Midweek Mention... The Jackal

The Jackal

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after a few weeks away in the wilderness.

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Cris: How wonderful to see you all in the same room again. I'm very pleased that we've all made it in this afternoon.

Sidey: Yes

Cris: Or morning, depending what, where and where you are on the Meridian.

Sidey: Have you been doing hard physical labor? Are you

Cris: have been, although I have to say, if I'm getting paid for the labor I've done today, I'm winning because I've done fuck all.

Dan: Oh.

Cris: we moved the shed. Nice. And we've seen some horses. I actually managed to pet a couple of the horses. They were really nice.

Dan: Well that that kind of segues nicely into this week's midweek mention

Sidey: does indeed. Dr

Reegs: indeed. Dr.

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Hyde with bruce with bruce almighty and who else was in it? Um

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Dan: Jermaine Greer and bruce foresight No, this is the

Sidey: on, are we, are we actually ready?

Dan: born. Ready?

Reegs: about.

yeah,

Sidey: Cool. Shall we get into it?

Long since nominated, finally reviewed we're going to talk about The Jackal.

Cris: talk about Jackal. Yes, the Jackal, not the day of the Jackal, not to

Sidey: confused.

Dan: No,

This is the 97 film,

Sidey: You, you believe it

Dan: you believe it to be the definitive version. I think there are other versions out there that that may be even more definitive. But this is Bruce Willis

Cris: Richard Ge

Sidey: The last ever appearance of

Reegs: Sidney Poitier. Sidney Poitier,

Cris: yeah. Sydney. Yeah. I forgot about him.

Snuffed

Sidey: about 3

Dan: really Okay.

Reegs: after this. Adding some much needed gravitas to this movie.

Sidey: Starts off with a little bit of Soviet iconography and

Reegs: It's like the, the national anthem. And then it devolves into something that sounds suspiciously somewhere like bad nineties, electronica, new metal type thing. And some shots of the strength of the Russian military and then the fall of the Berlin wall and the fall of the Soviet union, really fucking hammering home where we are

Dan: Setting scenes.

Reegs: yeah.

And then the movie really kind of opens with a sort of joint American Russian task force infiltrating a. Snowy Moscow and a club where a terrorist

Ghazi

Sidey: Yeah, he's Azer by Johnny Mafia. Yeah. I'm told

Cris: yes.

Dan: They're badass.

Sidey: Yeah. He's gotta be taken down or taken in.

Reegs: Yeah. He left his DNA at the scene or something.

Some murder. Yeah. Jizz at the scene, whatever it was. And Murad's really offended at the presence of the FBI being there. That's when Sidney Poitier makes himself known. And then he calls Slovo, who's this like, badass Scarface girl major who's leading the team. He calls her a, a scum face cunt.

Sidey: That's harsh.

Reegs: And then

there's a big ruckus, there's a big attack, and this Koslova, she, she's attacked by Murad, and she fatally shoots him, and there you go.

Dan: Scum face cunt.

Gets yeah, she gets her, her own back. And we're off. Because this is set a chain reaction, a, a, a kind of put in part where they realize there's a terrorist that they haven't got and they really want to get him.

His name is the Jackal.

Reegs: Well, his, this guy's older brother, basically. Then it, the action moves to Helsinki, I think it

Sidey: it does. Yeah, he's disgruntled.

Reegs: he is very disgruntled. You wouldn't want to be a henchman working for this guy because one of them is swiftly offed for not

Dan: axe through the head.

Reegs: of a resistant axe through the back of the head. Yeah.

Dan: That's right, because they'd ask, oh, okay, well Bloody I would have killed this

Sidey: Oh bloody hell.

Dan: but You know, how many did you kill and he goes? Oh, it wasn't really like that You know, the police stormed us. It was a nightclub. They they took his bicycle what so that was it? This shows the level of this guy's patience and his temper is is very sore

Reegs: And it spurs him into hiring, like you said, the Jackal, who was introduced to us, Bruce Willis, watching a documentary on hyenas.

I think

Jack Jackals would've been sort of more thematically relevant, wouldn't they? But,

Sidey: more thematically relevant,

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: they? And they

Dan: and they meet in a hotel room where the Jackal You you don't need to know you want to contact the Jackal you

Sidey: It's like the A Team.

Dan: Yeah, no, there's obviously ways in

Reegs: So his number is,

Dan: Yeah, that's right.

Sidey: a freelancer now.

