Rise the planet of the Apes & Curious George

Rise of the Planet of the Apes

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Cris: well, I dunno,

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Reegs: Yeah. Thank you.

Dan: Common

Cris: ti I, I think that's, you know, it's like, hi, how are you? Welcome to Bad Dance Film Review. URI is like,

Reegs: it sounded fucking sexy.

Cris: like a form of, hello. I can't really translate it freely. It's like.

Hello, but, but it's more of

Sidey: Hello! It's

Cris: almost like a welcome. You can use it as a welcome, but you can also use it as a hello.

Dan: Okay. Ciao.

Reegs: Welcome to Bad Dads Film Review, the podcast in which a bunch of middle aged men review the movies they missed while bringing up their kids. Guaranteeing you a laugh a minute though I can't tell you exactly when that minute will be.

This week we're baring our bottoms at each other and flinging around our own shit for a while. for a reason as we talk about the top five monkeys before moving on to this week's main feature director Rupert Wyatt teaming up with Andy Serkis for 2011's Rise of the Planet of the Apes before we finish up the monkey business with Curious George about chaotic simian toddler wreaking havoc in a suburban neighborhood.

Now, we're nothing if not sticklers for accuracy here at Bad Dad, so a quick correction for the top tip in last week's episode, a hammer and chisel is the best way of getting rid of tiles. And I'm extending our apologies to the many, many of you who wrote in to complain about the injuries they'd suffered.

All that we have to do now after that is introduce the dad, starting with resident dinosaur Dan. And I'm not trying to say he's old, but he knew King Kong when he was just a prince. And when that joke was original and at his age, he doesn't even buy green bananas though Darren, I think said in the chat that he's he's older than you.

He thinks

Dan: Oh,

Sidey: wow.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Wow. Heard it on the ape vine here.

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: We've also got beautiful narcoleptic technophobe chris, and we also have sidey an endurance charades player given to extreme tests of durability in the art of mimicry. I can't forget your End of the 24 hour my marathon where And exhausted and sweaty sidey on his hands and knees trying to finish off an officer and a gentleman with only seconds to go, so.

Yeah, unforgettable.

Sidey: to

Cris: remember that. Yeah. Yeah, it

was good.

Sidey: yeah, unforgettable.

I remember that. Yeah, it was good. It was a

Reegs: was a peanut butter

Sidey: butter

incident. I think so. I retraced my steps. I felt slightly queer at work about half past four. I burped unexpectedly and I was like, oh, normally nowhere that's going to happen. And then I, I got home and I thought, well, I don't feel. a hundred percent and my missus looked at me and said, you look like shit.

I was like, no, I don't feel great. And I messaged you Riggs. And I said, I don't know, I feel slightly ill at ease. You might have to collect the SD card from me. But, but give me give me a moment. And then a moment passed and I missed him. I said, no, fucking no way. And then my missus talking to me and I was like, I've got to go.

I ran upstairs. And it was like Team America, Gary outside

the

Dan: bar.

Sidey: And then I retraced my steps, because I hadn't actually eaten very much. And I, so I was like, I ate that, and I ate that, and I ate that, and I had a peanut butter sandwich, and I got the peanut butter out the out the cupboard, and it had gone out of date on June 23.

But I thought that that was apocalypse food, that you could just eat, Forever. But someone said, someone did point out that if you buttered your bread a year ago and put that in, put the knife in, then you would have contaminated it. And so I think that's what might have happened. Anyway, I wasn't very well at the last possible moment.

Reegs: done all the homework, done all your

Sidey: I had a whole

Dan: But sorry, sorry, just to go back, is that the kind of thing you would do when you use two separate knives?

Sidey: No, I would use the same

Dan: would, you would infect the, the other

Sidey: know what, do you know what I have a really, a real fucking bugbear of mine is when people butter toast and they scrape the remnants of their butter

Dan: Yeah. Back in,

Sidey: back into the

Dan: scrape backs.

I

Sidey: I

fucking hate that. And I told,

Dan: I've seen it happen.

Sidey: was, I was in the kitchen, I said, don't you fucking dare do that.

Reegs: fucking dare do that.

Cris: don't, I've never

Reegs: that. I think I've done it when I've been myself. Just by myself. Living by

Dan: I got called out for doing that once.

Sidey: hate it. That's

Dan: It wasn't by you either. It was someone else. Yeah. But it was

Sidey: So yeah, because I had I had a whole film studies thing about film quadrants.

Reegs: Yeah,

because we did forwards. Well, we still need an entrance side. You could maybe

Sidey: could get into that when we, when we close that off, but yeah, I think.

Dan: yeah

Okay, We should have done this in April, really,

Sidey: You should

Reegs: have quite a few to be fair there's quite a number of monkey puns, isn't there

Who's has anybody got anything to say in terms of things they've been watching or

Dan: watched, I

Sidey: watched, I watched the Ghostbusters movie, which we may or may not get into as a discussion down the line.

I, I was underwhelmed. I was underwhelmed by it. I also watched Dune Part 2, which we may or may not talk about in another episode.

Reegs: terry and june

Sidey: possibly had a different point of view

Dan: I like June one I've read the books relatively recently in the last sort of five years So is the first time I'd read the book Are

Sidey: I watched the I watched some sports.

did, I watched some, I watched the Fury Yusek fight. that. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah, he the right man one

Sidey: you think so? Yeah. Because I don't. I

Dan: believe so well, it looks like um, our our june pod lala, is on hand Peter has arrived

Sidey: I, I, I, part of me when I was watching it thought they would call it as a draw, but anyway, that's not what we're here to talk about.

Reegs: Yeah. No.

Cris: watching it I thought they would call it a draw, but anyway that's not what it is.

Although

I don't really think so. I've, I've seen enough Guy Ritchie movies to kind of figure out how, how roughly is, is going to end.

I know it's going to be a few twists and turns, but I've still got a few episodes to finish it. And I've watched the baby reindeer until the episode with the rape scene when the guy gets raped.

Dan: haven't seen

Sidey: few other people have said that.

The guy looks like me.

Reegs: said that this guy looks like me. Yeah, he does.

Cris: you're not, you're not ginger actually. So it's,

Sidey: God bless you

semblance.

Cris: but so yeah, I've seen that. And. I have finally finished Napoleon because I watched half of it and I wasn't impressed, but then I thought, I've got 45 minutes left of it and I thought either this or I'm gonna start watching something else.

So I just thought, let me finish it. I was underwhelmed by that

Sidey: Okay.

Times. What about you? Re

Reegs: last episode of Fallout, which I did quite enjoy. But

Sidey: Have you played Fallout New Vegas?

Apparently that is the, that's how it starts.

That's the,

Reegs: Oh, right.

Sidey: I'm told. Interesting. Yeah.

Dan: Well, enough of this monkey business.

Reegs: Well, should we find out about last week's top 5 stuff? Did we have

Sidey: Oh, I,

yeah. Hang on. Oh god. First quadrant, so for the dudes, younger dudes, would be like a Superbad, or a Fight Club, or a John Wick, or even Diary of a Wimpy Kid if you want to go a lot younger.

Reegs: hmm, okay, yeah.

Sidey: Example of the second quadrant, Princess Diaries? Yeah. The vowel,

Reegs: demographic, broad appeal then in that under 25.

Sidey: Yeah, yeah, so anything from 0 to 25.

Yeah. To all the boys I've ever fingered or The Hunger Games. A third quadrant, so now we're talking about, it could be just boys. Yeah. of younger or older than 25. Argo, Saving Private Ryan, 310 to Yuma, Logan or Ad Astra. That's got good monkey content.

Reegs: in this week's top five.

Sidey: Okay, cool. And the fourth quadrant, which is for chicks with dicks who are over or under 25 is Nomadland, Little Children, Pride and Prejudice, Notting Hill or Gone Girl.

Reegs: Gone Girl.

