Spare Parts & Sharkey and George

Spare Parts

Reegs: Welcome to Bad Dad's Film Review, and because we're recording the night before the US presidential election, but releasing this episode just after it, please allow me to say to our American listeners, thank God common sense and decency prevailed, slash what the hell did you maniacs do on every other country's behalf this week.

This week's lightbulb moment belongs to Dan, who very nearly served up an interesting innovation themed episode but then seemingly lost his mind, as we kick off our inventive escapades with Saidi and I talking about the top five inventions, whereas Dan will be talking about the top five fugitives for some reason.

Dan: Well, the reason is because we had the fugitive episode midweek and obviously there was a lot of chat on the phones and, and and then it was raining and and then the dog ate my homework and, you know, any of those.

Reegs: update my homework. Well,

Dan: Well, you

know, I'll keep that running later for you.

Reegs: and the genius doesn't stop there. As our local GE geriatric takes the unusual step of reviewing a movie, which is currently unavailable to stream in the uk.

The 2015 true story spare parts, an underdog sports movie where the sport is engineering and the social issues are as fiercely relative as ever. As we hurt towards the finish line, you might want to get the brain bleach ready as we tackle what might just be our biggest earworm yet. CSI for fish.

Sharky and George the crimebusters of the deep. Duh duh

Dan: Yeah, that's what that was. Okay.

Reegs: And all that's left to do is introduce this week's paternal prodigies, starting with Dan, who of course was around when Krog from Gawk accidentally invented fire. What a memorable week that was. Yeah. And last but not least, or in fact last, the man who has spent all week tinkering with his gadgets.

It's Sidey. And then there's me,

Sidey: Hello.

Do you recall last week's top five?

Reegs: Yes. Yeah.

Sidey: We've had some nominations. Yeah. Do you want me to tell you what they are? Mel.

Dan: I do.

Sidey: very kindly contributed after we, I think, gave Australia a bit of a hard time

Reegs: We,

often do, but we like Australia, don't

Sidey: She would like to nominate princess fiona and lord farquaad from the end of shrek Celebrity marriage marriages. They never last muriel's wedding. We didn't mention that which

Reegs: Yeah, and we did that as well.

Sidey: good

Dan: Love that

Sidey: My best friend's wedding. Did you even mention four weddings in

Reegs: We talked about Richard Curtis, I think, a little

Dan: bit. I don't think

Reegs: it didn't make the edit. It

Sidey: was going on for so long.

Dan: it went through my mind, if that's

Sidey: There's also a lot of weddings and she says she did like the Australian nostalgia of Neighbours. And then, Shat! He's come through with the Red Wedding we talked about. Mama Mia, Reeves favourite. The Halloween Store Zombie Wedding. Halloween Wedding Party gets Locked inside a Halloween store on Halloween night and faces the wrath of the return of the legendary possessed cowboy Olly Who means to make sure nobody gets out alive?

Sounds like a strong recommend

Dan: you was told as a child to go to bed, Yeah.

Sidey: So that was that

Reegs: No, thanks for this. What are we going to put in? All of them?

Sidey: like that last one.

Reegs: Yeah, what was it?

Sidey: Something about Halloween. Halloween store. Yeah.

Dan: Okay. Cowboys. Halloween. It's in.

Sidey: What about your viewing this week, Dan? Did you watch anything

Dan: did you watch anything? Yeah, I've actually started to watch two films this week, beyond the homework. One was called The Midas Man, which

is around Brian Epstein. The guy

Sidey: has he got an Island?

Oh, different. We'll go for a guy,

Dan: different guy. The guy that discovered the beatles And friend of the pod milo parker.

He's in that he plays his right hand man And that was good, but i'm watching that with the missus and It went on a bit late last night, so I've still got to catch up for the last half an hour of that. And then I started watching a film called Blackberry, and both of these might be future pod choices.

Sidey: about the phones, and that's about the, it's whats his face, Glen?

Dan: Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross. No.

Sidey: from, it's always Sunny,

Dan: Right. Okay. I didn't know the Yeah, I've seen the faces didn't know the names but I'm about 20 minutes 30 minutes from finishing that as well And I've enjoyed

Sidey: Yeah, looks like it'd be good fun, that

Dan: it was a good one. So what about yourself anything?

Reegs: no not really. I mean, I start a lot of stuff and then fall asleep.

I don't

Sidey: Yeah, I do that a lot.

Reegs: Yeah,

Dan: counts it's got to count

Sidey: I watched Deadpool and Wolverine do some stuff and four nights of just putting on falling asleep, putting on the next night, going back 10 minutes to where I probably was awake still. I think part of the reason for this, it was just so boring and just

Dan: Just A

Sidey: just jokes, you know, that they've done the

Reegs: okay. I think it's just done, isn't it? I think that's, it is just been done now. Let's, let's not have that

Dan: that. It'll probably But

Sidey: But it made a billion, so they will almost certainly have that again. I watched, I, no sorry, I didn't watch, but I put on Terrifier 3 and 30 seconds in, I was like, I'm out, no,

Reegs: 30 seconds.

Sidey: a child comes to the door of her parents bedroom. And it's like, Mommy, there's someone on the roof.

I was like, I'm

Dan: I'm out.

Oh,

Reegs: all right. Okay.

Sidey: was,

Reegs: I've seen the first two,

Sidey: I was up for the horrible grab, but it's the bit the expectation, you know, the, the off screen stuff, the waiting for it to happen. I was like, just show me the people getting mutilated. And I just

Reegs: oh, it wouldn't be long. I wouldn't have thought in that

Sidey: don't. Don't, so

Reegs: be a long time of watching people being carved up.

Sidey: Yeah. I was also on my own a bit scared,

Dan: I didn't want to put myself through anything like that,

Reegs: So next week terrify

then. Yeah,

Sidey: I'll do the trilogy. . Yeah.

Dan: So we've got top five, we've also got a very poor selection of snacks.

Sidey: Yeah, well We're trying to be healthy because this is like Silly season now where it's just going to be a lot of partying and boozing and eating crap So

Dan: As opposed to,

Sidey: do with We could probably do with winding it in a little bit.

Dan: Yeah, we had a couple of,

Sidey: we got really well I got really pissed last week doing

Dan: was quite, well, that might have been the three bottles of wine

Sidey: And a bottle of port yeah

Dan: mixed in with all the treats we had. We had cheese and biscuits. We had chocolate and crisps and sort of jelly sweets. It was,

Reegs: this week. We've got tea in nuts.

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: keeping it real.

Sidey: That's good.

Should we just crack on with the top fives? Yeah,

the

Reegs: Yeah, the top

Dan: say, some, some confusion, but let's go for it.

Reegs: So Dan, this was your week and you picked top five inventions in the, in the WhatsApp group, which Saidi and I did, and then you did top five fugitives. So why don't you start with your top five

Dan: Yeah, because this isn't going to make any sense in, unless you've already heard our fantastic fugitive episode. And what I can do to make up for this.

Slight mishap is, is giving my fugitive quiz.

Reegs: All

Sidey: Okay.

Reegs: Straight out the

Dan: we can do that. After we've heard a few more top fives, but I'm going to, I'm going to start with Logan's run from 1976. We've never done that for the pod. It was one of the films that I really just remember as a kid, really being like freaked out with these sci fi movies where basically you're living in a future world where. Life is brilliant. You can, sex and drugs and music and everything up until you're 30 then you're too old and they're gonna kill you. Play a game with you where you float up to the sky and explode a game. You can never win and everybody's too is it's like, I don't know. Like a big football pitch or big games, you know, everybody's watching and cheering and getting away with um Well, they're getting away with murder, but one guy goes on the run logan and he's a fugitive

Reegs: And

Dan: makes it through to the world outside.