Dan: And, and so his number is his contact details are available for those that can pay the

Sidey: I just Google it

Dan: And he's looking for 70 million to off a photograph for somebody we don't actually get to see, but he says, yeah, I can do it. 35 million now, 35 when it's done.

Cris: speaks very professionally though.

He sounds like he's in control.

Reegs: Yeah, he, he's like really understated. There's like a real economy of movement and stuff as well. Like you say, he's always control of the situation, speaks in a low voice. That sort of thing says it will be 70 million.

The guy goes, ha ha ha ha. Why not? He does,

Dan: okay. Why not and he goes well look and if it's not on It's been leaked or anything like that.

I call it

Sidey: know If if it's leaked then

Dan: They've done something before and he will say, you know If if it's leaked then it's my decision whether i'm gonna call it off and it's my decision whether to give you any of that Money back as well and the guy goes Yeah, alright, so he's accepted these terms and the jackal begins work.

He starts looking at certain venues he's got a million different disguises, isn't

Sidey: let's talk

Reegs: Right, let's talk about the disguises.

Because it's the most fun part of the movie is seeing Bruce Willis in all these different

Sidey: disguises.

it's

Cris: amazing though. Did anyone Blonde Blue Withers?

Reegs: I didn't do a wig count, no, but

Sidey: There was a lot.

Reegs: there was a few different sort of characters he had? He had Jim Carrey from Me, Myself and Irene was one of them, yeah?

Sidey: One of the ones, the most curious one to me was when he was trying to be, you know, he was always trying to be, you know, incognito or whatever, with the platinum blonde hair

Cris: I mean, the blonde.

Sidey: like, to like blend into a

Reegs: in. Yeah. And we get to see him in a fat suit acting all sweaty as a sort of ginger Canadian. It even gives it like,

Dan: bit of a It's

definitely

Reegs: the most. And then this part is a bit procedural, like how the jackal does his plan. We see him with his shirt off like carchering a van. And we see him meeting Jack Black for the first time. That's when he's in the, me, myself and Irene

Dan: Yeah, and we J. K. Simmons, he also makes a an appearance in a

little

Sidey: little while.

Reegs: over the internet voice recognition.

It's amazing.

Sidey: Yeah,

Dan: well this was top of the range, so he's ordering

Sidey: a

Dan: 000 worth of gun. I don't think it did that badly to be honest. I mean, it's

Sidey: It did.

Dan: Voice recognition into a computer?

That's kind of what you do now, isn't

Reegs: it?

He's fitted up with various passports by Zoe Saldana, I think it is.

Sidey: Well, he also meets when he goes to the bank, his It's just before the gun bit, I think it's He uses the bank's computer to do it. It's Leslie Phillips. Remember him? Oh, is it? Yeah. guy? Yeah. The old sort of, carry on and, and very sort of

Reegs: cheesy. Was that who it was? Yeah, okay, crazy. It's sort of like this thing where the movie shows you, like, some plot, and then the FBI have to catch up in some way.

So in this bit, I think they find they've been watching the house in Helsinki, and they are Some guy

Cris: Yeah. one of his henchmen,

Reegs: of his henchmen who goes to the post office twice a week or whatever. He's the guy who's obviously in touch with the outside world and they bring him in and they torture him. And there's all this moralizing from the Americans because the Russians are doing the torturing.

Who would have ever thought of Americans doing torturing? Certainly not them in 1997. And it puts them on essentially on the, they find out about the jackal. They. Led to believe by some documents that they find that it's going to be the, a hit on the FBI director. And it's going to be this Jackal guy, but they don't know who he is.

There's only like one person in the world who knows

Who

the Jackal

Cris: How he actually looks

Sidey: better go and get

Cris: they know who he is, but, or they know who he is, but they don't know how he looks like. They know he exists, they know all that, but there's like, there's only one or two people in the whole world because he would, that's when they tell you that he was former KGB.

You know, the, the lady with a scar, the Russian officer, she says, Oh yeah, we've used them in the past. And apparently he's got some connection with the

Sidey: Declan,

Dan: and this

Cris: then they,

Reegs: So then, yeah, so the connection is this woman, but to find this woman, they have to find Richard Gere, who's introduced shadow boxing in prison to prove that he's tough and then never does anything tough in the rest of the

Sidey: anything

Dan: that's right. He, he's

Reegs: Sporting the world's worst Irish

Dan: He's, he's an Irish, he's an Irish

Cris: one of the worst. Yes. I mean, it's, it doesn't sound Irish

at all.

