Jan. 1, 2025

Midweek Mention... Die Hard 2

Midweek Mention... Die Hard 2

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Welcome back to Bad Dads Film Review! Today, we're revisiting a quintessential action-packed sequel, Die Hard 2, often styled as Die Hard 2: Die Harder. Directed by Renny Harlin and released in 1990, this film takes the high-octane thrills of its predecessor and amplifies them against the backdrop of a snow-covered Washington Dulles International Airport during the Christmas holidays.

Just when NYPD officer John McClane (played by Bruce Willis) thought he could enjoy a peaceful Christmas, he finds himself embroiled in another terrorist plot. This time, McClane battles a group of mercenaries who've taken control of Dulles Airport to free a captured drug lord. With his wife's plane circling overhead, low on fuel, McClane must navigate the complexities of the airport's infrastructure and outsmart the villains to save the day.

 As the snowstorm of the century bears down, McClane discovers a plot to rescue the deposed dictator General Ramon Esperanza. With little help from the airport police initially sceptical of his claims, McClane takes matters into his own hands. What follows is a series of explosive encounters, clever twists, and intense battles as McClane races against time to thwart the terrorists' plans and ensure a safe landing for all the planes above, including the one carrying his wife, Holly.

Die Hard 2 explores themes of isolation and resourcefulness. McClane is often portrayed as a lone hero battling against not just the external threats but also bureaucratic inertia and scepticism. His ability to improvise solutions and navigate complex environments under pressure underscores a key aspect of his character—his resilience and ingenuity.

Why It’s a Must-Watch For fans of the action genre and the Die Hard franchise, Die Hard 2 is a must-watch. It successfully replicates the formula that made the first film a hit while introducing enough new elements to stand on its own. The film is a testament to the enduring appeal of John McClane as a relatable action hero.

So, grab some popcorn and join us as we dive back into the snowy chaos of Die Hard 2. Whether you’re a die-hard fan of the series or just looking for a high-stakes action film to spice up your holiday viewing, this film delivers on multiple levels. 🎬🔫👨‍👧‍👦🍿

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Transcript

Die Hard 2

Reegs: You travelled at Christmas through an airport much?

Cris: I did.

Sidey: Very recently. Yeah. Yeah. Was it we were delayed. Not by terrorists or anything, but just weather. So, I was coming back from Denmark, we'd gotten an advance warning that our flight was delayed, and we had a very, very tight connection to get back to Jersey,

Reegs: but this was a few days before Christmas, I'm

Cris: it's

Sidey: Well, it's the 23rd, that's

Reegs: 23rd, close

Sidey: It's on the cusp, and if we'd waited till the 24th, then all the fog and all the chaos broke out, so it would've been Christmas in Premier Inn, which would've been fucking

Pete: I, I see a lot of blubbing like online, fucking social media and stuff like that about people like like, I've spent like 15 hours on Christmas Eve at the airport, it's like, Well, if it's that fucking important, don't travel, don't leave it till Christmas Eve to travel.

I don't care what your circumstances are, go earlier. Like it's going to be busy. It's like normally certain in the certainly in the northern hemisphere It's probably going to be like cold and it'll be like, you know Rainy windy kind of that kind of shit, especially if you're from Jersey, which is known for having like fog issues and

Sidey: Yeah, where we've built the airport in the area most susceptible to fog. Yeah. you

know, we live on an island, everyone should know that it's, you know, you're playing the weather lottery.

Pete: Exactly. So

yeah, no, no sympathy for these

Reegs: guys. I did. I did, skipple,

yeah. Skipple. it was

Pete: It Schiphol,

Reegs: do

Cris: was it was actually, do you know what, it was actually not too bad. It was more like loads of fucking idiots that were desperate and running around. Exactly for the same reason that Pete said. It was nowhere near what I thought it would be like.

Or what our movie was today where he thought he was in the busiest place in the world.

You would think he was in Times Square, but it was just a dull, dullest airport or whatever.

Sidey: been there

Reegs: it look

Cris: Okay. Does it look like that?

Sidey: that

Pete: dullest airport you've been to

Sidey: got I got ushered into the cavity search room. Yeah.

Cris: How many cavities did they search?

Sidey: all of them?

