it to beat the fuck outta this guy. Anyway.

Cris: Yeah, it's a good, it's a cool scene because it kind of goes to supernatural. And he, he's, he gets battered before he finally gets the gauntlet and then he fights it and he's like, oh, this is too difficult. I couldn't wear it. All the time, and he just puts it back in the box.

Reegs: the box. Yeah, so, you know, the Odyssey will continue, they've got their journey to continue on, but they've already lost two guys, I think, from from the beginning party,

Cris: Yeah, the old boy with the eye, and the demon

Reegs: demon guy.

Cris: kill. And, at the end, he's like, ah, well, he goes to sleep, and these are, there's three that are the apprentice, and these are two other guys that are left there, the guy with the

Reegs: the

Cris: and the fat boy, and he's like, in the morning, the guy goes, Oh, you said there's three bad men here and there's a traitor amongst us.

He's like, yeah, well, that's how you kept guard and I could sleep and rest. And then he's like, yeah, well, you said there's three bad men. Well, yeah, two of them are dead and the other one's me.

So again, kind of a cool ending to it, let's

say. A bit of humor as well, but yeah, it was good. I like this. I never heard of it.

I've never seen it before, but I enjoyed it. I was actually thinking I might give it a go to watch it. I think it's eight episodes all in all, so I might give it a go and watch all of them.

Reegs: I think it's worth just seeing from an artistic point of view, because it just looks

Dan: Well, it is a 16, so technically it is for kids just older kids, and I like this kind of stuff as well.

There was a Batman kind of anime that I watched back in the last year, which I really enjoyed. It was just 10 parts and,

Reegs: The Caped Crusader, we did it for the

Dan: yeah, and and I ended up watching all of them, you know, I just sort of binged through it and

Reegs: I would watch another one of these, it was good.

Dan: And so, yeah, okay, I shall I shall pull my finger out and watch it.

Reegs: Yeah? Yeah. Strong recommend.

Cris: Yeah for me too. Yeah, it was good

Dan: Well, it's my choices, and I've got them.

Cris: Have you Wow.

Dan: Well, I've got one of them.

Cris: Okay, let's

Reegs: What have you got?

Cris: Less enthusiastic. Well, then

Dan: Do I have to say the name now as well? You can put

Cris: it on the group,

Dan: group. I'll put it on the group.

Reegs: Tell the listeners.

Dan: But it's Cause we watched it in Czech.

Reegs: Blind

Dan: yeah. So, it made it, it made it a little more difficult, but it is not a Czech film. We just watched the, we watched it in English. Sorry, we just watched it through the Czech channel. So everything comes through Czech, the name. It,

Cris: is it dubbed in Czech or is it just subtitled? And you hear it in original English

with Czech subtitles.

Dan: about a young a young lady who sails around the world. Jessica Watson, I believe her name is. And let me find the name of this. There you go. I think the film is called Spirit. True Spirit, it's called. It's Annetta's thing. It's

Reegs: this sounds shit.

Dan: Well, we enjoyed it. It was a family thing.

Reegs: Oh, it's a family thing. All right.

Dan: thing.

So, it's something you can watch with your kids and it's the true story of an Australian sailor who at 16 years old decided she was going to, or not then, but long before then, had decided she wanted to be the youngest sailor across the world. Dyslexia and Wanted to, to be helped to read and everything and so the first book that she ever got round was a sailing book and then she obviously it was in her mind.

She thought, what? People can do that. People sail around the world. Well, I'm going to do that. I'm going to be the youngest sailor in the world to go around the world. And parents going, yeah, okay, well, you know, you'd have to do this, this, this, and this. Then if you wouldn't do that, she goes, right,

Reegs: and then I'll do this, this, this, and this.

Dan: So she she does this this and that it is based on a true story it does have a little bit of artistic license, but

That will be the the main and I will put the rest of the features That will surround that in our chat. So look forward to that

Cris: yeah. Sailors, ahoy.

Reegs: So all the remains is to say, yeah.

Cris: La

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