Sidey: movie like in a flash

Cris: It doesn't

Sidey: you're like what is this

Dan: he was strong.

Sidey: He had a vocal coach for this role

Reegs: role. Did he really?

Yes. I

think he should have put down the gerbils and,

Sidey: I know

Reegs: had a bit more practice to be honest.

Sidey: This is not Gary Oldman level. He does. He wanted to have a goatee and they wouldn't let him. And I think he also,

Reegs: though in the

Sidey: he shaves it off at the start. They had to, they had, for some reason they placated him by saying, okay, we'll show you shaving off your

Reegs: show you shaving off your They're gonna fuck him off and he

Sidey: And he, he, they're going to fuck him off and he says, well, I met I've, I've met the jackpot. They're like, Ooh, wow. Okay. You're in with your fucking weird accent. They got on really well. The two of them as well. Just,

Reegs: and Gere

Sidey: gear and Willie's vows to never, ever work together again.

Reegs: They're barely in any scenes together,

Sidey: would walk past each other and say, how's your movie going?

Cause they were never in it.

Cris: going because

Sidey: so childish.

Dan: How's going?

Reegs: That's pretty funny.

Cris: funny. But yeah, that's when they go to see the woman who actually has seen him.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: That's another one. Did anyone else find this really strange? That the husband's there and she's like, My Irish guy! Oh my God! And she just kinda almost melts in his arms and the husband's there with the two kids just like,

Okay, yeah, I'll just

Dan: cuck?

Sidey: He's a cuck. He's a cuck.

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah.

they've probably got one of those chairs in their bedroom facing the bed. The C,

Sidey: bed. The guy in the

Reegs: You know,

Sidey: chair. It's implied. I think it's implied.

Reegs: in the hotel. You've always got a cut chair in the

Sidey: corner of the room.

Cris: that what it's there

Reegs: Yeah, that's what it's there for. Yeah. Is it? Yeah. No

Sidey: in those chairs normally.

Cris: Well, no, yeah, of course,

Sidey: But that's a bit off topic.

Cris: Yeah, anyway, but yeah, we we've not seen the chair in this movie though. So we're not, you know, we're not gonna argue on

Sidey: No, it's implied. Yeah.

Reegs: She, she is a former terrorist, I guess, who started a new life with, like you say, with this guy

Cris: Yeah, ETA, ETA, she was,

Dan: And, and through their earlier, kind of shenanigans.

They were lovers and friends and they both met the jackal at this kind of stage. He's doing all he can to keep her out of it because he, he doesn't want her involved. So he said,

Reegs: Wow, and also as we'll find out, he's got a history of getting women killed for some reason.

He

Dan: can't look after his women.

Sidey: Yeah, he says that, doesn't he? And so, this, this fucking, right, I'll get into it, it's too long. And

Reegs: about to come up to the best

Sidey: But we get some weapons training.

No,

Reegs: the gay bar!

We're about to come on to the gay bar because

he sets up a future alibi basically by hooking up.

This is an amazing sequence, which Willis apparently fought to keep in the movie. So he goes to a gay bar, picks up a guy, kisses, we get a good little gay

Cris: there's a good gay kiss, I like that.

Reegs: Although I didn't think, you know, Willis is a good actor. I did not think he was into it. I don't know. I could have maybe

Sidey: But if he fought to keep it in, maybe he Did think that he was into

Reegs: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. So yeah, he's going to set that little alibi up. It's nice little scene. And then we get the Jack Black

Sidey: Yeah. Some weapons. So we haven't spoken about the weapon other than say that he bought it. It is not your, you know, it's not a sniper rifle that we're dealing with here.

It's a super

Dan: It's like a Gatling

Sidey: caliber.

Reegs: The bullets are, I don't know, they do describe

Sidey: the 50 mil or something,

Reegs: it was. I don't know. But they're bigger than like a finger. A lot bigger than a

Cris: Oh, wow.

Sidey: I think they're 50 mil. I have got stats about the gun.

Reegs: They might have been seven, six twos, but I'm not sure.

I dunno they said that

Sidey: so what he ordered was a large mock up of a Soviet designed KPV. And I can't really pronounce this very well. Kropnok Ali Bernali.

Vladimirova heavy machine gun. But what they actually used was an American M two HB 50 MBG heavy machine gun with parts.

