April 10, 2024

Midweek Mention... Death Wish

Midweek Mention... Death Wish

Welcome back to Bad Dads Film Review, where today we're taking aim at a controversial classic that arguably defined an entire genre: Death Wish (1974). Directed by Michael Winner and starring Charles Bronson as the archetypal vigilante, Paul Kersey, this film sparked debate upon its release and continues to be a topic of conversation for cinephiles and critics alike.

Death Wish plunges viewers into the grim reality of a New York City plagued by crime and fear. Charles Bronson's Paul Kersey is an architect, a conscientious objector turned avenging angel after a brutal attack leaves his wife dead and his daughter catatonic. The film explores Kersey's transformation from a peace-loving citizen into a gun-toting vigilante, taking the law into his own hands to exact revenge on the city's muggers and criminals.

The narrative thrust of Death Wish follows Kersey as he prowls the streets at night, baiting criminals so he can dispatch his own brand of justice. It's a brutal, morally ambiguous journey that forces viewers to question the lines between right and wrong, justice and vengeance.

Death Wish was ground-breaking for its stark portrayal of vigilante justice, a theme that has been replicated, examined, and critiqued in countless films since. Bronson's stoic performance as Kersey became iconic, embodying the frustrations and fears of a city (and a nation) feeling powerless against rising crime rates. The film's gritty realism, combined with its controversial subject matter, makes it a compelling yet uncomfortable watch.

Despite its controversies, or perhaps because of them, Death Wish is a seminal film in the action genre. It's a product of its time yet remains relevant in its exploration of crime, fear, and the lengths to which individuals will go to feel safe. It offers no easy answers but instead serves as a gritty, thought-provoking piece of cinema that continues to resonate with audiences today.

So, whether you view Death Wish as a thrilling action film or a problematic portrayal of justice, there's no denying its impact on cinema and culture. Join us on Bad Dads Film Review as we delve into the dark streets of New York City with Paul Kersey, exploring the legacy and controversies of this iconic film. 🎬🔫👨‍👧‍👦🍿

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Death Wish

Cris: not as bad as that guy that worked out the sperm thing and turns out he had like 36 kids or

Sidey: is he jizzing in all the samples? Yeah. Nice.

Dan: Just

are we going live

Sidey: We are live yeah.

Dan: Oh, fuck

Tank boss talk walk jam nitty gritty You listening to the boy from the big bad city This is motherfucking jam hot

Sidey: Death Wish? 1974.

Because there is a remake, right? Yes. Of Bruce Willys.

Reegs: Willis one, yeah.

Cris: I can't believe I actually didn't know that there was an initial one like a first one and then I've only seen the Bruce Willis one and it's amazing because he's a skater.

Reegs: Well, it spawned a bit of a franchise some of which I've seen number three, definitely.

Sidey: I haven't seen any yet. I haven't seen the remake. this. is my first entry in the Death Wish universe.

I

Dan: think I've

Cris: for the, this

Dan: like three and four actually, but I've never seen this

one

Reegs: this one. They were much more cartoonish than this original 1974, was it?

Cris: 1974.

Dan: pretty

Reegs: grim,

Sidey: our first Michael winner movie.

Reegs: Yeah, calm, calm down, dear.

Dan: Well, I remember going to see this at the cinema, of course, it was a bleak day. But Charlie Bronson brightened it up.

Sidey: Well, it starts off quite bright, doesn't it? Because they're, they're On the beach.

right.

Him and his wife, aren't they happy And, content?

And they're kissing.

Dan: yeah, and kissing and they, they've got this new fangled

Sidey: used to have. We

used to have a camera like that. at home, yeah.

Dan: It's

like a camera you don't need anything for, it just takes snaps.

Reegs: And

Sidey: And they, they're kissing. And she says should we go back to the hotel? I assume they meant for food, or? lunch.

Reegs: go and

Dan: put him back in ice because he looks a bit like a walrus and he's got that

Sidey: He's surprisingly built though.

Reegs: built

Sidey: only

Cris: good

Reegs: you only saw him from the face upwards, you'd be like, you would not guess that he had that

Sidey: You

Dan: You would think he is the body of a walrus. But

Sidey: No,

He's in great

Dan: He's in?

Sidey: Because he's 52 or something in this. Yeah, in this.

Fucking hell. Yeah.

Dan: in, yeah.

Sidey: This is the era, This is the era where

a leading man could have a moustache.