Cris: they? Did they use a glove?

Sidey: No, I kind of didn't like the interview room thing. No, no, it's just because my passport photo, I don't have a beard. I think, they don't tell you. They

Pete: Can you scribble a little beard on your passport photo?

Sidey: Yeah, I could do. I just, I don't want to yield to them.

Pete: Ah, yeah. That'll fuck the system. Yeah, look, like, this is how I fuck the system.

I'm clean shaven in my passport photo.

Sidey: But there has been, over the years a lot of chat about whether diehard Is a Christmas and we're gonna put that to bed tonight by watching Die Hard 2 and talking about that

Reegs: certainly is a

Cris: that. Which certainly

Sidey: Absolutely Christmas Eve, it's set.

Pete: Like the first one. Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: First time seeing this? No. No, me either.

Cris: Oh no, I've seen this before as well.

Even, even

Sidey: It's straight into the logo, which I really like. It's like,

Reegs: Die Hard 2, BLAM!

Just straight up there.

Pete: This is only my second time seeing it. I'd only seen it once before, and a while ago.

Reegs: familiar

with the Die Hard franchise are you? You seen all five of the,

Pete: I've not seen four or five.

Sidey: probably found to leave it like that.

Pete: I've seen three twice, the

Cris: that the one with Samuel L. Jackson? Oh yeah, that's

Pete: three straight after I watched two this time because I had a bit of man flu, couldn't be fucked to any work, everyone else was out, so in between masturbating I watched Die Hard

films.

Reegs: Yeah. Nice.

Cris: no, that's, there's another one after

Reegs: No, that's, there's another one after that in Russia. Yeah. Yeah. Which is a good day to die hard.

Pete: And they're both bollocks, aren't

they? 4

Reegs: is live free or die hard.

Yeah. It has its moments.

Cris: he kills, he kills an airplane with a bus or something like

Reegs: He kills a, he kills a helicopter with a police

Cris: Yeah. That's, that's unbelievable. That is actually, I, I, I mean, look, you know

Pete: seen that happen?

Cris: Yeah.

Pete: In real life?

Oh, okay.

Cris: But no, that, that, they're not too bad. I think I've watched all of them, but I, this, this kind of blends into one.

Reegs: I've seen them all. And they really do vary in quality. One and three, I think being the standouts. But like you say, four has its moments.

Pete: don't, don't give, like, give us your take on 2 before.

Reegs: Well, no, I'm gonna say let's get to it. It, it

Pete: can already only be 3rd best at best.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: In his eyes.

Pete: And you're being diehard racist by saying they all look the same.

Cris: No, he's got less and less hair and he gets older each

Pete: he's still Bruce

Cris: Willis.

I know, I'm not, look, I'm not panning him. I'm just saying, I'm a fan.

Reegs: Yeah.

Pete: Sounds like you hate him. Anyway,

Sidey: Straight in, straight into Dulles Airport.

Cris: And he's got

Reegs: getting his car impounded, his mother in law's car actually, by some cop who, he tries to play it off with the, oh, you know, we're cops, we're buddies sort of thing, but this local cop at LA has got like no, he's got short shrift for that and writes him up a ticket, doesn't

Sidey: he?

Yeah. Yeah.

He is not taking any of that shit. Yeah. And rightly so. You know, if you're an officer of the law, you should respect the

Reegs: And then I think we go, like, right into learning all about, like, part of the plot via a

Sidey: yeah. We get a new segment,

Reegs: About, you know, that tells us about that America has finally won the war on drugs and they've got their first casualty, General Esperanza.

Sidey: from

Reegs: Val Verde, yeah. And we get this announced, you know, this bit of exposition over William Sadler doing naked Tai Chi.

Sidey: You get

Reegs: You get to see his ass. And I

Sidey: ass, and I think if you Well at

Reegs: So he's like,

Pete: you just see sort of like top half naked Tai Chi and you're thinking I wonder if he's doing this Bollocco wait, and then the cameras I it fall back and there's mirrors as well. It's like yeah

Reegs: And then there's a sort of psychopathic Alan Partridge

Sidey: Who like spins

Reegs: and turns off the telly with the

Sidey: does, yeah.

Pete: That's a really good way of putting it.