Sidey: Yeah, I don't know if that's true.

Cris: Is that, what, is that, what, I,

Dan: It seems

Sidey: I also, I seem to have copy and pasted it twice,

Reegs: Well, there you go. It's twice. It's out. He's got

Dan: two different ones. I think you're being a bit ageist,

Sidey: think you're being a bit ageist, Dan, but

Cris: Pride and Prejudice has 25.

Dan: who's under

Sidey: It's like about people with old clothes on?

Dan: Who's which 10 year olds into gong girl though?

Sidey: The best kind.

Dan: you sure this is a quadrant or is it more of a

Sidey: more

Reegs: a Dodecahedron.

Cris: hydrant.

Sidey: so,

so, ones, so right, the ones that tend to span the genre, I'm sorry to say this Chris, but Disney ones will be a lot of them because they appeal to kids, but they'll leave enough stuff in there that appeal to the grown ups as well. So things like The Incredibles. Toy Story, that sort of stuff. They appeal to everyone.

Every, I know you haven't.

Reegs: Just

Sidey: Yeah, so Pixar stuff.

Dan: Have seen it and just fallen

Sidey: But also stuff like Inception, which is a bit action y, but also is, you could still watch that as a, maybe it's like under 25,

Dan: movie. It's not Disney,

Sidey: So we're talking 18 to 25 is

Cris: 25. I watched it in my 30s and I still didn't understand it the first three times I watched

Sidey: I know Meet the parents is a is a favorite of peter flambard fast and the furious that's that's the four quadrant one star wars. So all that kind of stuff You know what i'm talking about? So that was that was the thing I was going to talk about four quadrants and out of all of that I would probably pick Meet the parents

Reegs: Yeah, definitely.

Cris: we'll put Meet

Reegs: So we'll put meet the parents in for top five

Sidey: yeah, yeah.

Dan: Wow, well reasoned.

Sidey: stuff that I had were like Sex and the City, the Fab Four, the Beatles. Cause you lot just started to name things

Reegs: like

Sidey: The Wizard of Oz, there was the, the four, you know, that was and the Golden Girls?

That, I don't think that, that came along.

Dan: No, no, but I remember

Sidey: should have.

Reegs: what about the four skins that were in the jar in the Wicker Man?

Dan: Yeah.

I think that should go in. Actually, that's a strong recommend.

Sidey: that is, that's great. So there's plenty, I don't, there's too many to mention. But let's go for Meet the Parents. I think we said that already, didn't we?

Reegs: it's time

Sidey: Right, it's time for Apes.

Reegs: Yeah. Let's do it.

Cris: To rise.

Sidey: I think you actually put I don't know how pedantic you're gonna get about this, but you On the chat, it was monkeys.

Reegs: I thought this might come up, I'm not going to be a pedant, just

Sidey: Okay, right, cool.

Reegs: I, cause I like

Sidey: went for anything simian. Right.

Reegs: And I really like him, obviously Jersey is pretty famous apey stuff anyway.

That kid who

Sidey: idiot who fell in the thing with Dan pushed

Dan: Levin Merritt, his name was,

Sidey: did you push him in? Is

Dan: nothing to do with it. But you can watch that footage on YouTube, it's still there,

Sidey: they rip him limb from limb.

Dan: remember

Reegs: Where they rip him limb from limb. It was

fucking,

Sidey: fucking like, this wasn't just local news. This was international news.

Dan: a pretty amazing

Sidey: Because because because of zoo stuff. Zoo stuff does tend to transcend and goes global when there's a big zoo story.

Reegs: big zoo story. It happened

Dan: happened a few years ago in Cincinnati. A kid fell into the gorilla pit there and they had a big body of water.

And the Harambe, the gorilla, was just pulling this kid around and they had to shoot him and kill him.

No,

the kid survived,

Sidey: Right, okay.

Dan: But yeah, they had to they had

Reegs: Harambe. Yeah. Yes.

Dan: it was quite a sad

Reegs: It is a sad story though. Thanks for bringing the

Sidey: Well, Jambo is obviously better than that.

Reegs: We have, yeah, he was, he was a nicer gorilla, and we have good monkey content over in Jersey, and we go to the zoo because it is a cheap option, even if it is at the center of a big argument about its heart and soul at the moment but anyway the, we, and there's orangutans there, and I love orangutans, so monkey business.

Sidey: no ginger, but i'm okay with them.

Reegs: Go on Dan, give us the first of our monkey nominations.

Dan: I would say King Louie in the Jungle Book. He's that classic King of the Swingers. He was a jungle VIP. I don't know what else to say about King Louie. Other than it was, and still is, like, you know, the classic jungle animation. Name me a better one.

Sidey: can't.

Dan: You can't, you know, there's Tarzan stuff, but this is, is out there. The

Sidey: the king of the

Dan: Mowgli is, you know, he's he looks after everybody. He's got sort of biggish arms. He promises use his influence. And he's he's, he's generally a good guy.

Sidey: Wait, are we talking about King Louie?

Dan: isn't he?

Sidey: Or Baloo?

Dan: No King Louie.

He's the orangutan.

Reegs: Yeah, but he's,

Sidey: He's a

Reegs: he's a dick,

Yeah.

Sidey: He's got a

Reegs: a good song, I think you've been swayed by a good song,

Sidey: Yeah, you have.

Reegs: Yeah, the plot of the movie has him as one of the villains,

Sidey: maybe he

Dan: That's how easy you can

Reegs: No, that's how easy you can be swayed, clearly. Well,

Dan: a

Sidey: the jungle VIP. Yeah, he's the jungle VIP, but you need to look beyond his VIP status, because he had nefarious morals.

Dan: a king of the swingers.

Sidey: His motivations were questionable.

I think he was a rape. He was

Dan: I don't, no, don't bring any rape allegations against King Louis. There's nothing wrong with King Louis girl. What have you got

Sidey: me? I've got Bolo from the Mighty

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: He was an aged, old gorilla in the Zooniverse. Who first appeared in the radio series, but was also in the TV thing.

Reegs: He really liked Vince and he didn't not care for

Sidey: He was good at, he was good at table tennis as well.

Reegs: He used to say, I've got a bad feeling about this

Sidey: bad feeling that's a good

Reegs: I've got a trio of maniac apes for you if you want sparked off of watching as anybody seen Nope, the Jordan Peele

Sidey: Not yet.

Reegs: follow up um, that has Steven Yeun as the survivor of an incident in which a chimp named Gordy goes berserk on a sort of TV show as part of it. Yeah, the, the sort of chimp is startled by some balloons that tied into a story with Daniel Kaluuya and sort of a big balloon alien out in the middle of nowhere.

Didn't actually like that one that much. Also featuring crazy monkeys. You mentioned it was Ad Astra. They get to a space station

Sidey: Space baboons,

Reegs: baboons like in free in gravity, zero gravity, a baboon attacking you is not a good fun and Congo. Did you ever see that one? That was a Michael Crichton novel.

You like a bit of Michael Crichton, don't you? That has an expedition going out to somewhere. Can't remember exactly where and to, to mine for a laser thing. Anyway, they end up being hunted by killer gorillas.

Sidey: killer gorillas

Reegs: So, that is

some maniac monkeys for you.

Dan: I wonder what that one's like. Have you

Cris: I've got a sexually charged monkey in a movie called The Rundown, Welcome to the Jungle. It

Reegs: the rock

Cris: The Rock and Stifler.

Reegs: Yeah, sure. William scott. I have seen

Cris: And the, the guy The Rock is like a hired gun for this movie. Guy and he needs to go to the forests of the Amazon forest somewhere.

I would imagine Brazil to rescue to bring back this guy's son and he Christopher Walken is the guy that owns the mine, where this guy finds El Gato or whatever, and he ends up in the jungle and his face gets shagged by a baboon, while he's hanging upside down, and it's a very sexual scene, and then the baboon kinda leaves him alone after he finishes his job.

