The Intern & Dan Vs.

The Intern

Reegs: Welcome to Bad Dad's Film Review, the podcast where a bunch of guys who had to give up their precious hobby while their ankle biters ruled the roost finally managed to escape the soft play and gather together once a week to give their unfiltered and mostly unwanted thoughts on a movie we missed while we were exiled from the cinema.

According to recent research I just made up, more than 100% of people have tattoos these days, which means there's a decent share of our audience who have adorned themselves with ink. So before I go on this next bit, just remember that I am not tattooist. I have many friends who have tattoos, would let a person with a tattoo share water with me, or not sit in a different part of the bus, etc, etc.

But let's be honest, the vast, vast majority of tattoos are shit. Aren't they? Really. Honestly, from permanent pop culture references which scream here's what I liked 10 years ago to declaring your undying love for someone by etching your name on their bicep like a romantic version of prison tagging to the profound wisdom of permanently etching live, laugh, love onto your ribcage like a permanent reminder to stay basic.

Or to those who ink themselves with phrases in foreign languages they don't even understand, and are just as likely to read Beef Stir Fry as they are Spiritual Enlightenment. Then there's the awkwardness of explaining your tattoo to people. This one? Oh, it symbolises my sense of whimsy and my inner child's love for marine life. I know what you're thinking. Settle down, Grandad. And of course, body art can be genuinely beautiful and meaningful, like a work of art on the canvas of your body, but even the most profound tattoos can't escape the ravages of time. Ahem. Dan, for instance, had a majestic dragon emblazoned across his back. A few decades down the road, it's more like a geriatric monitor lizard.

Dan: Tattooed to be good, to be true.

Reegs: Anyway, we're going to start things off today with the top five tattoos. Before we're going to delve into the heartwarming Robert De Niro flick, The Intern, what with the long hours, low pay, no sleep, and too much coffee, it's pretty hard to distinguish that between internship and parenting anyway.

And finally, because Dan was seemingly unable to think of a single children's television program anywhere in the world, we'll be looking at the animation series, Dan vs. Which I'd originally planned to use in my Dan themed week which have included Top 5 Dans, the Sidney Lumet movie, Daniel, and the 1941 classic, The Devil and Daniel Webster, but unfortunately, that's now all ruined, so we'll never do that, so...

Sidey: Top 5 Simons then.

Reegs: Heh heh, never mind, all it's... Oh my god, no, that's really bad. No,

Dan: Simon's,

Reegs: no, I don't want that.

Sidey: that.

Dan: Left

Reegs: All that's left to do is introduce the dads. Obviously we've got Dan here, as we've mentioned. We also have Saidi, who this week conducted an ill fated experiment with experimental laxatives, unintentionally causing a small scale seismic event known locally as the turdquake, which was fun, wasn't it, for everyone

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: And then there's me, Riggs. Hello. Hi.

Dan: mate.

Reegs: Have you actually got tattoos? I don't know whether you've got any tattoos, have you?

Dan: I'm tattoo less.

Reegs: You do, but if Pete was here, so we're 50 50 tattoos, aren't

Sidey: Yeah, Pete's got quite a lot of tattoos. Pete's fairly relaxed about getting tattoos. He let someone drunkenly tattoo, do their first tattoo on him.

And it's not, it's like big, it's his like leg.

Reegs: And it's not, it's difficult to understand that, really, isn't it?

Let's be honest.

Dan: The things you do when you're young, you know.

Sidey: Yeah, it's pretty relaxed about it. Yeah, I've got tattoo. I do think about getting more expensive. One of our friends from footies unbelievably talented tattoo artist as it happens. Ash Lewis, look him up on Instagram. And he would, he would fit me in. But it's just like, you know, competing. for my disposable

Reegs: Yeah. They are expensive, aren't

Sidey: Oh, really expensive. You know, if you want to get, if you want to get something permanent, you probably want to pay someone who's good at it and that, you know, they should be paid appropriately. So, yeah.

Dan: Yeah, it's going to be there for a while. I know somebody got an abacus on them. You could always count on them.

Sidey: can always count on them. Dan, did you watch anything good this week?

Dan: I watched a few things this week. I watched the guardians of the galaxy.

Sidey: The third one. Third one. It's good

Dan: Yeah, that was that I did. I did enjoy it. It was, yeah, I mean, as these things go at the end, you know, they often go off a little bit, but I really enjoyed the whole series of those. I watched Warrior.

Which,

yeah, will be one of my my theme films later.

But yeah. Remind me how, how good actually that film was because I had seen it before a long time. And I did it, I did a couple other movies as well, which just the, the late night kind of sports movie thing. So I was quite involved this week. Yeah.

Sidey: How about you Riggs?

Reegs: Well, we finished off the Hillsong thing that I was talking about. We've been on a documentary tip, I guess, this because we watched one on Netflix about a female underwater ice diver.

You get how far she can go

Sidey: That sounds unbelievably reckless.

Reegs: Yeah, and she broke not only the women's world record, but the men's world record as well. For, so it's like how far, 103 meters in a single breath in the sort of cold lakes

Dan: the

people's record holder now then? Yeah, she's, yeah. Wow. How long, how far?

Reegs: record holder now. Yeah. Wow, 103 meters. Wow. Yeah.

Yeah.

Dan: In cold water

Reegs: been very cold today. I mean the ice is like this thick and for those of you who are only listening, I mean this

Dan: wow, that is, that's pretty thick.

Sidey: than that. I watched Senna, which I had seen before, but it popped up on Prime. So I thought I'd give that a whirl. Which is excellent. And we watched, basically everyone at work, certainly in my team, was talking about Wolf on, BBC.

I don't know if you're familiar with that.

Dan: No, I'm not. It's

Sidey: I'm not. It's from the creators of Sherlock and other things. And it's kind of serial killery kind of thing. And I thought, I don't know if I trust everyone at work yet. So I asked my mother because she enjoys murders and she said that it was really good.

She really did enjoy it. She like binged it in a day, I think. But she said there are quite a lot of Welsh people in it. She's not fucking

Dan: I like the welsh.

No, it

Sidey: she followed up with saying that they're second to the jocks, which she really fucking hates them.

Dan: Wow

Sidey: but she still managed to find a strong recommending amongst all her

Reegs: Hatred of the other

Dan: Okay. So if you can part with the welsh and the scottish then give wolf a go is it?

Sidey: So I watched episode one and it was quite good. It was very BBC ish. It had all the kind of hallmarks of being a BBC thing. But what it did do so it had a kind of... Set up a few cliffhanger things and then at the end, I'm not seeing them do this before on BBC. It previewed episode two and just like

Reegs: paid them all

Sidey: Yeah, just like shattered all of those like, oh, is it? Isn't it? No, you know, I'm I've been I've been assured that that doesn't happen in future episodes that was pretty annoying

Dan: Okay.

Reegs: pretty annoying.

Sidey: Yeah. So, but I think I will. There's only six episodes. So, I'll persevere with it. I think.

Reegs: What, what's the wolf content in it?

Sidey: There was zero wolves in the episode that we watched but it's sets up a serial killer who's either come back or someone who is copying a serial killer and...

Reegs: is a Alexander Scars guard in it.

'cause he is obsessed with wolves.

Sidey: in it? Literal Wolves,

Yeah,

no, but it does have Ramsey Bolton in it, so, as a villain, so good villain

Dan: Yeah,

Oh, he still gives me the spooks.

Yeah.

Sidey: gave me high hopes, so I will stick with it, yeah.

I think we covered off all of last week's NOMs, didn't we?

Reegs: we can't just not... We couldn't have... We've never had a top four before. Could we do that? Is that even allowed?

Dan: I

don't

Sidey: It's definitely not allowed. We've got loads of grief. No, that was before.

Dan: Cause now it's, it's all off Twitter. I mean, if you worked for Twitter before, are you, are you an ex employee now? Is, I don't know. I don't know how these things work.

Sidey: Last week's norms, It was jokers. If you remember what? So Andy Jameson was talking about Revenge of the Sith. J Bevis, the fault in our stars which I think was a cancer one.

We had some more love for Green Mile.

Dan: What was those two? What was that film? There were, there was the girl and the boy lived on Houseboats together. They drifted apart. Um.

Sidey: So, I think we should put in...

Reegs: Revenge of the

Sidey: I was going to say, Revenge of the Sith never gets any love, so let's put that

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Well, it's getting love.

Sidey: From Sith Love to Tattoo Love. Yeah. Riggs obviously... Now his colors to the mast in the intro there?

Reegs: no, honestly, it was just, I

Sidey: just for loss.

So I'm, I'm kind of concerned that we might all cover off the same stuff, but then I was thinking re is normally pretty good with some niche horror kind of content.

