The Walk & Mighty Mouse

The Walk

Reegs: Welcome to Bad Dad's Film Review, casting our pod over the movies we missed while we were busy making babies and regretting our life choices. I'm a co-host res, and before we start, a quick reminder that this podcast contains strong language, graphic violence, and scenes of a sexual nature. So if you're easily offended, you should probably fuck off now.

We are gonna be messing around with some new technology this week no matter how annoying it is. We have. Committed to a sound effect every time a code word is said during the pod. So it will be your job to figure it out when we say at which, what it is anyway. This week's show will actually start off with the madness that is Dan's choice for our top five, the quite.

Baffling category of trivia verse questions slash dad jokes. So it will be interesting to see slash not interesting to see what everyone's come up with in which in my case is not very much. After that, we'll be finding out whether we can walk the talk, as we talk about The Walk! The Robert Zemeckis 2015 love letter to the Twin Towers, and the story of Phil Small. Or more accurately Philippe Petit.

Dan: Yes.

Reegs: The kind of lunatic French wire artist, who walked between the two towers in 1974. And in our kids TV section, we'll be watching Mighty Mouse and the Magician, a 1948 cartoon where a rodent with superpowers saves a village from a bunch of pussies.

All that's left to do is introduce this week's twelve angry men, or more likely three cranky dads, starting with oldest and boldest Dan. He has a real way with words, a way of ruining, ruining them that is. Yeah. Yeah. Damn it. We can't rerecord that bit, can we? If you've ever wondered whether Quentin Tarantula directed Nuns Upon a Lime in Bollywood, Dan will have you covered.

We also have former Illuminati and current Tesco club card member Saidi, whose new podcast is called With a Your Sister's Vuvuzela It's all covered in phlegm. And that is available in all good book bookshops now, so that'll be great.

Dan: forward to that, yeah.

Reegs: Yeah! Yeah, man! Yeah, it's all in your hands.

Dan: your hands.

Sidey: great.

Reegs: Ugh.

Dan: And

Reegs: then there's me, Reeves. Hello. Right.

Sidey: It's all in your hands. I

Reegs: No, No, not at all, no.

Dan: all, Recently, I don't know if it was this week,

Reegs: Andy

Dan: yeah.

Yeah, and which gave me the Idea for our kids tv this week actually because he does a fantastic impression That we watched a little bit earlier, didn't we? Um And and that was it. Really. I watched the super bowl last night. So I was up quite late watching I watched to the the end of the

normal time, but it's like just after three o'clock in the morning when it went into overtime and I thought No, it's too much for me.

And because I got work this morning So I went off to bed and see that the kansas city chiefs Have done it. Well taylor swift's lot and no, no not interested

Sidey: Well, I'm a Niners fan,

Dan: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, okay.

Reegs: But she's at the center of the culture wars, isn't she now? So

Dan: Right here,

Sidey: kicking off about that. chap Publishing all her flight data as well.

Reegs: Yeah. Well, Elon Musk didn't like it as well, didn't he? He had a

I

Sidey: no, but I think it's in the public domain, isn't it?

So, not much you can do. Anyway, I started watching very quickly

I'm

gonna say give up, but I'm on the backbone of the room. Tommy

Wiseau. Oh, geez.

Dan: Yeah, it's

Reegs: it's

not

a good movie.

Dan: good movie. Did anyone

Sidey: needs to be a communal experience because it's just

I think that

was it.

Reegs: Did anyone catch up with Greg Wallace's Typical Saturday recently?

Yeah.

he published in the Telegraph is like typical Saturday and it's like the most Alan Partridge thing you could ever read. And it's got a really

Sidey: I'm gonna read

Reegs: could read it to you here just because, you know, as parents, I think it's interesting to get a take on what he says here.

He talks about his typical day at 1. 30 PM. I like to spend some time with my four year old son, Sid, who's nonverbal, autistic blah, blah, blah. He says I'm a much better father now, even though.

 Another child isn't something that I would have chosen at my age.

Sidey: The mistake,

He refers

to it as the

Reegs: Mistake publicly in the paper in that lovely. Yeah. And then he talks about how he fucks off to his study after he's had to spend an hour and a half with his son who he hates. He, he goes off to the study to play total war.

Dan: You know when you get those presents for your birthday, it's like, on your day, and you get the newspaper.

Or something like that, on your birthday, when you were born. He'll get it, he'll just see how disappointing it was when he was born.

Reegs: don't like

Sidey: I've never liked that fucking prick. He always thought he was a wanker.

Reegs: a wanker. It seems like he really

Sidey: So that's good. We did on the, in other news, we did do a top five last week, which I think was statues, And we put out a plea for some It was statues and

Reegs: Sculptures. Sculptures,

Sidey: and we talked about Crucible of Terror and how the poster look really good and it sounded great.

Well, Darren, and that was Darren Leafy's nomination. He was good enough to go out and actually find us a link to the movie. That's in our Discord in the Top five channel, so you can do that. Beaver, he's coming in strong with multiple statues in the movie 300, or better yet, the spoof Meet the Spartans. And also Troy.

All the same sort of kind of

time period there. And male statues in Narnia. The line of which in the Wardrobe. The Queen turns Mr. Tumnus into a statue and the kids discover a whole room of statues in her castle later on. Brilliant statue

Reegs: content.

Oh, and Return to Oz has a bit of sort of statue

Sidey: Yeah, it

does

Dan: Statuesque.

Sidey: My line line which water doesn't go in

Reegs: No.

Sidey: Should put it in? Yeah.

Done.

Dan: it was a top five that I had to come up with. It was a bit out of left field because we talked about experimenting a little bit in this section or, or what

Reegs: not by being completely nonsensical, but

Dan: no, but that's what you get if you're going to ask me to do it. So, we've been playing a lot of trivia verse lately.

And,

Reegs: So that's a

Dan: have completed it.

Reegs: A game, isn't it?

trivia

Dan: quiz on Netflix. You play with your remote control.

Reegs: Hosted by the Trivia Master. Is that what he's called? He's like the MCP in Tron. He's like this giant pair of floating eyes. And he just says, I rule the triviaverse. Think you can beat me off. And

Dan: and yes, we do.