So it's, it's quite, it's quite nice that he doesn't.

Sidey: It's quite horny.

Reegs: sort of, yeah, assaulted, sexually assaulted by a

Cris: Yeah, he gets sexually assaulted by a baboon. I'm pretty sure he gets sexually assaulted by a baboon in Jumanji.

Reegs: to over 28, 000 people a year in the UK alone Chris, so.

Cris: Okay. Well, This

is the rock. So if it happens to the rock twice,

I mean, 28, 000 people, it can, it can happen to

Dan: walking

Reegs: This is like Pele and the dis sexual dysfunction. The rock only ought to be sexually abused by

Sidey: Exactly.

So I've, I've, I've, I've,

Cris: I've got the rock twice sexually abused by baboons.

Dan: Wow.

Cris: So beat that,

Dan: You never know what you're going to get, do you? But Tarzan and the Ape Man was back when I was a youth in 1932.

This was Johnny Westmiller.

Sidey: Oh yeah,

Cris: Weissmuller. He's Romanian

Dan: Yeah. He's the, he was an Olympian. Was he, or yeah, he's top man in the jungle. And when Jane swings in and her plane crashes and she falls in love with Tarzan, they get caught up at one point. And it's up to Cheetah the Tara? Yeah. No, yeah, no, the chimp. Yeah.

Reegs: always confusing to me as a kid.

Dan: Yeah. It was a

Reegs: I, am I the only

Dan: cheetah? Yeah. Yeah,

Reegs: like

Dan: cheetah. Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: it's a different animal.

Dan: I know. But is that's what he was called, wasn't it?

Cris: their child was called boy.

Dan: Whoa.

Sidey: but do you

Reegs: See, that's

Sidey: do you think Tarzan would be able to have a normal relationship with Jane?

Don't you be

Dan: O Sullivan. Yeah. Well she was,

Sidey: mean The fictional character

Reegs: The fictional character of Tarzan would, you know, he would

Sidey: well, you know,

Dan: he's primal, you know, he's But he's got no

Sidey: got a

Cris: Yes, but it depends, because in the bonobo society, the women is the dominant, one. So the bonobos, the women are leading rather than the

Sidey: Yeah. Probably, yeah.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: probably. Yeah.

Reegs: It's

Cris: So the Bonobo

Reegs: is it? Let's be honest.

Sidey: Yeah, that's, that's the kind of role play that goes on at Lakeview. Yeah,

Dan: It was it was a real popular one, this, though, in my house when

Cris: was the Johnny Weis Miller ones. Oh, I used to love them.

Dan: And, you know,

Sidey: thought you meant in a role

Dan: you would see, you would see him, like, swinging through the jungle.

He'd swim across a river. I mean, they would have had him doing all this stuff as well, you know. And it was great, because he was an Olympian, you know. So, he had, Terrific kind of physique and just the perfect guy to be swinging through the the jungle singing and chanting and doing the big what is it chris, how's it go at the

Reegs: That's good.

Sidey: That's good. Very good. Powerpuff Girls is really good as well.

You a big fan? And, and the main villain is Mojo Jojo.

Mojo

Cris: that the purple monkey kind of It's

Sidey: He's a super intelligent

Cris: okay.

Sidey: which infers that he's either been experimented.

I don't know his origin story

Cris: I need to look into that.

Sidey: But there is a trope of Experimental apes sent out into space that come back intelligent and we see that in the Simpsons for everything. There's a Simpsons episodes where there's a

The super intelligent chimpanzee who's he's the chairman of a board meeting On roller skates.

I had a toy, thing of it. And he's come back from space super intelligent. Yeah

Reegs: There's also when Burns is trying to get his

Sidey: He's got

Reegs: And he's got a thousand

Sidey: best of

Reegs: It's the best of times. It was the blast. Ha ha ha ha. Oh. See you, monkeys. Braindead, the Peter Jackson movie, kicks off with the Sumatran rat monkey biting Lionel's mother.

You've got a friend called Lionel as well, and so, you know, there's

Dan: hurts double, yeah.

Reegs: How about, there's a few fans of the Arctic monkeys here.

Sidey: Oh yes.

Reegs: And a few online as well. We found out and Alex Turner from the Arctic monkeys is well known for incorporating

his

Dan: of the pod.

Reegs: sort of, yeah. In that we really like his stuff.

He incorporates lyrics and song titles famously in videos that draw inspiration from movies. So I got a few here, like the beginning of mean streets. You can be my baby. That's from knee socks. She's got a Barbarella silver swimsuit from Arabella. What do you mean? You'd never seen blade runner from star treatment.

Dorothy was right though on old yellow bricks two pretty big

Sidey: What a shame that

Reegs: there and the title of their debut album from a film. I haven't seen Saturday night and Sunday morning is the name of the film, but the line is obviously whatever people say I am That's what I'm not and has mentioned in his stuff old boy sympathy for mr.

Vengeance 2001 pink flamingos only fools and horses. Dr. No run Lola run amongst many others. So monkeys

Sidey: Yeah, it's really rad, yeah.

Dan: about King Kong though? And Kong?

Reegs: He's a monkey.

Dan: Yeah, well, I mean, this is just the year after Johnny Westmiller's

Reegs: it was 33 was Kong, wasn't it

Dan: 33 yeah, so it was 32

the

Reegs: Yeah. No, no, I was just working it out.

Sidey: 33, 2005 and 2017 were the classic.

Dan: and and this still is one of cinema's greatest achievements for that era in that age and You know, you'd still look at it now and Enjoy it because the, the practical effects, the, the empire states building Kong on the top suffering because of man's greed and it will show a star cross lovers and, you know, there's all this kind of going on.

And it's all, You know, film black and white as it would have been in those days and still look stunning. You know, it's a really just a fantastically cool

Reegs: just a fantastically cool and King Kong vs. Such a,

Dan: you know,

I think that's one of the The myths that Jambo the gorilla helped dispel the fact that gorillas were just big King Kong type things

Sidey: suddenly there

Dan: there was this gorilla that had stroked a kid's cheek and pushed back the other gorillas and things and and looked after the little kid. And you know, before then it was all King Kong, wasn't it? It was all like, wow, it's gotta be evil. And they're kind of, yeah.

Sidey: got to be Thanks, Chris. Killed on sight. any more?

Cris: Yes. I've got a movie that we all I think we all watched, or if we didn't, we all really loved. It's called Max Ur and it's from 1986,

a

Reegs: French movie. And the

Cris: with a

Reegs: Yes,

so

Cris: so that

has to be included, I thought, because it's a, it's an epic masterpiece of French cinema.

Yes, yeah, yes. And, and that's,

that's horny

That is from 1986. So they were ahead of their time.

They knew what they were doing. And

I, 10 years later 10 years later, I'm pretty sure it's 96. It could be 97. I remember going to the cinema for this George of the jungle. He is the white

Reegs: It's Brendan Fraser.

Cris: Yes. Yeah. Which is, is a parody kind of to, to Tarzan.

Reegs: That's good, this.

I

Cris: really liked it. I was obviously 11 years old when it came out.

But

I remember really watching it at the cinema, really enjoying it at the cinema and it features,

I think it's a chimp called Ape

it's

a talking monkey.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: So I remember, I remember that. It's kind of a Tarzan story, but he's

Reegs: That has a bit, we were talking about breaking the fourth wall, that has a bit of that going on in where

Cris: Yeah, he talked he talks. Yeah, he does talk as himself kind of with with the audience I think that's for me. That would probably be the first movie ever watched where he interacts with Me watching it, let's say so so yeah, that

Reegs: You and the monkey.

Dan: Did you ever see Tarzan's Magic Fountain?

Cris: Is

Reegs: I wasn't privileged enough.

Dan: yeah, no, that's a 1949 film. Where there's a magical fountain of youth, of course. And Tarzan, Tarzan, Tarzan,

bad people, Tarzan, Tarzan. But I just thought the the, the title itself was, was unique for the time and for now.