So let's see how we get on. We'll see how we get on. Dan

Dan: Yeah, on the face of it, this is a, a fairly easy one to just think off the top of your head, which kind of films. The first one that came into my mind was De Niro, Cape Fear. I think it was the, it was back in the days where, when you had tattoos, You were a villain, you know, you were one of those that straightaway pointed you out.

And I mean, that's going right back into sort of sailor days and everything, I guess.

Sidey: I think in some cultures, certainly in Japan, I think there's still it's closely tied in with Yakuza stuff. And there are places that if you've got a tattoo, you're not, you can't go in because you'll just be associated with bad boys for life, yo.

So it's still a thing.

Dan: Yeah,

Yeah. And well, De Niro's character in this, he's, he's a nasty bit of work, he's he's I think escaped from prison or has just been let out of prison and he's on the prowl again, Juliette Lewis is kind of in a breakout role in this movie and finds themselves on the, on the houseboat where they kind of, Escape from or, or get into and, and try to escape from.

Yeah. It was this was one I watched with my folks, I remember, and it was just probably a little bit before I was actually officially allowed to, to watch these films at least by the certificate. But

Sidey: I haven't seen this one, but I know Pete is a big, big

Dan: Yeah, it was,

Sidey: Pete, he would, he would be pulling for this one

Dan: hard because Yeah.

Well, de Niro put in a big performance in this one. It was scary as fuck.

It is, yeah.

Sidey: And also, there's a great Simpsons episode of it

Dan: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.

Sidey: Rhys?

Reegs: Well, probably the first one I thought of, and it's going to make me sound like a sort of Nolan esque film bro fanboy,

Sidey: Yeah, it's the first one I thought of as well.

Reegs: Pearce's character in that is an amnesiac who has the plot tattooed all over his

Dan: that's it, it's a plot device, his

Sidey: Yeah, because there's often, you know, characters with memorable tattoos, but this is...

Reegs: The plot is literally his body, his body

Sidey: I think the one across his chest says, find him and kill him or something,

Reegs: and it says John G. raped and killed my wife is on there,

Dan: So, so there's a man who keeps losing his memory,

Reegs: Well he has retrograde amnesia, so he has the inability to create new memories. From and his memories

Sidey: So, he could

Reegs: nine minutes at a time or

Sidey: chasing someone and then forget. if he's being chased or doing the chasing and stuff like that

Dan: Right,

okay.

Reegs: or doing a chase scene, something like that, so, right, okay. only in the last frame of the movie, which is actually the beginning of the movie.

Do you understand why any of this is happening? And it is related to the plot the, the plot that's written on his body. Very clever. If you haven't seen it,

Dan: An early Nolan one, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, well, how early was it, do

Reegs: Very early. Probably the, one of the earliest.

Dan: If

Sidey: do you listen back to a podcast a few months ago, I support it. Which is quite good fun. Yeah, for Chris, we've never seen it.

Dan: Okay,

Reegs: Yeah. Oh yeah. I remember that.

Sidey: Yeah, so that was good. One of the other ones where tattoos are more than just decoration is Maui in Moana. You've not seen that,

Dan: not seen that, have you? I've still not seen Moana,

Sidey: So Maui is

Reegs: Dan.

Sidey: it's really good. It's really good. Maui is played by the rock and he's a demigod. He has some great musical numbers. He's sort of set the plot in motion but he's not the villain but he's a bit of a bit naughty at the start because he's trying to take the

thing,

Reegs: a thing of Nefertiti or

Sidey: The Tafiti. Yeah. It's the MacGuffin.

He's stolen it but he set the whole thing in motion. And he has these tribal what's the area? I want to say

Reegs: Polynesia, I think is the,

Sidey: Which they would do to decorate themselves to depict various events and what have you, but his actually are animated and come to life and kind of argue with him and point at him and and chastise him.

Reegs: of course, is heavily tattooed as

Sidey: into all of that. If you ever see his Instagram posts, he uses that kind of language that they use and all that. He's very into the. the spiritual side of it but his tattoos in the film kind of chastise him and, and they show his journey throughout the movie and so they're, they're quite key in the plot.

It's really, we should definitely nominate it Dag because it's excellent, it really is excellent.

Reegs: Dave because it's

excellent, it really is excellent.

Yeah, mostly mostly tattoos you know.

Junkies. Yeah.

Dan: And it's again, kind of this Polynesian style where they're tribal or cultural tattoos call me Ishmael Moby Dick.

One of the old classic films which. I grew up on really, you know, seeing it was around Christmas time or around those Holidays school holidays said they'd put on this. And it's such a fantastic film Moby Dick the original full technicolor And you've got This one character called, and I'm going to get his name wrong it's Kwee Kwee Kwee Kwee Kweek That's right.

I told you I'd get it wrong. And he's the harpooner and he's got mad tattoos everywhere It was just one of those

Really strange looking characters you think's gonna be a villain, but he's actually not it's just you know, he's nice as pie but because he has Sort of so many tattoos and

Sidey: He's putting out the vibe

Dan: he's putting out that vibe.

Yeah.

Reegs: Well, somebody else who was putting out that vibe was Viggo Mortensen in Eastern Promises. It was a movie that you talked about on the pod. I don't know why we didn't do top

Sidey: five. Is it the Naked Fight?

Reegs: sauna scenes. But yeah, it's a Cronenberg

Sidey: Koen Berg is, yeah.

Reegs: joint. And he plays a sort of infiltrator to the Russian mob, Nikolai Luzhin.

And he has his body adorned with all of the, and they did. a huge amount of research into the

Sidey: Oh, right. Okay.

Reegs: that you're supposed to have if you were Right, you know because there is like literally Code, if you like,

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: on your body and what you can access

Sidey: right. It's currency.

Reegs: yeah, essentially. So, yeah, he is heavily tattooed in that and obviously has the bollock naked thing, which is also pretty good.

Do you remember red dragon? Did you see that one?

Sidey: see that one, yeah, I've got it on here.

Reegs: Francis dollar hide.

Sidey: His is, again, it's, it's plot central because it's the transformation thing. He

Reegs: goes to see, I think, the original Bacon thing and eats it. Right. Because he gets, remember, he gets some time alone in with it and eats it, he consumes it. And he's got a tattoo on his back of I've got it here, the William Blake painting the Great Red Dragon and the Woman Clothed in the Sun. And later, he'll stage macabre scenes with corpses where he puts shattered bits of mirror in their eyes so when he takes photos of them they still look alive.

Dan: clever Photographer's tricks.

Sidey: That's nice,

Reegs: isn't it? Yeah.

Yeah, this was a good topic, wasn't it? There was quite a few.

Sidey: So he, so Dollar Hyde is the one in Red Dragon which is a prequel, who's then... Is he not in the head in the jar in Science of the Lambs, in the lock up?

Reegs: Is he amazing? Yeah.

Sidey: Well, I'm saying is it?

Reegs: That would be great.

Sidey: I thought it was but it could be wrong.

Reegs: That would be

Sidey: That would be worth knowing. Everyone has a thing for fancy dress around the time of Harley Quinn as Margot Robbie is Harley Quinn of course. I think you see her tattoos best though in Birds of Prey but there's you see them all because She's fairly scantily clad, shall we say, in the first Suicide Squad movie.

So she's got...

Reegs: going to talk about Joker, but I

Sidey: I was going to talk about Joker, but I just didn't want to talk about Jared Leto.

Reegs: Joker. He's got

Sidey: He's got the laugh, he's got the smile across his torso and loads of bats on his shoulder, I think.

Reegs: shocking bad design, isn't he? I mean, you don't want to pile in on something that everybody universally agrees is shit,

Sidey: But there's a reason that they do, I think. He doesn't make it. Any more challenging to wade in

Reegs: But you're right, they sought it out for Birds of Prey.

Sidey: She's got a heart on her cheek, but then underneath I think it says damaged or rotten. It says rotten and then she's got damaged somewhere else and she's got pudding and other things.

But she's obviously fucking double hard as well. Re watched The Suicide Squad. So the second go at it, that was really good. And she's great in that. Not seen Barbie yet, but that's done a billion. Did you see that? It's up to a bill. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Dan: Bloody hell, there's Barbie too, get ready. One Is

Reegs: female director then to have made a billion dollars.

Oh, fucking

Sidey: After that trash lady, but it's amazing, isn't it?

Dan: made

Reegs: Oh, see guys, were so wrong about that, man. I want you to go back and watch it

Sidey: I'm just trolling you now. Dan.

Dan: Well, I'd mentioned warrior earlier, full of tattoos that, but another one that I really liked and we watched for the pod. And it was when a tattoo kind of meant something and you know that when they're, they kind of just catch a glimpse of the tattoo or something and it means something within the plot.

Well, You have it in the Matrix, when you've got the little

Reegs: Follow the White Rabbit.

