Midweek Mention... Hush

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Sidey: Well, it's the start of Quiet Week. Yeah. It's what it is.

Reegs: Yeah.

volume.

I nominated

all

Sidey: I nominated all these.

Yeah. I'd never seen this and I had no idea that it was a Blumhouse Yeah. thing, when it credits rolled. It's like, oh, okay, nice. Second one, I think, that we've done on the pod. We did that casino y thing one, didn't we?

Reegs: Which casino he won. I like Blumhouse. They've done a load of movies

Sidey: there. How he nominated it, and it was,

Reegs: oh, bingo Hell,

Sidey: Yes, that's it.

Dan: remember that. Yeah, it was quite

Sidey: It was a bit poo.

Dan: was quite bizarre though. This was a little Well, this wasn't so much bizarre as totally terrifying.

Sidey: Well, it starts off with cooking.

And the noises of the

Reegs: every chop pop and sizzle. Yeah.

Sidey: a bit, yeah.

Dan: Well, it actually starts panning down from some trees to give you the, the

Sidey: That these

Dan: that these people as it pans down to this house Whoever's in that house is completely alone and you hear you hear nothing Actually, I had to check the the sound was on until you hear the cooking which then sort of pops into life But it was just silence up till then to the point where I was thinking Have I

got the sound

Sidey: do a check,

Dan: and everything and then yeah, it comes

Reegs: Well, sound design is a big feature of this movie and the other movie that we watched and Dick and Dom in The Bungalow.

Sidey: in the

bungalow.

Yes, it's a writer and

Reegs: it's Maddy, it's, it's Kate Siegel is a, is the actress's name and she is the,

Sidey: That's a terrible seagull

Dan: That wasn't, that was good. What? Tuck,

Sidey: tuck, tuck. They do that. Tuck,

Dan: Tuck, tuck,

Sidey: that. They do do

Dan: When did they do that?

Sidey: do that? At the beach. Oh, they don't do that.

They do. It's Kate Seagull, and this is Mike Flanagan.

Reegs: Flanagan and yeah, he's, I really like his stuff as well. He did Ouija and a number of Netflix

Dan: Steven?

Reegs: The Footballer.

Sidey: Jonathan.

Dan: Anyway,

Reegs: Anyway, all

this bullshit. So she's cooking in her house, we hear all the chopping, and then sometimes it goes to her oral Al perspective, which is, she sort of sounds like underwater.

It's not exactly silence, it's kind of the sound is, yeah. Loaded that shit. And she's cooking and grimacing when she tastes her own food

Sidey: Yeah, she can't quite nail the recipe it seems.

But she also gets a note a message from her neighbor. It says, is it alright if I pop over? And she says, yeah, cool. And her neighbor does

Dan: And they get that with, yeah. So she's communicating through her

laptop and her mobile phone at this stage. Yeah. And yeah, when a friend turns up, they have kind of a conversation where she's reading her lips because we find that obviously she's, she's not able to speak.

Reegs: And we find out a load of stuff about Maddie in this conversation. We find out that she's an author that her friends just read a book. She's eulogizing about it. We also as we go back, we see the cover of the book and it's, we learned that she lost her hearing at 13 through bacterial meningitis. So,

Pete: it affected her vocal

cords

Sidey: in an operation. Yeah. She lost her speech. Yeah. She's a deaf mute.

Reegs: we see that on the back of, I really like this little touch because her previously released book is The Midnight Mass which Flanagan then eventually turned into an eight part miniseries

Sidey: from Netflix.

With her in it.

Reegs: and really enjoyed with her in it. Yeah, exactly.

Pete: And her friends Sarah we, we find out is learning sign language so that she can communicate more effectively

Dan: And her.

Stephen is it or Mark or John

Pete: I think it's John. I'm

Dan: sure how many boyfriends she's got, but let's go with John. He's also learning

Reegs: her husband, I think it's John,

Pete: yeah.

Craig is the guy who keeps ringing, isn't it?

Yes,

Dan: Yes, so I was thinking about Sarah's partner which is John but yeah we do get a an understanding that Maddie must have come out of a relationship because she she gets a call from a guy who says he's been thinking

Sidey: Well yeah, Sarah, Sarah disappears and she goes back to her house.