Reegs: Well, John

Pete: at the airport to pick up his missus.

Sidey: This is the only one where they're actually married.

They're separated in the first one, divorced in the third. This is the one where they're

Pete: they divorced in the third?

They're definitely separated. I've watched it. Like, okay, yeah, well.

Sidey: Anyway,

Cris: you were.

Sidey: he's he's there to meet her at the airport and she is in a jumbo flying around

Reegs: with William

Pete: On, on a, like, on a phone.

Reegs: Yeah.

Pete: now I was sat there going, has this ever existed? Cause I know that they're talking about it. It's, it's, it's not a plot point necessarily, but they're talking about going, Oh, you know, technology has moved on and, but she sat in,

Sidey: is 1990.

Pete: it's 1990. They're not in like,

Reegs: on it later.

Pete: They're

not even in business.

So she's just an economy, right? Even though it looks quite roomy for economy. Like certainly by today's standards, and she's got like a phone that she can just make call, but I don't know if that's a thing in America, because flying in like, internally, domestically in America is, is, it's like getting a bus from A to B, and I don't know if you're allowed things like phone calls and all that sort of shit.

I haven't done it a lot. I

Reegs: also think, like, considering a lot of the tension in this movie is supposed to be about whether or not Bruce can contact the planes that are up in the air, that would have been awfully convenient if he remembered that he had done exactly that via a phone call at the beginning of the movie.

Pete: of the movie.

And does he, doesn't he ring her?

So he just knows the number that she's on, like, in her seat, on the phone, yeah, fuck!

Okay.

Sidey: she's sat next to an old lady, and wouldn't you know it, across the aisle is the dickhead

news reporter from the first

Pete: first

Reegs: movie. And from Ghostbusters, he just played s sniffling Dicks Didn't the in the eighties, like really

Sidey: effective, he's good at it.

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah. He was effective. And the old lady sitting next to her has got a taser in her bag. We'll

Sidey: That might pay off later in some way How did she get that through

Pete: Well, again, it's America and it's, it's like getting on the bus.

Right. So, but the, the, the, the, the plot away from, from McLean is this Esperanza, isn't it? Who has been released or is being extradited or something along those lines. He's like a bit of a, he's a drugs baron guy and he's, yeah, he's being extradited back to the U

S and then you kind of work out pretty quickly that What's his name?

Decker, not Colonel Decker, Colonel Stewart. Who is the William Sadler with the, with the great buns is part of a group of, I guess like mercenaries who are going to be intercepting that flight and, getting Esperanza to to relative safety or away from incarceration the U.

S.

Reegs: Yeah, so I think we get like a scene of them like dressed up as kind of utility workers and going into an Sort of nearly abandoned church killing the poor guy He says something like oh, I felt like a part of me died here and then he gets

Sidey: then he

Pete: It reminded me of, of when they kill, I forgot the actor's name, the old guy in Harry Potter, when they bring what's his name, Voldemort back. Kilver! Kilver's back! No, it's not that one. But, you know, Nagini passes him on the stairs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sidey: Sykes. Sykes.

Sykes,

Eric Sykes.

Pete: Eric Sykes, that's right, yeah.

Well done. He's not in this film.

Reegs: this film. They're kind of casing things out, aren't they, and he comes out straight away. Pass a present under

Sidey: he? They're kind of casing things out, aren't they? And he clocks that straight away. Pass a

Cris: a present under the table mysteriously and

Sidey: Yeah, so they've, the church building that they've taken over has now become a de facto

Air traffic control center. They've got all this fucking equipment and By doing stuff they're able to just completely Take over the whole operation of dallas airport.

Reegs: Yeah

Sidey: The lights on the runway go out. Everything is fucking like gone shut down. They have got it all the all the comms everything

Reegs: Yeah, and McLean has sort of tracked two of these guys through the baggage handling area sort of thing. And it's like, he's had a sort of mini shootout with one and then gone to the police chief, Lorenzo, who

Sidey: him.

Reegs: I can't remember the actor's name, but he's one of, yeah, and he's one of a number of good character actors in this.

He's just like this really political guy wants to play down everything. Dennis Franz, he wants to keep the whole, you know, he definitely doesn't want to have to deal with a murder or anything

Pete: he knows it's the busiest night of the year, yeah.

