Midweek Mention... 48 Hrs

48 Hrs

Dan: Kicking off the bands there, Reegs.

Reegs: Well, I've got, I've got one shoe on and one shoe off now.

Dan: now. Old shoeless Joe

Reegs: Yeah, yeah, that's

Dan: Which, which is just, you know, links us nicely into

Sidey: the perfect segue. Yeah. 48 hours. Yeah. This is my first time with it. Really? Yeah.

Dan: caught it like that sir.

Sidey: it before.

Yeah.

Dan: heard of it. Oh yeah.

Sidey: Oh yeah. I heard of

Dan: did you ever see another 48 Hours?

So you missed all these

Sidey: Haven't seen either of

Dan: Nolte

Sidey: Trying to do the math. 80 I think

Reegs: this was, wasn't it? Something like that.

Sidey: Years. I was trying to add up 48 and 48. It'd be 96, I guess. Yeah, yeah. Got

Dan: you're up there, yeah.

Sidey: Yeah, so

Reegs: a lot of commitment to viewing time, is

Sidey: what you're saying.

Yeah, it's, yeah. It's, it's actually 48 HRS, isn't it? Yeah. 'cause you go onto Wikipedia, it amusingly gives you the, the correct pronunciation of 48 hours, is it? Yeah. Which I appreciated. 1982 American Buddy Cop Action comedy.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Yeah, classic. Cause I remember it as a, as a kid,

Sidey: And it's Eddie Murphy, right?

So when it, as soon as it starts, or well, as soon as you see him, I'm straight away thinking, right, so did this come before

Beverly, then this is his debut. It was his debut. Motion picture debut.

Reegs: And it's also Walter Hill. He did the Warriors and Brewster's Millions and Red Heat and Co Wrote Aliens and all sorts of stuff.

So, you know, a bit of pedigree there.

Sidey: Yeah, and Nick Nolte, who's completely.

Reegs: Yeah. Do you think, right, it's, he's not, you know, Unlike him visually, is he Dan? I'm gesticulating at a young, do you think you see it at all or?

Sidey: or?

Dan: I've

had Patrick Swayze

Reegs: Get

Dan: I did, I had that, somebody said that. I've had,

Sidey: no, you're more Nick Naughty than Patrick Swayze I

Dan: Oh,

Reegs: Swayze is. Especially now he's in the crack phase as well.

Sidey: I

had

Dan: I had Brad Pitt once. No, you didn't. No, I

Reegs: to

Sidey: He had a nice line, he had a nice line in Cuban Heels in this film.

Yeah.

Nick Nolte. Yeah. Cuz if one of the first times you see him actually is after a liaison with a lady and he's getting dressed in the morning. Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah, he's like the textbook burnt out cop, isn't he? He's like slipping alcohol into his coffee and all that.

Sidey: But before we see him, we see the the bad guys. Yeah. The villains.

Reegs: Yeah, and we get this great score from James Horner as well. Did you like it?

Sidey: Horn Dog. Yeah.

Reegs: was pretty like pounding drums and bluesy and whatnot. And it's a chain gang and copper with sunglasses and a shotgun strut, you know,

Sidey: They were rubbish those policemen.

Reegs: Yeah, because Sonny Landon from the Predator

Sidey: also called Billy in this.

Reegs: called Billy. Yeah.

Dan: got one character

Sidey: twenty.

Reegs: in his tractor, I think, and says his radiator's busted. And before you know it, there's a big gunfight and Billy has taken off with Gans, who is Who is the guy? It was in the warriors. David, think he, you know, his name, something, Kelly, David, Patrick Kelly.

He was in the warriors. He's off with Gans

Dan: Yeah, they're away.

Reegs: and they're away. Exactly.

Dan: you know, you've got this scene where

I

mean, moving forward a little bit, because it's not a while before you see Eddie Murphy, but he's the one guy who might have a connection as the case comes through to Nick Nolte.

Reegs: Yeah, well, Nick Nolte, actually, he ends up going on a hotel raid with Jonathan Banks from Breaking Bad. And they're on the trail of some associate of Gan's, who we've already seen has killed some guy on a park bench. And they go for this big sort of shake down. They don't know that gans is gonna be there.

There's a shootout. Jack's weapon is taken, isn't it? Yeah. And Jonathan Banks is killed. So

Dan: Well, he is ta it is not taken, he he's,

he's kind of gotta give it to him. Yeah, because they've got

Sidey: guns on

Dan: there's obviously this thing you don't as a copper give your, your gun

Reegs: No, exactly.