Follow

Dan: the white rabbit or whatever, but the one that I was thinking of was Nobody, where he just kinda has that tattoo, and there's one guy in the, in the porn shop where he's going in to ask questions, he recognizes the tattoo, and he's like, Oh, and he, he goes into this kind of, shuts everything down, thanks him

Reegs: in The Simpsons with Moe, when he goes behind the thing,

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Reegs: the doors and

Dan: That's it, all these kind of little safe room came in where it was just, and he just locked himself out there, there's a little mirror, window where he's just peeping through. And all the other guys in the room are going, Why the fuck has he just done that? And he's seen this tattoo that says this guy's a triple hard bastard.

And I like that. I like that part where, you know, the tattoo could just lead to another another part, another scene. So that was another one. I've got a couple more,

Reegs: I've got billions more. This was really good. Yeah. Dude. Where's my car? Have you seen

Dan: Yeah, I

Sidey: know the scene.

Dan: but I don't, I

Reegs: It's like a riff on you is who is it at boat in Costello?

Is it the way basically he's

Dan: Aston Kutcher in someone

Reegs: Yes. Josh Hartner. And he's the other one. Sean Williams. Scott

Dan: Is it?

Sidey: Yeah, yeah,

Reegs: And

He's got dude on his back and the other guy's got sweet on his back and he's like what does mine say? Dude, what does mine say?

Sidey: I think Breachy's a fan of that.

Reegs: It's yeah, bullshit. And more bullshit is did you ever see Paul Blart Mall Cop?

Yes. That, did you?

Sidey: Wow.

Dan: this with Sonny. It was I remember he chose it and I

Sidey: Kevin James.

Dan: Oh, really?

Reegs: basically Die Hard,

Dan: wasn't it wasn't as bad as as you might have thought, like when I'd geared myself up for something really bad. But this was

Sidey: I was just about to say, I could put on any like Kevin James film and watch it. And what's the one with Will Smith? Where he is like the matchmaker dude.

Yeah. Yeah. I honestly watch it every day's like complete trash for I could just watch,

Dan: just, just makes you lol. Spreads

Sidey: after happiness.

Reegs: honestly can't say every day. It's complete trash talk. Yeah. It's nothing at all. It's nothing after on his back I think. Similarly good was That's My Boy an Adam Sandler and Andy Samberg one. Did you see that?

Sidey: No, but I know the words for The Mansion, isn't it?

Reegs: It's great, man. It really makes you, like, laugh about sexual assault because It's basically, the story is that Sandler, in the beginning, is a 12 year old.

He doesn't actually play the 12 year old. But the story sets up that he's basically fucked his teacher. And had a kid at 12 and every, and it's like brilliant cause she's hot. And so everybody's like, yeah, well done. But, and then anyway, his kid grows up to be a celebrity while he's a washout. And so he's, there's the PIP comedy

Dan: I've never heard of that film.

Reegs: set up.

He, his kid is called Han Solo. And he has a tattoo of the new kids on the block

Dan: N K O T B. Yeah,

Reegs: I bought their album.

Sidey: Yeah, I bought their album. Did you? Yeah. Wow. Revelation.

Reegs: I was hanging tough.

Sidey: Okay, so Han Solo, well that segues into mine, which I'm assuming is a tattoo, although I don't know that this is ever confirmed. Going back to the prequels, obviously the Superior Trilogy, as we know Darth Maul. His red and black

Dan: Oh yeah, he's...

Sidey: it, that's my question.

Is that, is that just his species is colored that way, like a red Admiral Butterfly, or is, is that some sort of...

Dan: I don't

Reegs: you're a nerd and you are listening, maybe you could let us know.

Dan: you could let us know? Yeah, no, we'll let us know. There was the, talking of face tattoos, Hangover, we had, we came out with a big one there, didn't we,

Sidey: It was the Tyson.

One

Dan: of those where you wake up drunk

Sidey: Ed Helms has

Dan: Tattoos.

I get is

Sidey: I think the, it's two, isn't it? Because the first one I get is the tooth. And the second

Dan: And the second is the face, yeah, they've, they've, up there.

Sidey: It, hang on, who does the tattoo? Is it Liam Neeson?

Dan: sure, it might

be.

Sidey: go.

Dan: There you go. Confirmed.

Reegs: Salander,

Dan: That

was my other one that I really wanted to put in

Sidey: Well, she has, character, but she does tattooing in the movie and probably in the

Dan: Yeah. Well, she tattoos. I'm a rapist or something on. Yeah, I'm a racist pig on on some guys chest. Her her parole officer. Yeah. And her guardian.

Reegs: with like a spiked dildo or something?

Dan: Well she's, she does, yeah. Yeah. She, she carries out revenge big

Sidey: So, pleasure pain.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: both. I've read the book and listened to the audio book and I've seen the films and they're all really, really good and it's just such a fantastic character.

Sidey: I was so deflated at the end because I hadn't read the book or seen anything and when I was off ill, I watched because it's on Netflix, the, the Daniel Craig version.

Reegs: good innit?

Sidey: It's the end, when she goes to give him the jacket she had made and he's just off with Robin Wright Penn, you're like, oh, yeah.

Reegs: Wow. that's real life for you side. I know.

Sidey: right.

Reegs: Mm-hmm. Well, the Gift, did anyone see that one? It was a Sam Raey sort of horror thing with Kate Blanchard. It was written by Billy Bob Thornton based on the sort of alleged psychic experiences that his own mother had.

And it's Kate Blanche. It is Annie, and she's like, got e s p and psychic Abilities and Works on a. But sort of, series of cases with the local police. It's got a character in it, Giovanni Ribisi, who is in Friends. But in this he plays Buddy Cole, who's like a sort of very mentally unstable neighbor who, he keeps talking about the blue diamond, the blue diamond, everything will be all right if you look at the blue diamond, it's terrible because it turns out he's been sexually abused and the blue diamond is a tattoo on his father's, like, above his belly button.

That yeah, where you can piece together. Yeah. So, yeah, that's a memorable tattoo in a movie. It's got Keanu Reeves in it. So, maybe a few more laughs in it. Probably should try and lighten the

Dan: the

Reegs: mood a little bit. How about Johnny English?

Dan: Has he got a tattoo johnny

Reegs: No, but the plot revolves archbishop of Canterbury and the, the sort of guy that's the looky likey of it has, something, a tattoo on his bottom saying Jesus is coming, look busy. So, that's the gangster that they swap him with.

Dan: there. There's always in films, not always, but lots of the time you have the, the tattoo, they catch a little glimpse of, you know, and that's the bit that

Sidey: that's, that's clear. I

Dan: identify that person. It's just an amateur. If you're gonna be a criminal, I guess it's best not to have

Sidey: Well, speaking of criminals, Dan, you know, I like to keep the Simpsons content going week by week.

Marge in Chains is. Season 4 episode 21 when Marge goes to prison and one of the inmates in prison is a lady who's covered in tattoos and Marge points her out and her cellmate says, Oh, that's I think she's called tattooed Annie and she takes off her top to reveal her back and it's a huge graphic piece.

And it's got the face from Mad Magazine.

Dan: Ah, yeah.

Sidey: And it says, What kind of slime would I marry? And then when she flexes and puts her back together, it all comes together and you get the face of the Mad Magazine. And it just says, Me What me worry? So that was quite good. It's a bit of Simpsons content.

And...

Reegs: the Phrase of Bad magazine as well.

Sidey: Is it?

What

Reegs: me worry Alfred E. Newman.

Sidey: Right, okay. And Buffy, Angel has a tattoo, it's not particularly memorable it is a large tattoo behind his right shoulder with a winged lion with an A beneath it, but I just couldn't let another week go by without mentioning Buffy, yeah.

Dan: That's fair enough well, Kevin Costner should get a shout as well, with Waterworld because it's another one of those tattoos that mean

Reegs: Yeah, she, she, she's got a tramp stamp that's like a map to where civilization

Dan: Yeah, that's right. So, we reviewed that, so if people wanna hear more about that one but that's pretty much me.

I, well

Reegs: Go on. Pick your favorite movie tattoo.

Dan: it would be the De Niro one for me, just because it was the first one I thought of when. This topic came up on our chat and I really just loved that character. He was a really scary full on character. And particularly with the age, I haven't seen it maybe since those days.

So it'd be worth me looking back if somebody nominates it one time, but he'll go in for me.

Sidey: I'm going to put in Seth Gekko actually from Dust or Dawn because his looks a little bit like mine. Yeah. He's got a tribal thing on.

Reegs: comes all the way up his

Sidey: it's a lot better than mine, I have to say, but you know, me and Clooney really kind of separated birth.

Did you see the flash, the whole

Reegs: I've, I've seen it, yeah. I didn't think it was quite as bad as everybody said. I, all the

Sidey: It was okay. It was fairly, it was turd, but at the end, I said, I didn't know that bit was going to

Reegs: No, I didn't,

Sidey: George, George Clooney comes back as Batman.