Dan: hp. Isn't that a

Sidey: Yeah. With lots slightly bigger than a finger,

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: With lots of bars added onto it to make it look like the KPV. The name

Reegs: Did look like the KPV.

Sidey: 33 is actually fictional from the

Dan: not to the train guy. It didn't Simon

Sidey: But it's mounted, it's, it's it was going to be mounted in the back of a car. The he, he basically gets Jack Black to,

Reegs: yeah.

Dan: engineer

Sidey: fuck he thinks he's going to do.

Stand, it, it, it sort of talks to him as if they're mates, you know, he's an ally or whatever, he's going to keep around. And the audience are thinking, you're fucking dead

Reegs: Well, he tries to extort him pretty much straight away. He's got this fucking massive gun, tries to extort him.

Sidey: setting up the

Reegs: oh, well let's, let's go out to the countryside to do a live fire test.

And he's like, good idea. I'll, yeah. So he goes out. Yeah, exactly. He starts the

Sidey: I mean, this is, you know, A super, super meticulous hired gun who's not going to leave witnesses around to ID him. So he's testing out, he's got a pencil in the

laptop to use the camera to control remotely where he's going to shoot from and he gets Jack Black to stand across this Like, lake.

The other side of the lake. And hold, is it an

Reegs: It's a packet of cigarettes. So

Sidey: a pack of cigs. And you're thinking,

if

Reegs: If

Sidey: even

if you miss, that's still taking his arm off. Which he fucking does. So, Jack back loses an arm. And then he's still convinced him to fucking stand there. And he just, then he just presses down and rapid fire destroys the car, everything fucking blows

Reegs: up.

Dan: he was right, he was a little off with

Reegs: it's quite a

change

Sidey: some fine tuning to do, yeah.

Reegs: Right, I hate to be the fucking, like, logic slash plot police, but the whole part of this movie, right, this sequence is set up because Willis character is afraid of being extorted by Jack Black, that he's gonna reveal some information, so he takes him out to the middle of nowhere, to fucking blow him up, and then leaves him there, in the car, for the FBI to find, so that, because they do, in the next scene, so it like, just logically makes no sense.

Sidey: Also, he's doing the calibration thing and then later on, and this is like, you know, trope of movies like this, when. someone has something in their sights and just delay, delay, delay, and you're

Reegs: like the longest finger press of all time! It was amazing!

Sidey: Anyway, we move, so Jack Black's now gone, and we move on, and we're going to get to a bit where Declan, Richard Gere, is down the docks

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: and happens upon The jackal.

Reegs: He does.

He sees him, and in a sort of, like, slow, operatic moment where they, like, finally lock eyes. Because at some point, I think before this, he's revealed that the jackal killed his caused a murder. A miscarriage for

Sidey: of justice?

Reegs: know, of the human, yeah.

Dan: Him and Isabel were due to have a kid and I think it all went wrong and he was somehow to blame for the

Reegs: So that adds to it.

Dan: And he's also now as a, you know, a prisoner in a high security prison, he's now been given the freedom to go and wander the docks and become an extra policeman, if you like, on the

Sidey: hunt. Yeah. Well, he calls him out, doesn't he?

And, the jackal looks around, looks back to where he's going and obviously reaching for a gun. It turns around and starts firing at him.

Dan: But Major Caslova is is somewhere around and she she returned. She returns fire. And the jackal gets away. But

Sidey: This is when he's in platinum.

Yeah. Platinum blonde incognito

Reegs: Yeah, and then after all this has gone down, he dives into the water and gets away, and then Mole Queen, I think that's what his name is,

Cris: Declan Mole Queen.

Reegs: He tells Sidney Poitier, you've got a mole, you've got a problem

Dan: Somebody, somebody's.

Sidey: Not an actual

Reegs: mole really

Dan: Yeah. In the garden.

Sidey: if you're really cruel, you can put broken glass down in the ground and they, I know it's pretty barbaric, but it works.

Reegs: works.

Cris: I think works better, but.

Sidey: better.

Dan: Well, this particular mole was ousted by a little bit of tapping, a little bit of phone tapping. And they tapped all the phones of all the high dignitaries to find the one the Russian guy, believe it or not.

Um,

the one Russian guy out of all the Oh, Major Kosher, you must go. Oh, yes, it was me. And he gets sort of marched out. . And they, they think everything is, is okay again now, and they can, it's not really.