Really You Clever. I know that they made it again. But it didn't really hit home the same way this did. So Logan's run. Have you seen it?

Reegs: Yeah, a long time ago. I couldn't say I remember a lot about it.

Sidey: about it. In favour of compulsory euthanasia, must say. Maybe not at 30, but 30's fine. 35,

Dan: 35

Sidey: there you go

Reegs: The Michael Bay movie, The Island, sort of borrowed quite heavily from it, didn't

Sidey: it?

it? was probably better.

Dan: Well, give us an invention.

Sidey: Okay, well there is a Simpsons for everything. Yeah. And there is an episode of Simpsons. It's called the Wizard of Evergreen Terrace. Do you remember that one? It was season 10, episode two. It's where Homer gets inspired by Thomas Edison. Okay. And so there's all sorts of things that Edison has invented, but Homer, on his quest to become an inventor comes up with various things, and two of my favourites in that episode, one of which is the make up shotgun,

Which

he blasts Smarge in the face with.

And she gets a bit put out by it and he says, sorry, it had it set to whore.

And then there's the, the everything's okay alarm, which just makes this hybrid squeal noise whilst

Reegs: okay It's a lot of seconds to tell you everything's okay. Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah. And then there's other things

Reegs: you can't, that's the beauty of it. You can't switch it off.

Sidey: And he gets the kids to just say a word. And it'll event that say points Lisa, she says automatic

Reegs: But,

Sidey: but And something about boogers as well, I don't know but yeah a real good one the whole whole entire episode devoted to inventions

Reegs: Yeah,

yeah, yeah. I like the, ooh, the point of view gun. In the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy you know, guns, I am generally against, I have to say and you shouldn't point them at people, but this one allows you to take on the perspective of the firer. And I think that is a very useful weapon that we could all use.

Sidey: Is American and she's married to an American guy and he post they posted and tagged her on Facebook with their three kids out in the

Reegs: Holding

Sidey: Shooting guns and all the young friends going. Yeah, brilliant. They won't be scared of anything and

Reegs: I have a similar contact like that as well.

Sidey: anyway, that's It's just culturally so different I

guess

Dan: just give them grenades?

Sidey: Yeah, just don't give

Dan: Why not?

Sidey: weaponry at all.

Just don't have guns.

Reegs: think of a single reason for a child to hold a firearm.

Sidey: of course because you're

Dan: a tank.

Sidey: Yeah.

Anyway, that's not what we're here for.

Dan: We'll catch me if you can. The story of Frank Abengale, which was played by Leo, Leonardo DiCaprio.

True story again of how this young lad had taken on the The identity of a pilot of a businessman of all kinds of different people in order to call him and the FBI was slowly closing in on him. He was a fugitive. He didn't invent anything. And my top five is, is feeling very lonely at the moment next to yours.

Back

Sidey: Back to the future. He the doc falls and bangs his head and when he comes around he's invented just has a very clear idea of the flux

Reegs: clear idea of

Sidey: which is what enables the delorean to time travel.

Reegs: the DeLorean to time

Sidey: And when marty goes back And goes into his house. He's got this sort of colander on his head with all kinds of circuitry go around and he's trying to read minds or something. And clearly at that point, none of his inventions, know, come to anything until the flux capacitor.

Reegs: the

Dan: Do you love a flux

Reegs: Yeah. Time travel was also featured heavily in the movie Primer, which I'm talking about on this before these two.

It's like a real lo fi type thing where these guys, these engineers and entrepreneurs are trying to do a project in their garage, and it's kind of to reduce the mass of things for transportation and using sort of room temperature semiconductors. And they sort of accidentally as a byproduct invent a sort of very crude form of time travel where within.

If you stay within this box for two hours, it allows you to go back exactly two hours in time. And it makes for a very elaborate and confusing plot by the

Dan: shot off a camcorder or something, isn't it? It's got that kind of look, a very low budget.

Reegs: it's not, yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's very low budget. I think it was about 15,

Sidey: doesn't really have a score or anything, does it? It's quite like Sparse when you're watching it.

Reegs: Yeah, and virtually impossible to follow the first time you watch it, I think. Only to go, wow, that was interesting.

Dan: And

what did the director do after this?

Reegs: Upstream Color and a couple of other movies that I can't think of off the top of my head.

That actually wasn't going to be my choice. My choice was going to be Gremlins. I know it's a movie that we talked about a lot, but the guy in it Billy Peltz's father, he is an inventor and he's got loads of great

Sidey: got the thing that he shows and it just like squirts toothpaste and stuff all over

Reegs: buddy, he's got like the shaving cream and toothpaste and it's going everywhere.

He's got the electric hammer. He's got the ultimate fly swatter. It's four fly swats attached to a. Drill but I think my favorite is definitely I've got a picture of it here. The pelzer egg smasher 5000. Do you remember this? Because they're always going wrong in his kitchen and he's like trying to make an omelet and this like chicken thing comes out Makes the squawking noise destroys all the eggs in the one go.

So yeah

Dan: Crack an invention. Well, I, I'm going to stop going along the invention route and I'm going to give you my, my quiz.

Sidey: Right, okay.

Dan: Okay. So have you got buzzers?

Sidey: Yeah. Buzz.

Dan: Nice. So I'm going to read out some names. You're going to buzz in and you're going to say either fugitive,

Reegs: or inventor

Dan: conservative

or detective.

Sidey: Right.

Reegs: Fugitive conservative or detective.

Dan: So I'm going to give you a name and these are true real life people. These are people who are either real conservatives, real fugitives on the run right now, maybe listening.

Who knows? And detectives who may or may not be fictional or real, but you may have heard of them. Okay, so I'm going to say. Alvin Scott actually a murderer you're way off Alvin

Sidey: It could be both.

Dan: a murderer. He's wanted. He's on the the

Sidey: Most wanted is he?

Dan: on FBI's most wanted

Reegs: Wow, what number is he at?

Dan: he's right up there in the top ten.

I

Sidey: think. Isn't he innocent until proven guilty?

Dan: No, he's done it. He's guilty. They want him So I'm gonna go now you see you one nil down here

Sidey: Well, no, it just with nil. Nil. Yeah. .

Dan: Eric Hoffa

Reegs: Conservative.

Dan: He is a conservative. He was also a philosopher.

Reegs: conservative philosopher.

Sidey: was gonna go because like jimmy

Dan: so you steaming ahead now, steaming ahead. Stanley Jackie.

Sidey: buzz detective

Dan: Wrong again. I'm afraid he is a conservative. He's also an activist.

Sidey: All right. Oh, he's that secret fourth option

Dan: Okay. Natalia Wolf.

Sidey: Buzz.

Fugitive.

Dan: She is a fugitive

Reegs: his buzzer is

Dan: Yeah, your buzzer is not working. Well, she's actually done for white collar crimes It's maybe fraud and things like that, but it's serious stuff and she's wanted there by the authorities We want to speak to you.

Please Natalia hand yourself in please

Miss Ali

Reegs: Detective.

Dan: It is a detective. It's part time professor of psychology and and huge in in Bengali language,

Sidey: All right, it's bigger than that.

Dan: Dinesh

Reegs: Conservative.

Dan: He's on fire now.

Sidey: run away with it now.

Dan: it. He's also an author and filmmaker. Yeah, well done. So we're down to 2 2 in my reckoning. I'm going to make this the decider.

Sidey: I at three one.