It's not entirely clear how far, quite how far away she lives, but I think she had

Dan: Well, we do see it a little bit later on it's down the hill

Sidey: off, right? Yeah. Because

Reegs: Because it's going to come back in the climax of the movie. Her fire alarm pulls her into the house again because she's cooking and it's gone fucking crazy. It's really super, super loud because she needs to be able to feel the

Sidey: Yeah. Of it and obviously a strobe kind of

Reegs: a strobe effect, but she's not affected by the sound. Whereas her friend is like almost paralyzed by it, which

Sidey: Yeah and Then she gets a text from someone called Craig who says I've been thinking of you and that throws her a little bit and she's

Dan: She

Sidey: calling him she makes she then sits down.

She's struggling. She's got writer's block country. And so While she's struggling with the ending of this book, she said I'll give him a call and then immediately cancels the call But that's prompted him to sort of start Ringing back and it didn't really go anywhere after that, that, that,

Dan: it?

I thought it was sending me

Sidey: I thought it was sending me down the path of he's going to come back later and save the day, perhaps.

Reegs: it's a nice little red

Sidey: Yeah, yeah, it was. Yeah.

Dan: And because Craig isn't there, but what is there is some guy

Sidey: she goes back to the kitchen to, to, to clear away the burnt food, doesn't she? And while she's scraping the sauce that she didn't like into the bin, Sarah is slammed up against the window.

Dan: Yeah, and being repeatedly stabbed by a guy who's kind of a little bit amazed that

That she can't hear and it's just all happening because it's a brutal death with her mate literally right

Reegs: she's screaming and shouting, I think she's shot with an arrow, a bolt,

Dan: she's thumping the glass, which seems to be the thickest glass in the world.

Reegs: We find it

Dan: pretty thick glass.

Reegs: glass.

But what we haven't mentioned is the guy is wearing, he's like this sort of porcelain mask thing, very reminiscent of Creeped Out that we watched

Dan: Scary as fuck mask he's wearing. You know, like, scary as fuck.

Sidey: would have liked him to have kept it on, personally. It was

Dan: more scary when he kept it on. Yeah.

Reegs: Although it, I did like, when he takes it off, eventually he's saying to her, well you're gonna die because you've seen

Dan: Yeah, yeah. Well, but we're jumping right ahead because the part where she realizes she's not alone. He sneaked in, listened to her conversation, stepped back while she was on a video call so she couldn't, he couldn't be seen in the background. Although her friend says, Oh, I think

Pete: her sister that she

Dan: say stuff.

And she goes, Oh, it must be the cat. Anyway, cat's not coming in. And you think that's the end of the cat, but as she sits back down on her laptop, she gets a message pop up from her own phone and it's a photo of her. On her laptop right there that second and she realizes What the fuck is

Sidey: is

really

Pete: really creepy. This was like Scream vibes wasn't it? When it's like, you know, that,

Dan: So she sees her door is just a jar and she kind of side steps over to it and peers her head round And call is a cuba cucumber there as a cuba. White faced masked guy is just there, like, looking at her spooky as fuck.

Reegs: Well, he's, he's already stood right behind, like, they've really emphasised her

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: You know, he's gonna just play with her.

and he's already established that she's deaf by tapping on the

Sidey: Yeah, but before, like, getting to him, just that Sitting there in your own home and someone sent that.

I'm thinking, I was thinking I'd be fucking paralyzed with fear. I wouldn't

Reegs: Well there's a series of As she goes off to look for him around the house He takes photos of her doing

that eventually.

Dan: off to look for him around the house, he takes photos of her doing that.

It's so creepy. She does them, she

Reegs: So anyway, she doesn't, she goes to shut the door and she, he's like there outside following round. And then she does go to call 9 1 1. And then he, the killer. I think that's all he iss referred

Sidey: The man is just, yeah, he's never named, no.

Reegs: He cuts the power which disconnects, yeah Pete, disconnects the Wi Fi and the Wi Fi connection to the friend's house because she tries getting on to their message as well.

And then he draws this line in blood across the window, he's just toying with her and she writes back, doesn't she? Won't tell, didn't see

Sidey: boyfriend's

Reegs: on his way or whatever.

Dan: which is that moment that you then spoke about sidey where he reveals himself, takes the mask off. He says, can you read my lips? Well, you've seen me now, haven't you?

And yeah, it's a game to him and he's, he's pretty good.

Reegs: It's good as well, because it's not a reveal to it. He takes the mask off and you're sort of maybe expecting her to have some sort of, Oh,

Sidey: course, the first thing you think is Craig, but we've seen Craig's thing and he's black and

Reegs: Or someone else, but no, it's just some

Sidey: some lunatic.