Well, that was Bruce Wayne.

But I don't think they're gonna keep that on. I wish they would.

Dan: I don't think that ever happened.

Reegs: Yeah, Wait, he's, fucked everything

Sidey: he's reset the universe and then fixed it.

Reegs: Time operates on a fulcrum, which was an interesting idea.

Sidey: Or a bowl of spaghetti.

Dan: idea.

Sidey: Not really.

Reegs: Yeah.

it's

better than Black Adam.

Sidey: silly throwaway fun, but,

Dan: not a classic. Right,

Reegs: we'll do a pod on it

Dan: Well,

Sidey: Riggs, what are you putting in?

Reegs: I'm putting in Snake Plissken's Dick Cobra. If you think about it, there's the scene of him in Escape from L. A. I think it is, where he's at

Sidey: the...

Reegs: set in Los Angeles? Yes, and where you're going. I'm going there. And he's got a full tattoo of a big cobra on his chest, and you don't see, but obviously, you can see where it would continue to, so yeah, that dick cobra is my favourite tattoo.

Dan: favorite.

Okay, De Niro

Sidey: Okay, cuz I was gonna say Yeah, cuz we did have some interweb nominations I was gonna say we we could put that in as Pete because he definitely would but anyway Anyhow, we had some other ones Joe Bevis

Reegs: actually let's

Sidey: Mentioned let's go back to start Seth Vargas Harry Powell's knuckles from night of the hunter

Reegs: Robert Mitchum.

Sidey: classic love hate Tattoo, that's really good

Dan: I would always put in the Moby Dick one, Kwee Kwee, Kwee

Sidey: don't you do that? And Pete's

Dan: why

Sidey: default would be that one. Andy Connolly's put in dude, where's my car.

Reegs: Oh yeah, good shout Andy.

Sidey: Joe Bevis has mentioned Pete's leg tattoo and girl with a dragon tattoo. Christian Benter, who I'm sure everyone would love to know, is on the mend. So that's good news, isn't it? He mentioned John Wick.

He does have a lot of tattoos, John Wick. And the Mike Tyson tattoo and the hangover.

Reegs: They're also quite thematically important as well because he's got a big,

Sidey: they're also quite thematically Prison Break. Because that Oh yeah, of course! Was straight up trash, but he has the prison schematics tattooed on his body.

Reegs: And, Panya Yim

Sidey: And, Panya Yim Pum Fai, in the movie A Prayer Before Dawn. Has to be number one, I don't know that one. I know the movie,

Reegs: Before Dawn, has

Sidey: it.

Mel she's going for Robert De Niro and Cape Fear as well. No Regrets from We're the Millers.

Oh yeah, sorry.

Reegs: Guy Pierce's memento Ed

Sidey: Guy Pearce and Memento. Ed Helms with a Mike Tyson tattoo.

Yeah.

Andy Jameson, Sons of Anarchy. There is lots of ink in that. And Happy is an actual tattoo artist which comes in handy when he covers up Clay's patch. And James said he's going to get Pete's tattoo on his leg as well.

Reegs: Could you probably post

Sidey: we should probably post a photo of Pete's leg tattoo since it's been covered in so much detail tonight.

Reegs: tonight?

Sidey: Bad tattoos. Yeah, so out of that lot, I think Hangover's been mentioned a few times. Actually, no, what was the one I said was good?

Well, Mitchum

Reegs: Well, the Robert Mitchum one,

Sidey: Yes, I do like that one. It's because he's actually got the photo of it as well. I love, hate, the Robert Mitchum one. Yeah, Night of the Hunter. Boom. Boom. Hate that

Dan: Boom. Babe.

That was a good choice. We've got the Malm super mix in there.

Sidey: there.

That was the sweet selection, yeah. It's the Maum Maumix. Haribo, Sugar High.

Dan: Yeah, we are all high on sugar. There are some mixed nuts and raisins there. Should we want to go healthy?

Sidey: Yeah, well, that'll be once the sugar is gone. And that segues very nicely into this week's movie, which was De Niro's career defining role in The Intern

Dan: De Niro's career defining role in The Intern. That's it. This is where he really made his name. This is before then, there was they hadn't really, he, he, a lot of people were on the fence. Could it really make the grade? But then he, he did this. I actually chose this because I thought it would be I wanted something a little more.

Well, I wanted something touching, but not like last week's

Sidey: was a lot of touching in

Dan: Yeah not that same kind of stuff. I wanted this to be the levers in a good, warm and,

Reegs: Something a little uplifting, casts humanity in a nice light, something like

Dan: a lighting casts a nice light, something like that. Exactly, something in, rousing, inspiring and uplifting.

Well, let's

Sidey: see if that was a successful pick then, shall

Dan: Let's see, and let's see if we can speak in good.

Sidey: Yes. Okay. Very good.

Reegs: No,

Sidey: no fail. Yeah, this is De Niro as titular intern. I think we get a little, basically start off with a montage of his,

Reegs: he's doing a, a video to camera because he he's

Sidey: he's a widower.

He's

retired.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: 70 years old.

Sidey: Didn't relate to this at all. Because the thing that he's trying to get across is that he's done a million different things since he retired.

He's on his own, but he's unfulfilled and something's missing from his life. I've tried golf, I've tried Mandarin, I've tried this. I was thinking. I would be completely fine, absolutely 100% fine,

Dan: Yeah tomorrow, Well,

Sidey: working, never going

Dan: he's he's traveled the world

Sidey: absolutely fine, not a problem, would be completely

Dan: Frank's not like you or I to be fair because I would be similar to you. I'm quite happy to keep yourself busy

But Frank gets back after all these trips and experiences and things homes empty There's nothing going on and he wants something a little more fulfilling

Sidey: years of age. Yeah. He, so yes, you're right. He still feels like he has something to offer.

He's also got sort of... Unrequited interest from a lady on the, the block who looks like a Burns victim.

Reegs: She's

Sidey: And he's not so keen. He's just like, it's,

Dan: He's polite but firm.

Reegs: he is fairly firm. Yeah, it's not

Dan: We're gonna do it again and he's like, you know, putting it off and saying, Oh, we'll have to, you know, maybe one

Sidey: gentle in this all the way through.

Reegs: extremely well put. Yeah, we haven't really made that clear, impeccably all the, all the time. His manner, he's like a sort of,

Sidey: pyjamas as well, so he knows shit

Dan: He's, he's an old school gentleman who has been married.

Sidey: Check out this drip!

Reegs: drip.

Dan: Check out his drip. It is dripping. Was it he's Batman. But he's now then looking for this opportunity, which he sees.

Sidey: It's when he has that interaction with the burns victim that he finds, or there's a note,

Dan: I'm not sure she is a burns victim, but yeah. Okay.

Sidey: The lady that he's talking to, he's, the reason that he's stopped there is because he's found the flyer So, for some reason, a business that operates in a tech industry, which is web only, and

Reegs: Well, they're trying to reach, they're trying to reach a particular

Sidey: trying

Reegs: though, aren't they?

So they're trying to, the target audience is senior, cause it's an internship for senior citizens. Come along, you know, you'd still got something of value to add to the community and it's exactly what I was going to call him Jack, but what is his name? Ben.

It's Ben It's exactly what Ben is looking for.

He's looking to feel fulfilled again, and maybe he can find that in the workforce.

Sidey: Yeah, so like you say, this is what this video, this thing is, he's,

Reegs: source is montage. The whole thing has been this video thing, his application to demonstrate that he can upload you know, so that he, he can

Dan: taken. They can see him, they can hear him, and he can upload this video application, which he does do.

And he's granted an interview. It's

Yeah.

Sidey: he's granted

an interview.

10 year

Reegs: up and there's like a guy on he's got like breathing apparatus or something, like carrying his oxygen tubes. He's a bit like

Sidey: yeah, so there's an interview with various 12 year olds

Reegs: Right, these three characters were basically indistinguishable, sort of three man children.

Oh, well, there was, that's

Sidey: the one was a lady.

Dan: And yeah, they're the young staff. They're the young staff in this tech company who are interviewing these different candidates and as it comes through towards the end he's sailed through they all like him.

He's had a a good answer for everyone. He's answered

Things relatively well. And out of all these

Reegs: these people,

They ask him where do you see yourself in 10 years time? It's

Dan: And he goes son, I'm 70. And they, yeah,

Reegs: it's clear they don't really know what to do with him. And he's obviously massively overqualified to do literally anything they

Sidey: can Yeah.

Him to. And they say that to me, well, you're really over. It's like, look, I'm not, you know, here to take over the world. I just probably. Can help you with a few things, but really just want to, you know, have a routine again and

Reegs: he sets up with the other interns by his desk, and they get their iPad out or whatever. And he gets out, like, his clock, and his pen,

Sidey: He's got his, well I've got the contents of his attache briefcase. Do you want to know what it was?

