Kneecap & Yakari

Knee Cap

Reegs: Welcome to Bad Dads Film Review, the podcast that is to movie reviews as President Musk's tweets are to Nigel Farage's political career. We'll be starting at the beginning! For a change which this week means a top five. We'll count down movies greatest vices and vice presidents because nothing says pure political power like the phrase second in command.

After that, we'll be taking a look at the funny side of Irish republicanism in the probably not completely accurate biopic of the rise of Belfast hip hop sensation Kneecap in the appropriately enough named Kneecap. And we'll finish off this week's show with just a smidge of cultural appropriation and red face as we discuss the mildly offensive Yukari, an animated TV series that'll make you want to shoot yourself in the legs just to avoid watching it.

All that's left to do is introduce the dad, starting with Dan. He's so old that he remembers when the Big Bang was just a minor inconvenience. And when Google was a genuinely efficient search engine without having to wade through a sea of ads in irrelevant sponsored links first. Next up, we've got Romanian heartthrob Chris, the man who could grace the cover of GQ but might need some help reading the articles.

And very nearly in last place, it's the man who's always balls deep in yarn, creating the most exquisite sweaters. It's Sidey, and then there's me,

Veegs.

Cris: Hello.

Dan: G'day mate. Alright.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: With nothing really to say. It's gonna be a quick

Reegs: It's gonna be

Dan: pod. But we've got stuff to say.

Yeah. What are

Reegs: are you gonna say then?

Dan: I don't know. I'm waiting for you to say

Cris: What,

what is there to say?

Sidey: Nothing.

Dan: Words.

Cris: no, did you watch anything that we should know about this week?

Dan: Not that you should know.

no.

No,

Cris: the listeners, maybe the listeners might find it more

Reegs: shouldn't know? no.

Dan: No, I couldn't possibly. I watched Sherlock last night with my daughter. The first episode of Benedict Cumberbatch.

And I wanted to put her onto the oldie timey version, the Jeremy Brett version, which I just love. And it's, it is the definitive Sherlock for me. But I knew she wouldn't go for that. She was just going, Oh, Tommy, the eyes would roll.

Sidey: roll. I like those ones. The the Charlotte ones, the BBC ones, they're good as

Dan: absolutely amazing. If you haven't seen them, then just like immediately go and

Reegs: that was the one we watched for pod. Was that a Jeremy Brett one? Yeah, the guy with the red hair.

Dan: Yes, the League of

Cris: of Red.

Dan: Gentlemen. Yeah. So this was a

So, it

was a study in pink and it's taken from obviously that that story. But this one he's there's suicides going around London and they can't work out why. Right

at the end, he gives a name. That's right. Yeah, the taxi driver.

And it was we'd run up a little bit later than we'd planned. Because first we'd actually started watching. Oh, and in deck limitless or something.

Oh my God. Like now it's a thing. Now I've got to watch it. Like they ask questions and they got the ladder. Just one of those. Oh my God. Unbelievably, yeah.

Reegs: Oh, we like a little TV game show

Dan: I don't mind some, but they're just questions that are impossible. You'll never know the answer to the questions. Like, how long is the the snowman film? And you've got to guess which to the exact minute, but if you go one minute over, you're

Sidey: oh like spread bay

Dan: And it's like, yeah, so teacher, but you will never know the answers to those questions.

It's 26 wondering. But so we did that and then we watched Are you going to

Sidey: later, so

Dan: the rest with her? The next one is Irene

Sidey: maybe.

Dan: gets naked everything. I'm make a story out of that. to enjoy Sherlock and I said you should read the books they are

Cris: are fantastic

Yes, yeah, yeah, I agree with the

Dan: Did you see anything? Or just been reading?

Cris: I'm listening to a book at the moment

Dan: they don't say much, do they? When you just What, the book? The audio book, I take it you mean, though. Yes. Yeah, not just a flat book.

Cris: No, no, yeah, I just, no, I don't listen to an audiobook, I stare at a

Dan: What are you saying? Yeah, yeah.

Cris: stare at it until it speaks to

Sidey: Yeah, that was, that was a what's his face?

Dan: Mike Tyson?

Sidey: Walker Texas Rangers dude.

Yeah, he just stares at the books and nothing works. Yeah, that's how he reads.