Dan: You had it at 3 1. Well, I've got you down to two and I'm the guy that matters. So, I tell you, it might go, it might go to a a play. It might go to a,

we'll see. We'll see

Lawrence William Fishman.

Reegs: Fishman.

Dan: And for the bonus point, could you give me the crime?

Sidey: blackmail.

Dan: The Urs have it. He did bugger it. No, he didn't. He, but he did murder someone. And and so you didn't get the extra point.

Reegs: So what does that make the

Dan: Well, it makes it really, really close. Are you saying it's two each? Are you happy with that?

Reegs: think so. No

Dan: what about Rim Jong Hock?

Sidey: Hmm.

Dan: Oh, okay. Right, go on. I'm gonna hear from you both.

Sidey: conservative.

Dan: You're going with the same thing. You're both wrong. It was cybercrimes. Fugitive.

Sidey: course. Tive,

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Chuck Dixon.

Reegs: That was

Sidey: has to be,

Reegs: He sounds like a detective

Dan: Well, I didn't hear the buzzer. I thought I'd taken your Conservative. But I didn't hear a buzzer. You just went straight in with

Sidey: Yeah, I did, I did. You can't

Dan: So, I mean, there's got to be rules to this game.

Otherwise, everybody else there is playing. No, sorry, too late. We're going to have to go again. This will be the last one. It's 2 2. It is the decider. We are going to go for Vittel Hom Innocent.

Reegs: Conservative. Buzz

Sidey: Buzz Fugitive.

Dan: For the bonus point, can you give me what he did?

Sidey: Murder.

Dan: Possibly. Probably. Possibly. Close to that hostage taking, but I'm going to give you Vitell on innocent hand yourself in. You're not innocent. And that was the fugitive quiz.

Sidey: very good.

Dan: There you go. They're real fugitives. They're out there right now. So please

Sidey: They could be watching

Dan: do any worse than what you've already done.

Sidey: Yeah, do less. Any more inventions, Riggs?

Reegs: Yeah,

Sidey: go for it.

Reegs: Really? Have you got one?

Sidey: Probably.

Reegs: What about the dog collar from Up?

It reveals the sort of thoughts of dogs.

Dan: He's particularly

Reegs: they're mostly interested in squirrels and they're also a little bit susceptible to fascism, it seems. Because that's the explorer Charles Muntz ends up putting them in biplanes and having them

That's

Sidey: right. Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah, so

There's

that, that was a good one. What about the, the men in black thing?

What was that called?

Had

Dan: the gun,

Sidey: The memory wiper?

Reegs: izer. I want say?

Sidey: like that, yeah.

What about the replicator in Star Trek?

Where you can

Reegs: does anything

Sidey: to me that would really massively stifle, stifle innovation. Because you would just, you wouldn't need to do anything, you'd just like

Reegs: What is the limits of its capabilities? Can you be like, make me a baboon that's got a chicken's head

Sidey: Most, no I think it's, I guess it has to be, I was gonna say non organic, but then they have food.

It makes all their, it makes all their food. Yeah, oh great. Yeah, Picard always has. So it must, it must be able to do organic.

Reegs: put a cup in? Is it like an

Sidey: No, it does, it does the cup as well. Yeah, it's better than an espresso.

Dan: It's weird you say it, because I know

Reegs: Or is it just a transporter? It's not transporting it in

Sidey: matter somehow.

Reegs: Wow, that's cool.

Sidey: So it's a great invention, but I think it would stifle further innovations.

Reegs: Yeah, it sort of violates like known, sort of, you

Sidey: laws of physics.

Reegs: out of nothing, But, yeah, I suppose.

Dan: But soon you will be able I was listening to some chat today about how in the next year or two with the AI kind of revolution that's coming, normal people are just going to be able to say, invent me this or you know as far as coding goes as far well as far as coding goes they reckon it's getting to the point where they'll just say i want a website the same

Sidey: Well, you can already do that.

I, I got it.

Dan: talking it in there

like in

Sidey: Yeah, naturally.

Reegs: already do that, but it's

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: will yeah well it won't be it

Reegs: No, it won't

Dan: it will

Sidey: It's, it's as good as the, it's as good as the prompts. But I asked chat GPT to make us a website for this like the code. And then I put that into thing and it's utter, utter drivel, but it does work.

It does

do it. Yeah, it just then it's just you know, but yeah, like like you say the pace of the thing Will it

Dan: pace and the quality is gonna improve and improve and it

Sidey: But it's still not creating something from nothing.

It's just referencing stuff that's been done already

Reegs: will come for your job too, Dan. They'll they'll be

Sidey: have it

Dan: They'll be AI

Reegs: Gibbons and

Dan: we go. Everywhere. It's, it's all in the, in the post.

Have

you got any more then? Any more for any more? No, Well, let's, let's nominate then. I've got

Reegs: going to nominate a fugitive? I'm

Dan: I'm gonna, I'm gonna nominate a fugitive and inventor. It's the Goonies.

So I'll go for Data, who was a fugitive on the run. And also an

Sidey: inventor.

Yeah, I like that. Go for it,

Reegs: like that. Uh, You know, I love Robin Williams and Yeah, he makes, you know, he gets, he invents a sentient material capable of infinite renewable energy.

So, that's good innit?

Dan: a good one, yeah.

Reegs: could talk about the fact that his robot tries to sexually assault him in his sleep. Probably don't need that.

Sidey: I'm going to nominate not entirely sure I know what it is.

It's Ziggy from Quantum Leap,

Dan: AI kind

Reegs: He's an AI kind of,

Sidey: think it's something that's, that it's not functioning as they had intended.

Dan: Originally

Yeah, Al, who is able to

Sidey: Yeah, Al who is able to go on these leaps with Sam and he has his handheld thing and then he just did like some sort of secret door opens and he goes through. I'm not sure it's ever fully explained what

think it was an experiment that had gone wrong.

Reegs: Oh, man, I know, I have watched all of Quantum Leap. Yeah, it was an experiment gone wrong. There are a couple of episodes that are set back in the real world, where Sam switches back into there, and we see a bit of the world that Sam comes from.

Amazing.

Dan: be the Leap Home.

Reegs: Yeah, but it never fucking was!

Sidey: one was a real heartbreaker. There never

Reegs: was, Dan.

Sidey: never stopped leaping. What

Reegs: God, what an existence.

Dan: an existence. just keeps going.

Sidey: Yeah, so yeah, consummate, in whatever form

Dan: Okay, well nice. Well, let's hear from the, the great unwashed out

Sidey: You can nominate whatever you want, I think. Whatever category.

Reegs: Yeah, fugitives or inventions.

Dan: wide open.

Reegs: Or conservatives.

Dan: Every now and again, I'd just like to pluck one out of

Sidey: Well, yeah, because it was hard to

Dan: And this was really hard to find I'd seen Like a trailer for this and Armed with nothing more than that

Reegs: until recently, I think.

Sidey: right.

Dan: It

had been on did you say oh, right, okay, so maybe somebody out there has seen it then

I found it difficult to find but when I did find it, I watched it.

Reegs: and they may know the story that it's based on because it was based on a magazine article

Sidey: a wired. Yeah

Reegs: called Levita Robot. Robot.

Dan: And it's called Spare Parts. It's a film about some high school kids who challenged to, well, they're challenged all kinds of different ways through their home life, through their social kind of standing within the, the system in America because they're in this largely Hispanic school on a border town And there doesn't seem to be a lot of work going on there for them.

They don't seem to have a lot of opportunities. And we meet over the course of the beginning, these different characters, young boys who have challenging upbringings and lives that they have to, you know, work

Sidey: stuff when we when we see them in school, we don't see that straight away. But what we learned is that a lot of these kids are undocumented.