Sidey: did

beat him off

Reegs: did. Last week we beat him.

Dan: Yeah.

because it, depending on how many questions you get, right? In the three minute rounds, which are multi. choice 50 50 or there's four, then you'll get different points and you can get a streak if you continue to get questions correct one after another you can start getting more points and they will build up to like two or three hundred points each.

Sidey: Do you know what this is? A walkthrough.

Dan: very much it is.

Reegs: It has trivia versus really meant for us audiences, I would say. So it has a bit of a cultural bias. If you don't like baseball and American football and basketball and stuff, then you're going to struggle. What I did, it's got, and it's got a lot of you know, I've got some sample questions here.

Would you be interested

Dan: I'd be very interested, yeah.

Reegs: Which of these artists has the rapper in his name and you're given the multiple choice option of Tyler or chance.

This,

Sidey: Tyler the Creator, so it would be Chance the

Reegs: Yeah, which word describes the process of a larger atom splitting into smaller ones, What are the original skittles flavor?

Dan: Yeah, but you, you get like a choice, don't you, to, go.

Reegs: and it's interesting you should talk about that because data scientist Ryan Brown he analyzed Random guessing as a strategy,

Dan: Oh yeah, we've, we've gone through that strategy.

Reegs: He's got a fascinating article. Did you read it? It talks about the district because there's a high

Dan: I glossed it.

Reegs: distribution of true false questions in the earlier rounds, it puts up your chances of doing well.

So basically he plotted this all out and simulated it. And he said, because he could answer just guessing 89 questions across the three rounds, quite a lot more than we would answer in it, that's about two and a half times the amount more. And he's got, if you see here, he's got the average distribution over 10, 000 games, which is calculated.

So how many times you would, the probability of getting the score. So his expected time is 392 minutes of random guessing. Basically, his conclusion is about six and a half hours of random guessing as a tactic. I was trying to work out did we play that game for more than six and a half hours? Did we beat random guessing as a strategy?

Sidey: if we play it again tonight, we'll have six something

Dan: even with three minute rounds. We

because you, you've got all these different scores, from egghead to kind of student to PhD student to genius to triv we yeah. Trivia verse gods which is what we are now.

We did that without anybody else's

Sidey: No one fell out last week,

so that's good.

Dan: that was strong

Reegs: has been a source of controversy within the group, hasn't

Dan: it? has a little

Reegs: fell out about,

Dan: Answering questions and

correctly and, and

well, the pressure does get to people sometimes in these high,

Reegs: Peter walked away.

Dan: But there you go. Yeah. Well, I thought I'd mix in this brilliant, one of the questions that there's more trees on earth than stars in the Milky Way. That blew my mind. I don't know whether I believe that. That was a triviaverse

Sidey: That has to be

Dan: and answer. Well, okay, you asked the

Reegs: verse.

There are more

what?

Dan: are more trees on earth than stars in the Milky Way.

Sidey: I'm

saying

no.

Dan: I'm, I'm saying, I'm calling bullshit on that as well, to be honest, but I haven't counted either. So, um,

Sidey: Well you

better go on

Dan: Yeah, I better get on to it. Well, there, there was, I went on to, to Reddit just to see if anybody else ever played this game and other people have. that's the best score And they posted their highest

scores. Yeah, on, what you got? So,

I saw a spiritual ArtCore 80 17. Yeah. As a screenshot of 11,450.

Reegs: Fuck me. What was our 6,000 and

Sidey: hundred? something like that.

Dan: or 200? Yeah. Something like that. So I, I thought that was worth a, a

mention actually.

Reegs: Is worth a mention.

Sidey: all I'm going to say is that there's a limited question bank. so if you just memorize all the questions, if you play it for long enough that you've memorized what you will just get to 11,

Reegs: Yeah. I suppose.

Dan: Yeah, you, you know, it's, they, some people argue, you know, just memorizing the questions is, is that not cheating? But I would say no, I think that's learning,

Sidey: Yeah.

So you've done that.

Dan: And then I wanted you all to bring a dad joke or two to the show. And I don't know how we're going to top five this.

I haven't got

Sidey: Well, I've got dad jokes that also are in movies.

Reegs: Alright.

Dan: Alright. Well, you, you should have brought that to the table earlier.

Sidey: Do you want one from, I know Riggs, this is a bone of contention with him, Beauty and the Beast. you think it's morally dubious? content. But the teapot is it? Or the

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Says if it's not Baroque, don't fix it.

Dan: Ha ha ha ha. That's good. Oh, that is

Sidey: see what he's done

there. Hercules, so these are all Disney ones. Hercules, somebody call I X I I.

Or 1 1 9. Moana. They use Is it, Heihei? The

Reegs: chicken? Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: I think Maui scrolls something with it. And then like a nod wink to the camera, says when you write something with a chicken, it's called tweeting.

Reegs: It's not anymore. Yeah.

Dan: was at the time. Yeah, okay, lost a little on, that,

Reegs: Me?

I think dad jokes, the best dad jokes are when you are super literal with your responses to questions. So the best dad joke ever, I think is when your kid says, dad, I'm hungry and you go, hello, hungry.

I'm dad. I think that is the pinnacle of, of dad jokes. Or like more, you know, how did you sleep with my eyes closed?

Dan: Yeah,

I like those

Reegs: you know, can I have not have another one of those?

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah, that's, that's where the best ones are. But so I did look up some dad jokes. I mean, is that what we're doing? We're just telling dad

Dan: give, just give me a couple, yeah.

Reegs: My son decided to buy a new reversible jacket. I can't wait to see how it turns out.

Sidey: see

Dan: Look, the wife apologized to me for the first time ever.

She,

she's sorry she ever married me.

Sidey: What was the, See, my particular favorite, because there's, there are people who's just make a career out

Reegs: dad joking,

Sidey: We watched a few last week, what was the Canadian fellow? I can't remember his name now.

Norm something is it?

Reegs: No, yeah,

Sidey: there's the guy that you put us on too. but my favorite is Tim Vine.

Dan: Brilliant,

Sidey: he's one of his sets is like an attempt at a world record amount of puns. I think it might be called pun believable or something like that.

Reegs: The most amount of puns in a, in a,

Sidey: a

Reegs: an hour or set.