Dan: So yeah. At, at this stage then he has been,

Reegs: I've his attaché to hear about the briefcase

Dan: Yeah, no, I'm just saying leading up to this. He has been granted the internship. He's, he wins

Sidey: well that was a bit of luck because it would have been a short movie.

Dan: Yeah. Otherwise it's all over.

Sidey: His briefcase contains one calculator, two glasses cases, a small face clock, even though he wears a watch, a leather pen holder, I have one of those, a date book, a notebook, a journal, and a small pack of tissues, which he probably would have needed when he

Reegs: when In the erection scene, yeah, when René Rousseau turns up. What we haven't talked about as well is the other sort of main character in this who we see doing customer support at the beginning of this.

This is Anne Hathaway's character J Jules?

Dan: some lady we'll call her Jane, has About to get married at the weekend and the dresses have turned up.

They're the wrong color, in the wrong size, everything's wrong. And and Hathaway's character has,

Sidey: Yeah, because there's like a bank of customer support people and she's on the end answering this call. And so you think, Oh, well, she's just

Dan: one of them, one

Sidey: well, cause I didn't know anything about the film and that she's one of them. And then you see her then in a kind of boardroom.

Reegs: Well, she's really good on that call, though. She's at

Dan: she amazing. Customer

Reegs: service. I'll make sure here's my phone number. It will happen. We'll get this sorted and it will come through at the end. And yeah, it's a good little moment to show because like you say, you don't realize she's customer service.

She actually owns this massive tech

Sidey: organization. Yeah, because then, then she's, she's, like, over someone's shoulders.

They're working on the website. At this point, I wanted to napalm the whole fucking site because everyone was 12 and they were all super brilliant. Yeah. And it was really irritating.

Dan: she'd come from one side of the building and cycled through.

Yeah.

Sidey: she cycles around to save time.

Dan: to

Reegs: I didn't like the bike. The bike annoyed me, but I've got to get over that sort of stuff. It's

Dan: It's so eccentric and,

Reegs: accessible,

Sidey: But she, that's the only kind of hipstery thing she does. The rest of the time, she's just busy at work. And so the guys like, I need you to sign on this like two weeks ago. And so they just like flip some images around and it takes one nanosecond to like, get the website perfect.

And she's been. Relying on her second in command, who is a person whose name escapes me Cameron, is it?

Reegs: Andrew Reynolds is the

Sidey: the actor.

Yeah, it's Cameron. And he says, remember when we, we talked about doing this intern program? It's like, no, we never spoke about it. He's like, well, anyway

Dan: It's happening. He's

Sidey: Robert De Niro, so you better fucking do what you're told.

And he is assigned to her, and she...

Reegs: she's... She

Sidey: a nice person... Well, see, at this point...

Reegs: I

was

where I thought they were going to

Sidey: lot need the So I was still at the point where I thought they were going to try and set her up to be a complete bitch.

And then you get this bit where he goes to her

PA...

who again has paper everywhere in this height anyway and she says, well your meeting's at... Five to three and he's like, okay, he's like, but you have to be sharp because he's got a meeting at three He's like, oh fuck and she hates people who don't blink

Reegs: So

Sidey: he goes in and she just says look I won't have anything for you to do So you might as well just fucking quit or just go and sit out there But you know, we can find you another position.

He's like that's fine, you know And she says well, you know don't expect to be like, you know rushed off your feet. Oh, I'll probably just forget you even here

Yeah.

You know, and he, he just sort of like, okay. So at this point I was thinking, God, like, is it gonna be like Devil Wears Prada basically, but she's the,

the boss and

Dan: Prada, basically, but she's the, the boss. Terrible desk, like everybody's got in their office at one place where people just pile shit all the time. And that's

Sidey: just Why couldn't they just,

Dan: caught her eye a little bit.

But that kind of rumbles on. And yeah, the first meeting is, is a little bit dismissive of him. And,

Sidey: She just doesn't think he's going to be a good fit. The whole thing, ironically, is about the fit. So it's an online presence. There's no bricks and mortar shop.

Reegs: It's about fashion, delivering

Sidey: but it's ladies

Reegs: Ladies fashion

yeah, and she's built

Sidey: So she looks, she's looking at this 70 year old guy. He's very old fashioned in the way that because they're all dressed cash. He's the only one in a suit. They make a big point of highlighting that to you. It's just like, well, he's not, it's not going to work. He's doesn't, it's not relatable to what we do here.

But of course there's more to it than

Reegs: there is that.

yeah, there is. There is. Well, she's going to ignore him for a sort of few days, but he's going to nonetheless kind of get a bit productive and busy just making minor changes,

Sidey: mostly with the, the other interns

Reegs: getting to know the other interns, slowly starting to help them with their private lives as well.

Cause he's sort of like a magical genie who sprinkles goodness

Sidey: It's like the only adult male role model that any of these people have ever seen. Yeah. And so, and the one, the You'd

Reegs: You'd have wanted him to be your dad a bit though, wouldn't

Sidey: dad a bit though, wouldn't you? No,

to be

fair

Reegs: fairly blunt. All of the, all of the male characters are really interchangeable, that they're just people who wear sort of plaid shirts and have like crazy hair and glasses. And yeah, they're all man children. I guess that's kind of the point. Yes.

Sidey: yeah, they're man children,

Reegs: But

Sidey: that's kind of the point. Her business, rather, because she set this up, they have expanded and grown and been so successful so quickly that it's kind of become a monster that they can't manage on their own.

And the

investors... Well, the implication

Reegs: is that she, she can't manage.

She's built it all up and well, that's how she feels about it, that

Sidey: Yeah, she says it a few times, yeah.

Reegs: there is a bit of a moment where she is vulnerable and she cries. It's not, you know, it's not

Sidey: She gets, she gets shit at drop off for being a busy working mum and she's like, well, fucking hell, women

Dan: you need

Sidey: But she gets shit from other women, which is what I think what really

Reegs: yeah. That was

Sidey: and so the, the, what is happening is that the investors have said, you need to get in a proper CEO who's experienced, who's done this stuff before to run the company and you can just be there to

Dan: to... Do what you do best, you know, the creative

Sidey: and so she has a shortlist of candidates that she needs to go and meet to assess and see who's right for the role whilst.

Reegs: and also feeling like why, why does she have to give it up as well? Like there's that element to it as well, because she, one

Dan: there's that why is because her family life is becoming pressured and we meet her, her husband a little bit later on. This is, I think, just after or, or just, no, just before he, he spots the, her driver having a drink.

Sidey: Yes. So that's the, so the key thing that happens to, to really like kick

Dan: big plot moment,

Reegs: Well, hang on. The biggest plot thing we haven't talked about.

'cause he does tidy a desk and that gets him noticed.

Sidey: Yeah. The whole desk thing I thought was such a strange plot device. 'cause anyone at any point could have just tidied a desk

Reegs: And she was cl she was quite vocal about how that desk in the window 'cause anyone anyway.

Sidey: Well we have it. We have, and you probably do as well, we have a tidy desk policy at work and so that never would happen. But yes, De Niro is looking out the window because he's got fuck all else to do and he spots her driver taking a swig out of I think he's brown paper bag. I thought it was a hip flask at first, but either way, he's boozing whilst

Reegs: he's boozing

Sidey: cool. And so he goes down and he's like, listen, fuckface you ain't driving

Dan: Well, he does it.

He even delivers that in quite a nice way. He gives this guy a chance to say, look, say you're ill. You're not feeling very well. Or I'm going to have to say something and this guy leaves it to the last minute. He puts her in the car and then he looks over at De Niro. He looks back in the car and says, look, sorry,

Sidey: he looks over and he thinks that's Jimmy the Gent I've fucking seen him in action

Dan: Yeah. And and then. Suddenly, he becomes the driver who's then taking her home, meeting the, the

Reegs: Well, she tells him

anything is that I say in here is confidential. And then she takes like a heartbreaking call from her mother who's just kind of really horrible And

Sidey: She, well, she gives him shit about going the wrong way, and he's like, no, no, I used to be a taxi driver, lol. And,

Reegs: I enjoyed that

Sidey: Yeah, I liked that as well and... They get to where they're going at 12 minutes. They said it'll be 12 minutes quicker than yours. And they pull up and she's like, fuck. He was right. And she apologizes. And then he starts to,

taking

Dan: her to that,

Sidey: he, he sees her in the warehouse.

Dan: In the warehouse, working with the warehouse operatives, telling her exactly how the boxes should be packed, delivered before they go out.

And That moment, that moment,

Reegs: knows the whole industry top to bottom.