Reegs: of the year. Exactly. So he just sort of shuts McLean down.

Pete: Yeah, yeah, one of the guys gets crushed in the sort of like luggage conveyor belt thing or whatever. A bit, a bit Temple of Doom

y,

Sidey: it? Yeah, so I watched this with

Pete: Oh, this is really violent!

Sidey: really violent! Yeah. Yeah. And she's like, is he okay? I don't know, I

Pete: Is he okay? This

Reegs: has the highest death count of any of the Die Hard

Sidey: Mostly because of the

Reegs: Mostly because of the plane. But it does have the highest death count. Also, it has a number of pretty good practical effects that are really gory and

Kudos to you for getting your daughter on

Sidey: She, so, yeah, the plot is that they are now saying all these planes are staying up there and And, they're staying up there until you fly Esperanza's plane back here, have another jet waiting for us, and we're gonna fuck off into the sunset, and then we'll give you all the stuff

Pete: give you back. Yeah, that's that's and and the thing being that they, the, the tower can communicate with, sorry, the, the new traffic control from the church can communicate with the planes and the planes can communicate with them, with everyone but normal air traffic can't communicate

plane. So, they just think that there's some sort of shenanigans going on.

There is a lot of flight. Inclement weather.

Sidey: Yeah. It's really, it's blizzard conditions. Yeah. And so it is then up to our hero and whoever he can rally to help him to. Try to problem solve but every initially every time they do something The bad guys are onto them and and they're like no Don't fucking do that. And so one of the things that they do is they reset The air traffic or the signal?

Cris: yeah, they choose the flight from London.

Sidey: 200 meters down yards or whatever it is down so that they the planes now think that you know ground is 200

Reegs: is 200

Pete: you think that's a setting that they can?

don't

Sidey: but it is in his

Pete: I know, but I just wonder how many times that's ever been used. It's like, oh,

Cris: I think under the settings of

Reegs: didn't they have the lights on though?

So I didn't really

Pete: No, they switched all the lights off.

Cris: there is a, if you let me finish there is a, there is a system.

I can't remember what it's called in, in English, but there is a system which has got, there's like an acronym for like I O S or something like that, which is for fog, heavy snow or stuff like that, where. It kind of lands on its own, but then you just put all the coordinates into the system. So it tells you altitude, weather, and it kind of sets you to land.

So I think that's why

Pete: makes sense because obviously not all airfields will be at exactly the

Cris: Well, that's why that's why the Jersey one doesn't have that because you need the runway to be another 400 meters. There's a certain length and a certain kind of system on, on the, yeah, the girth.

Sidey: runway stat, but to show that they mean business they then Say to the pilot of XYZ jet, right, you can, you can land, knowing full well it's just gonna fucking plow into the

Pete: the ground.

And it's him. I've forgotten his name.

Reegs: John C. Reilly.

Pete: It's not John C. Riley. It's

Reegs: Re

Cris: Colm, Colm

Reegs: John. Oh,

Pete: It is Cole Meanie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, it's one of a number of cameos 'cause, but up to this point you've had John

Cris: Leguizamo, John Leguizamo,

Pete: he's a

Reegs: head. Robert

Pete: Robert Patrick. Robert Patrick and him. John C.

Reilly.

Cris: calm, calm mini.

Reegs: John. Call me.

Sidey: So yeah McLean goes out tries to semaphore them, they're just waving to say this is the ground level not fucking where you think it is and then we just see the pilots realise way too late and boom.

Reegs: You hear them screaming and like, we're gonna die and all this and then it just

Sidey: This really upset my daughter, I have to say.

Reegs: upset

Pete: I'm not surprised, it's terrible.

Sidey: She said, she said, is anyone, so bear in mind, do you remember the explosion? She goes, did anyone survive that? And I'm like, I think maybe one or two, yeah.

Pete: And then they show like a kid's like, baby, like doll.

Cris: the doll,

Pete: because,

Reegs: gotta be honest, I just felt weird, like, because after the thing in South Korea this week, like,

Sidey: week, like,

Reegs: Well, yeah, and hitting a wall really fast as well yeah,

Sidey: Unsurprisingly,

Pete: Unsurprisingly, yeah.