Dan: And he's saying, don't do it. He is partner, he is going, you know, you've gotta just go out of here shooting. But he, he realizes he's in a rock and hard place here and he makes the decision and surprisingly he doesn't get shot. But the other guy does, he. He doesn't because he runs away, he dives

Sidey: It is a great dive. Yeah. Yeah ermine trout. He's he's a goner.

He was already wounded and now he's he's gone these guys are like violent

Reegs: Yeah,

Dan: But when he walks back into the police station afterwards, they're all giving him, like, a little bit of stick, aren't they? And he's like, yeah, well, they had it coming, they were bad cops, you know, or they weren't.

You know concentrating enough. He's not all together No

Reegs: Well, the depiction of the police as well and what that gun will go on to do his gun, Jack's gun will be responsible for a whole bunch of murders throughout this movie. So whatever he was trying to say about that,

Dan: bring it up a couple

Reegs: the police in general, what they're talking, you know, so yeah. And Jack's superior is Captain Hayden. He's Frank McRae. He was an NFL star, but I remembered him from Batteries Not Included. Did you ever see that

Sidey: Yeah, I've seen that a lot of times actually, yeah.

Reegs: he was the janitor boxing

Sidey: champion. Right, okay, yeah.

Reegs: So anyway, he gets put on to Reggie Hammond.

I forget. How does he get put on

Sidey: He's in a cell, isn't

Dan: yeah, he's in this, they're asking, Right, who knows this Gantz? Like, you know, who's got connections with him? Right, this one guy, he's, he's locked up, Reggie.

So he goes to see him, and as he's walking through, you get to hear this one guy singing Roxanne, isn't he? He's like, ROXANNE!

Sidey: And

Dan: he's really high pitched and total Eddie Murphy, and you're thinking as you're walking in, Please don't be that guy. He's got to be thinking that. Nick Nolte's got that view of, you know, walking past all these criminals.

Who knows? He sat back in a leather chair with headphones on and that's your introduction to Eddie Murphy.

Reegs: Yeah, and Nolte shouts into the Wartman to get his

Dan: Yeah,

Reegs: not really sure that's how it

works,

Sidey: it wouldn't work at all. It's not a two way thing.

Reegs: No. Reggie is, he's got six months to go on a three year sentence and you know, Jack tries to goad him into it. He shows him some photos actually. Even though Hammond doesn't want any, to do anything, to fuck up his sentence. As soon as he tells him about Wong and the Na and he drops the name Gantz, like Yeah.

He is basically demanding to be part of what's going on.

Dan: Yeah. And he's, he's pretty racist to him.

Reegs: and yeah, he's

Dan: pretty rude.

But, and the meeting doesn't go really well. But they're both need each other at this stage and I'm not sure that actually after six months out and he's shouting in front of all the other convicts. Yeah, I'll help you to this policeman. I'm thinking geez, it's you better get out now. He

Reegs: holds him up against the wall, Nolte does, and he says, We ain't partners, we ain't brothers, and we ain't friends. Cause later, Murphy's gonna say the same thing back to him when he

Sidey: it. He's granted 48 hours. Yeah. Out. Which is a coincidence because it's what the film's called.

Yeah, it's.

Dan: Just the way it goes I guess. But

Reegs: And he's shown to forge the signature, I think, of his commander to get this thing.

And I don't know if that plot point ever comes back. I didn't

Dan: pick. No. He gets away

Reegs: just more like police are a bit

Sidey: surely that would then stop any sort of conviction, conviction happening because you know, procedural stuff is what always fucks those things up.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. He would've thought so. But he didn't care. He's that

Sidey: No, it's rogue. He's gone rogue.

Reegs: They do eventually

Dan: We're gonna get him

out.

Yeah, and he, he's free and he's

they, they

start looking for Gantz. I mean, they, they've got this 48 hours and they say, well, where will he go? Where will he hang out?

Reegs: Yeah, and there's it's, there's blah, blah, blah, they end up at an apartment, don't they? And oh, it's another accomplice, Luther.

He is part of whatever is going on. It's all going to be revealed in not too long. He

Dan: Oh, he starts shooting, doesn't he? Yeah, he runs out and he he froze the door open. Yeah. Knocks him down. And it's another guy who's suddenly he's a real asshole, isn't he? He's gone. Like, he's, even though he is chained to the, the car, he's the wheel Reggie's.

