The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar & SSSniperwolf

Henry Sugar

Dan: Welcome

Reegs: What a prick.

Dan: Can't say welcome. Oh go on, you do it

Reegs: Welcome to Bad Dad's Film Review, the podcast where a bunch of movie loving dads who once sacrificed their cinematic passions at the altar of parenthood are finally clawing their way back to the big screen, and just to spice things up we'll also dive headfirst into the abyss of our kids questionable viewing choices so that you don't have to.

Now, it's probably bold of me to assume anyone was listening last week, much less all the way through to the end, but if you were, and you heard Dan confidently announce that this week's choices would involve the classic pig identity crisis movie, Babe, you might have assumed there would be something of a more cohesive theme this week than the frankly Frankenstein esque show we have viewed.

Which tonight kicks off with us taking a... Look through Peter's Tinder profile as we discuss the Top 5 Pigs in Movies. Before we take a look at Netflix's Roald Dahl adaptation, The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar, brought to us by director Wes Anderson, a man who never met a whimsy he couldn't charm with his quirkiness.

And then we finish things up with a recommendation provided by Dans Youngus, who asks us to plumb the depths of banality to review YouTube content creator SSS Sniperwolf. S Sniperwolf?

Dan: Sniper Wolf,

Reegs: And if you thought reality TV was the zenith of modern shallowness and mediocrity, then this might give you pause to think again.

A quick disclaimer for you, our film reviews may contain trace amounts of actual film analysis, which is very much accidental. Listener discretion is advised. And with all that said and done, there's just the dads left to introduce, starting with Sidey, who this week has finally mastered the art of juggling flaming, but definitely completely soundproof.

chainsaws. I wonder if you'd give us a quick demonstration of that, please, Sidey. Whoa! Whoa!

Dan: again every week.

Reegs: We also have Dan, whose first cinema experience was so long ago, he had to hand crank the projector, by which I mean he masturbated a homeless man in the dark. We also have Peter, whose family gatherings are like a marathon, only with a lot more participants and a lot fewer running shoes.

And finally, there's me, Riggs. Hello.

Pete: Hello.

Dan: Good eye.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Well, we normally talk about what we've been watching. Have you guys been watching anything of note? Oh, Pete. Wow. Okay,

Pete: Ryder Cup.

Dan: Ah, well, okay.

Sidey: Wasn't it glorious?

Pete: Yeah, the, the, the continents of Europe unifying against the

Sidey: A common foe. Yeah,

Reegs: Yeah.

Pete: it was, yeah, it was amazing. Oh yeah,

Sidey: Let's go off. We actually them. Yeah.

Pete: It was beautiful. Yeah.

Reegs: And we swung the golf bats as good as anyone else.

Even

Sidey: Better than

Reegs: than them,

Dan: Better than them

Pete: That was, that

Dan: in rome

Pete: I seriously, like for, so considering I never watch any other golf in, in any other form and have no interest in playing it myself, the Ryder Cup, it, it's peaks my interest.

No end every time it comes around,

Dan: Yeah, it's it's One of those competitions in a sport that is otherwise very conservative and, you know, understated in winning and losing, you rarely see emotion.

It spills out.

Reegs: in this

Dan: Yeah, it spills out in this. This is the fans and

Pete: and... Anyone see that fella just run straight across the green and chuck himself in the lake? Like, it's brilliant.

Dan: Yeah. They get a bit more rowdy.

Reegs: that made its way even to a non golf person like me.

Sidey: that. Yeah, so they did that. They did that years and years ago. 99 something like that at Brookline where they they all ran on all of them ran on and danced while we're still waiting to part and they basically did that again.

It was just the caddy who did it but there was all this about not wearing like they're so pathetic that his can't they wanted to protest about not getting paid. You never get, no one's ever been paid for the ruckus, I don't know why they're raising it now. But, they get paid to play in the old, the, the President's Cup.

And so there was this whole fuckin like, bullshit thing about not wearing a cap. And so the caddy, like... Ran and round and fucking waved his cap right in front of McElroy where he was about to putt and McElroy wasn't fucking pleased about it. Because the game wasn't over, you know, he still had his putt.

Yeah, it's just like, golf's one of those things that has etiquette and whatever. So he didn't, like, adhere to the traditions and all that fucking bullshit. So it spilled out into the car park where...

Pete: it was about the park, I think. Because the BK wasn't over,

Sidey: But McElroy, like, he was never going to fight anyone, let's be honest.

But he's fairly light built, you know, he like, he would have fucking... Twatted that guy. And Larry,

Dan: an

Sidey: would have just like gone full knacker and

Dan: Ryder Cup imagine a full on like pile up. Yeah

Reegs: style in

Sidey: up, a dust up in the car would have been

Dan: fancy Shane Lowry to lever a few but yeah did watch that as well. I watched this film with Michael Penner Pena Pena, that's right I think it was called a million miles away where he is basically the true story of a guy called Jose Fernandez, I think, who ended up, from being a child like migrant worker in the farm to becoming an astronaut and, and following that story as he did it. So many knockbacks and, and so many opportunities that he didn't get that he worked hard and eventually got this chance. And yeah, it was, it was a bit of a tearjerker. I enjoyed it.

My

Sidey: Okay. My daughter and I are watching Wander because I think they're reading it at school or something. It's a story about a child who is born with a huge amount of disfigurement and stuff. And he, he is under, he's undergone like so many operations and then he's always been homeschooled by his mother.

Julie Roberts is even more fucking grotesque to look at. And um, Eventually she has to stop homeschooling him and send him

Dan: homeschooling him to... Owen Wilson's the dad,

Sidey: Wilson's dad also fairly challenging to visually but eventually he has to go to school and it's about all the kids and their reactions, but also I don't know where it's quite good.

We haven't watched it yet. She was disappointed. We couldn't watch any tonight, but I told her to fuck off because I had to come down here. But the older sister is. Because the kids had all this attention and all this drama and all this trauma of these operations, she's been completely marginalized out of the family and, and ignored and now her friends, like, binned her off.

And I'm like, she's not gonna kill herself or anything, like, horrendous, is

Dan: I've seen this.

Sidey: absolutely

Dan: I've seen this film. It's lovely. There's none of that. And it's yeah, it's a really good one.

Sidey: so we've got about two thirds of the way through, so, yeah, probably finish it tomorrow. Nice. It's good.

Pete: So I did watch a film. And I can never remember. I've brilliant film. You guys reviewed it for the podcast. I can never remember the number of peaks, but I'm going to say 14

Dan: Yes. Yeah, 12 and 14. Nims die, yeah.

Pete: unbelievable, like just ridiculous. Like the levels trying to, I don't even think the film kind of like leaves you to, to try and deduce exactly how like elite he is as just a human being, as an athlete.

Sidey: Well, he does the first one and he has to go and rescue

Pete: the one he did, I mean, and the thing is, it's not, not just, not just that because you get, obviously people are doing these mountains, I want to say all the time.

I don't mean like, you know, 10 a penny, but there's a lot of people do it who are doing these mountains and stuff. And people have done things before, but the one where he wakes up, he's got a bit of a

Reegs: Yeah.

Pete: and then just goes. Oh, you know, and then meant to stop a couple of times, meant to have a couple of like kips on the way up there.

He was like, Oh, I've got a hangover. Fuck it. Let's just do it in a one off. I just go straight up there. I'm like, how is this guy? He is just built different. He is what the term built different is meant for. The thing he was doing on the, like the bike, the trial bike with the 30 percent oxygen. Fucking ridiculous.

Sidey: Aren't you pen pals with one of the guys, Dan, or something?

Dan: No, but I, I'm, I'm, yeah, well, when we were, when I was going over there, obviously it's a small community even in a big country like Nepal, everybody's heard of Nim's Dai, you know, he, he's the absolute man.

And there's a few other, the David Sherpa, he's another guy who's like always there and

Sidey: he is a Sherpa.

Pete: is What a stroke of

Dan: know, yeah He's another one that kind of just nails it. I think the record was like two mountains over 14, you know highest peak. Sorry

Was the record, you know, people didn't do that. Doing one a year is incredible. Six months of planning,

Sidey: the most drama was about whether you'd get the visa in time. The Pakistan one,

Dan: His drama was the visa in time. Yeah,

Pete: Well he did it, it was six months, it

Dan: Yeah, it would have been. Yeah, quicker, if not

Reegs: Well, he did something

Pete: It was a Tibet

Reegs: of them in the first like four days or something.

It was something ridiculous.

Pete: it ain't no thang. Although there was, it was a little bit kind of because obviously there's such a high level of prestige associated with Everest, especially. But then that's a picture he took where he looks back and there's just a queue of 300 people waiting to

Sidey: so surprising.

Pete: a little bit like, oh, it's almost devaluing it. I know it's still a ridiculous, all of those people are like, that's a ridiculous achievement, but.

Reegs: I know the Disneyfication of

Sidey: of sorts. Is this, is this segwaying into your, you're gonna try something next year?

Pete: I know the Disneyfication I have, I haven't officially booked up to it, but I have spoken about it to the point that I've convinced myself that I am going to climb Mount Kilimanjaro next year.