And they are living in fear of being deported 24 hours a day. could come for them

Dan: Ice.

Reegs: We learned that really from the first character that we're introduced to Oscar. Yeah, who turns up a military recruitment agency and he wants to sign up.

He

Dan: It's his dream to serve.

Reegs: He turns up in his like junior. He's like, I don't know what the thing is. It's like the CCF, but better.

Sidey: The gear on. He's

Reegs: got all the gear on and his training certificates that show that he's ready to go and he wants to enlist but the hispanic Officer tells him look unless you can produce a birth certificate saying you're born in the usa

Dan: We're not going to take you.

Reegs: And worse than that if you can't we didn't really have this conversation

Dan: Yeah, he's trying to do him a

Sidey: Yeah another guy might have said come with me and you're off This guy's like you'd better like clear off and and don't come

Reegs: yeah, so Oscar kind of goes back home, but his mother, who I thought it was his sister because she

Sidey: dead young

Reegs: hot is like waiting for him and it's clear as well that their future is sort of to some degree tied in with his and so he kind of lies and implies that everything went well but it hasn't gone well and he is sort of cast

Sidey: Whilst He was there though. He has seen some publicity about competition

Dan: He's a really driven kid. I mean, he's one of those that he's not going to let this get him down too long. If he can help it, he's looking for solutions rather than excuses.

Sidey: he feels a responsibility to the family he's probably going to be the one that's going to have to help them out Yeah they

Reegs: he also has a passion to serve America. Not the country of his birth, but it's very clear, you know,

he, it's his dream to

Sidey: It's weird because the country is not necessarily going to help him.

Dan: No, well, it's not and it comes up a few times them asking him why, but it's just, he's always wanted to do it.

He's always wanted to serve. We meet another kid as well. Who's he's handy with, with cars and it looks, yeah, he looks like he's he's actually breaking cars. So then he can go and fix

Sidey: Oh, your car's knackered, I can fix that for you.

Dan: van outside is made up of computer spare parts. It's a hard drive, to be honest.

Sidey: honest. Yeah,

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: we do meet

Reegs: We do meet a few of them.

They're all, you know, they're united by the fact that they essentially have no prospects. They have no prospects of jobs or government work. They, like you said earlier, they're constantly looking over their shoulders for,

Dan: one guy, Chris, who's he's like a maths genius, but he's also the easy target for the school bullies and things and He again, you know, really impoverished surroundings at one scene a little bit late one in a film, but you see how many people in his house in this one room and he's kind of goes out into a, a little hookup shed to carry on revising and carry on working and sleep in there, in

Sidey: Yeah, he's he's really getting bullied. You see a couple of times where this lad from the I guess like one of the jocks from the footy team or whatever, gives him a hard time. And this big guy, so the first time we see it and it an intervention, he, It's bigger than the bully and says, listen, off.

And so that's their introduction. They so they form a bond over that and then Lorenzo catches him later on once once they're on the team and he's getting a proper hiding from this guy. I think he's a bit annoyed that having, you know, someone step up last time. So he fills him in in the corridor and he gets another bathroom there, but, but essentially they all bond and there's a substitute teacher

Reegs: I was about to say bravely reuniting the cast of Beverly Hills Chihuahua Jamie Lee Curtis and George Lopez, who was the producer

Sidey: then. And it worked here.

Dan: this is it. Why break a winning formula? So George Lopez is the sub teacher to this impoverished,

Sidey: I didn't really get this because he, he rocks up for an interview. He's a PhD and an engineer and he is turning up for. A substitute teacher job and she's trying to fucking choose him out about why he's had a few different jobs.

You're like, you should be so fucking lucky to get a guy with these qualifications

turn up to your

Reegs: think she's trying to figure it. I mean, she does basically want anyone because they underplay it a little bit in the movie. Just how impoverished and,

Sidey: think it really hits home when they say they've got three computers for 2000 kids or something.

Yeah.

Reegs: But

it doesn't, because it has a kind of very TV movie look, it doesn't really show you any of the kind of, you know, how this school really is

Sidey: show some graffiti and

Reegs: a real place, Carl Hayden Community College, and it was notorious in Arizona for you know, being a hotbed of kind of

Sidey: problems, Probably like metal detectors on the way in and all that sort of Yeah.

Dan: hotbed of kind of problems, metal detectors on the way in and all that sort of thing.

Sidey: you do.

Dan: Who's introduced as another teacher who's gonna help him settle in a little

Sidey: she's a real true believer in Education and all the rest of it and she's super super passionate about it

Reegs: and she's also a coding savant as she's describes

Sidey: And smoking hot as well

Reegs: So freddie

Cameron is kind of drifting, really drifting into this job. I, you know, we'll see later. And there are some clues that he's not a happy man, even at home, even though at school, he's you know, pretty quickly gets in with the kids because he does have robotics club and Oscar.

turns up with this flyer that you were talking about that he sees and says, I want to do this.

Dan: He's the only kid that turns up. And he Is already checking out mentally george lopez, frankie because he's freddie. Sorry. He's he's already Checking out. He's going look I ain't really going to be here to see this through.

Sidey: he's got wind of another job opportunity. So he might be

Dan: I'm already, he's had, he was 15 years in a firm. We know this from his interview and then he's had about eight jobs in, in, you know, two years or something.

He's just drifting in and out. So he's not really thinking he's going to stay a long time, although it's only three months away from the competition. So he goes, look. Get me some more kids and we'll think

about

Sidey: it.

Yeah, you definitely won't be able to do this on your own. We need, you know, you need a team to do this. Cue the music. Avengers

Dan: yeah.

Reegs: get the 18 to go. So it's pretty quick. You already described some of the scenes as well that come with the recruitment earliest. There's probably no need to go through them, but Lorenzo,

Sidey: He's been robbing the the principal's car. yeah, So

Reegs: him.

He tells him how to do it actually shows him. Freddie shows him. He catches him in the act of robbing the principal's car, shows him how to do it. It's about geometry breaks men. And then.

Sidey: now you have

Reegs: Now you have to join the club. And Chris is then brought in because how does Chris get pulled

Sidey: Well, he's a maths genius and he, he, when he gets the big fella that's how the big fella gets into it. I think it just turns out because they know he's intelligent

Dan: they know that he's the maths

Sidey: you fancy this?

And he's like, yeah, okay. And again, it's just like something out of some other skills that he might be able to learn to help his family. And then when the big fella stops him getting bullied, he brings him along because they need someone to lift and shift and do all the grunt work.

Reegs: work.

They show him that they're serious, they show their teacher that they're serious by building this prototype model first and it really is like cheap stuff and it's where Lorenzo really comes into his own, he comes up with like a number of different principles

Dan: he's like a mechanic really, isn't he? Yeah. I mean, I really like the uniform mechanics wear overall,

Reegs: Yeah.

good. So yeah, he, they, they do build that and then they decide because they successfully build the prototype.

He's like, right, we can source funds from the local community to actually build a proper working prototype, which is where they go off and you see that the community has very little anyway. And they offer them nothing when they go, they just turned down no

Sidey: I think they ask they ask like a thrift shop and a laundromat.

You're like, I don't think these are the businesses

Reegs: but that's, those are the businesses that are in their community, you know?