Cris: Okay, like that. No I'm kind of, I don't know how you say it, reading this book, this audio book through my head.

Dan: How you say

Cris: okay. And I've watched the only thing I watched, I watched the SAS Rogue Heroes. Series. I don't know if there's a film as well. I've watched two episodes.

Reegs: Is that one of those, like, house cleaning LP

Dan: No, it's the, the hard men of

Reegs: Oh, the real

Dan: yeah.

Cris: it's how it was

Dan: how, how they started. I've watched that. Yeah, it's good.

Cris: on B, B, C, on the,

series.

On the eye player That's what I liked because it was like a six episodes or something and then that's it.

Dan: I've become more and more like you over the last few months. To be honest, Chris. I start looking at things and if it's got more than two seasons. I'm not even gonna give it time of day. I'm not, because I'm not gonna be there for season 8. I'm just not gonna commit to that much. Which is why I think the other thing that's been put on our house a lot.

Gilmore Girls. And it's got like a billion

Sidey: Are they 20 episode seasons as

Dan: at least 20. There could be 30 in there.

Sidey: a lot.

Dan: Oh, painful.

Sidey: We watched Jaws The Revenge, Jaws colon The Revenge on New Year's

Dan: love a

Sidey: Spectacular. Yeah, it's really good. It's really good. I think it's as good as the

Reegs: As good as the original, yeah.

Sidey: And I watched the Gone Fishing Christmas Special, which was actually quite disappointingly bland. Well they did catch a very big fish.

And I have also been watching lots of the which is five seasons down but they're 10 episodes I think first one's actually only eight episodes

Cris: 10 seasons?

Sidey: No episodes per season

Cris: And how many seasons?

five?

Sidey: It's

Dan: We're out, Chris.

Sidey: No, you need to be in

Dan: I don't know. I have watched the first episode twice of The Wire to try and get into

Sidey: So good, I

Dan: think I've got to give it a little bit more. Same like The Sopranos.

Sidey: You just like you've hardly met any of the characters.

Dan: I know, I know.

Sidey: It's been

Dan: it's been so long since I watched the first episode, I'd have

Reegs: You'd have

Dan: that for a third

Reegs: Third time, yeah. I

Dan: I

already that.

One day, one day when I've

Sidey: I've got

Reegs: Uh, nothing so

much for me, but my eldest has discovered Do you remember the Paris episode that

Dan: reviewed

Reegs: we reviewed that kid thing.

Find me in Paris. I think it was called about time traveling

Dan: called, about

Reegs: that and it's just like absolutely streamlined and I think we gave it a pretty

Dan: streamlined it and she thinks it's amazing.

I think we gave it a pretty good rating. But that also, I was thinking

Reegs: But that also I was thinking of it because that has 26 episodes in a season how quickly I was Yeah, yeah

Dan: yeah, I

came down this morning and Gilmore Girls was on it was like paused. But it triggered me. I was like instantly like Nelly, do you have to be what you're just watching?

I was watching tv my breakfast. I was like You shouldn't be watching too much

Sidey: Top five to talk about, vices and vice presidents

Dan: what were we vice presidents because we watched

Sidey: watched Vice, remember when we talked about that two days ago?

Dan: that's right

Reegs: then the kneecap boys do enjoy a vice, so

Sidey: They do, yeah, so we're vicing it up real nice.

Dan: mixing

up working very hard designing wedding

Sidey: Kay's been working very hard designing the wedding invites. And, and there's like, you know, now you have to have a fucking webpage and all this shit.

And so she was trying to get photos of us that matched the the colour scheme, Scott, and it's pink. I was like, please just put

Dan: I was

Reegs: put it in

Sidey: I think, I think, I think I can convince her.

Reegs: them.

Dan: her. That would be brilliant. That

Reegs: be brilliant. That would be brilliant. I'm in.

Sidey: that would be brilliant.

Cris: Vices

well, obviously we, we are going to review kneecap and they do have quite a few vices. There are also, there's a movie that I really, really enjoyed.

And I do enjoy this theme as a party theme is the movie, the movie studio 54. And I do like the theme for a party as studio 54 in terms of the music. Hopefully not necessarily a donkey getting drunk inside the party.

Zebra, which was actually apparently an actual thing. There's pictures of people with a zebra in the VIP section at Studio 54 in New York.