Pete: also I was, I was expecting like disfigurement or something like the mask is hiding like burns or something like that.

And it's just a fairly run of the mill guy with a really shit tattoo on his

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah, it is a shit

tattoo. She And this is, I think this is he says, I'm gonna basically just shit you up, I'm gonna kill you when I want, this

Pete: Well, he said that the bit he says is that like II can come in at any any time I want.

Yeah. And I will only come in when you want to die. Yeah. Like the point at which she's been tormented. So, yeah.

But

Reegs: she's capable and brave and you know, she arms herself straight away with a knife and a hammer. Good choices, I thought.

And then she tries to keep herself safe by barricading herself in the bathroom. The house is really dark. There's no light at all. It's not like a moon like

a

Dan: Yeah, it's quite a dark film to to watch. You need to have You you know a dark room to see it because what little light there is coming from the the actual film itself is is just filled with either silence this kind of underwater sound that you get and there's not a lot of dialogue so um you you just see the guy running in and around outside and at some point

Reegs: He gets

Sidey: gets Sarah's hand.

Sarah,

Reegs: Weekend at Bernie's style, like props the corpse up at the window,

Dan: at the window yeah and and she's You think,

Sidey: well, she hasn't

Dan: and stab like, because she's armed there with two

Sidey: Well she hadn't seen that Sarah was dead had she? No. No. So that's like, oh fuck.

Dan: And she has a very real moment actually, straight after that, where She kind of just spins out and collapses on the floor that her friend's dead without, you know, taking it all in. And also, and on a few bits, it made me smile that he's going, I'm going to fucking kill you or whatever. And she can't hear him at all.

And he just turned her back and he's wondering, and she's in her own world then, or he, it must've been quite frustrating for him sort of to have the sound taken away that he could use that to scare her or whatever, where,

Reegs: Oh, but she truly is in her own world, right? Because like you're saying, she, when she mourns, I think she was screaming, but obviously she

Pete: she has,

Dan: yeah, yeah, yeah.

Reegs: have the capacity to do that. Anyway, I mean, there's a bunch of jiggery pokery. She tries to steal. She remembers that Sarah had a, a phone in her pocket.

So she like tries to cause a distraction with some car keys and the car outside while she goes to get the phone from, you know, she's constantly shown to take the initiative, try to do something back in the

Dan: situation. Yeah. She's, she's fighting and she's, she's being smart about it, and she's seeing what she's got in the way of resources, but she's

Reegs: She hits him really hard in the arm with the hammer when he comes back so he

Pete: she, she uses the claw part of it, and it actually sticks in his arm. Right,

Dan: So she's got a couple of hits on him and he's not.

You know,

Sidey: Well, he is shown to

Dan: going away.

Sidey: of a fucking dick

Dan: Yeah, yeah, he's

Sidey: Because the few times that she does get him, you're like, it's not, you know, this isn't a supernatural killer, killer or some super human, but it's just some fucking lunatic.

And he's fallible

Reegs: and actually what we're gonna see is he's not even that big a guy because when John does eventually turn up, I dunno how long that's gonna be.

There's some cat and mouse stuff, isn't there?

Dan: Well they, she's gone outside,

Sidey: pretty much now because she's

Dan: gone inside. But at one point just before John gets there, she's got the crossbow.

And she manages to avoid a shot.

Sidey: matrix

Dan: Matrix style, and he thinks he must have got her, so he's going up, and as he slings, gets to the top of the roof, and he's climbing up the trellis, and she's Sees his head he slings the crossbow over and then he's about to pull himself up and she takes that and kicks him down and you're thinking well have a bad fall Let's hope he's broke something or whatever But as quick as she can get the crossbow and get back through the window He's up there and she actually hurts her hand.

I think at that

Reegs: she has to patch herself up, Predator

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. And she's now got to try and You She's got an arrow and she's got the crossbow, but it's pretty hard to

Sidey: We've seen that he's, he's only just about able to reload it.

Dan: And and she's and he's watching her doing it and he's just kind of laughing going yeah, it's tough, isn't it? It's tough to do that.

Sidey: But this is where it,

Dan: John turns up.

Reegs: Yeah, and John is the husband of Sarah. And I like this guy because he's immediately fairly savvy. Sort

Dan: yeah, fairly, I mean the,

Reegs: he's disarmed because the killer pretends to be a cop. Shines a light in his face. You on the floor. There's been a disturbance. We've been called in a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But it's not long before he, he

Dan: Yeah, well he is not dressed in, in in police clothes or anything, but yeah, he's still.