Sidey: To some TV ones friends. Ross has a monkey called Marcel, which is really quite like pivotal in series two. They lose him and run off and meet Mr. Heckles, and it's the first time I meet them recurring Mr. Hecker's character,

Reegs: the recurring Mr.

Heckles character. I did see some stats about

how much

Sidey: he's getting paid more

Reegs: Krusty's uh,

Sidey: him, for a start.

Well, no little monkey sidekick thing, which is complicit in all his shop thieving. His, his light fingered things. So in reality would have been stoned to death. I think if he'd been caught some other ones the umbrella Academy. Pogo is the butler and I'm really looking forward to season.

I think.

That's about we're not about to, but it will be coming out. And then Crystal the monkey is the hangover part two. It's the drug dealing capuchin

Cris: is

Sidey: Leslie Chow.

Cris: Part 2.

Sidey: Crystal. Crystal. Yeah.

Cris: drug dealing

This franchise, my love

Sidey: it's a mushroom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: I think I talked about this franchise and my love for it a long time ago. It was MVP most valuable primate it's a trilogy about the first is about chimpanzee named jack who plays hockey in the second mvb2 most vertical primer.

He's been ousted from the hockey team the seattle simians after being falsely accused of biting the fingers of another player and mvp3 I was actually mxp most extreme primate was the third, I've seen them all. Spy Mate was a the last appearance of Pat Morita.

Really?

Yeah released three months after his death, and completely defiles his legacy.

Has a A live action thing about a super spy primate who honestly foils an ISIS plot in the opening moments of the thing. But this is like a comedy adventure film. It does have a chase scene between a guy on a motorcycle and a monkey on a skateboard. And don't call yourself a fan of film if you haven't seen that sort of thing.

And oh, creepy symbol banging

Sidey: Yes! Yes! Toy Story!

Reegs: We had it in final Destin toy story. Yeah, we had it in final destination. The intro of that

Dan: Yeah, they normally probably in saw at some point

Reegs: rebel without a cause. Famously opens with him toying around with one of those. There's one in close encounters of the third kind and the Conjuring as well.

So that's a little tropey thing that they like to use to scare us.

Cris: My last one is I don't know if you've actually said it or not, but it's Manis AKA Clyde the orangutan. That was in a

Dan: which way but loose.

Cris: Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Dan: which way but loose I think

Reegs: And Any Which Way You Can was the sequel.

Cris: 80 and 80, both of them. And he, I remember him because he was dressed up. And I've never, I, I,

Dan: Yeah, real exploitation. It brings me. Memories of swiss

Sidey: to

Cris: me as a child,

Dan: No, right, yeah,

Cris: I was thinking this is the most hilarious thing I've ever

Dan: I think everybody was in the 80s. It's

Cris: I

Sidey: you got all the PG Tips adverts.

Reegs: Yeah. But even in the nineties as well, you had the Dunston movies and that had the fucking orangutan smoking a ciggy and slapping his ass on the camera and stuff.

Like

Dan: and stuff.

So I did want to

Cris: But, in

the original script, apparently the director had a scene where the orangutan was meant to perform cunnilingus to the French aristocrat lady, but he then cut it from the final scene because he thought it might be a little bit too much for the French audience.

Sidey: prudish,

Cris: so yeah, that's I, I thought I should, I should Put that in there, and I am

Dan: I'm I'm just looking over at Pete

Cris: gonna say I'm

Reegs: to say, I'm

Cris: Pete's reaction to

Dan: He's just had one of the the Tots it was sour candies and he is his face is

Sidey: He's on the floor.

Dan: into a

Reegs: He looks like he's gonna cry.

Sidey: Think, what, are we gonna whittle it down now?

Dan: I've got my last one which will be my entry

Sidey: Oh, well do it then, yeah, yeah, put it in.

Dan: Top top five. It's a firstborn

I don't know if you ever remember that film is with Charles dance

Reegs: Gawr! I'm Gawr! The fuckin simian

Dan: what it is, yeah, he's a genetic researcher intent on breeding primate hybrids and he manages to actually take like a human gorilla hybrid and to life.

Reegs: doesn't he beat him to death in the final

Dan: well I again I watched this when I was

quite young it was on I remember my mum and dad watching it I think in the same, come on do you Get the bed, like, you know, and we were first born and yeah, and it was just like a really strange, and it was one of the first times I saw Charles dance as well.

And it was, you know, that actor then I've seen in lots of films all the way through the years, but this was a good one.

Sidey: Bolo from Mighty Boosh for me

Reegs: i'm gonna go for project nim anybody seen that i'm maybe not going to say too much just in case you're nominated for the

Dan: Oh, okay.

Reegs: It's a documentary about a Couple who brought up a chimp kind of in their home trying to teach it sign language.

A little bit like the Premise about although he wasn't super intelligent, but it's a documentary about

Dan: Wow, okay.

Reegs: yeah

Cris: Okay. Mighty Joe Young.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Oh yeah.

Cris: at fifteen foot mountain gorilla who Charisse Theron I think it's 1998 if my information

Sidey: correct.

Reegs: There was an earlier movie though,

Cris: Yes, in the 40s, 1949, it's based on that one. I have to say I've never even heard of the 1949 one. I don't, I've never watched that one. I've watched the, the, the 1998 epic adventure film.

And I, I have to say for, for that kind of, It was quite an emotional thing. I remember watching it and obviously being very young, I actually thought that's how tall gorillas get.

Dan: think he won a few, I think he won a, I've

Cris: one in real life, until then.

Dan: I think he won an Oscar. This Girlilla, didn't he? Yes. Yeah. That's three. Three

Cris: Oh, did they? Oh, right, okay.

Dan: this film, it was

Cris: Okay. Well, there you go. That's, that's the one I've

Dan: Best ever. Yeah. Oscar?

Yeah.

Cris: fucking DiCaprio doesn't have three.

Dan: No, no, no. Well,

Sidey: And we'll leave the rest of the nominations open to the to the glorious public.

Dan: Wonderful.

Cris: Yeah.

Sidey: we've got the remnants of last week's sweets, which I didn't get to have last

Dan: I didn't get to have last week. Reeds brought around five boxes of nuclear waste or toxic waste and nuclear waste. We got through the Nuclear We didn't get through it all actually, it just went over the week as people popped in the man cave and I would dose them with some nuclear candy.

Now we got the toxic waste and Pete has already sampled its Yes, wincing,

Sidey: lively. Yeah. You do wonder what is in there ingredient

Dan: No, I do not. No, I do not.

Sidey: not. That makes that happen. But that segues very nicely into this week's main feature which is rise of the planet of the apes.

Yeah.

Dan: Rise of, the planet of, they've got a lot of ofs

Sidey: we're right in Ape Week. Yeah. Yeah. Mm.

Reegs: So this was after the sort of really shitty Tim Burton thing that they tried.

Sidey: Oh, was it?

Reegs: yeah.

Then they had another go at rebooting the Planet of the Apes with this one. 2011 I think it was. And it has spanned a number of sequels. Spawned even.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I had not seen any of these because I'd steered away from

Reegs: You were ape prejudice,

Dan: Yeah. I was scared. I was

Sidey: I, I, I avoided these like the plague as

Reegs: plague. Oh, have you? Have you seen this one before? No. Oh, right,

Sidey: I, I had avoided them like the plague. And I, so how I positioned this going into it was this was the one that was the equivalent of Planet of the Apes.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: And

so it's not like that.

Dan: No, well

Sidey: doesn't take place. It doesn't open up in a spaceship. It's more laboratory

Reegs: up in a spaceship. It's more laboratory based. Yeah, so it's

Sidey: so it's It is a scene

of cap capture and then lab animal testing. And although it appears that motives are,

noble aren't, I guess, we don't dunno that like explicit straight out the gate, but we know that there, that James Franco seems to have everyone's best interest at.