Sidey: yeah

Dan: It's, it's difficult to, to count them all

Sidey: so I just, I would just enjoy them on their own right. You know, just watching it and laughing.

But my missus hates them so much. that

Reegs: it even better for you then. She

hates

Sidey: the, the level of enjoyment. And so there's loads, it's got loads of great ones. I'm thinking of one at

random. I put super glue on Eric Bristow's darts. Just won't let it go

will

Dan: it go, will you? Well, he got,

Reegs: Nice.

Dan: It was that one that not all maths jokes are terrible, only some.

Reegs: What do you call a bunch of sheep rolling down a hill? A lambslide.

Dan: When she comes home in a white suit covered in bee stings and smelling of honey, you know she's a keeper.

Reegs: I bought a new type of air freshener that you can control with your mind. Makes sense when you think about it.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah? That's

brilliant. Do you

Sidey: you want a movie one?

Dan: Yes, go on. I like the movie ones. I think that's a nice twist. The problem

Sidey: it's a joke sort

of on the

Star Wars theme.

Why did the Star Wars movie come out in the order 4,

Reegs: 2,

Dan: I don't know.

Sidey: In charge of the sequence, Yoda was.

Reegs: Yeah, there you go. Very good. Actually, I think there is a dad joke in Star Wars in Rogue One. When he says Be careful not to choke on your aspirations, director. That's a pretty dad joke from Darth Vader, I would say.

Dan: Ah, yeah, it's, it's

Reegs: I also used to like, on Shooting Stars, Vic's bad jokes. And it was always in the Dove.

introduction round.

Sidey: round.

Reegs: You get, like, the tolling church bell, the tumbleweed, and he'd have some jokes, like, I've got a couple of them here, what do doves watch after the news, the feather forecast, I've been using that new dove soap and I can say it's got my skin in beak condition, that kind of, yeah, and everything really shit.

And then one time Bob tells one, a dove friend of mine is very fond of curry, his favorite is a vindicoo, and everyone goes completely bananas, they're cheering, and yeah, it's great. And they also used to do the bad pun names in the credits. I've got, like, one that I remembered was, they'd call in all occupants of interplanetary craft.

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: I've got one from the movie that you have to have the right pronunciation of the punchline or it doesn't So if you say it about how Brit would say Have you seen the movie Her, Joaquin Phoenix? And it falls in love with his phone, like he said, he says to his phone, What does a baby computer call its father?

says, I don't know what. Now, we would say data.

Reegs: Yeah.

data.

Sidey: specific

Dan: have to be from a, a, a special part of the world. Um,

You know,

somebody has been secretly adding soil into our veg patch.

I don't know if it was you or

you. Oh, the plot thickens. I don't know.

Sidey: don't

Reegs: but they're right up there.

Sidey: Jeez.

Reegs: I have got, but I don't know whether we've done this before, I've got like a little lost in translation quiz. It's like, you guess, it's the translated names of movies, bit of trivia

Dan: Oh, alright, go on.

Reegs: what they this was in China, Six Naked Pigs was the movie, The Full Monty, of course it was. Super Power Dare Die Team, Ghostbusters Afterlife, again in China, Die Hard Mega Hard. It was Die Hard, just in Denmark, yeah. Austin Powers, the spy who behaved very nicely around me.

Dan: that

Reegs: that was Malaysia, I think you can guess that one. If You Leave Me I Delete You. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind in Italy, it's a good one. The Unbelievable Trip in a Wacky Airplane. Yes, Germany.

Yeah. His powerful device makes him famous.

Sidey: Is it Gasker

Reegs: It's boogie nights.

Sidey: Yes, it could be.

Reegs: Exactly.

Yeah. A floppy coppers don't bite. That was Dragner in Germany. I'm drunk and you're a prostitute was leaving Las Vegas in Japan. And finally my favorite really. And I really think this. Fucks the whole movie in China the sixth sense was named he's a ghost

Dan: Yeah, that kind of gives it away a bit,

Reegs: a little bit.

Sidey: Spoiler alert right there.

Reegs: So that's a bit of movie trivia something or other

Sidey: Cool.

I don't even know if we can put anything into a Top

Reegs: vice ridiculous utterly ridiculous If is this any better than our other stuff? It does. I don't

Dan: Well, I don't know. I mean, I'll leave you with this though.

What do you call anxious dinosaurs? Nervous wrecks.

Sidey: went to Van Morrison's on the way round here. as it

Dan: Okay,

you bought you doubled up on the munchies again.

Sidey: tell you why Dan, because they're two for three pounds fifteen.

Dan: Yeah, that's a Strong

reason to, to go.

Sidey: Much easier. You can get those in salted caramel variety. I know Chris bought them a couple weeks ago.

Yeah. And they're excellent. But the ordinary ones are great too. And I know I thought that wouldn't be enough because I'd probably eat those myself. So We've got some caramel

Dan: buttons.

The rest of us didn't bring a lot. There is a bottle of wine, but That's not going down that well. There was a pot of tea which has gone down well.

Sidey: that was tremendous. And that. Segues very nicely into this week's movie. The Walk.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Well, I

Sidey: had never heard of this,

Reegs: the movie,

Dan: may have heard or even seen.

Reegs: you never heard of the movie, but you knew of the story, right? Or I

Sidey: know that it was that story. Even when I started watching it.

Well, when he started talking, yes. But when I saw the picture of it, you know, the, fucking like

cover of the movie, whatever movie poster, that's the one before still didn't ring any bells. And then I had seen man on a wire.

Dan: is the documentary of I think it was an Oscar winning documentary of the, the, the man who crossed between the two buildings

Reegs: Yes.

Sidey: a

Dan: a wire.

Sidey: Yeah,

what did he do on that wire?

He

Dan: Traversed it. He twisted it,

his

fingers and his, his feet around it. And

Sidey: Joseph Gordon Levitt. And so I was like, great. I really like him. So that's cool.

I'm, Um, Put it on. And he does

it like

It does the French

accent.

Dan: from the beginning, it opens with his French accent.

Sidey: I was like, oh,

Dan: It, It, did, it did,

me as

Reegs: atop a, a Statue of Liberty. The Statue of Liberty, looking back towards the, the New York skyline, which is conspicuous because of course the twin towers are still there with the.