Reegs: Reggie's demanded a gun, which does seem a little bit premature, I would say. He's a convicted felon out for a 48

Sidey: Armed robbery is what he's in for

Reegs: Yeah, exactly, yeah. So anyway, they do get him and they bring him into jail.

Dan: It's a fairly ridiculous plot. Yeah, it is,

Reegs: Eventually, the big, the next thing that's worth talking about, they end up through a lead at a redneck bar called Torchy's.

Just like, there's like all these confederate flags everywhere and like, you know, they look at him. I think, have we already had the N word a couple of times now, I think? And some other derogatory You know, African stereotypes and that sort of thing. But this is a good scene because he gives Nolte gives Eddie Murphy his badge and he covers it up and pretends to be a cop and shakes down the club and gives it a little bit back to those guys and gets some information or

Dan: Yeah, it's

Reegs: more like what you get, because we haven't really seen that quick fire shit from

Sidey: This is his first real go at it, isn't it? He does a big long thing and he puts the guy's cowboy hat on. Yeah. And gives them a load of shit. He starts smashing up the bar because they know that he knows some sort of, you know,

Yeah.

And he knows a girlfriend's.

Reegs: address, before

Sidey: address before he starts smashing. I'm going to come back here and if you're not, you know,

Dan: I'm going to come back here and if you're not He's also very horny. He's cracking

though

Reegs: also

Sidey: super wisecracking though in this.

No. He's more

Dan: see, yeah, you can see the beginnings of

longer

Sidey: would have been straight out of. His stand up stuff, so you're kind of expecting more. Well, I

Dan: He's got it in the

Sidey: bit bit more For me, but it's not really that's not really this

Reegs: No, it wasn't. There's also a bit of a subplot which starts now where he keeps talking about how horny he is. He says, where dick gets hard if the wind blows, which is quite a good one so they go, they end up at the girlfriends that we were talking about and it turns out to be Natasha Yar, wasn't it?

From Star Trek.

Sidey: Yeah

Reegs: Yeah. Which was Yeah.

Dan: Yeah, and

we start to also learn that Reggie's motive for getting out wasn't actually just to help. It's because he knows Gantz. Has ditched some money somewhere or Luther knows where it is and it's his money.

Reegs: Well this is what Reggie admits, because

Dan: so he comes out.

Reegs: Nolte really ramps up the racism, it's a very unpleasant scene and he's really, like, to draw it out of him, because he knows that Murphy is withholding some information from him, so ostensibly, he riles him up racially to get this information out of him, and he does in the end, he gets this thing.

They have this big fight, basically. They

Dan: definitely one of those movies where they need that

Sidey: Opinions at the time,

Dan: know?

Sidey: Attitudes

Reegs: they have this big fight. Murphy batters him mostly makes him look

Dan: He's a good fight actually. Yeah. It's a pretty good fight between the two. Well, they're

Sidey: two. Couple of, couple of police cops.

Dan: Yeah. They

Reegs: Shut

Sidey: up and, and they're like, what are you two doing?

It's like, it's fine, we're just, you know, having a discussion. Yeah.

Reegs: And it's then in the aftermath of that, that we get the information that ties all this shit together. So Reggie had a car that had a load of money from

the armed robbery that he'd done, and it was stashed in a garage somewhere, and Gantz knows about it, and as does Luther.

And as it's going to be revealed, actually in a really cool, really tense sequence where they follow him down to a subway, it's going to be revealed that Luther's in this because his girlfriend has been abducted by Gantz and he's now going to exchange money. I know I've skipped ahead a little bit

Sidey: no, that's fine.

Dan: one of the things that made me laugh is the money's in the car. Yeah. Yeah. And the car's in a

garage

Reegs: garage

Dan: and

they're going to go in. Obviously go and get it. The car sort of starts first time and they make a point of saying, well, we charge the battery every month.

Like, you know, we make sure it's done. And then you see how filthy the car is and you think you charge the battery and you don't rub a cloth over it because it's, it changes color with the dust, doesn't it? It's just absolutely.

Reegs: in ship. It's

Dan: caked

in, in dust. You think anybody's gonna go and do the battery isn't it?

Every month isn't gonna give that a wipe. Yeah.

Reegs: It's a good point, Dan.