I wouldn't recommend that, but the movie Studio 54 is with Ryan Phillippe, Salma Hayek and some other actors that are fairly popular.

And I think it's from the 90s, I can't remember, late 90s, early 2000s. And there's a lot of vices, drug related vices in there. And that is probably the one that I would start with.

I'm not going to go into what they're doing. If anyone has heard of Studio 54. they would probably imagine what was going on there. There is apparently a famous well, there's more than a famous night, but there is a famous night where in the VIP section Rick James just kept did

Sidey: Super freak.

Cris: Yeah, he was a super freak and it did too much Colombian white powder. And he kept saying to everyone that he's rich bitch. And Eddie Murphy slapped him until his, he started bleeding. So that's and there's so many celebrities all the where the celebrities, politicians and the underworld of New York came together and had a drink and a laugh together, apparently.

that is

Dan: the vice is right

I I had a a film that I wanted to Put on yeah, well, no not so much.

It's called the last call it's around dylan thomas the great welsh poet and he had the vice of

drinking like like like the booze and this Goes around his last drinking session in which he famously, I think he got to like 28

Sidey: something like that. And

Dan: I think I've had 28 of these and been killed over in and died.

Reese Ifans, Ifans plays him and John Malkovich is in it as well. Briefly. It was black and white. blue and white. It was just CPR kind of tone. But I really enjoyed this film. It's the kind of thing Pete would hate, so I'd love to get it on there.

Sidey: then he likes that weird, you know, haircut

Cris: Yeah. The Mexicans.

Sidey: So you just never know.

You

Dan: never know, but this was a long way from the weird haircut thing. It was more on the on the Road of Patterson, dare I say it. But I really enjoyed it. It was very kind of slow going and atmospheric and and

Reegs: No, you don't have to

Dan: filled in. Yeah, filled in with the the poetry and things but also the absolute booze hound that he was.

And It did him in the end as quite a young man, but he undoubtedly

Sidey: Very, very drunk.

Dan: Very very

Reegs: Well, the, the body swap was Comedy thing. Do you remember that? It started with Freaky Friday in like the the

Sidey: Jamie Lee Curtis, oh, there's a Jamie Lee Curtis and,

Reegs: No, it's Jodie Foster, is it? No

Sidey: Yeah, there's, there's another one. I was thinking of Lindsay Lohan and Jamie Lee Curtis did one version of it, didn't they?

Reegs: Lee Curtis did one version

Dan: don't fuck with the Zoltan. That was

Reegs: they? Don't fuck with

Sidey: I do remember that,

Reegs: Zoltan. Yeah, I remember

Dan: Fred Savage.

Sidey: What a cast.

Reegs: And yeah, and they, they swapped bodies by touching a sort of ancient mystical

skull.

and, and and curiously judge Reinhold was better at being the kid kind of thing.

And Fred Savage was better at being the asshole dad basically. So if you think like seeing Fred Savage holding a martini funny, that's going to be your jam this film. And it had those like typical 80s themes of like trying to divorced dad and

Sidey: that. Don't do

Dan: Yeah, I do. I think I rented it on video tape.

Sidey: I was reminiscing about renting videotapes because I had rented Jaws 4,

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: I was trying to explain what Blockbusters

Sidey: But that, that was, that was just going to the local news agent. You remember they used to just have a section of videos you could get. I had

Reegs: And for,

Sidey: had Superman 4. Watched, watched, you know, just watched them relentlessly.

You had them for like two days and you just go

Dan: Yeah, it's gotta go back tomorrow. So you're all watching

Reegs: it again, six times in a, in a weekend.

Sidey: I've got a vice president for you. It's more of like a galactic vice president. It's an animated one from the Powerpuff Girls. Vice President Evil

Reegs: Okay.

Sidey: Is a parody villain. You know, just Powerpuff Girls. Style super like energetic everything in your face. I don't think we've ever Reviewed them have we or any of those because there's a whole sort of stable of that style of animation that was on cartoon now because I don't think we've touched any of that dexter's lab

Dan: We've only done like

Reegs: episodes. That was a great one. That

Dan: I reckon there's

Sidey: checking now,

Dan: Yeah, there's a, there's a So there must be a hundred unrecorded episodes

Cris: Friend, I still, sometimes if I Really feel frisky.