And then he does see a bank. I think a soldier is getting a loan happily approved by, and so he's like, okay, hang on a minute. If I rock up to places in my uniform, I'll, I'll jump on that. Like America will, you know, support their troops, blah, blah, blah. And so they raise about 650 odd

Dan: Yeah, and when they go to the hardware store, the

Reegs: It's amazing.

they go, they go around and they're making design decisions on the floor based on, on the fly, based on what they can afford. And again, it's Lorenzo coming to the four. He is like, right, we'll have some guttering and we'll this, that and the other.

Dan: we'll butcher these kind of lawn mowers for the motors rather than get the actual motors that they'd need

Sidey: they know what the, the competition entails, and one of them is they're gonna need to measure a distance and that you need a laser, a.

Dan: laser pointer

Sidey: And they're like, well, we can't afford that. So they literally just have a fucking tape measure.

It's brilliant. It's

Reegs: amazing.

They're like, we're just going to put a tape measure, and we're going to put a camera on it, and look at what it says. It's brilliant.

Dan: They also realise that within the laser that there's a different kind of maths equation of, of

Sidey: 1.3 refraction. Yeah.

Reegs: That's why he says we'll just look at it on the camera, because you don't need to worry about that.

Dan: And to make their cheap cameras waterproof, they're just using like plumbing casing and

Sidey: but they're literally at the till.

And the guy's like, right, you are $300 short. Yeah. And they're like, oh fuck. Okay, well get rid of the laser thing. And the guy's like, well, you're still 140 bucks down and. All along,

Dan: to do. I'm here to advise

Sidey: I can't

Dan: It's

Sidey: I can't tell you what to do. I'm here to advise and support you. It's technically

Dan: he's

Sidey: And I cannot.

Dan: look, I'll put

Sidey: And they just did the tail. He's like, look, I'll, I'll put in a difference, but you know, just fucking what they go to. We just won't tell anyone. I wonder if that'll come out later on. So they've got all the gear and now they're going to try and now assemble this stuff.

And it's a little bit, it's a MacGyver, isn't it? It's a load of. crudely kind of, it's not that crude actually, it looks quite good. It's a, it's like a borg cube in miniature of, of like plumbing materials. And then they've managed to, you know, get the camera and put that in a little watertight thing. And,

Dan: Each, each time

Reegs: well the first one is a bit of a disaster though because they do get it into a, a swimming pool and pretty soon it's like fried because they'll

Dan: The first one is

Reegs: to put the, put it in a waterproof housing

Sidey: they don't have enough power.

The power is too far away and it has Has to go all the way through the tether and so they don't have enough power to spin the motors and so they're like well We're just gonna have to put the

Reegs: closer to

Sidey: on it and make sure that it's watertight and then they're freaking out and also it's like look if we can't fucking waterproof something to Go in a

Reegs: submarine. Yeah.

Sidey: fuck are we even doing here?

Reegs: it? Yeah. Yeah.

While all this is happening, there's a number of like. What we haven't talked about much now is the kind of social stuff that's going on. So Oscar is now like hiding from ice who are literally following him turning up at his door. He's sleeping on the toilets in the toilets at school. Lorenzo is, he's the,

Sidey: he's the, elder brother. Brother, but he's the undocumented, his brother is

Reegs: Yeah. So

Sidey: so his dad is like, he can't get in trouble.

Reegs: yeah. So Lorenzo has to take the fall for, for his younger

Dan: brother's an absolute

Sidey: he's in gang, he's involved with gangs.

Reegs: And that, that will also come and Yeah, so Chris, like you said, is, is, is living in absolute

Sidey: impoverished? Yeah.

Reegs: And Luis, he is also living in poverty with a number, you know, sort of three or four generational family.

And he's struggling with the fact that he's essentially on the team hired as muscle. And

Sidey: and they keep talking. They, they talk down to him. Although he, he's not obviously as clever as the other guys, but it's not like when we don't see him do anything stupid and they, there's another thing and there's part of the thing is they'll, 30% of the marks are for a, a verbal.

And they're worried that he's going to fuck it up. And so they keep telling him, you've got to study this, study this, study this. And they see him at home and he says to his mum am I stupid? And she goes you know, son, people often confuse quietness with, you

Dan: Stupidity

Reegs: Quiet or slow.

Sidey: quite slow. And she walks off and he goes,

Reegs: I?

Yeah, which one am I?

Sidey: You haven't answered?

Reegs: So

there is quite a lot of stuff going on and actually it does come to a head just two or three days before the competition because there's the, the younger brother goes to commit a

Dan: a robbery. robbery.

Sidey: goes to find him, doesn't he? Lorenzo goes to find him and he is these, all these gang bangers, you've gotta love him in a pool hall or something.

And they said, oh, he is going to get some money from bla the shop like Quickie Mart. And he says, well, there's no. ATM down there and they just look at him go where the fucking is now and he twigs that they've sent him to do a robbery. It's like an initiation. And then when he goes down there he just very like, right at the nick of time stops his brother from pulling a gun on the, the cashier, it gets them out of there.

And then Everyone runs away and he's almost apprehended, but he was able to get away and turns up at the teacher's door. I mean, it's fucking exactly like, exactly like Coach

Reegs: Yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dan: there's, there's a lot of that going on. This, this mentoring and there's a few kind of learning moments. One where he goes over in the car park and he asked Marissa Tomei to, to slap him in the face is kind of a lesson where he goes, look.

You're not always going to get what you want. You've got to sometimes just go for it, though. And, you know, I'll go over and ask her for a date. He doesn't. He just asked her to slap her in the face. But it just helps bond the team together. And they all really feel close to him,

Sidey: And they do have, they do have a real sorry, they do have a real bonding moment when they have the, in effect, the finished

version, of the, they call it stinky.

Like, anyway and they go To some sort of motel it seems where there's a pool and they're able to test it out and they, then they have this bonding moment where they push him in and it looks like he's about to drown. He's obviously like, like playing a trick on them. Everyone's in the pool and they're taking photos with it, with the machine.

And this is, there were the actual photos of the team, you know,

Dan: Well, we see them at the end credits, don't we? So we, we know, 'cause this is based on, on this true story

Reegs: There's been a little bit of a romance that Oscars had

Dan: with the girl in the Rift store.

Reegs: yeah, I didn't catch her name, but she was pretty good and they have a quite a nice little shared moment where they go for burgers and he tells her about like, that was his essentially his first taste of liberty. It was denied to him like they did a border crossing and he was in a truck and it was awful.

It sounds he came with his mother. And then he slept. Yeah, mother and cousins the family member, and he slept and missed his burger, but then he came back and had one. Eventually it was the ta, you know, it was essentially

Dan: had one eventually, you know, it was essentially the taste of liberty in his mouth. It's second generational,

Reegs: She works, she works in the thrift store, and we've gone to check

out

Sidey: she works she works in the thrift store and he had gone to check out some clothes or something because obviously he's

not

Reegs: He's

Sidey: and he's got his like biff clothes and tucked in and whatever so she pulls out some threads for him and says well take that shirt off and he's like what here and he's fucking super buff and you can see her just going oh she's so horny for him yeah

Reegs: But he has to kind of, break it off with her right

Sidey: while she's wrapping a present for

Dan: as well. He's like on the floor of the toilet.

Sidey: It's the night after he slept on the floor of the toilet. And he's like,

Dan: not a good relationship.

But

Sidey: you know, this is not a good relationship,

but she's like, you don't fucking get to tell me.