Reegs: You're saying that live on air now?

Pete: know, yeah. It's going out there.

Dan: Wow. I tell you what,

Sidey: Are we live? Yeah.

Dan: that's That's a big

Reegs: So you've said that now,

Dan: yeah, it's a

Reegs: I can edit that out

Pete: guys do, do this

Sidey: These

Dan: These guys do, do this as well. They've got Nims Dye and it's Mingma David Sherpa is the other guy that's ascended all, you know, youngest ever to do

Sidey: a Sherpa at the end of the day, didn't

Dan: Yeah, yeah.

Sidey: Like David Counten and yeah.

Dan: And they, they go out there to Africa as well. Kilimanjaro because it's the highest

Pete: of, I'm built different like

Dan: So you may see these elite athletes out there.

Pete: Probably.

Dan: Well, wow.

Sidey: What about you, Riggs?

Reegs: eating? Not a lot of telly, but I have been watching the fish that we've got. So we've

Sidey: Has there been some fish trauma?

Reegs: you had any fish tetras. They're sacrificial fish, they're called.

Right. When you set up a tank. And you go and buy five of them, and three of them are gone after two

Sidey: the neon ones? Neon tetras, okay.

Dan: The neon Tetras, okay. They've

Reegs: got still, yeah.

Pete: So they're meant to just die really

Reegs: Well, they're, I, no, I don't think they're meant to, but it, they did tell, she did say to us they're probably going to die

Dan: This is the pH levels and things

Reegs: we got two that are going, I've been watching them cling on for dear life, they're okay.

No, they're all right now. These two, they're heartier ones. So hopefully we've got the balance going. These two seem happier now. They're not in distress. You could see them. They were, you know, but as we were getting things, right. no, lots of tears. Yeah, So

Pete: No, lots of so that your, so that your daughter could experience like the, the circle of life or

Reegs: Well, no, that's

Sidey: you put Elton on?

Reegs: I guess that's just part of the lesson as well, isn't it? No, we wanted, she wanted, she wanted something like

Pete: worse, Dan pissed himself this week. Anyway,

Sidey: Anyway,

Dan: No comment.

Sidey: No comment. Oh, we've all been there. Haven't we?

Dan: Haven't we? All in silent.

Sidey: Oh, fucking every

Reegs: every week

Sidey: think we actually had any more.

Reegs: there was someone discord cause that's now our new thing, isn't it? Everybody, you should discord us like go on Andy. You're normal as well. You come on discord and there must be other

Pete: how, how would, right. Just, just for the, for the Discord layman amongst us, which includes me and I think you as well, Dan, how would your average punter of all the millions of people that are listening right now, surely you know, 10 loads of them are gonna want to, like

Sidey: If

Reegs: you've got a phone, you can get the Discord app and you can create an account and you'll be able to find us

Pete: And then you just search Bad Dads

Reegs: find it pretty, yeah.

Dan: what's going on there?

Sidey: they're called servers. And I'm doing the inverted commas thing on my hands. And all it means is we, It's just our server. And there are various channels really just, there's one called general and that's where we hang out. And then people talk and you know, it's just like a chat

Dan: thing is server,

Reegs: Other people are chatting there as

Sidey: But we've got all kinds of functionality on there. It's really actually very cool.

Dan: sorry, is server just another name for like account or room or something?

Sidey: yeah, room, you call it that. Tommy Wiseau style.

Reegs: But yeah, we're just on there. Once you're in it, you can

Pete: you can never leave.

Reegs: And we got...

Sidey: We effectively don't use Twitter anymore. I put the stuff up there, but we don't chat on there. This is far more interactive and we're more responsive on there. So that's where you need to be.

Reegs: Two other people the other day, one was in the other person's hometown and wanted to, you know, recommendations on gigs and stuff. So that's gig

Sidey: that's people coming together.

Reegs: the sort of thing that you could yeah, get involved in.

Sidey: It's rad. Right, shall we just pig it up?

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: I

Sidey: Top five pigs. Bovine? Is that cows? It's porcine. Porcine. Yeah.

Pete: yeah. Yeah,

Reegs: It's

Sidey: Star sign.

Dan: Porculus, yeah. Decorated with pigs here

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: It's more effort than you normally

Dan: Yeah, I had a lot of pictures of pigs,

Sidey: Is that the underhog up there you've got there?

Dan: That is one of the pygmy hogs,

Sidey: So, I don't know if you've listened to Pete to last week's episodes but Dan was in the top

Dan: I made top five. Yeah. Yeah

Pete: Oh, what was the top five last week?

Sidey: cunts.

Dan: cunts. Yeah, I was right

Pete: Obviously not all five.

Dan: recommend.

Sidey: Eco. It was Eco Warriors.

Reegs: Yeah.

Pete: Ah, well, because whilst we're on the subject and, and it's actually sport because I was going to raise Daryl's

Sidey: we're going to have two weeks of

Reegs: weeks in a row Dan's going to be nominated.

Pete: Two weeks running, but, but you, you, you.

Dan: up the

Pete: so you covered it, you went into the film and the purpose

Sidey: last week was more about Dan. Whereas this week it would be about the actual hog itself.

Pete: Well, I wrote 2017's, like correct me if any of this is wrong Dan, but 2017 production, Durrell's Underhogs was the name of the

Dan: That's right,

Pete: I remember I went to one of the

Sidey: Oh, Christmas Day I won.

Pete: at the

Dan: the Grand

Pete: Grand Hotel, yeah. Set in North East India.

Dan: Yeah. Is that right? That's right,

Pete: Conservation film about trying to save the world's smallest pig, the pig, me hog from extension.

Dan: And you can watch it on YouTube

Pete: Starring Daniel Craven, who we've got

Dan: we're not really starring, but you know,

Pete: absolutely starring you're the, you're the main guy.

Dan: put, you're put through

Pete: like the, the John Craven of, it John Craven? Have I got the right person

Sidey: The Better Craven. Yeah. Yeah,

Dan: Yeah, he was good. He did Countryfile.

Sidey: Cunt?

Dan: Yeah. Newsround. He was decent. But that's, well, thank you very much, yeah.

Pete: Yeah, I wanted to give you a nod because I hadn't listened to last week's pod. I didn't know that that had already been done

Reegs: is that the only pig, is that the only pig that you've handled? Or have you...

Dan: Yeah, my probably

Pete: Apart from the Pull of Pig Nights at Folly de Moor.

Dan: I'm gonna start with Peter Porker

Pete: Alright,

Sidey: Oh yeah, good shout.

Dan: with spider man into the spider verse

Sidey: Verse.

Dan: And this was this was quite a crazy film actually I Didn't see it coming You know I thought I wasn't sure what to expect with this and I avoided it for a long time this film because it just seemed You know too far like cartoony and film and Yeah Yeah, it was the way that they used time and multiverse to, to create just about any kind of Spider Man that you've ever heard of, including Peter Porker. And then they really brought them to life. They didn't just kind of leave them there. They brought the multiverses to life. They brought them into, like, one, so they all crossed over.

Reegs: quite a significant part in the plot, doesn't

Sidey: in the plot, well, they all do,

Reegs: pod,

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: yeah,

Dan: And that's right, he plays a big part in it and or an important part. And, yeah, it was the one that I would suggest to kick his off.

Pete: Is the second film as good?

Sidey: especially, well, I, I,

Pete: it across the spider,

Reegs: Something like that, yeah.

Sidey: I haven't seen it yet but it was very well received. So, I'm sure it will be good, I'll bring some Simpsons content. Your way. There's a particular moment with Mr. Burns and Smithers. It's just when pigs fly.

Reegs: Elisa, the vegetarian.

Sidey: it flies across. They're looking out the window of his office at the power plant and it just fucking hurls across the sky.

Reegs: She's like at the barbecue, isn't she? She's trying to rescue the Yeah. Yeah. Pig goes

Sidey: There's the spider pig one from the Simpsons movie, which I don't think is particularly

Dan: There's the spider pig one is particularly good. Yeah, I did have that. And then

Sidey: it did have that and then my favorite one is when Homer goes to college and they have the the rival college has a pig as their mascot and they kidnap it and get it drunk.

I think and the dean of the college hears a noise and he's like hang on a minute. That sounds like a pig fainting and the pig has literally fainted. I think his name is.

Reegs: Oh, yeah, nice

Sidey: So triple

Reegs: which film is that actually that's national lampoons,

Sidey: No, no, that's Simpsons When Homer Goes to College.

Reegs: Oh, right,

Sidey: yeah. That sounds like a pig fainting. Yeah, yeah. So a trifecta of Simpsons pig content.

Reegs: Nice well, I was gonna go with It she's a diva miss piggy she's one of the first pigs I really thought of as being involved in the entertainment

Sidey: industry. Any Muppet film has got kind of contained

Dan: the entertainment

Sidey: guess, haven't we?