Dan: Dan. Thanks. It bugged me for the rest of the movie to be

Reegs: honest.

Dan: seen the car was in. I was just thinking I get it.

Reegs: Well, you do get to see that car cleaned up a little bit later, which is nice. So again, in that tense bit underground where all that bit of information is revealed, it is pretty good, that bit, even though this movie kind of drags for 96 minutes. Get that bit and his gun is used again to kill another cop, right?

And so then the last bit of the movie is set up with loads of cops have been killed. Murphy and Nolte are back at the station in disgrace. And oh, actually Murphy goes off after Luther, doesn't he? Yeah. And then he calls him. Yeah. Yeah. And he thinks he's been abandoned. Jack's back at the station.

He thinks he's been abandoned and Eddie Murphy calls him in and says

Dan: says And he just didn't get the message. Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: from the guy who's going to turn out to be the bad guy in another 48

Dan: Yeah. Yeah, that's right. So it all comes all around. I mean, we know what's going to happen. This is a cop buddy movie.

And they, they're going to put the bad guys away and be trying to be funny and silly about it. But it was. You know, one of the earlier ones that I'd seen, and I think they got better and better after this, actually, 48 hours, another 48 hours,

Reegs: Well, that was a bit of a bigger movie more spectacle than this because this was loads of cat and mouse Yeah, where are we?

We must be somewhere near the end, aren't we? Well,

Dan: he, he's, he's ready to take him back to prison, and there's the money as well. And they come to an agreement where he's going to keep the Which is totally against any

Reegs: Oh, no, I know how it is. When they go to, right, basically Murphy just wants to get laid.

So they end up at a club and he's

Sidey: Candy.

Reegs: well, at first of all, he starts by just telling people his name and they just instantly gub him, don't know, including he makes a pass at the

Dan: Well, yeah, so

Reegs: well, yeah, so he does proposition this girl and eventually Jack after he apologizes for the racism.

And all that shit, and he, and he says, and he says, I, that makes it, I understand it, but it's still not good, and it's still not enough. He

Dan: on the criminal. That was the, the message, wasn't it? He says, you've got to keep you down. I was just doing it to keep you down. Because

Reegs: He says he basically rightfully says back to him though, that doesn't explain everything now about the racism and he kind of just takes that one on the chin.

But Reggie never has to apologize for constantly using homophobic slurs. So we'll wait for that to happen anyway. He's just on the way out to get this shag that he's been wanting the whole time. And this is when he sees Luther getting onto the bus. The final part of the movie, Luther ends up on this stolen bus with Gantz.

Gantz guns down. Luther takes the money. And then the bus is careers off with the, the two police cops in chase and they crash into something and the bus gets away.

Dan: It's madness at the end, but they come out with the money and how it ends is he's going back to prison. Yeah, but Nolte also is eyeing up this car cause it's a smooth ride and he just says I'll look after the calf here

Reegs: He wants to talk to his missus as well because there's been a subplot.

His missus is Anna O'Toole from Linda. He

Dan: Keeps letting her down, doesn't he,

Sidey: Yeah, he's not nice to

Dan: no, he, she's, she's really nice and

Sidey: There's attitudes to, you know,

Dan: Oh, I mean, he's just, he stinks, doesn't he, Nolte, really? But it's a tough world, I mean, he's getting shot at, he could be killed at any day. He hasn't got time for For a lot of

things

Sidey: not being racist. . Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Reegs: So yeah, they have to close off that little bit of the story with a phone call, and then they just, they go for like a drink, don't they, in the car, and he,

Dan: Yeah,

as the bus goes he drives off in the car presumably gonna keep it until he gets out I mean or we see another 48 hours. I can't remember the how that picks that up

Reegs: Eventually they, I think he just says, Wouldn't you go back to your girlfriend's place or whatever?

And they just go, Oh, we'll give it one last try. Well, he said, first of all, he says, Eddie Murphy says, Oh, you know, don't bother. It's a cold lead or whatever. And then he's like, all right, I'll just take you back to prison then. And then he's like, well, no, let's try it. And off they go this final lead. It does turn out that Billy and Gans are there.

There's a big shoot out in an alley. It fucking takes forever to happen. Murphy gets abducted. Hostage taken hostage and this is really weird this bit because Nolte just kind of comes out and just guns him down almost. I mean he

Sidey: doesn't mind if he hits Reggie,

Reegs: It's kind of how it's played, isn't it? But he doesn't kill reggie and then gans charges him and he shoots him about six times

Sidey: Yeah, he empties the whole clip into him, doesn't he? Yeah.