Right. Or should have a moustache.

Dan: looks a

Reegs: And not could,

Dan: Pitt out of Fight Club, his physique. I mean, he is pretty solid.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: You Don't see him,

naked though, unfortunately.

Cris: though, unfortunately.

Sidey: we should clarify that.

Reegs: So anyway, very much in love. Anyway, they travel back to New York City. They're stuck in traffic jams, which is when I first noticed that the music was absolutely fucking amazing in

Dan: Hancock.

Reegs: because it Herbie Hancock did the soundtrack and I presume you all loved it as well.

Sidey: Yeah, yeah

Dan: to be honest, I wasn't sure they fitted in everywhere on every scene, but I really liked the soundtrack anyway, I

Reegs: Yeah, it was brilliant. And they eventually arrived back at their sort of spacious New York apartment with the amazing seventies decor. Decor,

Sidey: well straight away You've got

the juxtaposition of them sitting in traffic horns blaring. it's Miserable. and Dirty. And it's, you know, they've just been in Hawaii, isn't it?

they were at? And it's two very different locales. Yes. And he goes to work. doesn't He He works as an architect

Reegs: Yeah. And he's the movie like gets straight to the heart of his politics, right? With his colleague who's complaining about the crime rates in New York. And when Paul tries to say, well, this is probably a result as a result of like underprivileged and sort of systemic racism.

He's called a bleeding heart liberal

Sidey: And

Reegs: he's kind of really comfortable with who he is. He doesn't bother to argue with the guy. So yeah, that's just.

Dan: No, but you wouldn't argue with someone like Paul. Paul was just like one of those people who was clearly

Sidey: well, these are kind of

Elitist people we see some parties later on and they're all very hoity toity and probably stick their nose up at people, but yeah, they're having some conversations about such and such a development and will it turn a profit?

Is it what they want?

blah blah

Dan: blah.

And it is, it is nice to see the fashion and of 74 and just the, the modern technology that was around in the day like the fax machines and the, you know, the, the computers and all those kind of things we take for granted now as being very slim and, and there you could see it was high tech they were of the time.

Sidey: And his wife is out shopping.

Reegs: Yeah, with, with his daughter,

Dan: And there's a fly around, isn't

there?

Sidey: Yeah, there is. Mr. Goldblum appears There's various ne'er do wells in Just knocking about the street and there's this gang of three lads who are making a mess and shouting and swearing and doing

graffiti. One of which is Jeff Goldblum in his

Dan: and swearing and doing graffiti.

One of which

Sidey: I think he's the head freak

Dan: Jeff Goldblum and his

Sidey: They threw a Chicken.

Reegs: At first it just seems like, kind of,

Sidey: cartoonish

Reegs: cartoonish hijinks,

but then it gets a bit menacing when he looks at the address that the groceries are going to be delivered to for Cursey's wife and daughter, and then they

Dan: and they pretend to be the, the delivery guys and barge into the

Sidey: It was always a bit Clockwork Orange,

this bit, wasn't

Dan: it?

It really was. Yeah. And they barge into the, the house the apartment,

Sidey: of all.

It's just a shakedown for money. and it

Dan: It's just a daugh. It's just a daughter and his wife in

Sidey: The wife has 3 in their purse I think the daughter has two. Something like that. I mean, it's really

pitiful amount of money and So they're

really angry and it very, very quickly escalates into a like a rape, homicide scenario.

Where they

they, they

batter the wife.

Reegs: With a kosh. He strikes

Sidey: He has some very coarse language as well.

Reegs: says, goddamn rich cunt, I kill rich cunts.

Sidey: did say that.

But they've more, very like, graphically

and quite disturbingly

Dan: it's quite a graphic rape scene, isn't it?

I mean, they,

Reegs: they spray paint her bum with red dye and then she's forced to fellate one of the guys and some other stuff I

Dan: rip her clothes right

Reegs: rip her clothes right off. It goes on for quite a long time and it's really harrowing. So, and then after it's done, They leave and

Sidey: I think they

Reegs: you watch her kind of eventually pull herself up and phone the police, like, it's

Dan: That's right

Sidey: over I

think they? see her do that, don't they Or see her still, and one of them kicks her, I think, on the way out.

Which I think is what causes the damage. And so we're back at his office, and he asks for his secretary to put a call through. A different call comes through, it's more high tech stuff with the telephones, Yeah. and it's his son.