Dan: And that moment kind of comes up a little bit later on towards the end as well. But he, he then kind of drops her back to

Sidey: Well, he is been invited into the, yeah, he's been invited, you know, into the house and he's gets on very well with her daughter.

He, the, he's such a beautiful that.

Dan: amazing.

Sidey: Yeah, her husband's making him coffee in the morning. And so she's like happy with this routine. She wants him to drive every day and he does for a couple of days. But at the same time, she's like, he's just, she's a bit conflicted. And she texts Cameron saying he's too observant.

He notices everything. And so she still, I don't think she was 100% set on it, but she sends the message saying, you know, you need to transfer him somewhere else. And so when She's thinking about it. She's like, actually, no, he was really good. He, he was actually helping me. And the next day, he's been transferred.

And she's like, fuck, I've made a mistake there. So she's quick to realize that. And so she tracks down where he, and he's just like, doing coffee runs now.

Reegs: Oh, well, also he's getting involved in a romantic subplot with the

Sidey: House Masseuse. House

Reegs: masseuse, Rene Russo, smoking hot, I don't know. And she and De Niro have chemistry. He pops an awkward bon off

Dan: Well, this is his reward for tidying the desk. They ring a bell when anything's good done in the office, they'll ring a bell. And that's how he meets Rena Russo, who slips her card into his pocket afterwards. And yeah, she, she kind of rubs down a little bit

Sidey: very forward.

Dan: Yeah, a little bit further than, and, and more in his leg than he, he expects.

And yeah. It's, it's a

Reegs: De Niro wasn't the only one getting a chubby I can see, Dan.

Dan: Yeah. He

Sidey: There's more hilarity

Dan: a, a paper, isn't he? Just to cover over his boner.

Sidey: Yeah, he goes to see her later on and there's a mix up where someone walks in and thinks that he's getting a blurry but it's not, he's just having a foot massage, but the angle, it's hilarious.

Yeah, that's good.

So, I think there's a just a late night where he's got nowhere else to be. So, he's sort of tapping away at his laptop and Anne Hathaway is doing her thing and she's kind of looks at him. It's like they're both there. So, she takes over

Reegs: pizza and a beer in it.

Sidey: Do you want to just, you know, have a slice and they get to chatting and he tells her that actually this building where they're based, he used to work there for 40 odd years in the phone directory

Dan: a printer, it was a printer business.

Yeah.

Sidey: she's...

Dan: Yeah. And And, then you go, you know, the little dip over there, that's because that's where the printing machines were. And he knows all these little kind of stories of the building.

Sidey: So she, she's really impressed by that and they start to build up this relationship then where he's a kind of confidant.

Reegs: she makes him a Facebook account.

Sidey: Yes. Yeah. You need to get involved. Yeah. And

they are friends, they're not just business colleagues. She becomes, she comes to rely on him, like, completely. Well,

Reegs: except because immediately after this really touching night that they've had, exchanged things, because there's been a lot of stuff talking, you know, coded stuff about dreams and, you know, how, the pressure she's under and the sacrifices she has to make and that sort of thing.

And The next day, obviously, it's kicked in the order that he's not to work for her anymore, and the woman who was in CAPACS that we talked about, Doris, another one of the elderly interns, sort of

Sidey: of time. She's not quite as good at driving as Robert De Niro. 10 minutes

Reegs: driving.

Dan: Yeah,

Reegs: And Doris

Dan: nearly has a couple of crashes within just pulling out. She does

Sidey: driving. Yeah, that's why he's doing the coffee run stuff, isn't it? And she's like, I've made a huge mistake. You know, would you be willing to come and work for me again?

Reegs: She talks about feeling calmer in his presence, which basically that's what he does going out.

He glides through.

Sidey: He's just like Yoda in

Reegs: oa. Yeah, it's an

Dan: Well, there's a couple of big meetings coming up, one of them's, she's got to fly out, and around this time he has been asked to look after the little girl, by the little girl, around the breakfast table, because dad's ill, mum's got

Reegs: We haven't really talked about their dynamic.

So he has had a marketing career the husband which he's kind of was also had he was also building a career and he gave it up You know, in a sort of progressive partnership for him to father the children while she gets to build her business.

Sidey: hours

Reegs: But also, I mean, she is shown to be, when she can be home, she is fully involved as a mother.

Sidey: I

Reegs: I think it's all happened really quickly

Sidey: 18 months that she's been doing

Reegs: so it's kind of, she's had an idea, it's like the idea that it's just come out of her, you know, basement basically and suddenly it's just within 18 months it's this enormous thing, the challenges and choices you'd have to make, especially when your children are young,

Dan: That's it, yeah, so he, he then takes her to a birthday party that she promised She would go to and and De Niro is going to take her. So he, he takes her mom's gone to work. Dad's ill at home, but the party doesn't go as expected because she decides that she doesn't really want to be there.

She's not feeling a hundred percent and

Reegs: maybe got the same thing as daddy.

Dan: Yeah, maybe, maybe. And it was like, oh, well, let's, let's go back. So they circle back home. And just as they do this, they're playing a little game of, oh, I spy or something like that

And De Niro spots dad coming down the stairs jumping into a car kissing a woman and driving off and well, you know, this is this is a shocker then he he's left with having seen this and He's ready to go to san francisco the next day or

Sidey: 'cause he's, he's going off with Jules to the next interview.

Dan: That's right, because for one reason or another this illness I think has meant that he's going to do all this on this day.

And he's got the time and he's happy to do it. He wants to stay involved, but now he's, he's kind of holding this secret as well.

Sidey: He's conflicted about whether he's gonna have to say something

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: There's also been a scene where

Reegs: Are we getting to the laptop high scene? Yeah. Can we get to that? The, this was a weird

Dan: this was,

Sidey: Are we getting to the incongruous with the rest of the movie. She sends, so she's

had these conversations with her mother. And then she's gonna email like a ranty kind of thing about she's a piece of shit. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Which she mistakenly...

Reegs: she's gonna send it to Matt, her husband, but she sends it to mom. They're right next to each other in the phone.

They shut off.

Sidey: Yeah. Ouch. And it's one of those where you click send and you instantly realize, oh

Dan: realise, oh fuck Starts walking through the office. She's been that busy and she takes a few steps through and checks her phone And yeah, she's just panicking and De Niro goes When he goes back to her previous character,

Reegs: was going to say, he goes full casino really, doesn't he?

Dan: And he just says what we got to do is they're all coming out with these mad ideas of breaking into servers and all the rest of it is why don't we just break into a house take the computer

Sidey: delete the email, and

Dan: delete the email and Done. Brilliant.

Sidey: Just a bit of, just a bit of

Dan: So...

Reegs: a bit of breaking an

Dan: That's all it is. Bring the

Sidey: So

they've set him up to be like the ultimate gen this wise. You know, father figure character and then he just encourages them all to fucking break the law at like, I don't know.

It's weird.

Reegs: Yeah, this was a genuinely bizarre scene, really, I felt. And then they do have the heist which is full of sort of comic stuff.

Dan: Yeah, there's, there's a fake alarm, which turns out to be a real alarm.

Hilarity ensues. They jump into the car with the alarms blaring out, grab the computer. They've managed to pull it off and delete the, the right email. And they go back for a high jinx drinking session.

Sidey: Yeah, double tequilas all round, yeah.

Dan: she doesn't last long though.

Sidey: They do that kind of American thing about You know, you've had one drink, isn't that enough? And you're like, fuck off, let her get pissed if she wants to get pissed.

Anyway,

Dan: yeah, one more anyway, she's

Sidey: I would say she's vomiting they...

Reegs: to say, she's vomiting everywhere, so maybe they knew.

Dan: they were

Sidey: Yeah yeah, so there's more of that stuff. But then they do go on this trip. They get back into the CEO chase and

Comes to a head because watch telly together in the hotel room whilst they're away. And she's about to say... About her husband's infidelity, she's known because she saw some messages and De Niro confirms it and she's like, fuck, I thought it might have stopped, you know, but it's still going

Dan: saw him yesterday.

Sidey: still going on. And so she's devastated, but she's really committed to it and kind of plays herself as being the cause of it by being so busy.

Reegs: blames herself.

Sidey: And there's like, no, it's fucking nothing to

Dan: well he's, he's kind of from more of the old school where he'd be like, there's no coming back

Sidey: from, yeah.

So why would you wanna be with this guy?

Dan: she's very much more of, it's way more complicated than that and

Sidey: maybe if I can get the c e thing, we can go back to the way we

Dan: then we can, we can do

Sidey: is very naive.

Dan: she goes then the next day to meet the c e o. Already upset and everything, but when she comes back, she's, for the first time, shoulders are back. She's striding forward and she's really pleased. You can tell with that conversation. And she thinks that she's found the right c e o and she offered him the job there.