But yeah, she's

Dan: industry. Well, I guess, haven't we? But yeah,

Reegs: she's always like sexually assaulting a frog. Really? So I do. They, what and what are they, frogs or pigs? Well,

Pete: pigs? Well,

Sidey: Like, weirdness, they've

Pete: I think, is it like that, you get this sometimes when those sorts of things happen and it'll be like, like four kids and two of them will be frogs and two of them will be pigs, but that wouldn't happen, they'd be horrible mutated like

Dan: like is this a, a pigment of your imagination?

Reegs: of your imagination? Oh my god. Their relationship is pretty volatile.

Pete: She's quite violent, like, there's a lot of like domestic abuse going on.

Sidey: Yeah, yeah, she wears

Pete: Maybe, maybe,

Sidey: I found it alluring. She's got

Pete: yeah, yeah, she wears like suspenders and stuff,

Reegs: yeah. she does, she does, yeah.

Pete: is I found alluring.

Reegs: got the eyelashes as well. But I, yeah, I think maybe she's gonna struggle to find her place in the modern world, Miss Piggy. She is a bit violent and a bit me too y and

Sidey: in the modern world, Miss Peters. And a bit me too. It's one of those attitudes that are acceptable at the time.

Pete: think it's karate she uses because she goes, Hi yah! When she like hits, when she hits like Kermit.

Dan: You've got to

Reegs: be interesting to see how they reinvent her.

Pete: Yeah, and

Dan: be a, a twist in the tail

Sidey: probably. What you

Pete: know is that Kermit and Miss Piggy broke up in 1990.

Reegs: What and they canonically are back together or not? Then

Pete: are back together, but they broke up again in 2015.

Sidey: What was it, an affair? yeah. He fucked Gonzo?

Pete: yeah, yeah, yeah, she fuckin Rolfed from the, from the band.

Reegs: Who do you think would stray in that relationship? It would be God.

Pete: Piggy, definitely, she's a whore.

Sidey: from there. It was a straight, a, you know, he was as straight as a die. He's a good guy.

Pete: a good guy. I'm glad you brought up the Muppets, because I also have another Muppets entry, which I thought, I fucking loved it in the Muppets show, which was PIGS IN SPACE!

It

Sidey: It was

Reegs: Yes! Yeah!

Pete: was amazing! And Miss Piggy was one of the, like the... Crew in

Reegs: What was so good about it though? Just thinking back.

Pete: don't know that bit that I just did like pigs in space. It was like they called it. Ah, it was really like really self deprecating. Like every week they'd like just highlight how completely ridiculous it was that it was like these pigs doing something futile in space, but it was pretty entertaining.

Reegs: pigs in space. That's good.

Pete: If I were to say, if I was to say the line, this doesn't actually feature a pig itself, but if I was to say the line, Behold, the Ziggy Pig, the single greatest ice cream spectacle known to man. Who could tell me what film that's from?

Reegs: ice cream spectacle

Sidey: Everyone here. yeah,

Reegs: a man, who could

Pete: yes indeed. Yeah, so this is Napoleon when he's been like left, but he's being babysat by like the other kids in like a mall or whatever.

And they, they take him for. For dinner and obviously he's, so he's French so he's a miserable fuck anyway, But then they bring out the Ziggy Pig, which is a massive like ice cream sundae.

Sidey: take that down On my on my own. No

Pete: It looks

Sidey: No bother.

Pete: It would cost about like 400 quid nowadays though. Back then.

Sidey: Yeah, but it's one of those eating challenges if you do it, you get it for

Pete: Oh it does, yeah he gets a Ziggy Pig like badge doesn't he?

Because they

Sidey: BEHOLD THE PIG!

Pete: There you go, the older pig. Yeah but at the end he's like fighting with his spoon like

Sidey: that's right, yeah.

Pete: off and so on but,

Reegs: Good one, good one.

Pete: yeah.

Dan: one, Well, I've got one that we've reviewed on the pod. Okja.

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: Big Pig it was the, the film of a, a young girl and her love for her massive pig. It was the kind of farmyard pet and beyond that you had this kind of ulterior motive of food and, and and the amount of, you know, Meat that they would need to, to produce in order to feed everyone.

And they had these super pigs that were, yeah, this GM super pigs. And Jake Gyllenhaal was in it as a, one of the kind of trainers

Sidey: he was a kind of really o t t character. Yeah.

Reegs: He was ridiculous. Yeah.

Dan: it was kind of an animal capture or something. It was it was a weird old film. It was quite quite sad as well. You had this,

Sidey: was it Boone Boone during?

Yeah.

Dan: it was. And I think we all liked it for the part, didn't we?

We'd have to listen back if you want to

Sidey: I don't wanna do that, but someone else can. Let's keep it animated with Porco Rosso. Yeah, I've

Dan: I've got this one, yeah. It's

Sidey: a Studio Ghibli. I don't know if it's a definite, oh, it is a Miyazaki one.

Yeah, it

Dan: it's a fighter

Sidey: He's a World War, he's a World War One ex fighter pilot who is called Marco Pago and he is transmogrified into an anthropomorphic pig who's named Porco Rosso. That means... Red pig in Italian. And he's on a mission to get himself

Dan: Uncured.

Sidey: Uncured. Yeah. All of those films if fucking Can.

Great.

Reegs: films

Dan: this

Reegs: are fucking great. Princess Mononoke, was boar god in. So, boar? Can you have a

Pete: I

Reegs: yeah,

Dan: Absolutely.

Reegs: I think

Sidey: I think anything Pauline. And he's got another film. He's, he is gonna be categorically his last one out very soon, I think. Yeah. Which is gonna be amazing.

I'm a big fan. And but there was a, so we had the tortoise takeover in Jersey, right? All these tortoises dotted around the island with various different designs. And there was the Miyazaki one. It had Totoro on the leg. And when they were auctioned off, it went for like fucking six grand. Some of them, you know, the hair went for a hundred grand.

And I went and said, it's like, man, if I had six grand lying around, I would, I would, I would have bought that. But I don't. No. So there you go.

Reegs: Being eaten by pigs is a recurring idea across movies, and Hannibal is if you ever saw that one,

Sidey: Mason Verger.

Dan: Mason Burgess. Snatch

Reegs: in Snatch Bricktop,

Pete: referenced by Bricktop,

Reegs: yeah, he talks about it as well, yeah, it's...

Dan: Burgess.

Sidey: I heard, I heard Mason. Yeah. He's a Hannibal survivor, who's obsessed.

Reegs: It's his idea of revenge and he is unceremoniously eaten by those very pigs. And also in Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome as well. Same thing happens again. As in the Saw movies. I'm probably thinking you guys are not big fans of this franchise.

Dan: I've watched, I've watched one.

I've watched one,

Reegs: first one's pretty good as a decent movie in its own right and then the rest is more the torture y porn stuff that you know, is kind of horrible. It's got a recurring motif around pigs and comparing people to pigs and in Saw III, one person is slowly drowned in in a sort of vat of decomposing pig carcasses.

Which is nice, which also brings me onto pepper Pig. 'cause I wish she was dead.

Dan: Well, you're hogging the lot here. Go on

Reegs: Well, I figured everybody would chime in on pepper.

Pete: What I did find is that in my research you, you couldn't go, you just, it was saturated

Dan: You put pig in the internet. Yeah, it

Pete: tv, pig film or whatever, you just like pepper pig. Absolutely everywhere. Yeah. It was like tough to avoid.

Reegs: I went, she's got a movie as well, which I actually went to the cinema to see my first cinema experience or something. Oh my god, weren't you there as well?

Sidey: That was

Reegs: Patrol.

Paw Patrol. God, that was soul crushing as well,

Sidey: crushing

Pete: Well,

Sidey: just jumped

Dan: Horpatrol,

Reegs: Yeah, because that was a book, yeah.

Dan: think that's a book, yeah. I bet it was a film, a cartoon, an adaption too,

Reegs: I did a movie of it

Dan: up, a live action one. Yeah, maybe, or a CGI one or something, was it?

Reegs: No, live action, the type, baby type thing, I think. With

Dan: a yeah. Well, I didn't see that, but I did see the animated one as a kid growing up and it's a lovely story. Over to you, Pete. Go on. You're looking at me like you've got a good one. So,

Pete: I haven't,

Dan: I'm all ears.

Pete: I haven't. But cast your mind back, I think that most of us here are fans of Black Mirror.

Reegs: And

Pete: cast your mind back to Season 1, Episode 1, the very first well, episode of Black Mirror, which in it, there's a, well, the, the, the plot is that I think there's like a crown princess has been kidnapped and there's

Dan: I'm hoping this is coming around to a pig at some point

Reegs: will. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Pete: definitely, oh, do you, have you, do you not know this, Dan? Okay. Yeah.

Reegs: This is amazing.

Pete: Yeah. So, crown princess has

Dan: oh fuck yes, I know

Pete: Yeah, there we go.

Dan: Okay. Penny just

Pete: Yeah. So yeah, there's a ransom letter and, and basically all the, the, the kidnapper wants is for the prime minister to fuck a pig on live TV in order to release the crown princess.