Sidey: he's not expecting this

Reegs: Well, but they show him to observe, like, the cut on him, the tattoo to suddenly ask

Dan: him,

Sidey: offer any id, does he?

He drops.

Dan: and to suddenly ask questions.

And then they all suddenly realise that John

Reegs: And then they both suddenly realize that John is a bit bigger than the killer as well.

Dan: well.

jabs him

in the neck with some kind of trow.

Sidey: trowel. Well she, it's she inadvertently causes the

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: and he is stabbed in the jugular and bleeds out.

Reegs: he's

got him believing that she's kept a

Sidey: he's, he's got him believing that she's kept a key under, you know, like flowerpot or whatever.

And he's got him to kind of go over there and he's, you know, he's going to stay. Of course we know it's not going to happen. And then it just, just from off, off, Screeny just like reaches in with a knife and stabs him in the neck and like, ooooh. And

Dan: And he's just talking to him going, ah, it's all done now, don't worry about it. It's just like, no, he's just going to bleed out. It's all done now.

Sidey: got a bit of fight

Dan: still got a little bit more fight in him to the point where he gets him in a throat hold and he's, he's pulling him into him and trying to strangle him with his last, his last breath.

Draws a breath and he mouths to her run. And and it's a weird scene again. This isn't it? So, where He's strangling the guy. And she runs she gets up and he catches her really easily Because john's dead. He didn't have the life to to strangle hold him and kill him and he just gets a big breeze block and crushes in the head three times and that's it films over and you think You Oh, right.

Because he holds this rock above her head for a second or two and you think there's something gonna,

Pete: Yeah. Or yeah,

something

Dan: to, no, he just launched it on her head like three times, you think, shit, she ain't making it after two,

Reegs: Well. It's like blood going out every, I mean, it's just

Dan: And then it does that kind of dream sequence where she's, Thought

you know a minute ahead and realizes with my

Reegs: the movie has set this up though. I

Pete: I was gonna say, this is leading into a bit that we didn't mention. When she's typing out, she's got six or seven different documents open that are all the endings of one of her books and one of them,

Reegs: her friend has eulogized them. Oh, you've got the perfect ending. And so we see that actually she really struggles with it. There are, there is no perfect ending. It was one of several that she picked out.

Pete: Yeah.

Reegs: And also the, she talks about her inner monologue, being able to visualize all this stuff. Yeah. Take in her observation. So it's not so much of a cheat because the movie has set

Pete: yeah.

So she's literally sort of playing out what running would achieve and, and believes that it's not gonna be the way forward, and then plays out all of the different scenarios and circumstances in her head. And the only one she arrives at is I've got Kill this guy.

Reegs: Yeah. She plays through several scenarios of

Sidey: Well, she's been shot in the leg

Reegs: or hiding.

Sidey: be an artery because she's bleeding out. Yeah. And so she's like, you can't. Hide because you're just gonna bleed

Pete: And she's run outta places to hide as

well, like

Sidey: call anyone. Yeah. The only option left is you're just gonna have to fight him.

Yeah. And so scenario happens where she does manage to shoot him in the, he's gonna kill the cat, isn't he? Yeah.

Dan: Yeah, but not before she's written in blood. He goes, I'm coming in. And she writes in blood, dipping her finger into her

Reegs: No, that's later.

Dan: Oh, it is a little bit later, is it? After she's Oh, that's right, she's just saved the cat. But what a move, anyway. It gets that badass, where she's dipping her finger in her own open wound to write in blood on the glass.

Come, come and have a go if you think you're hard enough, basically.

Pete: Yeah, we don't want to skirt over the

Sidey: The hand mangling.

Reegs: The hand mangling is horrendous.

Sidey: While she's outside and she's running to get back in, she needs to, she's done a, like, Indiana Jones style drop she's dropped the crossbow bolt, and as she goes through the door, she reaches out to get it, and he's able to get to the door and slam it into her wrist, and then, oh, it's

Dan: She ain't writing again for a

Sidey: fucking stamps on her hand, and like, mangles it, and you hear all these effects, and then you see her fingers

Pete: Oh yeah.

Sidey: Bent and broken and like, completely mangled.

It's absolutely hideous It was great. Yeah. And then it's

Pete: But and then it's pretty much

Reegs: is when she writes do it coward on the door with her own blood. Pretty fucking badass. And then

there's

Sidey: herself upstairs, doesn't she?