Sunlight

Sidey: It's kind of weird to see them.

again, isn't It

Dan: was, wasn't it? I mean, there, there they were, the, the,

Sidey: You

don't see them really at all nowadays without.

Reegs: Yes. Well this was, yeah, and that's, I think the movie is as much a love letter to the Twin Towers as it is the story of this incredible

Dan: Although, other than right at the beginning, and right at the end, I, I didn't think of that event. Connected with this film apart from right at the beginning and say right at the end

Reegs: yes. Other than that there were a character in the movie for him

Dan: They they are but each time I looked up it wasn't bringing me back to september 11th for anything because the story of philippe petite no was you know, that was a story in itself, which which held my attention,

Reegs: know, that was a story in itself which

Sidey: wanna talk about his

Reegs: my attention.

Sidey: something weird there. Yeah, it's a

Reegs: And he talks about he doesn't fear death and he never says the word. And that's why he walks the wire. he takes us back to Paris, France in 1973 where he was a street performer playing to sort of crowds. And

Sidey: he figured out, he could draw a perfect circle, which he does in chalk on the ground, and then he's got a unicycle and he just sort of various shitty kind of tricks.

He juggles a bit. and he does

Dan: mime

Sidey: some mime, and it's fairly

in

Dan: back, back in the day, I mean, he's, he's a very physical actor, performer, artiste, if you like.

Sidey: on sort of clowns and that this is really kind of effectively what his act is until he meets gandhi

Reegs: Yeah,

yeah.

Dan: And he's he meets another circus performer or another circus performer, because as you say, quite rightly, he doesn't see himself as a performer. In a circus, he sees himself as an artiste.

But he knows that they know their stuff and he wants to learn about how to put up a high wire correctly. Because he's had a go and it's fallen down before.

Reegs: he already, he hasn't had the bit with the jawbreaker thing, has he? Have we done that bit yet? Where he's inspired. He gets a sweet, a hard boiled sweet from a girl in the crowd, and he cracks his jaw on it as he's doing a trick, and it sends him off to the dentist.

And in the dentist's waiting room, he comes across a magazine article that's got a picture of the Twin Towers that's still under construction. One of the built,

Dan: that's it.

The North Tower, I think, was still being fixed.

Reegs: And he has this idea then after seeing it in the

Dan: magazine. First of all,

Sidey: he's chased away. He never has a permit. He said he'd rather just run away. So the gendarmes come and chase him away. and He goes into a big And he sees the high climbs up, and has a go. It's it's Ben Kingsley is Papa Roach. Is it? Papa Rudy. Who berates him and

then

Dan: Ben Kingsley.

Sidey: yeah. Sorry. He kicks over a chest, which is full of things which he juggles. And say Papa Roach is like, oh, you got the skills. I'm going to teach you how to be a proper performer. And, in fucking, giving with fucking bullshit about your fucking outfit and all this shit.

And he's only in it very briefly at first, he sort of comes back in sporadically later on in the movie. But, he just he realises that he can do more than just this little circle thing. He's actually, he's captivated by

Reegs: the challenge of wire and

Sidey: what it can do for him.

Dan: him. Yeah. That's it. His dream since he's seen this in the dentist is to perform a high wire Traverse from the North Tower to the South Tower

It's four hundred and ten stories high or

Reegs: 110 stories, 412

Dan: 412

Reegs: meters taller than the Eiffel Tower. It's captivated him, this set of buildings. And he knows what he wants to do, and he needs a team of accomplices to,

Dan: and it's crazy. I

mean, let's be honest, it is crazy because you think of the wind and you think of just the the seagulls, the how difficult it would be. Not to mention that it's illegal but that hasn't stopped him before you.

We, we see him doing the, the Tower of Notre Dame.

Sidey: Well, first of all, he, like, pisses off a lady who's also a

Performer. She's

Reegs: Annie.

Sidey: Doing something that I fucking detest, which is busking on the street.

I fucking hate it.

Reegs: He steals her crowd.

Sidey: she's annoyed because more people are watching.

him than are

Listening to her dreadful fucking street performance. And so she goes to confront him, but they end up shagging.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: Basically.

And

Dan: He wins her over. That's the love interest. Yeah. And she helps him get this kind of few accomplices together that he needs in order to keep an eye, look out for the cops and get the wires up.

Sidey: This is too big a job for just him. Not least because it's fucking illegal and they're going to kind of need to somehow break in to get onto the roof at the very least. And then when you start seeing the amount of equipment And how fucking heavy it's going to be and all the rest of it.

It's quite a project to get this off the

Reegs: Yeah, and

it needs a quite specific bunch of people because it's pretty subversive as we're, you know.

Dan: met some of these people, some of these friends on previous soirees into illegal areas to pop wires. And say he did the Notre Dame one. He got arrested after that. And he's getting a little bit in the notoriety now and people are recognizing him a little bit, which will help him a little bit further down the line because a man that actually works in the towers will later on connect with him and recognize him as, as somebody Who, who does this kind of thing.

And, and he ends up helping him. But we we're jumping on a little bit, but really we're just missing the relationships build and, and fracture and in and around the circus life. Which he dabbles on,

Sidey: just didn't care about all this stuff. I was like, come on, let's just fucking get to the fucking thing.

Dan: fast forward on onto the,

Sidey: And so he meets, there's a few people, I think there's a couple of Frenchies they, they go into New York City and they want to buy some comms. And the fella behind the desk is like, well you've probably, the walkie talkie, this is like the shit now, this

is what you want. And they're like, no, no, no, we want the wired And the guy's like, really?

Because that's,

Dan: I'm

Sidey: I won't even be able to give you a warranty, it's kind of old tech, you don't want that. And they're like, no, no, no, we want that one. And so the guy goes off to get the box, and whilst disappeared from this, they speak in French. That's kind of, they're not really rude, but they just sort of ignorantly think. Yeah, they kind of ignorantly, Well, they say that we don't

Dan: This guy's just trying to rip us off.

We want

Sidey: no, We don't want

the, we don't want the walk talk 'cause we don't want the to be

able to overhear us. And so the guy comes back and put, and, and in French says, Listen, if you guys are doing a bank robbery or a drug deal, then whatever. and, and do you think that you're the only people in the fucking town who can speak French?