And so the, the episode kind of like builds up to. And they're all saying like, of course you're not going to have to do this, we can, we can like CGI it, they find some like porn star who's like willing to actually fuck a pig and they're going to CGI his head onto it or whatever, but I think because of the social media element, I think it's like leaked on social media that this guy is getting involved and so then The kidnapper sends a finger in the post, like, pretending it's the, the crown princesses or whatever.

And ultimately, all his, like, lawyers and aides and everything are like, Look, you're just gonna have to go through with this. And he does in fact fuck the pig

Reegs: live on television

Pete: front of

Sidey: I guess, for

Reegs: The amazing thing is, are imitating life with

Sidey: David

Reegs: David Cameron.

Pete: because didn't he stick his dick in a pig's head

Reegs: In a pig's

Sidey: point? Some initiation thing at some fucking eating,

Pete: raw place or whatever, yeah.

I mean the, the, the sickener for the guy, I can't remember the, the actor's name, he's, he's in the Bond films. He's in, a little bit like Dave Sherpa. Look, he's in the Bond films as something or other and I think his dad was an actor as well. Anyway, I can't remember his name. But the, the Crown Princess was actually released like 30 minutes before they had to air the, the what's it called?

And then the person, like the kidnapper, it was just, it was some like fucked up artist or whatever. He cut his own finger off and sent it in the post. And then he killed himself before it even aired as well. So it was all a little bit kind of like...

Sidey: The usual kind of black mirror

Pete: Exactly, yeah, but it kind of like set the tone for what everything was going to be there after.

Reegs: Terrifying.

Pete: That

Dan: Yeah. Well. I'll just mention Piglet in Winnie the Pooh. Because you can't do this without

Reegs: He was quite an anxious pig.

Sidey: Yeah,

Pete: was yeah.

Dan: he was very unsure of himself and,

Reegs: it's not, I find their portrayal, well, their portrayal is usually unflattering, isn't

Dan: it?

Yeah. Pig on someone their own size.

Reegs: Mmm.

Sidey: Ham, from Toy Story, quite often, quite often

Dan: John Ham,

Reegs: I wondered about whether you could have John Ham, yeah.

Sidey: whether you can and I think it's,

Pete: John Sausage,

Sidey: it's either Toy Story 2 or 3, where it's evil Dr. Porkchop, where the kid is pretend, like, doing that make believe thing and he's the big super villain.

Reegs: he's the big Paolo

Sidey: And he's voiced by, it's John Ratzenberger, isn't it? Who was... I think, I don't know if it's still true, but at one point was the only voice actor who was in every single Pixar, who did a voice in every single Pixar movie. Don't know if that's still the case.

Pete: That would be

Sidey: That was up until a certain point it was true. If he's still alive he could

Dan: Up until the third film. Yeah.

Sidey: yeah.

Dan: Porky's? Yeah. Was that in your

Reegs: No, but, Yeah.

Sidey: That was great. His teenage kid voice now. Titillation. Absolutely, Yeah.

Pete: Yeah. You got that. Like the, obviously the glory hole scene is amazing in the showers.

Reegs: I've got a few...

Dan: I've got a few

Reegs: sort of, you know I'm something of an edgelord.

I've got a few edge cases of pigs.

Sidey: Okay. Edge

Reegs: Pig. They're called Ians. They're

Sidey: Oh, yeah, Star Wars. Yeah,

Reegs: Wars guys.

Sidey: gods, the Gamorian gods.

Reegs: a bit piggy. They're

Pete: of Boba

Reegs: yeah.

Pete: Fett as well,

Reegs: when, and featuring fairly prominently in the book of Bob Affair as well,

Sidey: Yeah, yeah,

Reegs: watch that as well.

There's south Park has man bear pig. He's sort of half man, half bear, half.

Sidey: That's, that's one and a half.

Reegs: Yeah. Batman, Bear, Pig. And, well, we did Captain Planet and the Planeteers, and the bad guy in that was called Hoggish

Pete: yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: yeah, very

Reegs: him with, and he looked kind of porcine. He

Sidey: He did, yeah.

Pete: he did

Reegs: and he was a

Dan: Gets him in. Yeah. That's enough.

Reegs: be.

And then, the farting warthog from, it's a warthog, is that a pig?

Pete: warthog. is a pig,

Reegs: guy. All right. Okay. So the Fighting Warthog then

Dan: In, in The Jungle Book The newest one that, that came out, It wasn't a particularly massive hit, But they had great CGI and everything.

And there was a pygmy hog in that. Jon Favonreau played him.

Sidey: Favonrou

Dan: Really? Jon Favonreau? Yeah, That's him. Well, I, I won't bore you Anymore.

Pete: a is

Sidey: played him. Well, I won't bore you anymore. None of you have seen it for some reason we didn't watch it for this

Reegs: I know.

Sidey: So we'll say no more. We'll say no more.

Pete: Oh, okay. I've just got a couple more Only happened upon it today, but in Squid Game, the The receptacle that receives all the money is a big Perspex pig.

Sidey: Oh, yeah

Pete: Just like hanging above them with all the, with all the money that's coming and that they can, they can

Reegs: Yeah, because I was thinking that was more squiddy than

Pete: It was way more squiddy, but there was a pig in it. I, I, Pumba from the Lion King. And I only wanted to mention it just because if you cast your mind back to the Lion Guard that we reviewed and the song The Earworm.

There's a lot of dancing going on. Dan's not, but the other two are and that was, and just purely for your and mine enjoyment. Side. I love her more than any pig. And that's saying something,

Sidey: Which is... Warren Clark.

Pete: of Warren Clark. Yeah. Yeah. Which is which is class. And Oh, and finally, anyone heard the song psycho pig?

It's really fucking irritating. My kids want to put it on all the time. It's I'll share it with you. It's a, like a YouTube hit or whatever. I got a story about a psycho Yeah, it's

Dan: yeah. I, like a

Pete: but it's annoying. Right, yeah. The

Sidey: Secret Life of Pigs has a pig with loads of tattoos on it.

Reegs: yeah. nice.

Dan: You had all those Looney Tunes cartoons as well. Remember those with the three little

Sidey: Porky Pig, that's all

Reegs: thing was he had a stutter and they mocked him for it, really. Like the

Sidey: Rightly so, the

Pete: Like the dudder man in new Jack City.

Reegs: Oh he called me Chief Piggum. As well. There's that

Sidey: Right, shall we, shall we wheel it down? Oh we didn't even, we never actually got around to asking anyone online, so we'll have to do that for next week. But let's put our pig selections in, Riggs.

Reegs: I'm going to put Babe in

Dan: I'm going Peter Porker

Pete: Can, can I put Craven in again? Is that, no, it's not. Two weeks running. It was a bad dad's first last week, so I'm not going to, I'm gonna put Ziggy pig in then.

Sidey: Straight shout. I will put pepper pig. Sorry. It's sentimental 'cause my son and I used to watch it together. Firstly, I want so there you go. There we go. And we'll put it on Discord. That's where you can put your submissions in for this week's top five.

Dan: Snort and squeal with delight.

Sidey: So, Andy Connolly, Andy Jameson, Joe Bevis, people like you need to get on Discord. That's where it's all happening.

Pete: Do it now.

Dan: Wow

cheese.

Sidey: and Malwarem this week? Yeah. Back on our bullshit?

Dan: It's an interesting pairing. We've got chocolate and wine.

Sidey: Yeah, we've got it all going on. We've got Gorgonzola

Pete: See. is.

Reegs: the soft 'cause that,

Pete: What's the Briatzavirin, which we had from the last subscription that we didn't get stuck into because it's in its own little, like, comes in its own case but it's really good.

And I think, I think you're right, Riggs, it's been out of the fridge for just the sort of right amount of time. Give it another hour and it'll start creeping across the room towards us, but at this moment, so really creamy. It's a, it's a

Sidey: it's a gateway cheese.

It's definitely a gateway cheese.

Pete: absolutely. Yeah.

Dan: Well, you said Gorgonzola, the blue.

Sidey: Yeah. John Franco Zola. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah, that was just about my cheese limit, where I'm comfortable and enjoyed it and wanted more. It's,

Sidey: yeah, that it's punchy, but it's not

Dan: Well, the battery acid we had last

Sidey: too much.

Dan: Was way too much. Pete, I think you, you battled on with that,

Pete: I, I finished. Yeah. I, I would, I would be lying if I said I enjoyed every last moment of it, and it's the repeating thing more than anything.

The f the initial sort of taste is, is like a nice strong blue cheese and then it just keeps

Sidey: and going every, every Burt

Pete: instant heartburn. Yeah.

Sidey: And it's not great.

Pete: No, but I stuck it in a couple of omelets and it, and it elevated those, but then I twitted the omelets in sriracha, so I couldn't taste anything. Anyway,

Dan: couldn't taste anything anyway. Well, I always like to see the, the toast pairing. We got toast! I don't know why! But that's where you bought it isn't it?

Pete: You've got toast. I don't

Sidey: Yeah, we do have toast. We have toast. It's toast I think it's got some kind of nuts and some cranberry infusement and it pairs, it literally says on the box to pair it with Gorgonzola, so that's what we've done. It fucking works. You

Dan: We're nothing if not like, sticklers for instruction.