Reegs: who I love right before they go going

Dan: Lorenzo can't even go, so his relationship with his dad after his brother's been in trouble and the risk of him going into prison is the

Sidey: Well, he gets,

Dan: one of the

Sidey: he gets the teacher to go, doesn't he? He says, you need to, I really need to come and speak to my dad cause he doesn't get it. And blah, blah, blah. And that just turns into a fucking huge fight because

Reegs: second one comes, he's like, well, at least the first guy bought good. But

Sidey: but it's like, you know, Someone turning up at your house to tell you how to parent your kids. It's like

Dan: He was never going to go down

Reegs: Well, also he right because he could seem a little bit one dimensional, but he also has motivations because like he protected his son, but his wife was taken away by ice like and you know, he every time something

Sidey: wrong, when he lays it out, you're like, oh, okay.

He's had a hard, he's had a really hard time, you know, and he doesn't know how to, he's obviously not great at communicating it to the kids, but he's still fighting that battle for them. It just doesn't know how to do it, you know,

in that, that

Dan: no, that's it.

Sidey: So you're like, oh, okay,

Dan: he's a mechanic. He's just working hard. He hasn't got everything sorted out, but he just knows got to keep your head down. Got to stay out of

Sidey: trouble.

But anyway, drama, drama, drama. It's competition time

Reegs: competition time.

But it does take it's fucking

Dan: Yeah, we're probably you know, 75 percent of their film through before we actually going to

Sidey: NERD V.

So what it is, is a massive swimming pool with a mocked up submarine that they have to drive their. little robotic

Dan: could just imagine this being a game

Reegs: It's like nine or ten

Sidey: it's robot wars right but with with more science and less war and

Dan: you've got MIT, who are the current champions,

Sidey: well they're all

Reegs: when they turn up, they, they, right. Their stuff looks like a prototype compared to everything else. That's there. Like it's so crude looking effectively

Sidey: And they're getting

Reegs: slick college offerings.

Sidey: getting sort of patronized by the other people, although there's a girl

Reegs: I didn't get

Sidey: Well, some of them are, but the girl is like, Oh, wow, you've done it that way. Oh, we never thought of that. Oh, we, you know, you went, we went super high tech and they're impressed with the tape. Most like you've done it analog. That's cool. But I also thought it was a little bit like, yeah. And they say that what, one of the kids like, why don't we, if we go for the high school one and we come last, that's embarrassing.

But if we go for the. If we enter the college competition and come last, well, that's what's expected. And the teacher's like, actually, and if you beat one or two of the colleges, then fucking fair play. So that's actually makes a little bit of sense. Let's do that.

Dan: Let's do that. And when they start rolling that idea out and signing up and going into the pool, it's all chose, chose randomly who's going and they're starting to think, bloody hell, this was

Sidey: was a But then they, they see, it's MIT, it's Stanford, it's fucking

Dan: UCLA

Sidey: all, you know, all well, yeah. Although in reality, it was only MIT.

Reegs: there was four community, there was four colleges, not community

Sidey: I, which I thought I thought MIT entered that as like the definition of a flat track bully just beating all these fucking community colleges. Because they had like a 20 grand grant from fucking Exxon.

Dan: so we go through it all and and MIT go before our

Sidey: They effectively go last, so that we know what score they've got to get. But the tasks they have to do are

Dan: they

Reegs: opening the hatch within a minute. If

Sidey: That's the first

Reegs: the diver does it for you and it's like an automatic five point

Sidey: Only five points. I thought that was weighted weirdly. Then you've got to identify the sub, so flip the sign down.

Hook a bell

Dan: you've got a measure, you've got a measure, which is where the tape

measure

Sidey: to do the measure, you've got to do the angle, and then you've got to, then there was a Bit that no one had been able to do and I didn't get the weird bit about MIT when they couldn't do it He goes over the judge and just says it's impossible and you're not Clearly it's a set of tasks.

It's

Reegs: It's to enter into a cave and extract a liquid from a container inside that, so this is all submerged as well.

Dan: Yeah, but

Reegs: they've got such a cool solution for that.

Dan: Well, all their solutions had to be really budget. So they're using milk cartons and balloons. Whereas everybody else's got, you know, parts of glass

Sidey: I mean we see the MIT one. It's like it's incredible.

It's like ridiculous

Reegs: So they all navigate through this task and the MIT guy, a few of the universities are doing really well.

The MIT guys are doing predictably brilliantly. I think they shove, they fuck one task and then the last task, which they declared to be impossible. They're at the leader and then it's our boys. They go and it's not a great start. They, they faff about at the entrance.

Sidey: they can't get the thing open to start with, so they lose the five points there, then they very quickly do the, identify the sub, but they cannot do, the camera misses a few times, and they just can't quite hook the,

Dan: And we've, we've also to, to remember the night before in, in a trial, they'd had a leak and to fix the leak.

And, and this was the whole part of the film really is they didn't have the same resources. So it was a little bit like, you know,

they

Reegs: buy a new case, even though the case really was a hundred bucks or whatever.

Fucking peanuts compared to what they were up against, they couldn't. So they insulated it using tampons, which they have to comically go and They have a thing about like, God, it's such a

Sidey: I didn't understand why they didn't send the teacher in other, other, he is still doing his thing. I can't do it. I can't help you.

Reegs: He said no, yeah, he did say that,

Dan: It's not a big deal

Reegs: a deal buying

Dan: He was the hottest girl in there. That one I felt a

Reegs: asked the hottest girl in there though. That one I felt a bit dodgy about. I think I'd only gone with the grandma. No.

Sidey: 'cause she'd smiled at him as if like, do you need some help? Yeah. Anyway, they're doing all that.

Dan: he needed some help.

Making a million pound pen and the, and the, the Soviet shoes and a pencil. I mean, this was kind of, yeah, but it was like that story is what I'm saying. So they had to put all their resources into much cleverer, simple things

Sidey: Yeah. And that's going to play out a little bit.

Dan: in a little bit.

Sidey: because they're still underwater and they, dropped the, They drop the bell, they can't do that one. They do disarm the bomb.

Reegs: No, they fucked the bomb as

Sidey: They drop that one.

they get guessed.

Reegs: afford a color camera, so

Sidey: That's right, they had to guess on the camera.

Reegs: But they

do all the other tasks and they're okay. They do, they're in about kind of two thirds of the way up the

leaderboard with

Dan: can finish fourth,

Sidey: Well, they do. They're the only team that's able to go through the last bit that MIT declared is impossible. They do go through that. They do extract the liquid and bring it back. And everyone's like, fuck, that was cool. And they've got just enough time to try and do the other bit again. The, the bell that they dropped, but they did run out of time, but they're fourth place on the leaderboard.

And they were, I think were the last ones to go. So they've beaten. Like half a dozen

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. I mean they're in the top four out of

Sidey: they've got the verbal bit now to do which is worth 30 percent of the

Dan: Which we know they're going to be weaker at because they're

Sidey: Well, we've been led to believe that the big fella will let them down.

Reegs: And also, they're kind of I mean, these are Hispanic community college kids, you know, up against like the white, you know, middle

Sidey: no more.

Reegs: like middle upper class

Dan: UCLA going in saying, Oh, this, that, and the other, and they haven't explained. And each member of the team has to explain another bit. They're asked how much it costs.

And they said, Oh,

Sidey: Well, it's a whole load of talking heads, isn't it? When they cut across to different colleges and different blogs and we did it this way.

Dan: 000. This one, they're smiling about it.

Sidey: And there's, there's that one mega nerd from MIT and he's like giving it all the big explanation and super, super technical. And I was like, well,

Reegs: explain it in layman's terms

Sidey: they just like, well, we had no money, so we had to do it this way.

And we just thought we'd do that. And when it gets down to the nuts and bolts of it, the guy says, well, how much did the thing cost? And he's like, eight. And he's like, okay, 8, 000. He's like, no, no. Like, it was 820 bucks and the guy's like, looks at him like, what the

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: just can't believe it.