Dan: it's

Reegs: it's his son in law, but he calls him dad,

Sidey: a real, fucking, I don't know.

Dan: He doesn't know, there's been like an attack.

Sidey: he's, He just says, no, there's been, like, an attack. It didn't have the details, I've just been telephoned. I'm going to need to meet me at the hospital, basically.

And they go to the hospital.

Dan: And it's all really weird like the bedside

Sidey: This bit was incredible. This

bit was

Dan: One doctor comes in he goes good news.

Yeah,

Sidey: guy.

Dan: Good

news. Your

Sidey: He goes, he goes to the son in law and says, yeah is there any update? And He says, yeah a bit of operation. She's going to be fine. And then Bronson chirps up what about wife? Oh no, she's dead.

Reegs: worry, she's gone. You

Sidey: no, like,

sit down. Let's have, You know, I need to speak to you. It's just like, just stand there and goes, oh she's fucking

she died about 10 minutes ago.

He's like,

Dan: he takes it like

Reegs: it was like that. It was like that, yeah.

Dan: yeah. And he takes it like a champ. He's, he's pretty devastated.

And we, we kind of miss some, some bits. Cause you've got the funeral then, it jumps over. And then

Reegs: In the snow.

Sidey: jumps over and then At this point the the daughter has sort recovered to

a

Reegs: heavily sedated

Cris: never recovers,

Sidey: no. She goes well she goes She makes it to the funeral.

Cris: Right, yeah,

Sidey: stood there but then afterwards she goes into a vegetative

Dan: And we do hear a couple of times, you know, how, Updates, he said, Oh, look, yeah, she made it to the the funeral, but she hadn't been good up until then.

And then we, we realized afterwards, then she was, that was too much effort for her because she's just out and account for the rest of the movie. Really. You

Cris: Yeah, she doesn't have any more lines. She's just kind of, you see her in a

Dan: but we do, we do see her, her son in law who's, you know, Her husband who's taking on the, the mantle of trying to get some doctors in and, and bits pieces like that.

And he says to dad, look, you need to stay away because it happened in your apartment. Some doctors think that might be a trigger and he's an opportunity to go to like Arizona, isn't it? And

Sidey: it's cowboy country.

Yeah.

Dan: and he goes right. Okay. Look I need to get out of here as well. So he heads over

Sidey: check on this development

Dan: it's that's right.

It's a development. He's gonna do isn't it for some cowboy in the in tucson, arizona

Sidey: Yeah Yeah

Right.

And we get

Reegs: Well before he goes though we see him. Right, after the funeral and that, he, he goes to see the police, and the police are like, there's no chance we're gonna catch who did this you know, and the only witness is so traumatized that she can't say anything, we've got no leads, and all this stuff, and he goes to the bank and gets a load of quarters and fills a sock up with them, and basically you see him like, looking out the window at night you can see he's improvised some sort of weapon, and then he goes for a walk, basically looking for trouble

Dan: He's got a quarter rolled up in it in socks, so it's a bit of a,

Reegs: And a

guy asks him for a ciggy or something and you're really not sure what he's gonna do and then he fucking twats him with the, the

Dan: well he, the guy has got a, a gun or a knife or something, doesn't he?

Sidey: he He tries to shake him down, doesn't he?

Dan: Yeah. And, and, but just before that he met that guy. There was another guy who was just lighting a cigarette and he turned around like he was ready to wallop

Reegs: ready to go.

Dan: was, you know, he was like, he was on a death wish.

Sidey: So anyway,

Reegs: yeah, he goes back to his apartment.

He has a big drink and all that sort of stuff. And it's lucky that he has this now escaped Tucson, Arizona. Cause who knew, who knows what would have happened? So this, when he goes and meets Ames a client who takes him around some sort of development and he takes him to this like Disney fied Western town where they it's like a movie set and it's like a mock gun fight.

And a sheriff cleaning up the town

Dan: those, I've been to those

Sidey: Yeah. We avoid things

Reegs: and Cursey's watching it pretty transfixed at the sheriff cleaning up the town. And he throws himself into his work, Ames invites him to his gun club, which is where we get his backstory about being a conscientious

Sidey: Mm-Hmm.

Dan: He was brought up with guns and he knows how to use them.

The reason he, yeah, he didn't, it was something, Was it something to do with his father?