Reegs: gone and then there's still one more bit of Patronizing racist bullshit at the end before they talk about the possibility of a sequel.

Sidey: Then we get three hours of procedural paperwork being filled out, which is the highlight.

Reegs: Highlight.

Dan: I mean obviously side and I loved it but what did you think weeks

Reegs: It was okay. Yeah, yeah. No, I, well, is it okay? I dunno.

Dan: Didn't hold up,

Reegs: It was hard. It was hard to

Dan: you see this first time round?

Reegs: did and I didn't really like it the first time around.

And I thought it was hard to get excited about in any, like the action isn't that great. Obviously the racial shit is aged horribly, but even if you try and somehow put that in a part, it's not that funny. It's not great, but it's a signs of what Eddie Murphy will do. But. The sequel, I think, I remember was quite a lot better because they went bigger on everything.

There's spectacle and action and shit. But this was fairly boring.

Sidey: Well, Eddie Murphy nearly got the boot because it wasn't working. Yeah. And he didn't know that at the time. He didn't know that until it finished. Maybe they could have given him some guidance, you know, because he's not, he's not particularly funny in it.

I, I thought it was, yeah, like, it was only okay. There's loads of other, sort of,

buddy cop things that are better than this,

Reegs: ones. It's like the Harry movies that are

Sidey: like, police stuff, like, there's Dirty Harry movies that are way better than this, you know, I

Reegs: did really like the score. I don't think that, like, it wasn't, there wasn't a lot very, you know, there was a few bits of split diopter and stuff to show that they were equal and shit in the cinematography, but there wasn't a lot going on filmatism wise.

And the story is kind of simple and it seemed to take forever. All that cat and mouse stuff. It was, it

Dan: It was a long 93 actually, wasn't it? It was. But, I still enjoyed it for Memory Lane. Like a lot of these films, when you watch them back Yeah, certainly the language and the behaviours of the time, So

Sidey: mean, if you listen to Eddie Murphy's stand up, it's really bad.

Dan: Yeah, no you couldn't

Sidey: Like the attitudes and the stuff that he's joking about. It's just off limits now.

He just would never do it. It's not cool.

Dan: And this was that

Sidey: Yeah, and so he's come out of this and and you can see It's still acceptable at this time in this movie because it's just right

Reegs: It's already probably happened to us. There's a few things I've talked about, maybe things that I've taken a position on sometimes, and I think later, fucking hell, I wish I hadn't said that. Or like, do I actually really think that, or I just, you know,

Dan: it's all, yeah. Yeah. It's well, wrong Is Wrong, right Is Right. And a lot of what he was saying there is just.

Stuff that you know is wrong. You wouldn't say these days.

Reegs: I've got one in the intro tonight that I'm not a bit I'm a bit

Sidey: bit, I'm a bit not

Dan: Well,

so it's a strong recommend to to to

Reegs: recommend. Yeah, strong

Dan: minutes

Sidey: Do you want some financial stats about it? Yeah,

Dan: let's

Reegs: have been enough to get a sequel, wouldn't it? You're

exactly

Sidey: right. Because what we have is a 12 million budget for this and it made 79 million dollars. Just a lot of money.

Dan: Yeah, well Beverly

Hills Cop wasn't far behind this,

I

Sidey: two years, two years down the line, I think the first Beverly Hills cop movie which obviously is the quintessential Eddie Murphy, Eddie Murphy

Reegs: And Eddie

Sidey: Yeah, movie was good as well. This just doesn't, I don't know.

Reegs: The race shit is horrible,

Sidey: The ratio is horrible, but you get Eddie Murphy who's only known for one thing, which is stand up at this point.

And you put him in this and don't give them any very funny lines. It's like

Dan: Nolte is the hard kind of, he's a good actor, Nick Nolte,

Sidey: It's just an actor, but there's nothing to like about him in this film. They present him as a misogynistic racist, so why are you supposed to root for him?

Dan: don't know whether people did at the time, I don't know whether that was a thing that he, that was cool.

Reegs: The only thing I enjoyed was the like, representation of the police as an incompetent, brutal, shambolic bureaucratic organisation of crazy people. Which was, you know, still

Sidey: On point.

Reegs: innit? Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah, it's remains a strong recommend.