Reegs: And somehow Molqueen and Sidney Poitier realise, just as this sequence is actually happening, that's, that or they realise it's too late, that he, the Jackal has access to the FBI files and he knows where Isabelle's house is, which is currently where and a very early performance from J.

1. Simmons.

Just as exposition, boy. And they kind of, the Jackal then attacks that safe house.

Sidey: And it's

Reegs: And it's to really God, awful nineties electronica. I put, look, this sequence has some absolutely God, awful late nineties electronica and is strongly not recommended. Confused. Yeah.

Sidey: Simmons. Simmons gets shot through the forehead, he's dead. Then he shoots her.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: In the gut. And then, just, what film did we watch? You Were Never Really There, right? When he sort of like, comforts it, he's like, he's like, put your hand, put pressure on it, or you'll bleed out. Yeah. If it pains too much, take your hand off, you'll die in five minutes, otherwise you've got twenty.

And I'm like, why is he leaving someone

Reegs: He wants her to deliver a message to Mole Queen.

He

asks, he tells him.

Sidey: leave an email.

Reegs: Yeah, agreed. Yeah. Email would have been better.

Sidey: So anyway, she survives, they all get there, and I don't know if they try and make it suspenseful, but she's still alive when they get there.

Yeah,

Reegs: make it suspenseful but she's

Dan: you can't look after your

Reegs: they get there. But that message becomes

Dan: that message becomes a little bit important because they somehow work out through that message and other kind of messages. They may have got the target wrong. And

Reegs: well, Mulqueen realizes when he's watching on the, he's watching on the telly and he puts two and two together and

Dan: right. It's it's not the FBI. Yeah, it's not the FBI director. It's the first

Sidey: It's going to be the most female.

Dan: On a stage with the director of FBI.

Cris: launching some hospital, I

think.

Dan: that's right. Some chemotherapy center. And Well, for the jackal, it's perfect. So he dresses up as a copper. He rolls in a car, just a normal

Sidey: sharpshooter on

Dan: He's got a, yeah, he's got he, he positions the gun in the back.

It's blacked out windows. He's got everything laid down and ready. And he takes a seat on the bench as the

Sidey: Yeah, he's like forest company. Yeah sat there

Dan: the, as the crowd starts building up and people are giving speeches, the first lady comes on stage and you're just thinking. Why hasn't he shot already?

Sidey: Well, it's one of those classics where they, they try and, you know, draw out the tension.

And,

Reegs: a lot of on scene calibration.

And, like, zooming in, twiddling in. The bullets, like, are about the size of your fucking head, aren't they? So it's like, it's only

Cris: they

Reegs: be vaguely near. He just

Cris: up Jack Black And half of his arm

Sidey: need to hit the area of the stage and you will kill

Reegs: and it's a machine gun, so you just, and

Cris: obviously, yeah,

Sidey: Yeah, so that's the

Dan: sizing

it up to her eye

Sidey: Twiddle, twiddle, twiddle. Yeah, so he gets her head in the shot. Then he zooms in and you're like, this is

Reegs: unnecessary.

Sidey: And then you get people walking around and people looking over. And Richard Gere takes a sniper rifle and he's

Reegs: Daniel Day Kim, who went from Lost.

Sidey: Yeah. And he looks around and he eventually clocks the van and he can see the gun pointing out the

Reegs: the No, he can't. I watched it back today. He can't. He just knows

Sidey: he does

Reegs: he just knows that that's the fucking gun. He has

Sidey: x ray vision and he sees it and he fires a shot which distracts everyone and poitiers able to molest

Reegs: Yeah, the first lady.

Sidey: to the

Dan: ground, well he, he actually shoots the gun

Reegs: He blind fires it because the camera, the video camera that leads that, he can see the display is gone from que shot. So he blind

Sidey: But he lines

Reegs: takes out the whole

Sidey: as if it's a sniper rifle, and then decides

Reegs: to

Sidey: just, and you're like, you should have just done that in the first place. Anyhow, anyhow, he does that they blow up the car by shooting the, you know,

Dan: car by shooting the Yeah, I just, I just associate

Sidey: just like, come on Jackal, come on!

Dan: like, come on, do it! And Poitier saves the

Sidey: saves

Dan: Yeah, he takes a hit

Yeah, and And

and he he references that so he says it doesn't matter what the fuck I do for the rest of my life I've taken one for the first lady here.

I'm basically untouchable

Sidey: Gear's about to be taken down.