Sidey: get You bought this

Pete: hexagonal charcoal biscuits for for a little while now. Well, let's at least give them a try. No. Okay.

Sidey: And then we've obviously got Mawen because that is an absolute fixture and that links very

Dan: up on Mo that's worth

Sidey: and that looks very nicely. It literally does into the wonderful story of Henry Sugar Yeah, which is what we

Dan: Yeah. it was really on theme as we discussed on

Sidey: I mean endless pig content in this

Dan: Yeah, but I was really excited when I saw the trailer for this because it's a story that I've got in my In my book of Roald Dahl stories, and

Sidey: pool! All your

Dan: Well,

Pete: your books are the other side of the room, Dan! Yeah,

Reegs: books are on the other side of

Sidey: No, I can see it, it's there, it's on top of the bar.

Dan: Thank you. I rest my case.

And that, that leads perfectly into the start of this week's.

Pete: Set the

Reegs: just say it's a Wes Anderson film

Sidey: well, we'll start with it's a Wes Anderson film and everyone will instantly know Yeah. Exactly what, in

Reegs: It is a Wes Anderson film, so it's all of that affectation and fussy design and all that stuff straight away, and the movie opens with a sort of meta moment, perhaps acknowledging the sort of secondhand nature of the tale that we're going to be told because we go to Roald Dahl's writing hut.

And we see just his desk and stuff, everything there, and he's talking about he's written everything he's ever written for 30 years in this writing, he's got everything he needs around him, his cigarettes, his coffee, his chocolates,

Pete: ah, so, I didn't even appreciate, so Ralph, was Ralph Vines? Yeah, it was Roald

Sidey: Yeah,

Pete: Got it.

Reegs: And you see his desk as well.

Other little, cause it's this obviously, cause it's Wes Anderson. Every frame is like something worth looking at. And there's a little toy spitfire. There's a, a little Toby jug full of pencils, just something, something, something and credits in cursive come up on the screen. And he's talking like fiercely deadpan with little inflection as he tells us this story of Henry sugar.

Sidey: Yeah. And that, we can get into it, but throughout, I mean it's only a short runtime, this is a short film, 37 minutes, I think every single line of dialogue is delivered straight to camera.

Reegs: Yeah, I think you're right.

Sidey: Yeah. Everyone's just telling you it, you know, and then people will interject with just one word and it's all like straight to the camera It's sort of a bit

Pete: and And, but it's it's all, It's all, done in that, you know, you say sort of like, you know, very little inflection, like monotone, almost like you remember, like at school where you'd get there'd be a book and like, it could be a book and everyone would have the same copy, everyone would have a copy, sorry, but like the teacher would like take

Reegs: turns.

Everyone would then go, like

Pete: And then the guy did this and he did that and he's like, and that was great.

He said, and you know, and the, the, the, like every line of dialogue is delivered by like that. The other thing is more noticeable with some of the actors over others.

Reegs: No, it's, it's definitely there is a

Dan: They're all going for it.

Reegs: for all of them and, and often we're told things are exciting, but we're shown that they're not, but and that sort of thing.

And there's a lot of breaking the fourth wall and all that sort of stuff. So it's all of Wes Anderson's box of tricks, you know, all at once because there's a cross crazy transitions between scenes and sets that shift around them that sometimes look real and other times look like a

Dan: Well, that's it. So, An actor will just stay still with the front of frame, but the background will entirely change and then he'll be from inside to outside or further down the lane was as in the case when they tell the stories in the barn and all of a sudden he's right at the end.

of the barn and there's a little gate and everything and you start to to learn that it's a story of a a rich man benedict

Sidey: Yeah, he's inherited wealth. Yeah. And he's never worked a day in his life. Yeah. He's a layabout.

Dan: a he's a layabout he's a gambler

Reegs: Good looking but not as handsome as he thinks he is. All the trappings of luxury, haircuts, clothes, cars, all those things.

And there's a great line about how men like Henry Sugar can be found everywhere, like seaweed.

Dan: That's right.

Yeah. He's around 41 or something. And he, he happens upon,

Reegs: well, he wants to do what anyone wants to do. He's got wealth,

Sidey: which is get more,

Reegs: acquire more.

Dan: Yes, yes. He

Reegs: And he's not into land or art or stocks or shares. He's kind of into gambling

Dan: and he's. Up and down with it as gamblers are and he happens upon a book and we go into the, the story of how he acquires the, the

Sidey: because it's a thin book sticking out between a row of like very uniform books Yes. Yeah, and it's a handwritten

Dan: of course that's a perfectly amazing kind of looking scene as all of them are. You could stop any point and make a poster of the film. And it's just perfect. And so he pulls out this book and it's, it's some, a story of of a man who had gained the the ability

Reegs: his eyes

Dan: to see with his eyes closed.

Yeah.

Reegs: And this is the book, the Man Who Sees Without His Eyes, by Dr. Zed Zed Chatterjee. And and then he settles down to Benedict Cumberbatch, this is settles down to read the book and we get the tale of the book read out this time by Dev Patel.

So we've got this sort of Russian doll like structure or inception styles nested story thing going on. So it's Dev Patel is Dr Zed Zed Chatterjee. He's introduced staring just uncomfortably long at the camera just until it's too much. And then he just starts again with this picking up the story in that exact deadpan.

So if you don't like that stuff, this movie is like, even in 37 minutes, it's going to drive you completely bonkers. Cause it,

Sidey: yes, I can imagine people just being like infuriated after just a few minutes. It's going, what the fuck?

Reegs: it's a bit like being told off, like, cause it's just so like, yeah. So he's anyway. Dr. Chatterjee's the head surgeon and he's having some colleagues he's having some coffee with colleagues one of whom is,

Sidey: Richard

Reegs: Ayoade, when Ben Kingsley turns up and he says, Oh, I'm so sorry to have burst in like this.

He's walked, just literally walked through the door. Yeah. And he tells him he's a man who can see without his eyes, and he asks him to wrap his head 50 times, whichever way they look, and he'll

Dan: Oh, the, the procedure? Yeah, yeah,

Reegs: It's amazing. Yeah.

Sidey: shut. They think

Dan: the...

Dough?

Pete: look. And then there's, yeah, Doe,

Dan: And then

Pete: and then they just bring this like almost like helmet of bandages that opens up at the back and put it on,

Sidey: on.

Reegs: Yeah.

Pete: a really like clumsy, like

Dan: yeah a little slip for the nose. That's

Pete: With it in it, cause he specifically asked for his nose to be left uncovered so that he can breathe.

And then they're like, how's that? He's like, oh yeah, that's, that's fantastic. Like it's brilliant or

Dan: yeah, so his eyes have been super glued closed. He's got closed. He's got dough over the top I think there's plasticine of Paris and then bandages and then another kind of helmet of bandages

Reegs: Chatterjee says he looked like a man who'd suffered some terrible brain operation. Yeah.

Dan: were convinced And he went to the doctors because he wanted to be sure. He's performing that night and he wants to be sure that you know, he can't be questioned. So he goes to the, the, the doctors and lets them know this and they, they bandage him up and then he's out the door and he's, he's away off.

Pete: Yeah, it's literally as soon as they finish the procedure, he just like gets up and walks off, but they start following him because they want to assess

Dan: He's avoiding people in the hall, probably

Pete: and so on, but then like you kind of know it, it completely confirms that he can see without his eyes because he gets on a bike and just cycles

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Through a row of traffic, yeah.

Reegs: So, and he, Chatterjee thinks he's seen a miracle and is sort of obsessed by this.

So he, that night he goes to Khan's show and there's shooting and knife throwing, which we don't see. And even with an oil drum on his head, he threads a needle, which I can't do, even if I'm looking directly at it. And then afterwards Chatterjee sort of, well, he latches onto the thick black hairs that are in his ears as the source of his power, doesn't he?

And he tells Imran Khan, if you tell me how you do this amazing thing that you can see through objects I will tell your story verbatim and I will have it published in Medical Journeys and, you know, because this is an amazing

Dan: and that will be a great thing for you, which he agrees and gives him the story.

Reegs: and we start another story, exactly.

Pete: Yeah. This time narrated by Ben Kingsley.

Reegs: Yeah, he, he's ka he was Imran Kane, born in Kir

Pete: Dad ka Iran

Reegs: dad, sorry. Yes. Him. Dad born in Kmir, the son of a ticket inspector. And he saw a conjure when he was 13 and he was so like, blown away by it wasn't he? That he ran away to join the circus.

And all the time saving up money until he heard of a, a guru known as the great yogi who he, he heard could meditate. Levitate, sorry. He could meditate to the point that he could levitate.

Dan: And yeah, he became his apprentice and no, he, he'd been hiding, hadn't he? He'd been hiding and then was, a rock was thrown at his

Reegs: yeah, well, he seeks him out, doesn't he? He's not allowed to, he meets a disciple of his who won't tell him where he is, but he follows him through the jungle and finds the hut where the great yogi is and observes him doing the trick, which is a bit like the he gets a stall out. And then when he's finished meditating, he turns the stool around and the stool's like camouflaged to the backdrop.