Cris: He's traumatized, Chris, I

Sidey: He's traumatised,

Chris,

Reegs: He's traumatised, Chris, I would say. He's got like a blanket round him and he's like,

Sidey: you know. It's cold.

Cris: Yeah, I, I was saying to Saidi earlier, this is, I think the time where I couldn't, I didn't have enough time and I had to stop the film.

So this is where my adventure with this film stops now.

Sidey: you also got put off by the timing of

Cris: No, I, I have to say, I have noticed because I had to stop the movie because I had to leave that when they said to McLean, your wife's plane, the guy from the Dulles Tower, he's like, oh, McLean, I'm really sorry. I have to inform you that your wife's plane has enough fuel for 90 minutes.

The time until the end of the movie was 60 minutes.

Reegs: oh.

Sidey: Not yeah, they don't all work in real time.

Pete: Yeah

Cris: oh, do they not?

Pete: Not all films

Sidey: But I know you mean

Cris: That's disappointing

Well, I'm just saying that's an observation I had,

Sidey: So now it's there's another unit of special ops people brought in.

Reegs: Yeah. Led by John Amos.

Sidey: Yeah, J Mos.

Reegs: Yeah. Looking really cool. And they appear to be the real deal as they come in.

Sidey: Shout a bit at McLean and tell him to, like, stay in his lane.

Reegs: a little bit, but also listen to him a bit. Know that he's, they sort of side with him

Sidey: Because everyone, it's, they name, they go back to Nakatomi Plaza. Everyone's, oh, you're the guy, you know, from two years ago, blah, blah, blah. So he's got some kudos, but they're also like, well, you're a bit

Reegs: constantly tries to downplay it though, because he's, he's not that Because there's also a reporter on the ground, needlessly, because we've got two, two in the, we've got one in the fucking sky as well.

Pete: Yeah

Sidey: She says that she'll fuck him if he helps her get a story.

Reegs: and the

Sidey: The woman on

Reegs: who helped send the fax,

Pete: Yeah!

Reegs: just the fax, Matt, she was like throwing

Sidey: I, I finish in an hour if you want to fuck. And he's like, no, if Flash's wedding ring out, he would have done it.

Pete: I would have done it.

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: wait

Reegs: Where were we?

Cris: Yeah.

after the first crash, after the crash they

Pete: but you know, this, this guy, Major Grant is his name, but you also learned that he, that this Stewart, Colonel Stewart was his like protege, like kind of learn everything from Major Grant as well.

So you think, ah, this guy will come in and sort him out because he'll be one step ahead of him and know all of his moves. He's, he's, he's well supported though, this Esperanza, like he's got. Like stewart and and all of these henchmen Like almost all of whom just die horrible deaths like all the way throughout of it

Reegs: Yeah. And I, I completely, were they just mercenaries for hire or There is a Wikipedia thing that talks about like some blah blah bit of extra plot that tried to explain why Sadler was doing any of

Sidey: I should know, just mercenaries who've just been paid.

Reegs: Yeah. He's quite a Characterless villain, isn't he

Sidey: It is a drop off from

Pete: Oh, Rickman, yeah. Gruber.

Reegs: not a lot to him

Sidey: he's, he is like, elite

Pete: Yes, yeah, yeah, that is, that is true, yeah.

Yeah, lots of, lots of airport

Sidey: Well, there is, there is varying levels of shenanigans until the, is it the weird guy that seems to live under the

Pete: Marv? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is, which is ironic because we all know a weird guy called Marv as well, don't we?

Cris: yeah.

Sidey: Is it him or someone else points out that there's a thing that goes through, they're looking at the schematics. Actually, it might be the the blackfella, I can't remember his name. Anyway, he says, oh, this thing goes through the whole airport and it, and it.

Just like starts up by the church thing.

Reegs: The beacon. He's got

Sidey: So they kind of like figure out that it's gonna be up there and Bruce Willis and him go up there to sort of scope it out, kills another henchman.

Reegs: Well, there's a massive firefight that erupts

Sidey: That's when they go back with the,

Reegs: with John Amos and the Special Ops guys.