Cris: Died in a hunting

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: where someone mistaken him for a deer

Dan: and so, And so mum,

Reegs: That is true. Yeah,

Sidey: Happens more

Cris: happens more often than you think

Dan: Yeah You

Sidey: he has served, he

Reegs: But he has served, he served during the Korean War as a combat medic. So,

Dan: And, yeah, he's, his shooting is just, like, exceptional. He's

Sidey: Well, I

Reegs: he's a real contradiction to Ames, isn't he? Because he again calls him, Oh, you're a knee jerk liberal.

You're here to take my guns away. You know, even though he's not said those things,

Sidey: things there's a nice bit of,

Like shooting on the range where he fucking bullseyes the first target.

like, couldn't be more perfect. Pure. Which is a theme 'cause he'd never fucking

misses rest of

Reegs: Well,

Dan: And he's gifted these guns at the end of his time in

Sidey: It's a lovely little gift box

isn't it?

Dan: Yeah! he

Reegs: This was fucking amazing, because he knew what this was, and he just like, Oh, are you checking your bags through? Yeah. Oh, I'm just gonna put this in here. A gun. Imagine that,

Sidey: Well, the guy's just like

As long as

you check it

Reegs: Yeah, it'll be fine.

Sidey: absolutely sound.

This is 1974.

Reegs: is 1974.

Dan: domestic

Reegs: I know, but it's still amazing.

Dan: It's amazing what you can get away with in America even now, I think, you know. It's like a bus trip, a flight, internally.

Reegs: I think you have to have a gun now, don't you? You're not allowed on a flight without one.

Dan: everybody needs to be armed to the teeth. But he's got these guns then back

Cris: only one.

Dan: Yeah, he's guns. Yeah, it's just one, is

Sidey: Yeah, Yeah, just one,

Cris: a 38

Dan: it was a like a, an old, it had a story to it. It was like an old western

Reegs: There you go, that's

Dan: you go, that's the story. And he takes this out one night and again, instead of a bag of coins and a sock, he's now got this 32.

Sidey: He's packing. Yeah,

Dan: he's got some slugs with it and aims must know what he's doing because he's giving him all these bullets with it as well but and he's thinking probably not

Sidey: well, at this point, New York is known as like

Murder capital. you

know, it's absolute hell

Reegs: They've also had this big chat, I think, out there where he's talked about the pioneers and what kind of a man are you if you can't defend yourself and all this sort of

Dan: And we don't have the same trouble you get down in New York because we can sort it out ourselves and he's buying into all this and given his last sort of six months, a year, you think, okay, now he wants to protect himself, but

Reegs: yeah. Well, when he's come back as well, because she's worse, she's much worse and has been

Dan: Well, those doctors haven't helped a bit that his son in law

Sidey: Well, his son in law gives him some chat and he just goes, well, you've handled this terribly .

Reegs: yeah.

Sidey: Like

sympathetic. he's

Dan: like hey dad don't give me a hard time man and you think well you have handled it shit It's almost like you want her out the way she can go out with the boys, but

that doesn't happen

he's

He just kind of wanders the street at night going into Central Park.

There is no person particularly that is

Sidey: got nothing to lose

now,

Dan: that's it.

Reegs: got nothing to lose. He's looking for trouble. He knows trouble's never very far away because there's a constant stream of black guys. I mean, basically, the movie is very clear about this. He

Dan: He takes

a big wad of money out in a cafe, doesn't he and then pays like with a five dollar bill and then walks out and a stream of people kind of follow him these hoodlums and he takes absolutely no prisoners and he doesn't give them a chance to even give, you know, you're going to shoot first, then I'm going to shoot.

No, I'm fucking shooting first. It's like, as soon as you say, I want your money, I'm going to kill you.

Sidey: It's the first one the guy down at the the docks?

Reegs: Or the

Sidey: kind of seafront? anyway

Reegs: addict guy. Because he goes home and he's sick afterwards. He is actually quite affected by it.

Sidey: cuz if you see the first one with the coins, he's really shaking.

When he has a drink, he's like doing comedic kind of like, yeah shaking my place then this way. it's not like full, You like full vigilante mode. I mean, he's willing to do it, but he's not. Unaffected by it.

Reegs: Well, he's escalating and

Dan: Yeah, he keeps going back and he's liking after this He does cry he's upset, but he goes again and he puts the box the gun box in his work

Which is a good idea for a little bit later as they start the squeeze because so basically he starts doing these murders

on

Hoodlums and vigilant on violent people outside and

Sidey: it's only when, it's only when he gets confronted that he does anything.