So it looked a bit like Game of Shadows, the Sherlock Holmes, like camouflaged.

Dan: the urban camouflage.

Reegs: So suddenly he's levitating and that's when he sees him, he's hiding out the tree and he throws the

Dan: Yeah, but there's just those brilliant practical effects aren't they you know that you can just do that around simply it's it's like a Play or a pantomime or something the whole thing with the perfect set Just moving in behind them.

And yeah, well at this stage then he's Got you know the the ability to or Learned the secret from the guru as a as a prize for hurting him and as an apology he says look i'll tell you how you can do this and it will take you about 20 years might take some people two or three but mainly sort of like 20 years to To learn how to to do this and he shows him the technique and he tells him the technique and he sets to it

Reegs: yeah, And the technique is just to focus on one thing for three and a half minutes, isn't it? Just that one

Sidey: I don't think I could do that

Reegs: No.

Dan: No, It's really tough, huh?

Reegs: And so he, every night Khan sits down and visualizes the person he loved most in the world, which was his elder brother who died when he was 10.

10, I think of some blood disease or something like that. And so after five years of practice, we see he can concentrate for a minute and a half. And then he continues to work on it using a candle that he gets out and sets out this sort of 16 inches away from him. And he stares at the point where the wick meets the flame.

And that is while he's doing that is when he starts to realize that he can see a faint outline with his eyes closed. Right.

Pete: Yeah. Is that

Sidey: right? Mm hmm.

Reegs: And this is when he sees a deck of cards, and he starts putting maps up around his room and

Dan: he's testing himself, yeah, and he's picking it up. He's slowly getting this, but he's not happy with the speed he's doing it. So he continues for another sort of few months and then 10, you know, another few years. And I think it's the final, you know, He's down to about 8 seconds, he wants to get to 5, and

Reegs: Well that's in, that's in, that's in Henry's story because we're still on

Dan: Ah yeah, they cross like that,

Reegs: Yeah, they do, yeah. So anyway, yeah, he eventually, ten years later, he can read a book with his eyes closed and we're back in the room.

So he's told, you know, He's kind of miffed that everybody still thinks it's a trick, and this is really his downfall, Khan's downfall, because he starts to tell Chatterjee how it's done, and he sees through another part of his body. And that's why the next day, because Chatterjee is so excited and he can't believe it, he wants to share this news with the world, think of the scientific advances, people will be able to see again.

And unfortunately, when he goes to see Khan the next day, the show has been cancelled, and Khan has passed away. I think the hubris is that he... shared his story because we now cut back to Cumberbatch having read this story, thinks it's very interesting, having an interest in gambling.

Dan: he thinks he can use this to his advantage

Sidey: pretty handy application

Dan: and he sets to it and he's got a talent for it. It's not going to take him 20 years.

He practices and practices and practices. And eventually it kind of cuts it down, doesn't it? It goes after like two years, he was down to a minute and a half, and then he could concentrate on this this one thing. And then after. Like three years and four months, he was down to, you know, just a few seconds away.

Reegs: seconds per card is what he wanted to the casino,

Dan: He, he wanted, he wanted the speed. And he eventually gets there in, in sort of like five, six, seven years or something.

Reegs: The coat man was?

Dan: Jarvis Cocker. Yeah, as he goes into the first casino, I think it is. Who, who plays, yeah, a couple of cameos in this, I think.

Sidey: well, everyone does multiple parts, don't they? Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Dan: Sir Ben Kingsley is is the dealer, the croupier at one point.

But he, he starts winning. And he can't lose. I

Sidey: he does 30 large, doesn't he? In the first, the first night.

Reegs: and when people are really shocked, he realises he needs to be more discreet.

Sidey: Yeah, that's what, maybe I'll, maybe I'll lose a few on purpose.

Dan: lose a few. He's got a really sensible game about himself. I'll never take more than

Sidey: Well, he's gonna get banned from the casinos,

Dan: 000. He'll get banned from the casino. I'll go into different places, different areas, at different times, and he Works his way around the world. Well,

Pete: But, before,

Reegs: for all that,

Pete: he does that, 'cause he's, he's unfulfilled. He finds himself because you, you get that sort of like part of the, you know, Ralph finds kind of like narration at the beginning that's talking about.

You know, like all rich people, he wants to get richer and so on, but driven by this kind of like fear of, of having, of getting less and less and spending all the money

Sidey: But that's the gambling, that's, that's the buzz, isn't it? It's not the amount that they win,

Pete: But then he realizes that because it's coming so easily to him, or this, this win specifically has become so, it comes so easily to him and he just knows that this can now just carry on ad infinitum as long as he's, he's smart about it, it is unfulfilling to him.

So he goes out onto the balcony.

Reegs: Mm hmm.

Pete: And just thinks, you know, and then he just sees somebody, you don't see it, you just see him on the balcony and he just like chucks a note, they're 50 pound notes, aren't they? So he just chucks one off

Reegs: It's like the Manson

Pete: and then you get this, like, someone going like, what's this? And he's like, it's, it's a present, like, keep it, okay?

And then he throws another one. And then before you know it, he starts throwing loads of them and then does that, like scatters the whole lot. And then you hear like absolute bedlam down below where there's. A load of people obviously congregating here, like crashes and horns and everything. And then he gets a, gets a knock on the door and it's, it's, this is Ralph Fiennes now as a, as a policeman.

Sidey: This is the most animated bit of dialogue in the film. He kind of shouts at

Pete: Yeah. Yeah.

Dan: do it, you can't do it. You can't give away your money. Like, well, why not have it done anything illegal?

Reegs: Well, he's essentially incited a riot outside of his

Pete: But then what he does do is, is that like gives him some sort of like constructive

Sidey: Yeah, if you're gonna just give it

Pete: it on the street, why don't you know, like give it until like, you know, medical science or, or, you know, like, hospitals or you know, yeah, orphanages and so on.

So that's what. Come about what Henry Sugar latches on to that's what he's going

Sidey: immediately taken that idea.

Pete: Yeah, because I think if it panders to his ego with the like the adulation he's gonna receive for it It's also gives him a purpose other than just I'm gonna go and win money

Reegs: Well, he doesn't, he,

Sidey: it anonymously. Yeah.

Reegs: I think it's more because he gets to cross dress, because we see that in a bit.

Pete: yeah

Sidey: does, he does it, he does a load of disguises, because he, he's got his accountant, Dev Patel reappears as his accountant.

Reegs: John Winston. He was his father's accountant, and his father was his father's father's accountant. And

Sidey: And he's like, right, well I'll need to move to Lausanne, I'll need to, I'll need to buy a house, I'll need to move my family, I'll need to take the kids out of school.

He's like, literally runs through, like, his whole, like, life changing arrangement in about five seconds. And he's going to, he's going to do the whole, money laundering. Well, certainly banking side of it and

Dan: well He's gonna do the distribution to the

Sidey: doing a little like a multiple wardrobe change with all those different disguises and then he does, he does go and drag when he puts his covers, his mustache, doesn't he?

With his hand. He's gonna, what's he do? A doctor or a pilot or something? A nurse. Of all the sort of different things, anyway.

Dan: Yeah, So the

Sidey: he works out how much he could win every night, what that would mean per year, what he can do with all that money. Yeah,

Reegs: And before long, he's made 640 million dollars,

Sidey: By the time he's died, yeah,

Reegs: orphanages. And yeah, the story kind of ends with his death at 63 from a pulmonary embolism that he

Pete: Well, it, it, it does and it doesn't in that, cause he's saying, Oh, if this was a fictitious.

Reegs: that's the first time. We sort of skipped it when we went through this time. Yeah, he does earlier. He says in the story just before at the crucial point where he decides to go for to put it into charitable donations.

We have the fake out where they say if this was a true story

Pete: this was this is after he's Decided to do that. He does that

Reegs: It's not

Pete: okay

Dan: but as it kind of closes out the the theme is is interesting because He he didn't actually ever After acquiring this skill, he used it for his own gain or anything. He used it for these other kind of reasons and they, they were You know, kind of talking about, well, you practice something that much, you're meditating that much, you're clearing your mind and thinking about somebody that you love for, for that period of time to get

Reegs: yeah, for, for sugar's case, it was himself when he goes to

Dan: case of the spiritual enlightenment, right? So it occurs in a very short time frame for

Reegs: more a case of the spiritual enlightenment, right? So it occurs in a very short timeframe for him. We're already told earlier in the story that that's possible for one in a billion and Henry sugar is that one in a billion.

Yeah. But for everybody else, if you do this, it might take you 30 years, but you can achieve the same level of enlightenment So that's, you know, that's kind of what the story's about. And

Sidey: well John, John Winston reaches out. Yeah. To Roald Dahl, to tell the story. Yeah. But it still must be anonymous, and he says, Come on, you know, let me, let me say his name. He's like, no, maybe one day it'll be leaked, but we're, we're not gonna do that.

So you'll call him Henry Sugar. So it's a pseudonym.