Dan: Yeah,

yeah, they're testing on on animals in a lab.

And with with the the operation of trying to cure alzheimer's and obviously that is You know, a very testing on animals is, is going to really get people from the beginning because it's a really emotive subject, but you, you see them in there and this whole kind of, you know, there's loads, isn't there?

There's loads of different apes and things all getting injected. And,

Cris: Yeah, but then this, it kind of goes quite, quite straightforward. Once you get the lab, you get to see bright eyes. Who is doing all these, is doing the

Sidey: she's one of the chimps that they've captured,

Cris: Yes. And, but she's doing

Dan: doing

Reegs: doing the manual dexterity

Cris: tower, the Joshua Tower or whatever it's

Reegs: building the tower in a, a set number of moves.

Dan: That, that's it. There's a, there's a minimum amount of moves

Sidey: She does it in something like

Reegs: Yeah, and 15 is the

Sidey: guy says the perfect score is 15, and so they're, they're impressed that she's I

Cris: After she's been given

Reegs: mean, this is not a very subtle movie. I don't know if we were debating about whether it was Alzheimer's or not. The drug is literally called ALZ. ALZ. 1 1 2 that they've given her. And she's like fucking about, like, obviously got hyper intelligence or, or what not. But during

Will, talking to stockholders and shareholders and the board,

Sidey: Well, he wants to escalate

Reegs: he wants more funding and all this stuff, he's talking about these amazing things that have happened with Bright Eyes.

And as this is happening, she escapes from the lab and goes on a fucking rampage

Sidey: Well, it's at first I think it's quite important because at first he is the one who's pushing for, we need to and we haven't seen his home life yet.

So he is pushing for, we're ready for human trials. This thing's amazing. Like we've seen that she can do a like fairly mundane test. And on this particular day, when it's happened, it just so happens to coordinate with dragons den style board meeting where all the investors Who are also board members coming in and he wants to announce on this particular day with no prep that I don't know if anyone's presented to a board meeting, but it just doesn't go like this

Reegs: fair, that is kind of the way that you've done it after a glass of wine on a Friday scene,

Sidey: Yeah that, that, This is all a okay, and we should start injecting this shit into human beings. But at the time that they're all in the board meeting,

some fucking doofus in the lab behind the scenes, like, completely fucks it in the ear and Bright Eyes gets out. It should be pointed out that she's called Bright Eyes because she has The, the medicine has given her a particular pigmentation color in her eyes.

And also, it was Yes, and she's gone fucking mental and it it's just swinging around the lab and gets out and it's causing all sorts of untold,

Reegs: are not, yeah, this is like a real monkey going completely berserk in it, so.

Sidey: These are not pets. These are wild animals. And this is CGI wild animals even worse and so she swings into the board meeting which causes all kinds of chaos and she's just gunned down.

Yeah. In front of all the potential investors. So

the,

Dan: so not a good board

Sidey: potential for the drug is just, like,

Reegs: for the

Dan: And we

Reegs: for the drug is just like dead. But yeah, so she's given birth and they find this child which will christen Caesar.

And he does the exact obvious and right thing to do, which is take it home and bring it up as your own child.

Sidey: Absolutely.

Dan: Well, he initially doesn't want to but they they're going to put them they've put down all the other gorillas and

Sidey: well, there's one there's a scientist there who's fat and and an idiot but lovable because he's fat.

And so he's like well, I can't I couldn't have killed this one

Dan: yeah that he'd done like all of them apart from this one. He said I if you want

Sidey: But he's gonna get sick, for his, for the payback for killing all those gorillas, he's gonna get sick.

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah, he's going to get that later. So, Will sort of reluctantly kind of takes in this chimpanzee, Caesar

Cris: we get to

Reegs: we, we find out that, we find out that the chimpanzee has inherited his mother's intelligence, probably.

Important to see that. And we see that through his life at home, his father, Charles, who is suffering very badly from Alzheimer's and dementia. He used to be a music teacher, but he can't play the piano anymore. But even the infant Caesar being around brings a kind of lucidity back to him. As Caesar demonstrates his remarkable like he has a baby bottle, doesn't he?

And he knows how to use it. Sort of even though he's like days old like I think they say he's like two days old at

Dan: the bottle up and feeding himself

Reegs: And then we kind of skip. Yeah, that's true. And we get some then one of two time skips. We skip three years into the future and we see that now he's got a sophisticated sign language, vocabulary, and also he can flip through his house a lot.

Sidey: He likes to look out a particular window.

Yeah. With a,

Reegs: the shape of the window will become a symbol.

And also Will himself has begun a sort of romantic relationship with a primatologist.

Sidey: Who's Fiat?

Reegs: Frieda Pinto, is that? Yeah, Fiat Pinto. And you know, Caesar is sort of already craving freedom, so they take him to the Redwood Forest for him to, like, run about.

And then we get another time skip forward, so we've established what's going on with all of that, oh, oh, we didn't say that Will gives his father the the drug because he is allowed to take any dangerous experimental proprietary drug and store it

Cris: no, he starts seeing his dad really going,

bad.

Sidey: I, I thought this was strange because his boss.

is super cautious at first and pivots. They both pivot the two of them. And so he, he takes the drug. His dad, his father is obviously deteriorating significantly, and he was hoping that the human trials would enable him to get this through in time to save his dad. And it hasn't happened like that.

So he steals some stuff, injects his father, which enables him to play the piano. Yeah.

Yeah.

Reegs: to jail.

Sidey: really good. Yeah. Yeah. John Lithgo, we should

Reegs: So let's go. Well, it gives him a completely repaired cognitive function. So he's back to how he was. It was really, truly remarkable.

Sidey: how he

Reegs: We're better

Dan: He's improving.

Reegs: better. Yeah. So, then we're going to get another time skip to five years later after we've seen him go up into the trees, the, the sort of, yeah, Caesar, and we're going to come back and we're still in a park and we're still revealing that.

Will is with Frida Pinto. She hasn't apparently noticed that he's got a hyper intelligent chimp really at home because he's going to explain his origins later. But anyway, there is a brief moment where they leave the park. I think really heartbreaking where he, you know, Caesar has noticed his collar, his collar, and he sees an Alsatian with a collar and there is a little confrontation, a nonviolent one, but it gets Caesar thinking, what am I?

He asks later, will Am I a pet? Yeah. And he says he's not. I think he says he's his son, doesn't he?

I think that's what he says to him because he's not going

Dan: He certainly, he certainly says he's not a pet.

Reegs: Yeah. So anyway, even though he's been walking around and he can use sign language and Will has apparently been dating Frida for five years, this is when he's now going to explain to her what's happened to Caesar to catch up the audience and all that stuff.

Heartbreakingly, Charles's Alzheimer's starts to return which is noticed by Caesar when he's eating and he turns his fork or something round for him.

Dan: turns his fork or something around for him. And Caesar is really distressed, genuinely, at what's

Reegs: is correcting the human over how to eat

Dan: think

Reegs: with a knife and fork.

Sidey: But that's the thing is that he, he's the, the, the medicine has an effect up to a certain point in time and then antibodies, something

Cris: Yeah, his body starts

Sidey: and it starts rejecting it and he just reverts back to how he was. And so he, he gets. He, he goes out and he's confused and he's doing what I guess dementia patients do is they don't know where they get all confused and they don't exactly know where they are and that leads to an incident which Caesar then tries to intervene and, and possibly has some rage issues.

Reegs: has some rage issues. a chimp, get the

Sidey: didn't order a chimp, get the fuck

Reegs: Yeah, so anyway, yeah, so this second incident is too much.

Sidey: he's got a baseball bat and a vest, so he's screaming white

Reegs: Caesar does end up attacking him and it's then the catalyst for the local animal control to take him into monkey

Dan: prison.

Doesn't he bite his finger

off?