Pete: Stuart crashes this plane. They don't fuck around too much more after that and Esperanza gets the Go ahead. His windscreen's been fucked on the plane and he's killed all the people on the plane now He's flying it, but he can't really see what's going on So he gets them to light up one of the runways which they do he lands.

She like shadily but manages to get it down. But first on the scene is is obviously our hero There's a bit of a shootout

John ends up inside the plane Esperanza out with all of the mercenaries. And they just shoot the absolute fuck out of the plane,

Sidey: The biggest delay, biggest delay on a grenade I've ever seen. And no one misses a shot, they were like perfect shots.

Pete: Yeah. Exactly. That would

Reegs: have all been professional basketball

Pete: Yeah. But lots and lots of delay on those grenades like you say, but yeah, he's locked in the cockpit when 20 grenades come in and he's like looking at them and thinking, what can I do? Realizes there's an ejector seat on the pilot's

Sidey: bit looked a bit flaky.

Pete: Did, yeah, it

Sidey: didn't, but it was fine.

Pete: And so he manages to strap himself in and eject out just as the that plane there's a lot of destruction of planes in this film so yeah that that happens and then uh they they hightail it back to their lair at the church as all of the emergency services and stuff arrive to to find john there still going after he's been through

far

Reegs: down and then they dubbed a really bad line in afterwards like where's the door or something he says as he's trying to get out of the parachute I cringed It's just like you know one of those they put in afterwards like oh that'll be funny go on Bruce say it and then they go on we'll put it in the movie.

Pete: the door? yeah,

Reegs: so yeah, he goes back with John Amos, right? We're going to take the church, we're going to fuck everything up. This is all set out to be a big shootout, which it kind of is. There's snowmobiles and shit involved. And McLean grabs one of the guy's weapons, fires it, realizes there's like a, they're going towards each other, aren't they?

And his doesn't fire or it fires

Sidey: He doesn't say it at first.

Reegs: You see his surprise

Sidey: He looks at the,

Reegs: like a load of

Sidey: at the clip with the mag, doesn't he? And he's like,

Reegs: And you've seen them with blue mags and red mags throughout the movie, like changing

Sidey: so he eventually does go back and he goes to Dennis Franz and shoot, like guns him down in front of everyone.

Reegs: Imagine how quickly he'd have been killed, eh? He's in a police station and he fires that gun at him to get his attention that it's blanks and he'd have just been dead.

Pete: Might be obvious what was the point in all the blanks

Sidey: to,

convince the authorities that they were on their side, whilst they're not. Yeah,

Reegs: Because there's the big reveal at the same time we get all the new guy, the new recruit on the team as the team go away.

Sidey: He's saying, oh, I really like being on this team. Yeah, he's like, oh, that's

Reegs: he's like, Oh, that's great. And then just slits his

Sidey: so I've seen this film, I don't know, three or four times before, and I've

Reegs: Were you surprised?

Sidey: was like, oh fuck, they're baddies! And all

Pete: your 11 year old daughter's like watching people get like burn alive Throat slit like fucking all kinds of things. Yeah

Reegs: Yeah, so it is the big, shocking reveals, idea that they are actually Yeah.

Sidey: The code signal is Eagle's Nest or something and then Hatchling, we're online or some shit. And he's like, okay, yes, blah, blah, blah. So they all get on boards the jumbo that's been presented to them by the goodies.

Reegs: Yeah. because They

have to have a 747 for some reason, even though there's only about 15

Sidey: 15 guys.

Pete: Maybe, maybe they got a lot of luggage.

Sidey: luggage, you know. It, and it's going, it's, it's going down the runway.

Reegs: It's the same runway that was in the Fast and the Furious movie, I think, because it just goes on. Exactly. It goes on for about 20 minutes.

Sidey: And

the only way to stop it really is to get on a helicopter

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: and fly towards it and jump out onto the wing,

Reegs: And then get you and then, right. So he, he gets rid of Amos fairly quickly, doesn't he?

He gets dispatched into the engine but then Sadler comes out and beats the

Pete: But the engine is fine

Sidey: a few

Pete: like after a human has gone through it and there's not that

Sidey: Birds can take the shit down as we've seen, and I think, you know, that's

Reegs: John Amos is a big guy as well, so.

Sidey: Disappointing lack of, like, blood splatter, it was only a small

Pete: Yeah. again, again, I'm thinking or now thinking about your daughter watching this film.