Dan: Yeah, but the crime rate starts being reduced, doesn't it?

Sidey: Well, he does, So, so there's the first one There's one by the waterfront by the park that he kills That guy I think the next one's on the subway. He's reading the newspaper and the guy comes up with a quite a lot of blades in this and he,

Cris: yeah,

and then he

Sidey: his newspaper.

Cris: in the, in the metro. This

Sidey: And he

Reegs: This is when the police start to get onto him because they start to narrow it slightly down.

Actually, amazingly

Cris: quickly,

Yeah, I

Sidey: they pinpoint it down to

Cris: was Colombo had nothing on that guy.

Sidey: It's it's pinned down to an area around his basically where he does his shopping.

Reegs: He says he's looking for anybody who is the victim of or related to somebody who is the victim of a mugging. Yeah, somebody who was in the military. So

Dan: these fair few murders happen around this neighborhood,

Sidey: able to pinpoint him, but then they're like, but he's a conscientious objector, so it's unlikely

to be. him, even though

Dan: but they do still tail him and they still kind of look at him and

Cris: and break into his house

Dan: And they break into his house, where he doesn't have the gun, thankfully,

Sidey: frankly. But there's a bit where they go to a party, right? And at this point, he had killed quite a lot of people. And I was thinking, man, they're really making the black people into, like, the criminals a lot of these hold ups, They're always black, And he's killing a lot of black people. And a woman literally says,

All the victims are black. and I think it's the guy that he works with It's like, well, you know, they're the ones doing all the crime. and you're like is this film massively racist now.

Reegs: Yeah,

Cris: it is. it is a little

Reegs: probably is pretty racist, this movie.

Yeah yeah, The media are all over him now. They've dubbed him the vigilante. They've connected the shootings and all that together. And they make an appeal to him, you know. To end his one man crusade and turn it in, and he just watches the telly smiling while he's out with his

Cris: And he's got a pile of newspapers all about him, the vigilante is like, And

Reegs: there's already rumors, isn't there? Like, you said that the crime rate's dropping, and he's going to start inspiring others to fight back.

Sidey: Batman.

Cris: and then he

Reegs: loads of other people like batman in the thing are claiming credit for it.

That's

Sidey: right

yeah.

Cris: inspires that old lady to beat these guys with a hatpin.

Sidey: Yeah. it's pretty cool. And, cause she's been mugged a few times she's like not anymore

Dan: so people are

starting to fight back and, and get onto this guy as, as some kind of hero.

Sidey: the net the net is closing like you say and so the the police, the captain of the police squad is called in to see the da and the chief of police,

and that, Well, yeah, we think we've got this guy, and they're like, Nope.

Reegs: No, you

Sidey: don't, Don't want him Don't want him. We,

we don't want to make this guy a martyr. We don't want all this attention

knowing,

people knowing that, yes, this guy is causing a drop in the fucking crime rates. We can't have that. We can't have the department look like a fucking shambles. So scare him

off get rid of

Dan: looks like a fucking shambles so scare him off and get rid of him.

So I was wondering how it was going to end, like, is

Sidey: Because I was, I was wondering how it was going to end, like was he going to die?

And I knew that there were other films though. so I knew that wasn't going to fit. So I was wondering, like, is he just

going to,

Dan: How'd

Sidey: just going to get away with it? So this is quite interesting when they start saying but yeah, okay, we might know who he is, but we're not fucking making a big deal out of this guy.

We can't.

Cris: just tell him to scare him

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: Which he doesn't, he's still kind of bit, but yeah, no, no, it wasn't me. Like, you know,

Sidey: I think

he gets a bit blase doesn't

he? Because He

knows that they're tailing him, he goes out the other door. doesn't he? Goes to

Reegs: There's a convenient Wizard of Oz themed party that just emerges from a building

Sidey: I was thinking about Big Train when that happened. And then He's And he's still, he's compelled now I think just to kill.

He because he does, the he gets held up on the steps

Reegs: He's in Central Park,

Sidey: Central Park. There's two guys

at the bottom

step. One guy who's actually got a gun this time at the top and guess what, they're all black.

And he shoots two, but he gets hit this time.

He gets

shot in the leg. And where the fuck they get

the, the blood? it Looks like

really

shit.

Reegs: Yeah, yeah,

Cris: Yeah. It

Reegs: yeah.

Sidey: So even though the net is closing he's still compelled to carry on. And he chases this guy down, but he.

is

severely wounded.