Sidey: does, yeah.

He's a fucking guy deserved it. I thought

Dan: Bite your finger

Sidey: Yeah, yeah, fuck him.

Reegs: It's a bit much.

Sidey: I don't know It's

a trigger finger

Reegs: trigger. Well, they trick him, don't they? They bring

Sidey: sure shank.

Reegs: this, this kind of showroom. It's not even

Sidey: it.

Yeah

Dan: on the wall. It's also, it's Draco It's Draco. He's yeah. Who's looking after him? Yeah. And that's it. It's in these kind of corridor of, of smaller enclosures where cages really and then they're locked there until they're given their exercise every day or

so, whatever it is, then

Sidey: He's,

Dan: but his hose pipes are hosing them down and

Reegs: got horrible food. He throws it back at Malfoy,

Sidey: He's victimized for wearing clothes as well, isn't he? Yeah. He's different.

Reegs: They body shame him. Yeah. Yeah. Well that is actually the really, you know, he can't find his place in the human world. He can't find his place in the monkey world and he's going to create his own world instead. That's the central

theme of the movie and what a beautiful one it is. And so he is, It does turn prison story, right?

And so he needs to make friends. He makes friends with the circus orangutan. He notices rocket who is the the sort of alpha primate. He runs the whole place and terrorizes the other monkeys with

Dan: does he meet Kobo

Cris: Cobo? No, that's later.

Reegs: and buck who is an enormous gorilla, but has been caged off from the others and they will all feature in his plans for uniting the monkey world and escaping.

Dan: Well, he, he's a leader. You know, he straight away, he realizes he needs friends and he tells them. He does it strategically as well and he brings in people that are going to help him along the way as he, as he goes forward in, in escaping and, and getting

Cris: he gets beat up by rocket and then in the night he starts kind of seeing that he needs to make a plan and he sees, he sees the top of it. Once they go back in the open, he see, he goes all the way to the top of the dome of the enclosure. He looks at all the escapes where the guards are, where they hold their keys.

It's pretty much like Stallone in that movie

Reegs: Escape plan. Yeah.

Cris: Yeah, so he's

Reegs: And that's got, that's got the word ape in it.

Escape

Cris: So Caesar must have told Stallone how to do it.

Reegs: And he's one night Malfoy has some

Cris: people over, I found that very strange, but

Reegs: Come to my work where it's my monkey prison.

Sidey: And it's an

Reegs: an act of seduction

Sidey: Yeah, it's weird. Because it wasn't the super, like, horniest place in the world. No. It's fairly, like, grimy and

Reegs: in the cage. It's stinks of shit down there

Sidey: Does that get

Reegs: Does that get you in the mood?

I don't know and He steals Yeah, he does and it all becomes part of his master plan because of course he'll learn what he thought was only a temporary Stay here from his father inverted commas. Will is actually going to be permanent

Sidey: Yeah. dun.

Dan: Yeah.

Cris: We do see that Will tries to get him out and he's like, listen, lady, I'm not waiting 90 days. I'm going to get him out. And she's like, you're lucky you get a

Dan: He's stuck.

Cris: You're lucky they didn't put him down. So, and then obviously he goes to visit and you see Brian Cox that he's or Brian Cox. Michael Cox, Brian Cox,

Reegs: Cox, yeah.

Cris: He's he's not really happy with them being there. He's like, all right, time's up. You've had enough. And he's like, Oh, can I go home? No, no, you can't. So then he realizes I need to find my place among the monkeys because I can't be home.

Reegs: Apes together strong Chris is what he

Cris: That is what he says. This demonstrating it with a stick because the orangutan says that apes are stupid.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: And he then figures that he. Before he escapes, he needs to figure out a way of making them smarter.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: So before, once

Sidey: if any, if any, there was a drug that could

Cris: well, that's the thing, because in

Reegs: only they were developing an aerosol based version.

That would be really handy. Well, two

Cris: so He

figures out a way to, he opens his own cage door. He, he, and he gets the apes together. First, he gets buck to submit the rocket.

Reegs: Yeah. With the little palm gesture. Yeah. Yeah. The little upward palm stroke.

Cris: doesn't

even fight him. He just has buck next to him and was like, right, that's it. You're not the alpha anymore. This guy's the alpha. He gives all the, it makes this guy give all the, the apes biscuits.

And then he escapes by himself, goes to John, whatever his name is. Franco's home

Sidey: It's

in the fridge, isn't it,

the

Cris: steals the. Tubes, and then he goes back and then throws them in into the ape

Sidey: because it's in the, in the lab world, it's pivoted from Franco being like, no, we need to be like more careful to the, and the boss is like all going home now.

It's like, no, this is ready. We need to escalate

Cris: because Franco goes

Sidey: So they're, they're, they're

Cris: tells

Sidey: this stuff in

Cris: I've I know it works. I've tested it on my father and he's like,

Reegs: Great news. Let's start pumping it millions of these

Cris: Yeah. And he's like, right. We're going to do the same. Like we always thought you're going to get your

Sidey: You'll be famous, I'll be rich. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So.

Sidey: Well, see, he nicks two vials.

Cris: And he stabs them and

Sidey: he gets them back to where the, where they're all being kept in captivity. He stabs them both and rolls them nicely down the hallway where all the aerosol is, is pumped out into the atmosphere.

And they're all now super fucking clever.

Reegs: Yeah. And they can all stand straight. Yeah. 'cause being super intelligent makes your spine straighten.

Sidey: I'm still waiting for that to happen to me because my

Cris: And also, in the lab, we get introduced to Koba.

Reegs: Yes.

so Cobra is a sort of disfigured monkey who is always a bit, he's got a bit of an aura of evilness about him even before he becomes a hyper intelligent one. He is exposed to the ALC 113, the gas based version that Franklin guy manages to knock a tube out or something and gets himself infected, doesn't he?

Sidey: It's lethal to humans, but not so to gorillas.

Reegs: so he's going to be responsible for the end of the world as well.

Dan: Yeah, he's another one.

Reegs: Will is going to take, when he quits, he's still going to take the drug home for his father, isn't he? But his father is going to refuse treatment and then sadly

Cris: Yeah,

overnight, yeah.

Sidey: I think probably a good choice, given everything that's about to

Reegs: couldn't have let that happen.

Disgruntled apes. Well

Sidey: apes. Disgruntled apes.

Reegs: night of the canisters. They all come out and

Sidey: That's

Cris: after the night of the canisters, they're releasing, they all come out and you can see the yellow in their eyes.

Sidey: I think, is it Brian Cox who walks through and just looks and they're

Reegs: and they're

Sidey: there and he's like

Reegs: It's like they're having a meeting and they all look at him and then suddenly they go back Oh, you know quick throw some shit at me John or whatever

Sidey: throw some shit at me,

Cris: he goes home for the weekend and then you can kind of see that there's a plan in motion.

Sidey: But first of all, there's been bullying and wretchedness by Draco. Yeah, get his cover. And his sort of underling, his, you

Reegs: his The other guy is like a reluctant sidekick.

But

Dan: Sidekick

Reegs: on

Sidey: but not he's not all in on the violence

Dan: No,

Reegs: he doesn't like to torment them as much, so they spare him.

Sidey: been violence and so because we're going to get the moment this horrible throwback moment I really hated where They get hold of it's obviously, it's not Malfoy, but

it's the same guy. I can't remember his name. And, and, and it's Caesar who actually gets

Reegs: Yeah, yeah,

Sidey: gets his paws on him.

And he says, get your hands on me, you damn dirty ape. And you're

Reegs: And it undercuts a great moment, which is when Caesar does speak and says

Sidey: no,

Reegs: Yeah. So yeah, real shame, but

it is

Sidey: Probably there's loads of people who fucking love that shit. I don't like that.

Reegs: I didn't like the callback, but I did like the Caesar speak because for this movie, it made you believe maybe a monkey wasn't going to speak in it.