And they're like, Oh my God, this guy's alright.

He's into

1. And he can speak French. so He joins the crew.

Dan: Yeah, and

Reegs: he knows New York as well. And he quickly introduces two others as well to the equation, doesn't he? The there's like a stoner and some other guy.

Dan: a lot. Yeah, one guy who's just Yes, stoned and then one guy who seems to be a little more in it for himself, but it's at the last hour They don't have anyone else and they're

available

Reegs: anyone else, and they're available.

It's a heist movie

Dan: it is a heist movie now, isn't it it's a heist movie in which they have to

Sidey: But they need to get to the freight elevator. Yeah,

Dan: They have to get what they have to yeah

Reegs: well, he has to check it out. I mean, they've got to figure it out on the fly, really, like how this fucking thing is going to be done. And I mean, they've come up with this, one of the mates turns out to be an expert shot with a bow and arrow.

And so the way that they do it is really quite ingenious. They shoot an arrow between the two. We've seen this as well earlier, haven't we?

Sidey: poison arrow

Reegs: we see it shown earlier on what they're planning to do. It's shown to us in this little sequence that he's gonna fire an arrow from one tower to the other with some fishing line on it and pull some rope and

Dan: and

one rope pulls a longer rope

Reegs: it on both sides.

So it's gonna take quite a long time, you know, all this stuff.

Sidey: So They're gonna You have to do it overnight. The plan is to do that, set that all up overnight, and then at basically daybreak, he'll do the walk.

Dan: at basically daybreak,

Sidey: There's lots of hurdles in the

Dan: do the

Sidey: there's, there's all this construction going on, and when they get, they have a big pallet of stuff that they need to go up the freight elevator, and the moment they get there, this new yoyker Says uh, no, they're, they're fucking rented out.

These elevators are booked out for all week. You know, you have to come back next week. And so, matey from the hardware store that sold them this uh, walk

Dan: He's got the talk of the talk.

Sidey: Has to smooth talk him and he's like, Oh, you're from so and so, I've got, my neighbor is from there, and just schmoozes him endlessly until it's time to go home, and it's the end of their shift.

and the guy's like, go on then, just fucking up you go.

And the guy, it's like a bellboy almost, the guy that runs the elevator. It's like, what floor are you going to, and they just look at what the top

Dan: you

Sidey: 102.

Dan: just like, what's the top number?

Sidey: He's

dead easy, they think, they're going to have a nightmare with this guy, but he's just like, what's the fucking go home. It's like, yeah, I'll be going and

Reegs: just like, yeah, I'll be going home. To buy Papa Roach to check his equipment on both sides every time. Never walk the wire, unless you've checked the equipment on, on both sides.

But he only checks it on one tower himself, doesn't he?

Sidey: Yeah.

I think it was,

I don't know whether it was time pressured or

Reegs: well, he just, I couldn't

Dan: Well, I think it was, it was kind of everything that could go wrong, did go wrong. There was various delays.

Sidey: They lose a bunch of time because they hear a They hear a guard coming and they have to hide. So the side that SmallPhilip is on. He's with a guy who

has got fucking

vertigo. And so they have to hide under this tarpaulin. when they,

Reegs: this was bizarre. Like they throw themselves under this tarpaulin, they're just above like a, an elevator shaft

Sidey: is

above a shaft which has a fucking,

like, girder across it, which they just have to sit on. I think for three hours. And the guy's just fucking terrified the whole

Dan: Yes, his worst, worst

Reegs: largely, this stuff is represented,

this

stuff actually happened. This stuff that we're talking about

Dan: Yeah, it's a

true story, so they didn't have permission, they had to sneak in.

Sidey: in the canvas.

with his biro, So that he can look out and he can see that there's a say it!

There's a mobile communication device

Reegs: device

Sidey: Which has just been left on a stool But they cannot see where the guard has gone just kind of waiting And then eventually they're like, do or

die. We go, just fucking go.

I think the guy's just sat in a chair having a nap.

Reegs: Yeah. Well, no. Eventually the, the communication device is gone and that's when they can make their move. But, and they do go up and they do set up, and then there's another moment where a guy just wanders up. I did not know what was go, whether this guy was suicidal or

Sidey: Well, that's, there's a guard first who comes up, and

he's, it's still dark when he comes up. So Philippe hides, climbs over the edge and hides on a ledge. And the other guy who's got vertigo, he just hides in a shadow, like under And

He's called away for pizza and then yeah in the morning when he's just about to do it and he's holding a fucking like

where

Dan: pipe. Yeah, yeah.

Sidey: on the ceiling, you know,

on

Dan: Well, that was the crank, wasn't it, for the,

Sidey: Guy just comes up And just stands there looks at the edge like, suit, like not a security guard like you say just a

Reegs: office worker And yeah,

Sidey: and yeah, I thought this

Dan: The mystery guy.

Sidey: something and he just looks at them And just kind of nods, and just walks off, and that must have been true.

Reegs: was,

Sidey: Because he, he, And then it goes back to him narrating. Philip, on the thing that goes, he goes, Never heard from this guy again, never knew what he was doing or what the fuck. it's Just the mystery guy.

Reegs: guy. Mysterious

Dan: what he was doing or what the fuck,

Reegs: have stopped, nothing was going to stop

Dan: just a mystery guy, a

mysterious

Sidey: what were you going to do? And he just drops the pipe on the think He was going to

Dan: looking down like he didn't even know that he had it. And he said, I just, you know, didn't, didn't understand any

of

Reegs: So now he's ready though, basically. They're set up.

Sidey: But what we should point out Is that he'd done a comedic stand on a plank of wood with a nail.

through it. So he's got an ongoing

Dan: Yeah.

His

Sidey: his foot. Which quite key for walking

Dan: Yeah. I mean, he and I.

Sidey: A

Dan: nail has gone right through his, his foot, right,

Sidey: It's

like when Beckham did,

Dan: About three,

Reegs: It was about three weeks before, yeah.

Dan: Before, so it's still giving him a little bit of jip.