And he's saved by the chick,

Reegs: Yeah, well, so, I mean, you are skipping about, I, fair play for it because it was shit, but you are skipping about 25 minutes of the movie because Mole Queen had already spotted they're going to go to the subway as the exit route, so we get, like you say, inconspicuous bright blonde haired Bruce in, on, and then some really fucking tedious cat and mouse, like, oh man, 20 minutes of that shit, and eventually, just as he's got a hostage, he's shot by Isabella

Sidey: Yeah, Rossellini, yeah.

Cris: Yeah.

Dan: Which isn't,

Reegs: is deed dead

Dan: which isn't true at all because he's in a Paris prison or a

Cris: In real life.

Dan: in real life. But there we go. The, the Jackal, the day of the Jackal. This was based on Frederick Forsyth's

Sidey: Who fought to have the name changed to not be Day of the Jackal, and so did the filmmakers Jackal.

Right. Jackal. Because they did not want to be associated with

Dan: So it's just the Jackal. And, and so it's the Jackal. Although it's based on this Venezuelan terrorist kind of character, it's not the story of his life, as it were. This is just part of a story that has been written by Frederick Forsyth. And they've kind of mixed it up just because of their name.

It's I remember seeing this before and thinking I'll never watch it again.

So it was one of those films but because it went on in such a low bar I actually didn't like hate this. On it's been years since I watched it. It was really easy viewing, It's an action kind of thriller. There are those parts where you say cat and mouse that go on far too long. There's the shooting that you think Fucking just shoot 'em and they'll die now, like films are, but he doesn't do any of that with a film.

It's just one of those kind of mildly irritating films that I often watch

And

Cris: I enjoyed it the first time because I was very young when I've seen

Sidey: Hmm

Cris: and I think it was just maybe the year it came out or maybe the year after.

I was 13, 14 probably. And I unnecessarily long, I have to

Sidey: Yeah, it doesn't need to be

Cris: it doesn't have to be two hours. There is got some really good, good bits like, you know, the, the Bruce Willis, the, the gun, the also as an adult, when you watch the,

Realizing all these things, especially when he's like, Oh, he's going to sail that boat.

Oh, he's going to sail the boat. And you think, fuck off. How do you know that out of all the options, he's going to sell the boat and watch all these boats I'm going to do this. So I kind of get it, but it was. It was all right. And

Reegs: no I agree you can see the plot really creaking and trying to force shit into

Cris: mean, is it going to be a great masterpiece? I wouldn't say that if it would have been an hour or maybe 80

Sidey: 90 minutes all this needs to be it's a very simple

Cris: 80 minutes. And, and with, with the good bits in it and cut it a bit shorter and make it a bit more actiony and whatever, I quite enjoyed the actors, not necessarily the acting.

But I enjoyed seeing all these actors again, because

Reegs: Sidney

Poitier is good in it.

Cris: No, no, but all these ones that I've, that I've seen before, and seen since, and like Zoe Saldana and all that, that they were right at the beginning and all that, it was like, oh, I remember him, or I remember her. So, in terms of that, I enjoyed it.

As a cinematography,

Reegs: Yeah, it's, it's pretty workmanlike as far as direction is concerned.

It's kind of like, it's neither like realistic and serious nor flamboyant and ludicrous. It's kind of somewhere in between and it's a bit sort

Dan: a great road for that cast and and if you could make this into a trailer, it'd be one of the best trailers

Sidey: I did enjoy the disguises.

That was that was quite fun. And It's just the problem I have it with is he's built up to be this super efficient, you know, highly successful, super secretive, no one knows about him, assassin, and yet nothing he really does in the film backs that up. Yeah. He's just like an idiot leaving game, making it personal.

Reegs: making it personal. He does make himself likeable though.

Yeah, I want him to

Sidey: That's good.

Cris: make himself likable, though.

Sidey: Yeah. I want him to win. I was a fucking father gun.

Cris: That's how, yeah, that's how, it's like, how do you, he's the bad guy, and yet you're kind of cheering for him.

Sidey: because Richard Gear is a complete charisma vacuum in this. I mean,

Cris: Yeah, he doesn't really do

Sidey: you're not gonna root for him. So all in all I would say it's a mediocre recommend for me.

Reegs: yeah, that's great

Cris: above average recommend.

Reegs: no

Dan: It's yeah,

I wouldn't I wouldn't go out of my way to see this one again.