Reegs: And he chases him down to like an industrial warehouse and he's on top of the thing He's wounded and he challenges him to like a quick draw like he's a sheriff doesn't he and then he just passes out really

Cris: Whoever thought about that, what the fuck? I would've gone and shot him. If someone passes out in front of me, pull your gun out. And then he

Sidey: out Well, I thought They

might have, he might shot him and the police get there at the same time and then they like just

whisk

Cris: Yeah, I dunno. I

Dan: even sure they were gonna find him up there 'cause it was all the police cars and everything there

Cris: I wasn't happy with that.

Reegs: Well, but they, yeah, I mean, the guy's just going to run away, isn't he? Because this guy's, Paul Kersey's killed now dozens of I don't know. Anyway so he passes out. Then I think we next go to a patrolman

Sidey: Who's got

his gun,

Reegs: who, who's found the gun and he shows it to the Lieutenant and he's like, Hmm, did you find it though?

Sidey: though?

Maybe, maybe he didn't find it.

Dan: just one guy, isn't he? Goes, Oh, well, I didn't want to do anything until I spoke to you. And he goes, yeah, yeah. Okay. And you can see there's another you can wash your name.

Okay. I'll remember you like you've, you know, class classic corrupt seventies, New York cop.

Reegs: done your career. No wor harm there.

Yeah.

Dan: you're on the up and up gentlemen. And so he goes Through and says no no even though kirsey bronson is in in hospital getting patched up He's he leaves the hospital going you know, we haven't got him.

That's just guys injured. It's

Reegs: Well, but he does give him an ultimatum in the, in the hospital, you know, cause he's like, I've got to leave by sundown or whatever. Like he's the

Dan: Yeah, so it's like you gotta leave new york he's not saying i'm gonna take you in he's just

Sidey: Maybe get a transfer,

with work.

Maybe

Dan: like it out in Tucson and

Sidey: I think he goes to Wendy Sea, doesn't he?

Dan: He goes, I think, yeah, he goes to Chicago in the end. So you see him come out of hospital and starting this new kind of life in Chicago.

And,

Reegs: Yeah, the press are told that he was just a victim. You know, so there's no story anymore and the vigilante may still be out there.

Sidey: Yeah,

Reegs: he's transferred off to Chicago.

Dan: get this kind of cheesy little finger pointing gun and a wink, as he

Sidey: Chicago's problem now

Dan: Yeah, chicago's problem as he

as

Cris: went by train, I know there's not that much railway in America as in for people.

So I don't know why he

Dan: know, New York, Chicago, maybe that's a good route.

Cris: Maybe I don't know. I just found it strange because it's normally everybody

Sidey: think he'd just fly

and

Cris: Yeah, everybody

Sidey: half an hour, is that

it?

Cris: flew everywhere before that and then he just decided to take

Dan: decided not

to.

Sidey: happens I'm guessing it's, Death Wish 2 is just this in Chicago.

Cris: Yeah, probably.

Reegs: but it gets much, much more cartoonish in terms of like, you know, rocket launches and all going,

Sidey: I saw the picture for Thorn, he's got like a automatic

Dan: Yeah, he gets badass. I mean, he basically made his career big time from this, didn't Death

Reegs: Death Wish.

Cris: I'm pretty sure he was big before that, no? I mean, if he was in his 50s for this one, he must have been, he's done all those westerns.

Reegs: Yeah, Mr. Majestic and

Cris: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, so by

Dan: think if you speak to about Charles Bronson, everybody goes Death wish.

Sidey: Yes, Yeah,

that's what he's known for.

Cris: Yeah,

Dan: his big one.

Reegs: Yeah. So, I mean, originally, the original book by Brian Garfield that this was based on was clearly a satire in that it depicted a clearly bad thing as a good thing, and then you trusted your audience to work out that. They were being humorous about it, but I think Michael Winner missed the point and just decided to depict a bad thing as a good thing with no satire in I'm

Cris: sorry to interrupt you, but have you seen that it's made by the De

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Dino, yeah.

Cris: that's why. They're Italian. They're not going to, they don't care. They probably purposely said, well, this is satire. We'll take it seriously because, lol.

Sidey: I think Mike Williams is a bit of a bad end as

Cris: Is it? All right. Okay.