Reegs: But, even worse than that as he's you know, the wiring is now complete, he's stood up ready to go, but as he starts to go and we've already been told the first three steps either side are the most dangerous sort of thing, and seeing that that

Sidey: is I would have thought the bit in the middle was also Pretty dangerous.

Dan: yeah.

But it is psychologically that

Sidey: a join in the, or a support bit

Dan: Right in

Sidey: middle that he has to step on. I'm like, well, that's, I dunno, All seem pretty dangerous to me.

Reegs: And as he goes to walk on the, on the wire, his he drops his, like, shirt. His, his turtleneck.

Sidey: Well, Papa Roach has told him that this is about the transformation from becoming a prick into becoming a

Reegs: an artist.

Sidey: An artist, and he, yeah, he just clumsily, very well, they nearly dropped the wire as well, didn't they? Because it was so heavy.

But yeah, he drops it over, and the people, like his girlfriend and the other dude are watching him, think he's fallen, so there's panic, and then they realize, oh no, it's just his shirt. And he has a fucking huge tantrum about, oh, I've got this shit undershirt, and I fucking have to do it in that.

I'm thinking,

it was just,

Dan: Well, and then Vertico guy His turtleneck And then Vertico guy gives, gives him Oh, what are we gonna do?! And he goes Yeah, I'll just

Sidey: You a

Dan: this

Reegs: show must go on.

Sidey: ready to kill someone. So I think, you know,

doing it without your tail neck is also

Dan: You're ready to go. So the,

Reegs: so where, and we start the walk.

Dan: We start the walk and he started around about seven o'clock in the morning. And,

Reegs: We get all of it, like the metallic creaking of everything and the wind

Sidey: at this point.

I looked

Something I was looking something up,

and

I didn't realize.

Reegs: it

was green screen. You thought they'd

Sidey: this was a 3D movie.

Reegs: Yeah. That would've been cooler.

Sidey: cooler.

So I didn't

Dan: didn't know that.

Sidey: Yeah. So uh, everything I'd been like really fucking underwhelmed with it up to this point. And then when he did the walk, all I was thinking about was like, man, I wish I'd seen this. in 3D, because I don't really care about 3D, but something like this where it's appropriate. would have been fucking great. Especially, like, even at imax

Jesus,

and the people were. Throwing up. Screenings of it. it. was that fucking

Dan: Well, you get that, that sense of vertigo when the camera just goes over the edge

there. And yeah, it's, it's uncomfortable, you know, looking down like that.

Sidey: He does the walk across and then he's done North to south or south to north.

Dan: everyone.

Sidey: one and.

he

Reegs: Well, he does one, he does one and then,

Dan: he gets there, he's done it, they're all celebrating

and he he kind of he kind of goes, looks back along it, doesn't he?

And he says, it's, it's still

Reegs: void, it's a place, a sort of spiritual place that he's describing the void.

Dan: and we get a couple of sort of individual moments where he performs, you know, he salutes to the, the crowd, to the towers, to the audience.

Sidey: And then, yeah, he says he's, he has to signify, or signal his gratitude to the towers, to the wire, to

Reegs: to the city,

Sidey: to the city, to, you know, all that.

Dan: He lies down at one point on the wire there's

Sidey: goes, I do one, one thing that a wire walker should never do.

look down. and He puts, because he's got that enormous balancing pole. I think if it was any good he could have done it without the pole,

He puts that down on the wall, and then kneels on it and just sits and looks at all the people.

and fucking hell.

Reegs: looks at all the people. Fucking hell. The

Dan: the cops have started to come on one of the towers, the tower he started on. And as he's finishing back up on one walk over, seen them and they've called him in and he's put the pole on his shoulders,

managed to

twist on the wire and then start walking back along the other way. Amazing. You know, so he does that and then as he's gone along, he's come. I've seen that the police have got onto the other side as well and he just chooses to frustrate the police, and

Sidey: showboating

Dan: he starts showbaiting a little bit, the weather starts coming in though, because he's suddenly been on there, best part of an hour now,

Sidey: suddenly

Dan: and this, and it gives him the evil eye,

Sidey: that's part of an hour now.

Yeah. crisis of confidence. And he starts to have these negative thoughts. Fuck. Better get back to the edge. Lord. And so it six times. I think he does the journey

Reegs: I think so. Yeah.

Sidey: And so at this point it's time to make his way back across and he's got, I think, those last three steps He's back where he's And he just calls out to the police and said, and his name and he.

says,

Well, I didn't say it's finished because he's got he says I've still got to do these three steps.

Dan: to, cut the wire.

Which

Sidey: Yeah and he, he gives them a little spiel about blah blah blah, and then sort of hops to the end and they grab him. He kind of says, My name's Philip. I'm a Y and he's like trying to be all

Dan: I'm a white walker.

Reegs: whi Yeah.

Sidey: That's

Reegs: That's when they're about to cut the wire and he says to them, Oh no, don't, you know, you've got to

Sidey: oh, no, don't, you know, you've got

Dan: It'll hurt. Somebody says the handle's there. And, and they realize, okay, he's

Sidey: realise, okay, he's obviously

Reegs: Well, pretty much straight away as they walk him down to the as they, as, as they walk him down to the,

to

the yeah,

Dan: you've got it now, surely, at home.

Reegs: he he's clapped everywhere by everyone. And even the copper who sits him down is like, that was amazing.

Dan: is something that was that was something and it really was he pulled it off.

He'd managed to do it. He got he had to go to see the judge who then said, right, well, look, you better go and do this high wire act again for children. Central Park is part of your punishment. He got a ticket for life to the observation tower. on the on the North Tower. So he could go up and visit whenever he

Reegs: Yes, but poignantly we're, we're shown Philip's perspective of, you know, life turned out to be 27 years.

Dan: well, but I mean, what else is you know, just really, I think, nicer around the, the story is the fact that they didn't originally like it, the New Yorkers, it wasn't.

Huge buildings that they thought are that's gonna be fantastic. But the fact that he'd done this that somebody had walked between these two buildings Suddenly helped

people for fall in love with it.

It wasn't there weren't just two buildings There were two buildings in which somebody had done something really quite extraordinary on And whenever you looked in them or talked about them that would have been in their conversation people all around the world couldn't believe it hit the news and the headlines and he complained about various press that he'd he'd received earlier in france and things but everyone to a man had applauded really the the effort and the the artistry and the the bravery really

Reegs: to get out

Dan: is a slap on the

Reegs: understand. And you

Dan: they understand that.