And then it is a power when he says his first word. It's a powerful moment, an act of defiance. So yeah I, I liked it. Anyway, he electrocute, they electrocute him, don't they? Give him a

Sidey: Yeah, because there's been this stuff about the cataprods and the hose and all that. So they, they turn that back on him and they use that to get out. And the whole lot of them are now free.

Reegs: whole lot of them are now free. It's a big kind of drone shot, isn't it? A

Sidey: Well, it's a big, big kind of drone shot, isn't it? An overhead shot of them all getting out there.

They're all coming over the top of this big landmark and you can see the bridge there. This is where it's all going to go

Reegs: to go

Sidey: And

also

Cris: for me, this was the one that I really found bizarre with Frank, with Jacobs, the, the lab leader guy who gets in the police helicopter.

And then he, all of a sudden, like straight away, Oh, they're being led.

Reegs: It's that monkey. I know exactly which one it is. Yeah.

Cris: how do you even,

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: He just came into work with his phone on his ear. Just like, Oh, Mr. Jacobs, this happened. He comes in, all the monkeys run after him. And then he's like, right. They're being led.

That's the leader. Fuck. You know,

Reegs: yeah. It's brilliant, isn't it?

Cris: wouldn't, I don't know. Poirot wouldn't figure that one out.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: anyway, they're funneled, they're funneled into this area where it's foggy.

This is the Golden Gate Bridge.

Reegs: The police and SWAT teams are readied with cars and But then you, even I was thinking, Well, they're not going to come along the road though,

Sidey: I know, it doesn't take

Reegs: A horse goes first, which is

Sidey: Caesar does some blah blah and some hand signals, it's like, basically, you fuckers go underneath, you dickheads go over the top, and a few of us will go along and we'll draw their fire, and you can, you know, pince the movement,

Reegs: Yes, we get some good ape mayhem now, people being thrown around

Sidey: Great guerrilla

Reegs: great scene where the pilot keeps the helicopter conveniently near the bridge. So an 800 pound gorilla can throw itself into it.

Brilliant. Love that. You get Cobra doing Caesar's dirty work for him

Dan: turn a bus on its side, don't they?

And start walking it towards the shooters to as cover and, and protection

Sidey: That's the, that's the main decoy, isn't it? They go behind the bus, all the while there's loads of Oorangs and others underneath that are going to come out behind the SWAT team. And the

Dan: they're just under prepared for the intelligence.

Sidey: Well, they didn't, yeah, no one, no one expected like intelligent gorils, but then here we are.

Dan: Here they are, yeah.

Reegs: Will at home knows exactly where the monkeys are heading, which is out towards the redwood forest and he tracks down Caesar there.

I believe he's nearly attacked by Cobra

Dan: Yeah, he is No! Yeah. Another no.

Reegs: And they have an emotional chat where Will says, you know, come home with me, let's end this

Sidey: Caesar is

Reegs: he says that Caesar is home, which Will accepts. And we watch as they fungal off into, fungal?

Sidey: Fungal

Reegs: themselves off into the jungle,

Dan: I think they're fungal

Cris: jungle

Reegs: to

Sidey: ruthless kills. So there's a guy, it's the main guy from the company that's been doing all the experiments. He's in the chopper. And it's Cobra's, Cobra the guy, I mean it's like a classic tilting on the edge of the bridge and save me, save me, save me and Cobra just gets his simian paw on the Helicopter and fucking murders him.

Dan: bit of a

Reegs: a gentle push.

Sidey: I thought, wow,

Reegs: And in the end credits over the end of the movie we see the next door neighbour punished for not wanting a chimp at his daughter's Party or his car being destroyed, punished for that by being the harbinger of death. By

Cris: he was sneezed on by

Reegs: Franklin.

By Franklin. Yeah. And

Cris: then now he's a pilot and it's actually,

Sidey: So it's a patient zero.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: yeah, but the way they do it with a plane, like, I think it flies from San Francisco to New York. Somewhere near Paris, I think. Yeah. On the map. And then

Reegs: splinters off

Cris: Paris. It just kind of, yeah. It looks like other planes and other planes just goes all over the world and he's Contaminated everyone.

Reegs: Yeah. So the apes will inherit the earth and the substance that made them intelligent will kill off humans. Positioning the movie for sequels, which may or may not happen. Who knows?

Sidey: Don't know.

Dan: Well, it did happen because I watched that one after this because I quite enjoyed this movie. I surprised I I wasn't into this whole kind of stream of films

we watched the The Charlton Heston one for the midweek. And that was the one that put me off all the others in the original.

And I didn't even know James Franco was in this. I didn't know any, anything about it because I just steered away from it. And I think sometimes when you, you're going in quite low expectations, then this seemed to deliver a little bit higher than that. And I, I enjoyed it. It was A, a decent story and yeah, I thought the, the arc of, of Caesar and everything and the, the story you could see that he's gonna run and run.

Yeah. James Franco, he was decent in this as well. Quite liked him.

Reegs: liked him. I did not enjoy

Sidey: did not enjoy this. No. And when he said, no, I died a little bit inside. I thought it was rubbish. I thought all, I thought the apes were better performers than the

Reegs: were better

Sidey: but no, I didn't really get, I really like the Heston one.

So I really enjoyed that. It's just a little bit of a pointless CGI ramble fest.

I didn't really get a lot out of it.

I must admit, speaking about it, I thought it sounded better when we were talking about it. Maybe I must have been a prick when I was watching it, but I didn't, it didn't do much for me. I'm not, I'm not big into apes.

Reegs: big into

Sidey: I'm pretty apes. You do like apes on the other hand, Yeah,

Dan: I must admit, I'm, I'm not keen of animals being featured in films and, and the, obviously this is

Reegs: is CGI

Dan: But that's another reason why I, I don't know, I've, I've never really, not for Planet of the Apes and this one at all, but, Yeah, I've never been drawn into ape films or anything like the Clint Eastwood one we mentioned earlier, Every Which Way By Lucy.

Even as a kid, it seemed a little bit weird to be dressing animals up into hats and cigars and all the rest of it. Obviously, they don't do this in this one, and it is just a, a you know, they can guns and everything, don't they? I mean, it's all, it's all nuts, but I quite, you know, it was, it was, Silly, but I, I quite enjoyed it.

Yeah,

Sidey: Well I

Reegs: well I think this is in some ways a very silly, dumb movie with a quite lazy don't play God type, you know, theme to it. But what with loads of funny. Plot holes that we pointed out you know, taking viruses home and putting them in your fridge, treating it on your dad, like loads of not noticing these pregnant, all that stuff that we pointed out funny and loads, loads more.

It could really take you out of the movie, but Caesar is one of the greatest CGI characters I think of all time and his arc in this movie of him trying to find his place in the world is a good

Dan: one.

Reegs: and you can see why it became a great jumping off point for other movies. And every time Caesar is on screen, he's a captivating character.

His story is really

Sidey: We Just had very

recently released Kingdom of the Planet of this. I'm assuming that's Caesar

Reegs: I'm assuming that's Caesar, with the horse back. The one after this, Dawn of

Dan: Alright, because the one that I watched after this, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, kicks off when, you know, we're we're, the human race, human race has been wiped out and there's just a few of them left, and apes believe that they're alone, you know, they haven't seen them for a couple of winters and things but I watched, yeah, yeah, that's right, but I, I watched That one just because i'd enjoyed this one, you know, I thought oh right and it was largely as you say Just because of this kind of ape character caesar who who was an interesting definitely interesting character.

Yeah

Sidey: nice

Cris: I enjoy, I enjoyed it the first time I watched it.

This is the second time I watched it. I think I watched it when it came out. I, I think I enjoyed it more the first time. I wouldn't, I'm not going to rush to watch it anytime soon. I knew James Franco. I watched it before. As I said, I quite liked it. I thought John Lithgow played the character quite well out of all the humans in it.