Reegs: can't

Sidey: then it gets to, I should know his name.

What's his name? Lewis, the big guy.

And he's sort of, they ask him what's the difference between mass and weight and blah. And he, he gives this really great layman terms explanation. And the guy's like, God, it's nice to hear just a bit refreshing to hear the non bullshit answer, you know, just the,

Reegs: just what it actually is. Yeah,

Sidey: And he says, and one more thing.

Dan: all this on yourself, did

Sidey: all this on yourself, did anyone help you? He's like, no, no. He just goes, no. And he's like, no. Did you advise the help? He goes, well. And you're like, oh,

don't do

1. And he says, well, he had to give us some money because we were short.

So he paid

Dan: So then he goes, alright

Sidey: you're like, oh no,

Reegs: And he

Sidey: it.

Reegs: that

Dan: scribbles that down and then when he goes back into the room though to to meet the other guys, he doesn't say anything about it and you think, oh, well, he does it. Oh, the big guys let him

Reegs: We needed to have a bit of attention. It was an even bigger rip in real life to what they did because that bit is largely true with the, with the whole 30 percent bit and the going in and they had all these PowerPoint presentations and stuff and they asked him, why do you not have any PowerPoint?

He said, PowerPoint's a distraction. People use it when they don't know what to say. That's what he said to them. So, that's a great answer, and I will be using that at work all the time. So

Sidey: now we're at the awards ceremony and they just start the whole ceremony by saying, we've got the participation award trophy for what's the name of their school?

Reegs: school? Carl Carl, what is it? I knew it a minute ago. Carl Hayden High School. Carl

Sidey: High School the special award for high school basically going up against and they're like, Oh,

Dan: Well, they get

Reegs: we've got the special kids

Dan: they got this kind of wooden cardboard plaque

Sidey: they call it the pity

Dan: upside and collect.

So they know that they're obviously not going to get a chance of winning all the, the big trophies that they're on the, on the bench, the brass cup and the silver one and the gold one with a, with a big stands. It's like a columns, isn't it? It's one huge

Sidey: Yeah, they they do this.

Well, don't have

Dan: It reminded me a little bit out of karate kids, you know, when Danny LaRusso's won that big

Sidey: So then they but they go through they go through the teams and their name hasn't been read out and then they go they're not in fourth anymore

Dan: Well, they're not in third, that, that goes, they know they're, you

Reegs: Well, they call MIT second, so they're like, Oh, right.

Dan: Bloody hell, somebody beat MIT.

Reegs: they must've been really good in the verbals. And

then would you believe it? I think just as his dad turns up because they, she, Marissa Tomei is Jamie Lee Curtis has handed in her air miles that she was going to go to Tuscany to fly the dad over so he can watch Lorenzo.

Sidey: And so that Marissa Tomei can have sex I think, yeah, yeah.

So he's, yeah, he's there for the big reveal, and, and they, they couldn't believe it.

Reegs: standing ovation and yeah,

Dan: Yeah, they can't believe it of course. The dad is, has stood there and he sees Lorenzo and he realizes. Wait a minute, maybe I'm backing the wrong horse here, because the, the guy

Sidey: I should just be nicer to

Dan: Nicer, nicer to him because he's, he's probably the harder working out my son.

And we do see a few little bits before that, that the youngest son is obviously you know, he's in gangs, he's, he's buying fags and, and all the rest of it. And he's not contributing to the family and it. It all comes to him and it's quite an emotional moment where his dad's there

Sidey: and, oh, my Mrs was in floods.

Dan: he just pulls him in and he gives him a big hug and he sends him back out there. He sees him kind of shaking hands with his college students and everything. He just thinks. Wow, that's my son. Like, you know, he's, he's, he's with these

Sidey: talented. He is brilliant. Yeah. Yeah.

Dan: And he's holding his own. He's won this competition.

Jamie Lee Curtis is making an announcement to an empty school. Because she's so thrilled about it.

Reegs: Freddie decides to stay. I think he bins off the job, doesn't he, to

Dan: I mean, we, we, we also hear that As he goes, Oh, the big guy doesn't he goes he's speaking to one of the judges and he goes, Oh, I wasn't, you know, I just didn't see this coming because what happened about the money, you know, that he helped

Sidey: just goes, there's all your, all your

Reegs: all right. Yeah, it's fine. Yeah. It's, it's, it had to be fundraising. He's like, well, I thought it was bad. He's like, maybe the guy's just cheap.

And then it

Dan: And then it kind of flashes onto George Lopez. He just smiles like this cheesy white teeth smile. And we

Reegs: And then we get, yeah, it's the, that's out. Yeah. We get a little bit about the true story, which is not quite as dramatic, but he's still pretty

Sidey: still amazing that they were able to do it. And, you know,

Reegs: is. And necessity being

Sidey: they just didn't compete.

I think the only the major change is they didn't compete against all these universities like they told in the film But they did compete against mit

Reegs: The, the social and privilege gaps between the winners and, and the rest were so enormous that they were worthy of being sort of upplayed in

Sidey: this kind of Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Dan: and well, I mean they, they've gone on to be recognized within that kind of community.

In the,

Reegs: Well, Oscar was the real life Oscar was deported as we find out,

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: and then was able to get back. He was petitioned on

Dan: there was a senator wasn't there

Reegs: to get him back. And he was, and then served his country, his adopted country in Afghanistan and Iraq and went on to achieve very many things. And the, the three of them had scholarships and all sorts.

And then Luis and I think Lorenzo went into kind of a cooking

Sidey: business

Reegs: together. And Chris went on to, to do mathematics and all sorts.

Dan: Yeah, it was, it was a story of you know, these, these four kids who built this robot. They, they all had, the skills that they were able to bring together, whether it be the mass, whether it be that drive from Oscar to keep the team together and keep positive in the face of adversity.

So many times you had the mechanic, you had this, this guy. Kind of, you know, strong kid who who came good with his his layman explanations of how this robot worked and everything they could be deported at any time. And you

Reegs: yeah, really

Dan: of going over to him. And that story really, it's weird, isn't it?

In America, where there, there's so many illegal immigrants, and they're Working and living within communities. Everybody knows they're kind of illegals. It's such a gray weird area and

Reegs: a big react,

Dan: living on the

Reegs: of immigration, America, right? I mean, that

Sidey: it's important.

Reegs: it, so yeah, it feels a bit, and, and they're having a kind of battle for, for its heart right now, over the next 24 hours, that, that is like one of the issues that they're,

Dan: absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, so

Reegs: let's see where your heart

Dan: Well, I watched a film.

Sidey: point about it's a country of immigration. That's why I don't, don't understand. Well, it's white people, I suppose. But anyway.

Dan: Trump and yeah, we'll see which way it goes. But I mean, there was a film called McFarlane USA, which was around you know, an impoverished community of, of kids getting into running and things, you know, so these biopics have been done before. Coach Carter, we, we've heard of before and George Lopez plays that That coach, you know, that mentor helps to keep them on the straight and narrow at school, but also in their, their life.

You know, it's a PG 13. I think it was, it came in around that maybe it was, I mean, there wasn't

Reegs: it's pretty lightweight in terms of it's, you know, and quite you know, the drama is is there because of the subject material, but it's not explored in like grim realism or anything like

that.

Sidey: No, I mean, I watched

Reegs: more just raises the issues,

Sidey: I watched it with my daughter. She really enjoyed

Dan: my daughter, she really enjoyed

Reegs: could watch this. Yeah,

Dan: Yeah, Marissa Tomei and Jamie Lee Curtis, you know, great casting there because without those in it, I think it could drop below it, that That that level which would make it more of a TV type,

Reegs: Yeah, but they're barely in it really. I think that the dynamic is the

Dan: Yeah, it is.