It's

Sidey: a

Cris: It's a 747 though.

Reegs: Sadler and McLean. Sadler mostly beats the shit out of him, except for when he bites a piece of his thumb off, I think, and

Sidey: of him except when he fights a piece of thumb off. So he's gonna target that.

Reegs: Yeah, so as he gets booted off, I think we, there's the reveal that this, all the fuel is coming out. Sadler fails to notice as he gets back into the plane and yippee ki yay, motherfucker.

Pete: Lighter. I was trying to work out, so, you think how fast the plane's going away

Sidey: you do some maths?

Pete: Well, I didn't

Cris: you should have done a spreadsheet.

Pete: yeah, thinking How fast the plane's traveling away from him

Sidey: Well, it does a little jump, doesn't it? Off the ground, the fire.

Pete: yeah, but it but it also it catches up pretty quickly that fire.

I don't know if it would that happen,

Cris: it goes really quickly, especially with

Pete: but but on the

Sidey: the ground speed of a 747 and the rate of travel of a

Pete: Yeah.

yeah, but the rate that the flame is

Sidey: does catch

Reegs: are you saying there is something that it might not be true in this

Pete: only this bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But yeah, that happens, it does. As the plane's taking off, the flame catches up, goes into the fuel tank and, and kablowy,

yeah.

Another blown up plane. Yeah. Our third

Reegs: dead. They're all dead. And then as McLean runs back to go and see Holly, they realize,

Sidey: no, no,

Reegs: I know you get the, the death of has caused a runway.

Sidey: The the pilot says, we're just gonna have to fucking try.

'cause we're gonna, we're about to fall out the skies we're gonna have to try and land. And McLean shouts out for us. All the flames are the

Reegs: light! And

Sidey: they use the, the line of yeah. airline fuel that's on fire

Pete: fire. That must be disconcerting if you're coming in low on fuel and you just look down and it's just like

Sidey: fuel

Pete: fucking three exploded planes all over the Yeah,

Reegs: Yeah, I know.

Pete: really

Reegs: We really should have landed at that other airport that's only about 200 miles away.

Pete: Yeah,

Sidey: Yes, they make it down everyone gets to jump down the fun.

Pete: Holly takes her sweet time about it though, that was annoying me, like in those circumstances it'd be like right, fucking get down the slide, get down the slide, she stops holding everybody up while she's like looking for John.

Sidey: There's been the whole subplot about the news report, Dick. Yeah. And he's been causing pandemonium by phoning in a news bulletin

Reegs: He's done a sort of sensationalist version of, well, he's done, he's done his job. I don't know. Anyway, she's tasted him in the bathroom, which has caused him to keep his eyes open. Did you, is that like just stare? Did you see that?

Pete: i don't know i've not been tased

Reegs: i don't know

It's more convulsing, isn't it? I'm not going

Sidey: Yes, okay, I don't know, seizures type thing, but yeah, so that has happened. Did everyone say remove high heeled shoes before?

Pete: i was actually looking to see if they had shoes on because again i for whatever reason i find myself going like Uh, there's a plot hole, there's a plot hole, like, and I'm like, it's a fucking, like, ludicrous,

Cris: 1990 movie,

Pete: yeah, of course, yeah.

Reegs: And yeah, I think it bookends with, he gets let off the parking ticket.

All he had to do was

Sidey: was The original dude is Lorenzo's cousin. Yeah. Or brother or something. Yeah. And he sort of looks at him and goes, oh, you prick. And that's the end really

Reegs: And he's like, oh, I'll let you, it's Christmas, I'll let you off a ticket. All you had

Sidey: Yeah, they're mates now i think they're screaming at each other

Pete: turns up in some sort of like luggage cart and gives him a little

Sidey: driving around like a

maniac

Pete: yeah, fuck it, I'd get him checked, he must be on a register somewhere.

Reegs: Mm. The act, he, they were sort of playing him

Slow is the word you might

Pete: like he must have

Cris: just weird.

Yeah,

Pete: was a janitor, wasn't he?

Cris: Yeah, he was a janitor. Yeah. And he had this like, he was like sidey with his records.