Reegs: Yes.

Sidey: She hides by the bath.

Reegs: And you see her, she's sort of prepared and behind her you see some glass break and him drop into the bathtub behind her but we've

Sidey: facing the door

Reegs: her perspective her like facing the door you can

Dan: there's just a little breeze that she feels on the back of

Pete: Well, it's his breath. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah, and

Reegs: Stabbed him in the knee I think.

Dan: she, as she kind of Moves to avoid and spins around she gets him in the knee looks quite look quite nasty that one real stinger

Reegs: That's right, right in the kneecap.

Dan: she doesn't she doesn't ever finish him off like, you know, even though that he's you know At that moment is most weak and and after the arrow and everything she's obviously scared.

She just wants to get away and she does she kind of comes down to the downstairs area where she just collapses you're looking at a knife She'd already talked to herself about she's going to be losing blood going to be losing my eyesight, you know How long have I got here and before i'm just going to total shock and you realize?

Oh, she ain't gonna make it because she just collapses on the on a heap in the bathroom

Reegs: comes charging after her as well, it's like

Dan: and yeah, he he's

Reegs: her about, he calls her a fucking cunt.

He

Sidey: And

Reegs: I was quite shocked. Like, Ooh.

Sidey: that's when she nails him with the bleach or insecticide or something very, very

Dan: She's got some like Um a load of fucking wasp spray, which is just a perfect piss stream into his mouth and face and he's like Screaming and shouting around and she turns on the alarm Which just like

Pete: him even further. Yeah.

The

Dan: sound and everything the intense screeching is all You know horrible.

He's still, he's still favourite because

Sidey: he's still able to overpower, isn't he? He's strangling her

Dan: and he's strangling her on the floor, but we'd seen just the corkscrew,

Reegs: It was one of the first shots of

Pete: It was, yeah, yeah, yeah,

Dan: And it, it just finds her, you know, an inch from her fingers as he's strangling the life out of her, and with her last, last breath beat of her heart she manages to plunge it into his jugular and he just starts pissing out all the blood everything doesn't it it's all over

Pete: right the way through, like right the way through his neck.

Dan: Yeah, it was a fine vintage.

I think she opened that. A lot of claret. And yeah, she just kind of lies on the floor and end of sort of scenes then, isn't it? We don't get the, the

Reegs: Well, she smiles as the

Dan: Well, yeah.

Pete: Well,

Reegs: calls nine one

Pete: her phone that she manages to get back off

Dan: did. Yeah, I saw the cat just comes along just like just wants feeding, doesn't

Reegs: it? Yeah.

Pete: it? Yeah.

Dan: really annoying. You don't know.

Just

Reegs: That's what kids are like.

Dan: Oblivious.

to like, all that, and she's like, Meow, meow, can I have something to eat? And then she smiles, because she never really liked her neighbours, And always wanted to play with a crossbow.

Sidey: the clock.

Dan: Is what I assumed and that was it.

Pete: Yeah,

that's good. It's going to be a bit of trauma there for a little while. I'd

Dan: little while, I imagine.

Yeah, yeah, it was, yeah, fucking terrifying. I just, I've been putting this off for days and days. I really don't like these kind of movies. Why put myself into this place and, and do it? And I was saying to, to Riggs just before, if you watch them with somebody, you're scared with them. At least you can jump along and kind of laugh when you're on your own.

It's like you're only scaring yourself. Nobody's there to, so I was all on my own.

Reegs: on

Sidey: It was effective then, it scared

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it

Pete: I, I bravely watched it in bed so that I could pull the duvet over, over my eyes. O bits, bits where I knew bad things were gonna happen. So I did miss tiny little bits o but only because it was having the desired effect, which is scaring the living piss out of me, which is, it's not. so for me to say I enjoyed it is a lie because I don't like being scared, but it did exactly what it was meant to do. There are people I, I obviously imagine like you sick cunts who like to be terrified and it did, it had its desired

Sidey: wasn't necessarily terrified by it, but I thought it

Pete: seen a lot of this type of

Sidey: really?

Not really, but I thought it was really good. And I liked that it was Much more grounded and normal in the sense that it's just a fucking whack job going to someone's house.

Pete: Yeah, so like on that, and I think it probably worked, but I was almost, I was a bit disappointed with the reveal of the guy and it just being, and after that, I guess I was a little bit less scared. If the mask had been on the entire time, and I know why the, like the mask came off because it just basically sort of like said to her, Oh, you haven't seen my face.