Dan: Yeah. Well, it's A classic kind of dull story. Maybe you know, it's got those darker kind of twists and things of you know, blindness and not being able to see and strange kind of things, but not. Dark, dark it's quirky and Wes Anderson, obviously

Sidey: He's a master of the quirk. really liked it

Dan: I really liked it and there's more coming I

Sidey: I think another one just dropped on

Pete: saw another one on like that you could watch straight after on on Netflix.

Reegs: I watched it twice because it is only 37 minutes.

And the first time I watched it I was a bit like, oh God, it, you know, it was a bit grating the style and all that. It was quite overwhelming,

Dan: isn't it? I mean, it's, it's a hundred percent like full costume

Sidey: Well I guess.

Dan: like almost fabric wallpaper, you know, it's

Sidey: think of a director like Tarantino, you know, everyone has their stylistic hallmarks, but his is so overtly stylized. And that's going to be what people who don't like him are going to criticize him for, because they'll say it's style over substance, but,

Reegs: yeah. But role DOL is perfect for him though as well, because of That's what, so I did the, and it the second time, I'm much more gelled with it. Especially the story is actually a bit more you know, like all the dole's stuff, there's always

Dan: There's a meaning

Reegs: going on than, than in other

Sidey: I was glad it was short because it, yeah, it, it is. You're being talked out the whole way through.

You're being talked out and, and, and the quirkiness is a bit too much. There's other things where there's, I absolutely fucking adore that I love I don't love this, like those other things. Yeah. I think he's going disappearing a little bit off his end as,

Pete: got a, so I've got a, I've got a question like, because for me, I mean, I'm not as familiar with like the, I put it this way, if I, I knew it was a Wess Anderson thing, 'cause I think it was plastered all over before I pressed play.

But I wouldn't necessarily watch something. I think you guys would probably watch something and go, well this is Wes Anderson. Even if you didn't know, you'd know, if, you know what I mean? Where I, I, I wouldn't necessarily. And you know, I love, like, the, the, the, what you were saying before about, like, the sets and the moving, and you've seen it done in films before, whatever, but, like, the way it was done, it was so, so fucking clever and visually, like, it, it, it, like, captivating and everything.

Obviously, it's a ridiculously stellar cast, like, these are, like, real, like, powerhouse, like, certainly Cumberbatch but they're supporting, you know, Ben Kingsley as well, but, like, You know, like, with, with Dev Patel and Richard Ayoade, who are like, interesting actors and, and characters, like, interesting characters and so on.

Really like, so, so, liked absolutely everything about it, apart from the, the, the stylistic choice of the monotone delivery. Please explain to me why, like, why that is, is, because that, to me, is... Like, seems pretentious. It just seems like, What we're gonna do, we're gonna do this and that's gonna look really fucking cool and it's a cool story and we're gonna get great actors and everything, but we're gonna make them talk completely monotone and deadpan

Sidey: It's like they're...

Pete: like this and everything.

And, and for me, that, that, I wouldn't say spoilt it, but it definitely, like, diminished my enjoyment of it.

Sidey: like they're just reading out the text

Pete: Yeah.

Sidey: with some nice pictures.

what

Pete: that do? Like, stylistically,

Reegs: Well, sometimes it's funny. Why does that

Pete: it better than them actually acting out the, the scenes and the parts and

Dan: theory is that... It's of a period of time when Dole's writing from when kids did get talked to that way. And it was a very matter of fact stories, you know, you were told. So, and I think that he's kind of tried to remain true to those stories are like that, you know, they're very at you. And, and to kids, they're almost talking to them on an.

Adult level, but you don't talk to kids in an adult level, but you you can sometimes monotone it down So it's very clear and I don't know whether that's where

Reegs: I mean, in his other movies, he does it, like, when you have something weird, but when you have something normal said, but in an unusual inflection, or the other way around, or that sort of thing, it can be, you know, to convey absurdity, and all sorts of stuff. Yeah, I agree in this, it is quite

Pete: There was another film that we watched, and I dunno if it's Wes Edon or not, where it was similar almost all the way through the film. The one with like the horrible pedo guy that was like Shack and his kids' friends and stuff like that.

Dan: Oh, that

Pete: a lot

Sidey: no, that was Todd

Pete: right, but there was, there was quite a lot of that in that as well.

You know, almost like, I dunno if that was like desensitize you from like the horrific kind of subject matter or whatever. But like I say like as, as a, you know, as a fucking complete layman, Watching this, there was so much to, to enjoy in it, but really, as I say, like, diminished enjoyment because of this, like,

Dan: delivery,

Pete: yeah, like, delivery, which, for the life of me, I couldn't work out why that was the case, it, I, I don't know who would be watching it going like, oh, do you know what, that, or someone had watched it, or, or thought about it, and gone, do you know what would make this so much better?

As if they all delivered it completely monotone and deadpan.

Sidey: Like if I would say you could draw a graph of his. stylistic trajectory of his films. So, if you start with I think it's called Bottle Rocket, the first film.

Could really kind of be directed by anyone. And then you go up through like it's quirky but it's still like yeah fairly like standardized kind of thing then you get Steve Zizou, where you get to start getting the puppets coming into it and all that sort of, and then, and it, and it just gets more

Reegs: that was amazing, the sets in

Sidey: Yeah, same, like, the way the sets are put in that, and then it just, like, the trajectory is just like, it's exponentially more Wes Anderson the

Reegs: But we don't have, like, many auteurs with such a distinct, like, style and stuff. Maybe it's

Sidey: with such to criticize him for that. It is easy to say it's just style over substance because I, I appreciate a lot on this, but it's hard to love it.

Do you know what I mean? It's just like nothing really to...

Pete: just, feel like,

Reegs: the story was quite good

Pete: yeah, but this is the thing I feel like with, with that cast, with the, you know, with the, like the visual stuff was brilliant that with that cast and with that story, I'd have liked to have actually just seen the film or the, or the play, like if it was a play, whatever, like, but it like done

Sidey: No one talks to each other.

Reegs: Yeah. Well, but it's the way that the story is nested as well.

Right? Because the story is handed off between, so it's also a bit like the experience of having the story relayed to you as well, you

Dan: well, it's just a short story you know, literally that's what it is. And it's, it stayed that in it's,

Pete: In

Dan: you know, in all forms. And maybe that's just the way that he wants to deliver him. If there are going to be a series of, you know, three, four, five, maybe each one is a chapter or whatever it is, is a a six.

Reegs: He's doing two for Netflix, isn't he? He's done, and then there's two other ones that are part of the same collection, but not by him. I, I think

Dan: they Oh, that'd be interesting to see what other

Reegs: They, he signed a deal,

Dan: of his

Reegs: years ago, and now they've, like, got him by the fucking ankles and whatever, and they're like, right, you make us some shit.

Dan: You get his one of these. Yeah.

Sidey: I think, I think we all appreciated it.

Dan: Will you watch another one? Would you

Sidey: I mean, I've watched every single I haven't watched Asteroid City yet, but I have watched every single Wes Anderson thing.

Dan: That you are, you are gonna

Sidey: I'll watch them,

Dan: This other one. Will you watch? Yeah. The other one of these.

Reegs: I did enjoy this the second

Dan: time

Reegs: around, but it was I agree with many of Peter's, like, astonished bemusement

Pete: Well, it's it's, yeah, like I said, and again, I appreciate that, like, with other things that we reviewed, I might be the person who's like, I'm just missing the point, or I'm not getting it.

And that, which is why I, I, I asked the question, why is it like that? As opposed to me saying, Just, oh I didn't like that, it was shit, it, it,

Sidey: Like you did with Babe.

Pete: I would, yeah, that, that was shit, but, but just trying to, like, get, like, see if it could be explained to me why that choice, and I guess Wes Anderson's probably the only person you can ask, but other people would have got on board with the project, well, and I know you've given, like, what you took it, like, as part, as a possible explanation, and maybe didn't, didn't question it

Sidey: yourself. I mean, actors and other people, they fucking love him. Like they all go back. They're multiple, you know, migs, they're in so many of his movies, so they obviously love it, you know?

Yeah. But it must be a good guy to work, work

Pete: Yeah, yeah, like I said, like I said, it's my, it's my only kind of like negative takeaway

Sidey: is a curious thing in this film. Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: I wonder if SSS Sniperwolf is gonna off discussions.

Dan: is gonna kick off such Okay, we've got you in our sights

Sidey: We're back in our YouTube content. time we

Dan: back online

Sidey: time I think that was Ryan's world. Was it the

Dan: Ryan's world was

Reegs: this sort of, Charlie's Crafty Kitchen was also YouTube y, not YouTube, yeah, it was a sort of YouTube y type thing.

It's, it's new worlds though, really, for us, the content creators.

Dan: my daughter is into this

Reegs: Mm.

Dan: Yeah, okay.

Sidey: And so she. Put this forward for our

Dan: No, I chose the episode I just noticed she's been watching it and it's on her youtube account She's so i'm like

Sidey: S S S S...