Sidey: Yeah, the guy's like, why don't you think about it? It's like, she's like, Nani, I think you're the right fit, so let's not waste any time, let's just get

Dan: with it.

Reegs: it. He, he asked the right questions, didn't he?

Because he basically. He

Nothing,

Sidey: find out what works. Yeah.

Reegs: He'd like, it's a successful business. I want to carry that on.

Dan: And, yeah, so he said all the right things. De Niro's, though, still saying, Look, you should be doing this

Sidey: He's like, I saw you at The Warehouse and how you gave a shit about that and all the other stuff and you built this and your idea. You shouldn't just fucking give it up and you shouldn't think that if you give it up, everything's gonna be fucking perfect.

The home, you know, it's, it's not like that. Yeah. Mean meanwhile, he's moved in half of the business into his apartment. His

Reegs: apartment is absolutely banging as well. He's got, like, a dresser room,

Sidey: he? He's got the automatic tie. I was, I was gonna get, start wearing ties again.

Reegs: That, he looks so rad.

Sidey: I didn't describe that very well but he presses a button in his walk in wardrobe and he has an automated thing where, like sushi but for ties, where it just goes round on a conveyor.

Yeah, it was really cool.

Dan: It was

Reegs: And all these pocket squares and

Sidey: and handkerchiefs. He does this big thing about explaining about the, about... They're going, you know, this, it's like, look, you just, you wear the suit, you know, you look, you feel professional, blah, blah, but the, but the, the handkerchief, you know, that's the one thing that's like a throwback to, you know, chivalry and that you wear, you carry that so that you can lend it out to the lady when she needs it.

That's why you carry that.

Reegs: And he does it. He lends it to

Sidey: Yeah. And all the guys start to smart enough and look like, you know. Men, not fucking idiots.

Reegs: one of them puts a girl's blouse on, I think at one point

Sidey: he's, he thinks he's gonna deliver something to Jay-Z. Yeah. The potential new owner of Tottenham Hot Spur. And he says he's just wearing some shit T-shirt or whatever he is like go.

And that rag is clearly all women's clothing. Yeah. Put on a boyfriend shirt, tuck it in, fucking go and do your thing

Reegs: What is a boyfriend shirt?

Sidey: I think it's what girls wear. It looks like a man's shirt, but it's like styles for women.

Reegs: Okay.

Sidey: But same, they do have the same with jeans, don't they, the baggy sort of fit jeans.

Boyfriend jeans. Yep.

Dan: jeans. Boyfriend jeans. News to me, but yeah there is a moment where one of them is wearing that to dress to impress.

Sidey: Then the husband rocks up and just thinking about it now Irritates me so the husband Who's like complete drip like so fucking wishy washy Just gives her the heart to heart about how he's a fuck up and he's like really ashamed of himself and blah blah And she shouldn't give up the business And to fix whatever's going on with them and I think it has this heart to heart and I was like, fuck you you

Reegs: is the, I don't know what the movie is trying to say about

Sidey: Well, at the end of the movie, everything is the same. Nothing

Reegs: up everything. I guess it's about, you know, them finding their way through indel fidelity, which is more common than people

Sidey: But that only cropped up like the last third of the movie. Yeah,

Dan: it was a late, late kind of shout

Reegs: it was a late, late kind of show. They are two idiots who haven't learned how to

communicate

with each other. They've been fighting, it's been

Sidey: They are two idiots who haven't learned how to communicate with each other. So they've had a fight and it's been unresolved for ages.

Yeah. So there's that about them learning how to communicate in their relationship. There's other people just trying to get him to fucking grow up.

Reegs: Yeah. And there were

Sidey: Niro finding love

Reegs: Niro's competency and his love and all that sort of stuff, but yeah, that is it. It, the resolution is,

Oh, I bet we do,

Dan: can continue to, to, to be useful because Daniero, he comes in a couple of times, he, he's got some as, as the trust in him. He's been giving more complex work to do and he seems to be knocking out in the park. He, he goes into one meeting, I'll get you those numbers and if we tried it like this, maybe.

And, and suddenly they're,

Sidey: but he's really good with that. He, he makes sure that Becky, I think Becky's the real put upon.

She's just doing a kind of PA role, but she's a business. She has a business degree. That's right. And she's very just skilled and he makes pains to point out that the report that he's done that wows everyone they worked in together. And actually Becky did a lot of the work and he's very generous like that.

But ultimately when the movie finishes, 'cause that's basically where we've got to. Yeah. Nothing has

Reegs: Well he goes off, well he goes back to doing Tai Chi at the beginning because he's done that bit and he's off to find something else to do. Sprinkle his

Sidey: Because what happens is she guns the CEO guy, she decides that this doesn't want to do that So she's going to carry on and presumably still be busy as fuck

Reegs: I hope she would, I did hope, if they were going to talk about leadership, promoting from within is a strong theme that I really like in real life. So, how about, you know, that would have been a good theme that they could have put in yeah, maybe that's where she'll go, that she had good people around her, but she's going to step

Dan: Well, she seems in a better place, I think through the influence of De Niro being there. I think, you know, the, the message that she, she was you know, this, this dynamic and successful c e o but maybe had stopped her, appreciate little things in life and extra to appreciate people and was heading along that path, whereas him with his years of experience had had kind of.

been able and she says it a few times just to calm things down and bring that kind of zen into her life And and so yeah, I think that

you know,

the message really was is something for people who may be At that age where they've just finished work of suddenly Feel that they've got nothing less left to offer.

Sidey: Do you feel like

Dan: think that's well, you know, it's Often yeah, but know

Reegs: carried on working

Dan: oh, I've yeah Exactly, you know still trying to feel useful in this case he, he knocked it out the park. I like this movie. I, I, it was particularly after I think the harrowing viewing from last week. It was, it was somewhere where it was just a nice safe

Reegs: and uplifting and gentle and it

Dan: gentle. There was no real kind of

Sidey: De Niro was really good, really watchful, actually Anne Hathaway's character was, was good and I enjoyed her.

Reegs: All of her stuff was good, wasn't it? But it was,

Sidey: It was a bit, I didn't

Reegs: on laughs, wasn't it?

Sidey: It was two hours long, which is probably a little bit unnecessary. I didn't really, like, you really, I'm not sure what the, Like at the end of it, I'm like, it's the same.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: I don't know what...

But she knows her husband's cheating on her.

I don't know. Weird. But I did enjoy it. But there

Dan: I I thought they were it in the

Sidey: and her

business. I thought they were going to make him the CEO. Like, her, the CEO, but with him guiding her through it or something, but didn't even do that.

I

Reegs: I'd really strongly hoped right at the beginning that they were going to fuck, but that

Sidey: No, as soon as Renée Rousseau was in, I only had eyes for her.

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah. I did enjoy all that. It was like you say, uplifting after last week's thing. So you all the stuff about the usefulness of, of

Sidey: Fuck that, euthanize them.

Reegs: really heartbreaking decisions that, you know, Women are faced with in business and home life and that sort of thing. But yeah, a little bit light on

Dan: Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't a

Reegs: movie I've ever seen.

Dan: wasn't a hugely serious film.

Reegs: like no

Sidey: in Brooklyn as well.

Reegs: Yeah, in Britain. So it was like not a single black person or Asian person in this movie.

Sidey: yeah,

Reegs: which is just weird, really, just, I don't have, you know, I'm not making a big thing about it, but it's just weird, it's Britain.

Dan: I mean, this, this was just a lighthearted

comedy

drama. I mean, you're looking for thrills and spills and big messages, then this isn't your film. But if you're just looking for something to just

Reegs: It's

Dan: gently wash over you, and it's, it's kind of almost a date movie kind of thing or something you could watch with your mom or something, you know, there's with the kids,

Sidey: a date movie with your mum, maybe.

Reegs: and your kids,

Sidey: your kids.

Dan: a family film.

Sidey: I think I might have watched the wrong episode of Danverses, but we can get into that.

Dan: Season 1,

Sidey: Well, I thought that was what I watched, but when I was doing notes, it turned out the one I watched was season one, episode two, but it was the first one that popped up. What was yours about?

Reegs: the wolf man.

Sidey: But

Dan: Yeah. But

Reegs: But there is another one. Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah, versus New Mexico or something. Yeah, which may

Reegs: have been aired first,

Sidey: Maybe that was a pilot. Okay, so we did watch the same one, cool.

Dan: Excellent. Yes, we're all on the same page. This was kind of a group nomination led by Riggs.

Sidey: What it is, is on Freevie, or something like that, which is a...

Like an Amazon Prime add on channel, which is free but has ads and it has a lot of those Certainly when I watched it It

Dan: well this this

Reegs: It was okay if you watched the version that was on Daily Motion.