Well, here's my face. You're going to die. There's no

Sidey: I think it's

Dan: what?

Pete: So I understand that. But he was, he himself, as a, as a, just a guy that you looked at, wasn't sort of scary or, or

Sidey: think that makes it

Pete: What he was doing was scary

Sidey: and because it's not, it's not like a jilted lover or someone that, you know, it's just, it's just fucking horrible chance that some fucking lunatic and it could be anyone just turns up and

fucking

Dan: anyone who's turned up and fucking I think you guys are all missing the point because this is actually

Reegs: you guys are all missing the point because this is actually about what a great character she is. Because her victory

Pete: haven't come on to her

Reegs: all of the odds is like the, that's what's great about the movie. Because she is like, she's, she's clearly got.

Disadvantages and then her victory feels earned rather than completely unbelievable.

Pete: Yeah, I don't think that, that,

Reegs: it's not it's not a very scary movie. It's a well made slasher. It's not it's a vet. It's a really well made

Sidey: you weren't,

Pete: oh, no, sorry. Sorry.

Reegs: Slasher with a really good conceit, you know, a really neat idea and it's lean you know, it's, it's about 85 minutes or something, it doesn't outstay its welcome and it's mostly just a great,

Dan: It only outstay. It's welcome for 85

Reegs: I know

Pete: yeah. No, but I know, I know what you mean. It didn't need all the, you know, it probably wouldn't have worked as well if it was Craig, or, well, you know, if there, there was a, it's like, wrong place, wrong time type stuff.

And, and it's, it's more about her and how completely vulnerable, like, you know, completely

Reegs: a million dollars

Pete: Right, so it's a really fucking good film for that. I mean, I don't know how difficult it is, but her, her, like, acting performance is, I imagine, is amazing. Because, you know, she's not able to kind of scream or vocalize anything.

It's literally just done with Her like her face and her body and that's it and and the entire way through she's entirely believable as

Dan: You don't question, yeah, you don't question her terror, at any stage, given the fact that she can't shout, or scream, or, or, you know, communicate in all the ways that most horrors show victims and things do, and

Reegs: it would be like absurd if it was this like faceless killer with like fucking ju you know, Mike Myers or whatever.

Then it would be absurd when she beats him, but they set it up so that it all pays off

Dan: that's, that's right. I think the, the balance as I was trying to say is that the fact that if it had gone on longer, you'd expected it to have been somebody that she, she knew the fact they revealed it early, let you know that straight away, she doesn't know this guy. And it's just like a one on one madman now that that's in the house.

So it kind of worked, but it was less scary for seeing the face of the guy who wasn't that scary other than the things that he is. Doing because he wasn't like a huge guy, but obviously he's he's hell bent and her performance and in his character you know, she's really she's really smart and she's Manages to stay calm and cool on the moments of extreme pressure seeing her friend as I said when her friend died when she'd seen that You you felt like wow, you know, she's That is a more reaction than just, you know, whatever that if she was just her legs went from her, you know She was just kind of wolf This shit's happening.

I can't believe actually somebody's dead because that until that point she was saying let's just go away I haven't seen you like you haven't done anything well He

knows, she knows for sure then, he's a fucking killer, he's killed, he's killed my mate outside. But she still manages to think about that phone in her mate's pocket

Pete: she's relying on her other senses which I'm guessing are heightened because of

Dan: Well when he started smoking at one point, I thought, oh yeah, she's gonna smell him like, you know, The cigarettes are gonna give it away because other senses are a little more heightened. But, again, another red herring really never really happened like that. And she's yeah. Well, it was scary

Pete: it was a really good film that I'll never watch again. That's probably the best way I

Dan: I would recommend it to somebody who wanted to be scared. I would say watch that one, you know, that's

Pete: Yeah. I think you probably you watch a lot of, and you know, probably why you, you clearly liked it rigs and, and, and probably a lot of the reason why is because you do watch a lot of this type of fair. And I imagine that there's a, it's incredibly formulaic and there are all the things that we were looking for, I guess, that we would have.

either seen before or heard of before the so it wasn't as such a significant departure from

Reegs: I think it just shows what a good director can do with a good act. A great director can do with a great actor and a really neat director.

idea

Pete: lean is a really good word

Reegs: And and and that's you know And then it's no wonder that they all have all gone on to do much bigger things because this was a really good one

Pete: yeah side did you care at all

Sidey: Yeah. I

really enjoyed it.

Pete: it excellent