Reegs: but it is nonetheless, despite all of it is an interesting theme of stuff that it talks about in the movie, even if it's jumbled up and there's a load of racism in there, what it's talking about in terms of other themes about vigilante ism and crime and liberals

Dan: to America where, you know, protecting yourself with guns and

Sidey: things.

did, you like it?

No,

hit me

Dan: it? No, hit me with some facts.

Sidey: I do like the 70s films. Because they have an aesthetic and a way about

them that

pleases me. I just, I was watching going, this is just fucking

Reegs: just I didn't have a

Dan: have a problem watching it. It wasn't like, it didn't drag, it,

Sidey: Some bits of it would seem quite

amateurish.

The bit where they're in the hospital, they go into a, like a side room. And the sound, just, I don't know whether it was the thing I was watching, but it It just went all fucking but it's fairly breezy. It's like

85 90 minutes. People

with

moustache, yes. But They'd made a film before, and they The

Stone Killer in 73. Bronson and Michael winner. And they were on about doing another film

together and

Bronson

said, what should we do next? And, when I said The best script I've got is

this Death Wish thing.

It's about a man whose wife and daughter are mugged and he goes out and shoots muggers.

And Bronson said, I'd like to do that and

Reegs: and when

Sidey: it went the film, he went, no.

shooting muggers.

So that's, that's

kind of the attitude that you get in the film.

Reegs: Yeah, well, I could, I could

Sidey: it. Yeah, he's good.

Reegs: you know, it's sort

Dan: Yeah, well I could I could see you know

Sidey: It's sort of like Rocky, where In the first one he doesn't really kill anyone. And then it goes like stupid. He does kill quite a lot of people in this, to be fair. But it's

Dan: Yeah,

he does kill a lot of people and I I

Cris: it's not that many, it's about six of them, it's not that many.

Sidey: There's quite a lot of murders if you

Reegs: if many more murders is that than

Cris: Well, have you seen John Wick?

Dan: Yeah

Reegs: They're different kind of films, though. But yeah, I get your

Cris: yeah. Are they? I mean, I don't know. I thought I, I I liked it far better than the other movie that we're going to do this week. Far better. And

Sidey: Spoiler alert!

Cris: yeah, spoiler alert. I didn't understand though this, the son in law that I

Sidey: was such a drip, wasn't

Cris: he? should have not been in the movie.

They could have put a horse instead of him and it would have been a better

Dan: know

Sidey: he was, he was a

bad actor and he was a weird

character.

Cris: Dad, mom, dad, mom. Everything he said was, but what are we gonna do, dad? I think it Dad. Who the fuck man?

Dan: real drip wasn't

Sidey: mother in

Reegs: calls my dad, dad, but I don't call my father-in-law.

Sidey: I would never in a

trillion years

call my in laws mum or dad. Not a fucking million years, No way

Cris: No man. No. What is, what are you doing

Sidey: doing? when she comes, round to her gaff.

I set the dog on her. I go, Kill go on, Kill.

Anyway, . Do you want

some financial stats? Just got those. Well, do you think well hang, on, I should probably tell you what it

cost. It cost a mere

three

million dollars.

What do you think?

Dan: bucks back in the day though,

Cris: It made money, definitely made money. For the 70s, this was a great

Sidey: I mean, yeah, it's got a million sequels, so, it made twenty two million us. dollars.

Cris: the audience loved

Sidey: audience loved the film so much that Paramount raised the ticket price from 3. 50 to 4. 00. And until that point.

only The Godfather. And The Great

Gatsby had been that expensive.

to go and see. so people fucking lapped this show. up. What about

It's good, Yeah. What about a Jeff Goldblum stat

And This was his debut and he would play a similar role as Hood No. 3 in Charles Bronson's later film,

St.

Ives, from 1976.

And

That includes Jeff Goldblum's only nude scene.

Cris: Oh, we need to watch that. I need to watch that.

Sidey: I think it might be Barman, not Dick.

But I don't know that for sure,

so

Dan: sure. I'm sure you

Sidey: the fly. No. you

Reegs: It's a stunt

Sidey: I've No, it's just, You just

see his torso and his implied nudity, but you don't see Dick.

Dan: Just dreams.

Reegs: Sidey you're very hot on Jeff Goldblum's male

nudity content.

Cris: night long. Well,

Reegs: accurate. I felt that was like a voice of

Sidey: I did research that quite

Dan: where the research goes.

Cris: voice of authority That's where the goes. But who

Reegs: yeah bad politics strong recommend

Cris: bad politics,