Sidey: Okay, I didn't do

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Yeah, I mean this isn't really aimed at little kids is it

Sidey: No. No. Bigger kids. It's an

Reegs: I literally just typed the word Dan into Amazon Prime search thing because you were like, I can't be bothered to think of anything or something, and

Dan: I was slow to the

Reegs: propped up, and then it said it was about a guy who thought the whole world was against him and I was like, well that sounds like it is about you, so

Dan: rude. He's crude, he's scruffy.

Reegs: Got a t shirt that says jerk on

Dan: Yeah

Reegs: Which I would quite like a t shirt that said jerk on

Dan: Yeah, well,

we could, it could be a range of Yeah, we can, we can look out.

Sidey: Did you notice that the animation style was quite crude, I thought, but then I read about it and it was all flash animation.

Reegs: Was it? Yes. Oh, right, okay.

Sidey: It was

Reegs: It was a bit better than usual Flash animation then, because it had quite a distinctive sort of almost graffiti esque

Dan: sort of almost graffiti esque

Reegs: It starts off with him saying, I can't believe how much I hate everything, which is, you know, pretty, you can all relate to that. And then, in what's later revealed to be a dream sequence, Dan is sitting on his bed complaining about how he hates everyone. When it's like, Supermodel shows up at his door and she's

Sidey: She's propositioning him and almost forcing herself on him and then he wakes up

Reegs: he was really hot.

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like Jessica Rabbit kind of vibes. And he's got the alarm clock like pressed up to his face I think when he wakes up.

Reegs: unfortunately he was kissing the alarm clock. And when he goes down to go to work, I think he discovers, shockingly, that his car has been victim to a crime, it's been, it's got three, well, it's got three claw marks down it, he finds hair on it, and footprints leading away from it, and he realises, he deduces it must be a wolf man, he screams, and then

Dan: he, he quite,

Reegs: kick in,

Dan: quite quickly investigates this and, and finds it to be Yeah. The, the mythical wolf man.

Sidey: He's trying to explain it to his friend, who's a very well adjusted, like, married man?

Reegs: like, married man. He says, well, you just just do whatever Dan says. He's

Sidey: Yeah, she says, well, you just you just do whatever Dan says. And he's like, that's not true. But anyway, I've got to go because Dan said I have to be there right now.

And he's trying to explain the wolfman. And he's like, but...

it's

got trainers, like he's the footprints he points and he's like, yeah, but look at this picture of a wolf man. And it's just, you know, like a Michael Jackson sort of thing, you know, a guy trainers and he's like, it doesn't explain the thing.

And he's like demoing how it might run around and stuff like that. So he's absolutely convinced that

Dan: It's the wolf man. Yeah. Yeah. He's

Sidey: No doubt about

Dan: and he's he then goes to try to, to hunt it.

And he, he He makes this decision. He calls Chris out again from a nice evening at home where he's reading a book on toxic

Reegs: toxic, relationships.

Dan: And he's, he's called out again.

Reegs: He's eating all the Callow Halloween

Dan: That's right.

Reegs: she's, but Elise is like, yeah, can you please just fuck off before you eat everything before it even starts sort of thing.

Dan: And yeah, well, she was asking him look, if I bring out more candy can you guarantee me that it's not all going to be gone? And he's like, he gives it. Like we would all do there's no guarantees for that. It depends the candy you bring. I mean if it's good then no It's not going to be there.

Reegs: he goes off to visit Dan, who's like, yep, no, don't worry about it. Everything's sorted. The problem's all fine. And you hear like cries for help in the background. And then when he goes in, he sort of bursts through the door and Dan has tied up a local child who's been trick or treating

Dan: Yeah. In a Wolfman suit mask. Yeah.

Reegs: has strung him upside down in his kitchen.

Looks like he's going to beat a confession out of him, I

Dan: Yeah. It, it looked, it, it looks o t t in, in anybody's book.

Eventually the, the little Ladd is

Set free gives a a kick in the balls to chris on his way out He seems to be getting most of the stick actually from this little boy.

Reegs: And then Dan goes outside and does it again, immediately, with another child, exactly another one wearing a wolf mask.

And

Dan: Chris tells him this can't go on. And yeah, he he eventually has to wait until the next full moon

Reegs: they get arrested, don't they? Because he's got some brass knuckles that he won't be giving back. There's a really weird bit with he steals the officer's hat, doesn't he, and all that stuff. Yeah, some hijinks.

Sidey: But he can't, they can't do any more investigations until the next full moon, because we all know that's when the werewolf would appear.

Dan: And I...

Reegs: the next full moon, because we all know that's when the werewolf would appear. Yeah, and it's when they're driving home, isn't it? Don't they see him in And there's a, they've fashioned, they've smelted Chris's favourite coin.

Dan: Yeah. It's a family heirloom that again, he's been told to bring something silver. I

Sidey: the feeling he's the butt of all the things, in all the episodes probably.

Dan: And, and not just the butt. He, he's kind of really mistreated, isn't he? He's, he's he's abused really in, in this

Sidey: Hard to imagine why he would continue to be friends with this guy.

Dan: Yeah, it is. But he, he is, and he, he continues to be friends, so, and yeah, he eventually, this silver bullet finds its way,

Reegs: they have to get, there's a, they have to get a boat. Do you remember? They go off and go and

Dan: Oh, they go, they rob a grave

Reegs: dig, and they're chased by zombie skeletons. And then eventually anyway, they track down the wolf man. He fires the arrow at him, it, and they follow the blood trail home where he's just revealed to be a fat man.

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: And he's like, oh, they shot me. And then Chris is like, brilliant. We know where he is. Let's kill him. And he's like, you're fucking crazy. Are you? All he did was key my car. I'm just going to go and do the same. It's

Dan: That, that's it. So he, he's kind of given up two or three months of his life and so many evenings. He's, he's kind of been part of a kidnapping and and all this kind of stuff and chased after by these. These zombie skeletons. So he can go and give his car a key 'cause he finds out his room number and then goes down to the carport that, that has that.

And then when the , when the wolf man eventually does go and find the car, he, he doesn't he? He's like, no which goes to show that Dan was actually right. That really hurt him. Yeah. But Yeah, that was kind of the end of it then.

Reegs: yeah. And you assume he fights a monster of the week

Dan: Yeah, Dan versus something else

Reegs: The mummy, I guess? There's always something

Dan: against him.

Yeah.

it was It was off my radar, this. I'd never heard of it

Sidey: Well, I hadn't really heard of anyone that did any of the voice acting or it was all kind of new to me. But I thought it worked quite well.

It

Reegs: was alright. Yeah,

Dan: Yeah, it was interesting, another one of those, probably fit better with last week's episode actually, given the amount of happiness being spread in it,

Sidey: It's Emmy winning. This is one, one stuffed, one awards. Yeah, I think it looked pretty good the way it

Reegs: All just by typing your name

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: Amazon. You imagine if you'd done that.

Dan: No, I'll do, I'll try Simon.

Sidey: S i m o n.

Dan: I, I don't know. I wasn't in love with this. I thought it was okay. It was

short on laughs. I thought that was part of the problem. I think it was talking about bigger issues and you probably have to give it more episodes to get into to that and learn a little more about the characters and, and things.

But it wasn't something that I'll probably go back and watch a lot of. Although I did, you know, appreciate the, the, the animation and everything and yeah, one or two other kind of bits of the writing, but I wasn't really in love with this, to be honest.

Sidey: but I

wasn't really in love with this, to be honest. Stretches it

Dan: Yeah,

Reegs: now. Yeah.

I

Dan: Well I

just thought,

Sidey: out, doesn't it? I quite dozed off when we've gone

Reegs: we gone into?

Sidey: was still the, the well.

Dan: breaks in it.

And I

Sidey: And it was, but it was, honestly, there were about four or five ad breaks in it. Which was

Dan: which is

Sidey: But that hurt it, but other than the content itself, it was all right.

Dan: res and you, you felt

Reegs: Yeah. Well, it was all right. Well, it, yeah. I, I, I quite enjoyed it. I enjoyed the premise and yeah, the animation style was all right.

Yeah.

Dan: Okay.

Reegs: lukewarm. Recommend. Is that a thing that you

Sidey: you guys now? Yeah,

Dan: is,

yeah, that's the new, new words on the block. It's your,

Reegs: Yeah. Next week there could be some, there's shenanigans next week in terms of

Dan: It's not going to be

Reegs: are gonna be available. And

Dan: Maybe, because

Reegs: Yeah. It could be

Sidey: be. Maybe, because breaking news for us while we've been recording this was that William Friedkin has sadly passed away. Won't be breaking news when anyone hears this because it will be days and days later. But possibly, maybe we'll watch The Exorcist.

Dan: Well, maybe.

Well, maybe. Watch this space.

Sidey: Yeah, we shall see. All that remains for now is to say SIDEY SIDEY out.

Reegs: out. Reegs out.

Dan: Chris, we love you. Dan's gone.