And Franklin to an extent because he didn't have much of a role in it, but he was actually fairly good. Obviously, like Reed says, there's a few things that you can pick on or whatever. The story itself is quite good. It's kind of almost like an underdog. Animal beats the

Sidey: Undermonkey.

Cris: Which I quite like, there's no more color and he's gets to speak, which animals that usually speak are, I don't know, either mocked or a cartoon or, you know, something like that.

So this is a more serious cartoon animal come to life where is, and it, because I, I think I've seen the next two. I can't remember the names of it because I'm always confused which, which one is which, but I have seen the next two and I do, I did enjoy all of them.

Sidey: Is james franco a recurring

Cris: no, that's it, this is the only one he's

Sidey: okay

Cris: Again, it's, it's, it's not going to win any Oscars, but as a movie to,

Reegs: did win a few Oscars, I

Dan: I,

think

Cris: well CGI, but anyway, I don't know. For me, it was all right. It was, it was not too long. It's no more than an hour and a half, I think. Which is long enough for me is, it was good.

Sidey: that sounds like a strong recommend.

Cris: Yeah.

Sidey: By Curious Boy George. Yeah. Had you any familiarity with this

Reegs: with this? Oh, I have watched countless hours of this. Oh, have you? Yeah,

Sidey: Oh, well, I had watched countless hours of this in the past. Yeah, my daughter had a toy of it. Oh. And when I was watching it for this, you know, it's the thing with the, I've got the toy of this and the blah, blah, blah.

Dan: I'm surprised we've not done this before, to be honest this cartoon. Yeah,

Sidey: Well, now we

Dan: But now we have, I mean, it fits

Sidey: Curious George.

And it's I, it's George, the little chimp thing his mysterious yellow hatted owner.

Reegs: yellow

Sidey: Yeah. Yellow

Reegs: owner. Yeah, seems that kind

Dan: Inspector Gadget kind of thing going on, but yeah.

Reegs: there is an origin story.

Dan: Yeah. Seems that kind of guy. I think there is an origin story.

Reegs: Well, we didn't get that. We got an episode about a car wash.

Dan: Right. it?

I haven't seen this car wash

Sidey: wash. It's, it's one of those shows where they will drill down into some sort of minutiae of everyday life.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: And and it's educational for the viewer.

Reegs: So they, yeah, they take them to an, they're expressing some interest in car washes, as you do.

So the Mr. Yellow Hat.

Sidey: do you know what his, because his name is exposed in it. Ted Shackleford. Yeah. Never in the series, but in the movie is Ted Shackleford. Yeah.

Reegs: Ted Shackleford takes them down to the automated car wash, which is stocked by a granny wearing looks like, get up, ready for a wet t shirt

Sidey: competition.

And

Reegs: she pulls them through the Automated car wash and we get great detail like you said

about

when

the water goes on and the soap and the the

Sidey: How it works. All the rest of

Reegs: shit goes on for quite a while That's him there and so taken by this idea is curious george and his neighbor

Sidey: the Mr. neighbor

Dan: Mr neighbor,

Sidey: wash. Yeah. Yeah. Around

Dan: Is

this Will Ferrell that plays?

Sidey: in the movie? In the movie? Not in

Reegs: he did it in the series or not.

I'm not sure. It wasn't in this

Sidey: one.

No. It is way too low brow for him for.

Reegs: So there's a there's a squirrel that gets involved in the plot for a little while. And then George assembles the stuff that he needs to make the homemade car wash for his toy

Sidey: he uses a

Reegs: a

paint rollers as well in the end, it's quite good. But he's quite, he's chaos basically, Curious George. He rifles through the house, steals the

Sidey: Yeah,

Reegs: the yellow brimmed hatty guy. I can only assume he was on prescription cannabis of some sort because he doesn't seem to give a shit about

Sidey: He's very laissez faire about all the stuff that's going on, yeah.

Reegs: in his house.

Steals his stuff, he's just happy about that.

Dan: Oh George

Reegs: and He's got, there's some sort of miniscule bee plot where he's got water in his ear, which is resolved when he bends down to look at the invention that he's

Dan: when you've got it water in your ear it

Reegs: not very nice, is

Dan: Yeah, and sometimes you just you know, you're doing something else in

Sidey: need a monkey to help you get through it.

Dan: That's all you need

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: so that's it. It fixes his watery ear at the

Sidey: end. It's it's 11 minutes long,

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: which is less than Half an hour. Yeah, so that's good. Yeah it's quite nicely animated. I would say

Reegs: would say.

Sidey: but It's just a lot of episodes of talking, which is great if you're watching it with a real little one.

Because you can plonk them down and they might really be interested in this, this, this minutiae of detail that they're talking about.

Reegs: Not a lot for you

Sidey: I found that there wasn't a lot, it wasn't multifaceted enough to keep me entertained for the

11 minutes. I did find it very, very difficult to concentrate on this for the 10 minutes that was on the screen.

No. No, it wasn't. Yeah, it was Sunday afternoon. And it coincided with the football, which maybe I was checking the football scores. But I did find it harmless and probably educational, but probably not sufficient enough for me personally to, to stay engaged.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: I was just In my research found out they did a video game to

Sidey: Oh, there's loads of it.

Reegs: Oh, it's big, big stuff. Yeah. Bo here, George. Yeah.

Dan: It really went off the charts I

Reegs: He

I thought this was okay. I quite enjoyed this. Yeah, like you say, looked good. It's got some noodley incidental type jazz music that

Sidey: sound track is

Reegs: it. Yeah, inoffensive. I don't think it realistically portrays what it would be like to live with the monkey is my only thing about it.

And I wonder how long it would be before all of the man in the Yellow Hat stuff had been completely destroyed, all of it.

Sidey: Day one, I would imagine.

yeah.

Dan: and and did you know that this had a spinoff called bangkok bob?

Reegs: Get to Fuck.

Dan: it's got a spin off. It's been inspired and Yeah, that's that's something else I don't think they've put an animation to that book yet, but is Bangkok Bob

Sidey: Yeah,

Right, okay. I don't know if I believe you, but

Dan: Well Wikipedia had never lied to me

Reegs: No, that's

Sidey: true. Yeah, very strong recommend.

Reegs: very strong

Cris: very strong. Yeah,

Reegs: But I think very much in keeping with the storyline, it was like a mini version of our main feature

Dan: of our another solid solid week of films and fun and frolics and

foods

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: foods. Kind of snippet episodes because I'm away

Dan: i'm away.

Reegs: I'm away.

Sidey: Yeah

Cris: I'm here.

Sidey: The week after that

Dan: go to Ireland just in case there's any Irish

yeah, in case there's any Irish

Cris: Dublin.

Sidey: got nominations for the week after this if anyone wants to Know what they are?

Dan: do. Go

Sidey: You've got you get but first of all you have to choose So you've got a an amphibian episode or you've got a sword based episode

You

want the sword

Reegs: I've got the top 5 swords.

Sidey: we're top five swords

Reegs: for

Sidey: so this is not

for

Reegs: is not

Sidey: this is not for That's for the week after.

Yeah. It's top five swords. Yeah. And then the mid weeker is Blind Fury. Oh,

Reegs: okay.

Sidey: Auer.

Reegs: Er, yeah.

Dan: Sharp.

Sidey: The

main feature ignore the dates. It doesn't work, but it ghost dog wear the Samurai.

Dan: Right, okay.

Sidey: And the kids thing is Samurai jack.

Dan: Ooh. Ooh, he could have been Pat Sharp and the Funhaus.

Sidey: It could have been, Dan, but it's not.

Dan: It's not okay.

Sidey: not? Whoa. But that's something to look forward to for like a fortnight's time. Until then, all that remains is to say sidey signing out.

Reegs: farewell. Reegs is, is God, get a better way to say goodbye.

Cris: La revedere.

Dan: Dan's gone.