Pete: janitor at our school was a child rapist, so maybe that's

Sidey: I don't think all of them are.

Cris: yeah, I hope not. I hope not all of them,

Sidey: I don't know. Most. So, what do we think?

Cris: Oh, this was great!

Sidey: Yeah, correct.

Cris: Look, whenever you're gonna watch a Bruce Willis movie, especially from the 90s, plus we've all seen it before. It's a die hard movie, the second one, it can't be

Sidey: The trouble is, right, I really enjoyed it, right, I really enjoyed it, but it is following Die Hard 1.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Which is

Cris: That good,

Sidey: lot better. A lot better villain, like you say, it's got, it's got like a Marvel problem here where the villain is just kind of like but they do kill a lot of people. So then in that sense they're quite villainous. But in terms of like a lead villain, he's not a patch on Anna written.

Like he just isn't. But still, I still really, really like this. Yeah, it's great. And it was really successful. Did more than double

Pete: It did. Yeah, it did. Well, this, this is where my factoid comes in. So let me get this right. So at the, at that, so that year, so 1990 this the number one and number two at the box office for that year were, I don't know in which order, but ghost and

Sidey: this.

Cris: Die Hard

Pete: too.

And obviously Demi Moore was in ghost and he was in thingy die hard too. And they were married

Sidey: Yeah.

Pete: that. Was the first time it had ever happened

Reegs: that a co, a married

Pete: a married couple were in in the two highest grossing films of the year And it never happened since until this year.

Reegs: Oh, go on.

Sidey: Hang on.

Pete: tell me

Reegs: No,

Pete: and the numbers obviously were higher,

Reegs: I also want to immediately think of other couples that did it. But anyway, this

Pete: This year it's

Cris: the year of Barbie and that?

Reegs: No,

I don't know. Barbie was last year, wasn't it?

Last Christmas,

Cris: I don't know. I don't even know what

Sidey: year, Wicked?

Reegs: Yeah, I don't know.

Sidey: Go on then.

Reegs: Go

Pete: Right. What I, what I will tell you,

Sidey: me some sort of clue.

Pete: Oh, okay. I'll give you a clue. Oh God.

one of the films is I think it ends with us. Oh it is. Yeah,

Reegs: with us.

Pete: it ends with us

Sidey: Blake Lively and Ryan Gosling.

Pete: Correct Ryan

Reynolds.

Cris: Ryan Reynolds. Oh, Deadpool and Wolverine.

Pete: which I think she is also in.

Cris: Well they're gonna divorce now, no? No. Are they not?

Pete: Well, Demi and Bruce did and that's I think that's what caused

Sidey: There was some chat about, oh, this is what they were, they were saying, and lipreaders were saying this is what they're saying.

But I think

Cris: Oh, I don't know. I've just seen

Sidey: That would be ironic

Pete: though, if history repeated and there was another

Sidey: Yeah.

Pete: as a direct consequence of being number one and number

two at

Sidey: number two in the broadcast.

Pete: Yeah, that's my factoid.

Sidey: That was a good one.

Pete: Yeah. What I would also say is I immediately watched Die Hard 3 afterwards And I, I did really like this.

It's, it's silly and it's hammy and it's, but it's, it's John McClane. Bruce Willis is fucking brilliant. All the sort of like, you know, you know, like you get the character actors and little kind of like and the cameos are cool and blah blah blah. But yeah, three is better. And what's his name? Jeremy Irons, I thought was a stronger

Sidey: jeremy's iron yeah i agree three is better

Pete: yeah And one is obviously

Sidey: the pinnacle yeah yeah

Pete: the best. Anything to add to that?

Reegs: Just at the 90s, they did do like good stunt work. You know the movies these days, apart from the other one we're going to review, but they're mostly like these CGI squibs and, you know, real bodies being hurt and It's great to

Pete: Yeah, there was one bit where there's like, obviously like a mannequin

like dressed up into that. I remember like hitting the floor and getting crushed

Reegs: I'd rather see that than a weightless like CGI body and a camera zooming around it. I think I'd honestly rather see that in some ways.

Pete: And, and, yeah, you like the Fast and the Furious

Reegs: Yeah, it's great.

Pete: dog's dick.

Reegs: Strong

Pete: This is a strong recommend though.