Reegs: they're great and it's like such a good story about like, if you show kids a bit of, if you give them a bit of faith or give them a bit of hope what they can do, and the fact that it's true.

Yeah,

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I

Reegs: So even though it's like really predictable in many ways, like it has the rhythm and beats of all those

Sidey: I always thought, because Coach Carter always said, they don't win. Yeah. Yeah. And I was wondering if that was gonna be ending here, because they get, they set it up that way to get the, the pity prize, as they call it. And they were in fourth, and I was like, oh, they're

gonna

Dan: to get

Sidey: gonna be a plucky failure to

Dan: their corner, and they were in for it, and it's like, oh, they're

Sidey: I, no, it wasn't. But

Dan: also, if you're a, so

Sidey: they were ambitious

Dan: great emotional, social content.

If

Reegs: If also, if you are a, so there's all that great emotional social content if you're a techie or kind of nerd of any kind, like the way that they solve problems, the elegant design, the, the, the. Necessity being the mother of invention so many times how they're constrained by their budget and the way they elegantly design around it is just really

Dan: really I enjoyed those bits, yeah, I must think, you know, they would go, well why does it need to be this, why can't it be plastic, and that's lighter, we need less power then, and they're piecing it all together using their own skills.

Yeah, I enjoyed it, it was, Not too long, nicely paced along, difficult to find,

Sidey: Yeah, that's the thing. You won't be able to find

Dan: do get a chance to watch it then you won't be disappointed.

Give

Sidey: strong recommend

Reegs: recommend. let's bring this motherfucker

Dan: Let's bring this M O T H E R home.

Sidey: R. home. Yeah, both

Reegs: And George. Yeah, both of them. The crime busters of the deep. Da da da da da. They're

Dan: They're like fond of wanks. Here. Wow they're kind of crime fighting fish from the Blanks or Queens or

Reegs: Sea Cargo.

Okay.

Dan: Sea Cargo, is

Reegs: that's where they're from yeah, which is overseen by the sardine of Liberty

because I

did that was the one of the things I did. I remembered not liking this as a kid apart from the theme tune

Dan: Yeah, I don't think I saw this. This is my debut. I don't, I hadn't heard the name. I'd heard the name

Sidey: haven't seen it before.

Dan: But No,

this was my debut.

Reegs: All right, all right, so this was channel 4 on a Sunday morning I want to say yeah, I just like the theme tune. That was

it

Dan: It starts off the Sharky and George are on the seabed. They're playing around with what, like a lawnmower or a

Reegs: an aquas scooter.

Dan: An acro scooter. It bang bangs into like a rock or something, which reveals the Venus de macro.

Reegs: Yes, it is the Venus. It's a green mask carving which they take to the Marquess of Finsbury

Dan: he's got a very posh British voice. Italian, yeah.

Reegs: Yeah, I don't understand how they build anything because they've only got fins and flippers and shit.

Well, not flippers, but

Sidey: Yeah. No opposable thumb.

Reegs: so, the Marquess decides they should have, like, a great show of culture because they found this Brilliant bit of artwork and he decides to stage a play that he himself will write

Dan: Sharky wants a, a rock concert, doesn't he? Low, but he can't have it.

Reegs: then there's a bunch of like mob fish

Dan: Yeah. And

Reegs: up and they want to steal it because

Dan: That's right. And it is, it's, it's very much

You

know, gangsters with little hats on. They've got the, the

Reegs: cause Sharky is basically Humphrey Bogart,

Dan: a

Reegs: He's wearing a fedora and he's kind of got that jowly look thing.

Sidey: Hang dog.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: and and George is

Reegs: A fish.

Dan: Yeah, I'm not sure what kind of fish he is. He's

Reegs: green bluey, orangey one.

Bluey fish. Mm.

So there's some shenanigans, they try to steal the What is it? The market?

Dan: The Vino Di

Reegs: de Macro? They try to steal it whilst the play is going on because it features prominently in the play. And then it it does happen. There's, right, basically, there's like a bit of hijinks and all that stuff while they try and steal it.

One of them's too

Dan: of them fighting for

Reegs: They've got knives! Did you notice that? They pull blades. Like, Carlos's, he pulls a blade and he's like, slashy stabby. I mean, this was kind of 1990s,

Sidey: Kind of sounds more like London

Dan: 1990s. Yeah, cartoon style is Well, it's,

Reegs: wasn't very

Dan: very good, was it? It was very 1990s.

Sidey: Well, The

Dan: animation

Reegs: I didn't mind the animation style, it's not very complicated

Dan: No, it was very basic

Reegs: basic and

It's the theme tune,

Dan: that's all that's holding this together because the writing after it wasn't very good.

No, it was, it just went on and on to be honest. There was a fighting scene where you thought, you know, who's going to win this? Like, you

Reegs: Yeah, don't string it out for two and a half minutes.

Dan: they did. They went even maybe longer than that. And,

Reegs: It's the kind of thing where, you know, there's a fat fish and he gets stuck getting through a window.

Sidey: Oh god.

Yeah

Reegs: like, yeah, that sort of thing. And you get like 40 seconds of that. Like,

Dan: And then a door slams and it pushes him into another

Sidey: just like lazy stereotype kind of

boring

Dan: up and Yeah, it was, it was tough to keep concentrated on this one. I

Sidey: Especially when you're really hungover. You

Dan: still watch this?

Reegs: I remember the theme tune. That is all I remember. I remember the theme tune and thinking, God, that was shit. And I, here I am, no growth. Sort of 40 years later saying the same

thing.

Sidey: nice.

Dan: Yeah. Sharky and George if you missed it the first time round,

Sidey: Wasn't this put forward by Breachy?

On Discord. yes

Reegs: it was, yeah, it was a listener suggestion,

Dan: Maybe there's a better episode, Breachy. Maybe you can tell us about it.

Reegs: could tell, or maybe for her it was just the theme tune.

Sidey: Possibly.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: it wasn't for me, I'm afraid.

Sidey: Strong recommend?

Dan: strong recommend.

Reegs: Definitely, huge recommend.

Dan: What a, what a splendid show.

Sidey: Strong choices this week Dan,

I

Reegs: Dan. Two top fives a movie that wasn't really available. Choices not in until Sunday when I got really passive aggressive and chose

Sidey: I'd say just aggressive.

Reegs: Just aggressive. Yeah. So, great, thanks, let's, can we be more

Sidey: Yeah, I have got nominations for next week I just don't have them with me because I know, I don't

Dan: organised

Sidey: they're written down in my notebook at work. I can tell you what the main feature and the top five

Dan: go on nan

Sidey: Top five highs

and high fidelity.

Reegs: How you spelling that high? does it matter?

Sidey: with a special character around so it can be whatever you want.

Reegs: Okay.

All right.

Sidey: And then, and then I couldn't remember if we'd done high school musical.

Reegs: high fidelity. Is that, that's our main feature, yeah. Okay.

Sidey: Okay. John

Reegs: High school musical? We haven't, no.

Sidey: So there'll be an episode of high school musical as a kid's thing. And then the midweek will also features the word high and the title. I just can't remember which one I was going to pick. And then I've got a big list of about nine or 10 to

Reegs: high things.

Sidey: Yeah.

So there you go.

Dan: plenty to keep tuned for then.

Sidey: Yeah. All that remains is to say, Sidey signing out.

Reegs: is gone.

Dan: Dan's

gone.