Dan: Sniper wolf sniper wolf. Yeah

Reegs: So either named after the antagonist and boss of one of the Metal Gear Solid... Game franchises or a member of a major paramilitary organization under Adolf Hitler. It could be

Dan: either one may be true. We don't know. And the, she churns, she churns out YouTube videos reviewing. It's like a goggle box kind of thing. She reviews other things on the internet. Every,

Sidey: comments on

Reegs: I've got, I've got a top five, the names of their top five videos, just to kind of give you the,

Sidey: as in most hits. Most right. Okay.

Reegs: I tested viral tick tock life hacks to see if they worked. That's got several million hits. Funniest design fails ever. Water slides. You won't believe exist. Gender reveal fails and 24 hours in a hamster ball challenge.

You won't believe what's inside. Only one of which I made up. And,

Pete: hamster ball one

Reegs: That it's, her content seems to be like, I think it's called Reaction vids,

Sidey: right? Yeah.

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah. So she reads the kind of like meme she reads, the memes Yeah. And the comments that are on it and,

Sidey: So effectively piggybacking on the latest sort of viral meme and talking

Dan: But you, you look at, you look at, again, it's monetizing this kind of you know. Viewers and and these videos. She's churning out one a day probably or one a week.

Sidey: Well, it didn't take much fucking

Dan: I'm not sure No, really doesn't and it's obviously making a lot of money for us

Sidey: Oh, here goes like Ryan Sw again,

Pete: World all over again, like, oh, everything's fine if you make money

Dan: No, I'm not I'm not

Pete: Saville made a load of money, so you're sticking up for him now.

Dan: So it's, it is another one that's, yeah. It's really disappointing to say to, to see again, but it's there. Bang, you know, millions of views each week.

Reegs: can't go. I know it's millions of views and I know we are just a

Dan: more people are watching

Reegs: also doing like, you know, television.

But this, I know

Sidey: I know, but she's shouting

Reegs: so bad. It's not content. I like non content. It

Sidey: Yeah, yeah. There's

Reegs: to it. It's you just I dunno. Maybe I, I don't know. I like it. I dunno. I like that, but Right. She like she just reads, it's like somebody going on a Buzzfeed page, and it's some clickbait article, and she just reads it, and then, you know.

Dan: It's awful. Do you

Pete: know what my, my observation from it,

Reegs: is that?

Pete: do you know what my observation from it is, is that quite a lot of it was like, I wouldn't say overtly, but it was definitely like it was quite mean spirited in the what it was doing is that I and What what I don't want to do like we're all friends here I don't want to now get into the like the but like you're you you're quite cool with your daughter's watching this Because I'd like thought to myself.

I've got a daughter pretty similar age Like if she was like watching that I just be like going like Do you think, like, so basically what this girl is doing is just sending up and taking the piss out of other people

Sidey: in the first few minutes there's, there's two or three, like, haircuts where she just fucking, like, obliterates people having a shit haircut

Pete: Now don't, now

Reegs: But the video was the best internet insults or something. So that, that is...

Pete: maybe that was just that episode

Dan: yeah There's there's tons of other stuff that she does. They're not all kind

Sidey: but this is what we watched It's not I mean, I don't

Reegs: real content, man. It's not. I mean, I don't want to be too much of a fucking snobbish elite. She's got 16 million views, but this is not content. Or maybe I'm just a fucking old

Pete: No, no, it says more about the 16 million than it does about us. I think I don't like I'm if

Dan: It's absolute trash, but I think, you know, when you're a dad, you have to realize that they're not watching Care Bears all the time and they're not going to be into, you know, everything else. So seeing what is out there and you have,

Sidey: it does

Dan: know, it's on YouTube, it's, it's kind of very accessible to, to kids of just about all ages.

And it's there, you know, so.

Pete: so moving on from like what, what I said was my kind of like issue with it is that we, we're all adults, like, or allegedly, but we, what we do is like, you know, we'll take the piss out of each other and, and do, you know, and make comments about things and things we've seen and everything like that.

But because we're adults, we're far more qualified to be able to do that in the most appropriate setting, the most appropriate way. We're not going to go. Into like work the next day and go, ha, ha, look at your haircut, you prick light or whatever. We might think it, or we might say it to a mate behind closed doors or whatever.

But my concern with this, I mean, we do do that, right? But my concern with this is that, you know, say if I saw my daughter watching it, my fear would be. Do you then go to school the next day

Dan: How much

Pete: and send up like this kid or that kid or that thing or whatever?

Reegs: Tom Hanks feels when he tunes into this and hears Sidey absolutely go

Pete: it's unfortunate and we've spoken at length about that and

Reegs: Well, Yeah.

Dan: So, to, to not a big fan then, Pete.

Pete: that

Dan: I mean, no, none

Pete: don't think anyone's a big fan

Dan: None of us are. Yeah, it's something my daughter's been

Sidey: the fucking lowest of the low, I

Reegs: Oh, it's so, and it's edited, like, there's, like,

Sidey: Right, okay.

Reegs: longer than like a second and a half.

Sidey: so, that's my other point is right, she's got 16 million... Viewers or however many people watch this shit on average for each.

I don't know. So she absolutely could have someone Edit this and make it look really good, but it's just

Reegs: you know what I felt like it was like al my balls. That's what it was like in Idiocracy. That's what it was like. Yes. It was basically that.

Pete: But what, the latest way of doing these kind of like YouTube things and so on is to make it like completely relentless content. So, my boys, nothing like this, it's like Minecraft but two people commenting and commentating on it. But there is absolutely no let up whatsoever.

It's like when one's not talking, the other one is, and it's just like, rah, rah, rah, cut, cut, cut, cut. Rah, cut, rah, cut like that. And, and they're, they're consumed by it. So I under, I understand that that's the, the way at this moment in time that things are delivered,

Dan: Her delivery actually is very much like that. It's got, kind of got this, this drawl of like, you know, this American,

Sidey: Let's just get it out there. She's fucking, like, decent looking.

Dan: Yeah, no, hateable

Sidey: shoes. So people will tune in

Pete: hateable when she

Sidey: Yeah. But so there'll be young lads or

Dan: Well, she's got these, like, injected lips

Sidey: it's, and if you're a fucking like young teenager, you probably find it quite funny.

So that's why they watch it. It's absolutely fucking base level. The lowest of the low shit, like absolutely fucking competitively bad.

Reegs: it's like, to hear about her

Sidey: Yes.

Reegs: She has had a few dogs Kaz was her first dog they were all, all Pomeranians. Lumpy.

Sidey: didn't take its fucking turn. Yeah.

Reegs: Show me, show me. Lumpy was her second one it was initially named Luna, but changed after a couple of weeks. Tuna was her third dog, adopted in 2015.

Sadly and killed by a wild coyote. It's not funny. It's not funny. It's not that shit. Yeah, it's not funny. Exactly. And then that happened

Sidey: a

Reegs: He

Pete: Attacked and killed by a wild coyote. It's

Sidey: Easton, who we used to play football with, moved... He moved to Texas, and he had to ship... You know what, we met him at,

Reegs: oh yeah.

Sidey: He had, he shipped all his animals from Malaysia because that's where he lived before to Texas. And then after a few days, like they just got a ring at the doorbell, went out and someone had like a cartoon, like spinal cord and the remnants of one of his animals.

Reegs: a bunny. Is this your dog?

Sidey: And they said, I think a coyote's had one of your fucking dogs. He's like, well, you didn't need to bring it to the fucking door.

Pete: door. Like,

Reegs: could've just put it in the bin.

Pete: the door, yeah.

Dan: like we didn't need to the kids. There's your

Reegs: Gee whiz. Gee willikers. Yeah. Fucking absolute horseshit,

Pete: I'd, I'd sooner watch Ryan's World.

Sidey: recommend. It's a non recommend.

Dan: Yeah, it's You have to, you know, keep an eye on what your kid's watching online. Cause this shit is out

Reegs: Honestly, even less thought goes into that than goes into this.

Sidey: Wow.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: That's a warning.

Sidey: Right, who's choice is it next week?

Dan: question. I think it isn't mine. I

Sidey: it's Petri Dish.

Pete: it might be, yeah.

Sidey: You

Pete: I'm yet to confirm. Now I think about it, I'm gonna struggle. So

Dan: You always struggle. Three

Pete: weeks time, because I can't do the week after either.

Sidey: Okay, I've got some nominations for you.

Can you do those then? Yeah. Okay, we're going to do Top 5 Submarines.

Pete: do

Dan: Wow. We're going down

Sidey: Then yeah, Submersibles. And then the midweaker will be K 19 Widowmaker.

Reegs: Okay.

Pete: I've never seen that,

Sidey: And the main feature will be Submarine. Richard film

Reegs: Waddington's film.

Sidey: and then there'll be a kid's thing that will hopefully feature.

Well,

Dan: Wow. Yellow

Sidey: was thinking about doing the yellow submarine movie but I don't think we want to nominate another movie

Dan: Well, let's see. Let's see what happens.

Sidey: but we'll we'll come up with something so that's good isn't it?

Reegs: Right. Well,

Dan: Good. Right, well, down

Sidey: Think on that. All that remains is to say Sidey signing out.

Reegs: say,

Pete: Cheerio.

Dan: that. remains is to