You think, right, he went for all this a slap on the wrist and all the rest of it, but he set up in the dark. He did this, you know, how difficult would it be to check all those health and safety bits in the light when you've got a full team who know what they're doing? No, he's doing it in the dark and it's just, It just

doesn't seem, it is, It's absolutely, I

Reegs: But what

Dan: so bold to be able to do it.

Well, I enjoyed the story and, and I can pick holes in the accent for sure and the wigs and, and all the rest of it, but it was a story that I

Sidey: He is a Francophile,

Joseph Gordon Levitt.

And he is fluent in French. He studied, you know, while at

Dan: I got used to it to

Sidey: he probably is actually pretty good.

Reegs: I personally did not like the stylistic conventions of the movie. I did not like the narrative constant narrative and the score, which it never trusted the audience to kind of understand Petit's whimsical nature or understand when to feel or, or wonder, or whether to think he was a genius or a madman.

Like every dramatic note or theme is like really highlighted. So the audience wouldn't miss a beat. Personally don't like that style of storytelling. So I preferred, although the wire walking is really great, that stuff. And it is a terrific story. I personally much preferred the documentary,

To, to, to this.

But as a love letter to the twin towers, like you're talking about, I think it's actually really nice, like to, to look at it like that.

Dan: you, know, I like Levin Merrick. Yeah. I like this guy as well. Whatever his name is. Yeah, that's him. John Merrick. I like him.

Sidey: And

Dan: and and say that this story was something really Special, a true story like this brought to life and I watched afterwards him talking with Petit about the story and a couple of the interviews he did because he, he ended up doing like, a load of others at Sydney Harbour Bridge and a few others and there's some other guy did across Niagara Falls, didn't he?

He went across, yeah, you know, so he's I know I think he made it, did he?

Sidey: someone in a Barrel, that snuffed it

Dan: maybe the, the, the barrels. But,

Sidey: I

hated it Oh, You're right, I hated the score I hated the score

Reegs: was horrible

Sidey: I was hating the film until he started doing the walk Um,

boom, boom, boom.

And, I like that bit.

But we watched a biopic last week, and that was about someone who did something amazing. This was just some fucking

asshole that walked.

into it I don't care about

Dan: stuff. He,

Reegs: Oh, I do think it's pretty incredible, like, it's a bit of art, like, I think it's amazing.

Sidey: fucking, like, bullshit it doesn't advance anything, it doesn't do anything, it's just some fucking twat.

Who,

Dan: I dunno. I

Sidey: lives and it's

Dan: No, I, I

I disagree

Reegs: think it's one, I think, I do think it's quite amazing as a piece

Sidey: not. Kill him. Kill them all.

Dan: No, I

I, think

Sidey: I want him to I I would rather he fell.

Dan: Yeah, no,

I'm, I'm pleased

that he made it and it is incredible. It is, it is a fantastic achievement to go over there.

Sidey: I've got some box office info for you. This cost almost exactly the same as Gattaca.

Not adjusted for inflation, 35 million US dollars. Do you think it was as floppy as Gattaca, or rock hard?

Dan: No, I think it was floppy.

Reegs: Yeah, floppy, I would say.

Sidey: 61 million

Dan: Oh, right, okay, quite choppy. So,

Sidey: Quite, so That's like a

semi, I

Dan: Yeah, yeah, take that.

Sidey: If you want to skip all the bullshit he steps out onto the wire at one minute at one hour and 30 which I would advise you to do because it's shite.

Reegs: I think the problem is the movie, I think, made him feel a bit insufferable. Well, he's a French juggling mime

Dan: Well, in, in the film, to be honest, it came over a few times how difficult he was how selfish he was, even to the people that were in his in his team. But remember we watched Free Solo, the guy who

climbed up. You have seen

1. The, the guy who climbed up

Reegs: he was very much driven like that as well. This

Dan: He

Reegs: just driven up there, he

Dan: yeah.

Reegs: even climb, yeah.

Dan: Subaru no, it was Land Rover. But he climbed up with no ropes to go up El Capitan or some crazy ass cliff. And why do people do it? You say it's selfish or whatever. Why does anybody go to Everest or, why does anybody do anything dangerous?

Sidey: Don't do

Dan: thrill, for the excitement.

He didn't even see it as that. It was like a, a real, you know, rush to go out there.

It's a calling,

Reegs: was a spiritual thing for him. Yeah, but just also that thing that humans, you know, just because they can.

Dan: Well, I enjoyed the film and I thought, I enjoyed the story, I'd say, more than the film, maybe.

I do get some of the, the the little parts, but it didn't It didn't put me off because I just enjoyed the fact that This was in association with this guy. So it was as true as You're gonna get he was a bit of an asshole. They didn't shy away from that They did go on to it. But as you say you need that edge if you're gonna be that kind of guy who's gonna risk his life or and and climb or walk or Anything else So strong recommend

Sidey: Oh. Huge

Fx: Mhm.

Dan: Wow, okay, we're into the dream zone now

Sidey: Mighty Mouse. And the Magician.

Dan: Yes.

the kids choice

Sidey: this is a Terry Tunes? Yes. 1948, this

Reegs: 1948, this particular one. Yeah.

Sidey: this

had Huge,

huge Itchy Scratchy More so than

Tom Jerry.

Dan: Tom Jerry. Tom

Yeah.

Yeah. well, the animation though is far removed from from Itchy Scratchy. The animation was just breathtaking, really, you know, for the time.

Reegs: was good, yeah.

Dan: It

was so

Sidey: Yeah, obviously hand drawn.

Dan: drawn. Hand drawn, but, you know, detail and the shades and everything.

Yeah, really, really excellent.

Reegs: It did take me quite a while to realise that this was the same Mighty Mouse that I remembered from my youth

Sidey: I was waiting for the guy, the mouse doing the magic tricks

to become Mighty

Dan: Well, I thought it was as well actually, but this was a season one, episode one kind of thing, and it was Mighty Mouse and the Magician.

The Magician was another mouse who had a a few magic tricks and we'd

Sidey: in a magic shop? And all the neighborhood mice would come and sit on the windsill.

And he would put on a show.

of.

Reegs: He'd get like a, he was like a little budget magician he wouldn't even take like get produce a handkerchief out of nowhere and then a suit and then a top hat that he walks into with a goldfish

Dan: and then he

Reegs: that catches the attention of a passing cat. I didn't realize it was cat for quite a while, but

Dan: yeah and then it's these are

Reegs: all hell breaks

Dan: Six or seven minutes long and all hell breaks loose in a tom and jerry style

Reegs: There are three cats

Sidey: Yeah, and they discover a magic wand. Yes. Which Literal, has literal powers.

Dan: We can disappear them.

Sidey: them all invisible.

Reegs: Or make them more

Dan: more invisible. Which makes it a lot easier to catch the magic mouse.

Because up until that point, he's outwitted them. He's hidden around corners and Some

Yeah.

Sidey: that

Reegs: and reappear.

Sidey: outwitted

them and

Dan: Yeah,

Sidey: Yeah,

Reegs: Yeah. They're Yeah.

Dan: and putting them in a bin.

It sparkles hell

Reegs: it says it sparkles help in fireworks, doesn't it? And to the sound of really a spitfire

Dan: a narrator comes over doesn't it at some point, if it's not this point, he says, who will save our

Reegs: here I come to save the day. Is what I remember him saying, but I don't think he does. He say it in

Dan: Here I come to save the day!

Sidey: think he

Dan: Yeah that's the theme tune. You're singing it in your head if

Reegs: Superpowered mouse in a sort of yellow,

Sidey: yellow overalls with red

Reegs: leaves very little to the imagination.

Dan: banana man type thing.

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: And he caped

Sidey: Yeah. He comes down and he falls foul of the invisibility at the start of the

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah. The invisible cats have got the

Sidey: a few walls, and things like that

Dan: lamppost bends

Reegs: ray vision to locate them and then he gets, he breaks the magic wand and then beats them to

Dan: Well, he, he pun, he pun, he punches one of the cats and still with his x-ray vision, you can see the bones just collapsing in inside the cat.

Sidey: innards. But I think, you know, the irony is that you're enjoying this violence, but what really, the reality is that you would want The cats to catch the mice. that was your

Dan: We say the vermin, it all comes out right at the end, doesn't it?

You can

Sidey: rooting for the wrong person. in this story.

Dan: The little guy. That's what I guess it is, but there are

Reegs: didn't see it that way and they you know after he flings them away using a sort of electricity

Sidey: Yeah, he punches them up onto the, like, telegraph wires, and then

kind of like

Dan: Slingshots it,

Reegs: them.

Sidey: out of screen.

Reegs: Yeah, and then he's given a medal

Dan: And, and mice are literally everywhere all over the city.

Reegs: the city. That's a later episode.

Dan: And, you know, there was a lot of booze involved as well. But that's a later episode. This one was still in his kind of chirpier days. This was

Reegs: Did you know that? No. No. Yeah. It was actually, the original idea was by an animator called Isadore Klein at Terrytoons. And they wanted to do, yeah, and they wanted to do a Superman character but making it a fly.

Sidey: Okay,

like the fly.

Reegs: the fly and then eventually somebody said make it a mouse and then there was a lot of this it had 80 episodes in its first run which went from 1942 I think to 1960 and then it was rebooted and redone a number of times including when we saw it from I think in it would have been an 80s show

Sidey: Yeah, I didn't remember it being this old.

to

Reegs: no because it had a really good theme tune can we put the theme tune in

Sidey: in?

No.

Reegs: yeah, it kept going and going and going

Sidey: That's a lot, because this is all obviously,

hand

drawn,

know, hard yards.

yeah? This is not a computer generator. just churn 'em out. This made with

Dan: with love. No, this, this gave me the animation of, of like, Snow White or something like that.

You know, it was,

Sidey: as that,

but it's

Dan: it was, it was right up there though, as far as they're doing, throwing these out. Yeah. You know, weekly or

Sidey: six minutes as well. Yeah. So, it's quite brisk. So,

Dan: if you wanna see that kind of animation and these kind of hijink stories, then you can see them all on Netflix these, these days.

Sidey: just to

throw it

Dan: Not Netflix, YouTube.

Sidey: my daughter would get nothing out of this.

I don't think she'd be into this at all. She'd, because it.

is old fashioned. And

Reegs: Oh, and the quality, in terms of the audio,

Sidey: wouldn't

Dan: bit of a shock. Like, in a, like, Fritzl Dungeon.

Sidey: like in like Fritzl Dungeon, they'd be banged off

Dan: done that. No, I

Sidey: my daughter,

Reegs: would

Sidey: no, I let her out more frequently than that and I

think this just start, it would be too dated for the younger generation.

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Well maybe, but maybe, maybe it I dunno when it was last rebooted, but like I say, it's been done a few times, so it's obviously enduring this

Sidey: super animal.

Dan: Well, mice seem to get a real, you know, you've got Danger Mouse.

Sidey: Well, it's a subversion of normally the little weak things that you

Dan: and yeah, yeah.

Sidey: know, making them strong.

Reegs: Mickey Mouse is a mouse as well.

Dan: Mighty Mouse. Well, let's let's just walk through the end.

Sidey: Next week, I think Peter's back.

Peter's away skiing at the moment in Manchester. But he, he has

Reegs: And nailing a prozzie, wasn't it? Somebody said, but

Sidey: No, I think that was one of his kids. But I think that he did confirm

that he's going to be here next week and with nominations. Well, hopefully he'll nominate them before we get to

Dan: because we're going to need to I know he's going to do his I

Sidey: I was thinking about a return to cheese

Reegs: to cheese

Sidey: So I don't know what they are, nomination wise, but we will

have something. of Course. we

Dan: Well, it's been another strong week.

Sidey: How do you feel about sound effects

Reegs: I don't like them.

Dan: No.

I don't

think they're gonna come back quite the frequencies as, as today, but who knows? I was arrested for drinking battery acid. So I wasn't charged.

Reegs: Very

good, very

Sidey: Right, all that remains is to say Sidey signing

Reegs: Reegs is gone.

Dan: Dan's gone.