I'll just put the music on and just

Dan: was it sea shanty stuff, is it?

Cris: Yeah, yeah, I find it quite funny

Dan: Yeah

Reegs: good.

Cris: They they are quite good. I feel a bit Sorry that I didn't really realize when I was at Glastonbury last year that they were there I would have gone and seen them

Sidey: What's wrong

Reegs: wrong

Cris: What's wrong with texas I

Reegs: Texas?

No,

Cris: they're good. You're you're awful

Sidey: Okay, I've got

Cris: Okay.

I've got a vice president. I've got a vice president. I've got two actually which funnily enough, both movies are have a main character of Bruce Willis.

The first one is the, the jackal that we did and the, the plot was he, he was meant to assassinate the vice president. Yeah. Yeah. So, so that's the vice president.

In a, in a plot of, I can't remember who the actor was or the actress. I'm pretty sure it was a lady.

Reegs: Yeah. She was really good

Cris: But that, that was the, he was the vice president. That, that was the vice president that he was going to assassinate after he killed Jack Black into a million pieces. And it was quite low. And the second one is also Bruce Willis and he is in a movie called red.

Reegs: Yeah, we we did it

Cris: retired and extremely dangerous. And he's Frank Moses, the most lethal man, lethal man in the world as a, like a retiree. And he, him and Morgan Freeman and someone and the woman, they go to this guy's house, Browning, who is played by, I can't remember his name, but he's also a famous actor.

And he, they do, they have to extract Robert Stanton. Which is McMahon, Vince McMahon's son, as an actor.

One

of them, I don't know, I can't remember his

Dan: McMahon, he used to play in Liverpool.

Cris: No, not that one. Different, American guy. Anyway, that guy is also a vice president. In red.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: So his name in the movie is Robert Stanton.

I can't remember his actual name as an actor is McMahon, McMahon.

Reegs: We watched it, it had Malkovich and all that in it.

Cris: yeah,

Sidey: in it.

Reegs: No, it was your nomination. Was it really? Yeah.

Dan: I don't remember seeing it either. So, clearly.

Cris: they made a second one as

Reegs: colour themed week. It

Sidey: Okay.

Reegs: green

Sidey: Obviously a lasting impression on me. Yeah,

Dan: that's what I was thinking. Another lasting impression is whenever you make a home improvement I'm linking into Tim Allen, of course, who was famous for home improvement, the TV series.

You may have no he is also a, Cocaine smuggler.

Sidey: I thought you were going to go down that he would have a vice in his um,

Reegs: differently though, isn't it?

I, I have got a couple of vices, but it is

Sidey: and he worked for a who's like a rep for a particular brand on that show. I thought you were going to go down that

Dan: Yeah, no, I'm going down the cocaine route. 'cause he, he didn't

Sidey: He, he had to give up all the,

Dan: a little bit. He trafficked it. He was caught in an airport with fucking thousands of it. He gave up all his, he spoke, he, he, he. told all the contacts. So we, you know, lucky he did.

Otherwise we'd never seen all that quality put out

Reegs: The Santa

Sidey: the Santa Colony you know,

Dan: life in prison or, or, or make home improvement. And he, he, he put us all through that.

Reegs: so. That was the ultimatum. You

Sidey: to love that show.

Reegs: What was the, there was a neighbor that you couldn't see,

Dan: Wilson, Wilson

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: You couldn't see

Sidey: see his eyes

Dan: and he always

Reegs: And then in the last episode they revealed him.

Sidey: Did they?

Reegs: made that

Sidey: Homer mowed him down. It's on the TV in The Simpsons and he gets mowed down. Yeah.

Dan: But there, yeah, that was a an actor with a vice.

Reegs: Yeah. Well, there is a Simpsons for every occasion and Al Gore when the Simpsons visit books, books and additional books Lisa buys a copy of Al Gore's book, Sane Planning Sensible Tomorrow. And there's like, as it's scanned at the register, it like all this high tech beepery goes off and then Vice President Gore sits in

Sidey: Gore Sings

Reegs: plays. Yes. I Yeah. And the has fallen cinematic

Sidey: I love that

Reegs: Yeah. That's got a great amount of vice president

So Olympus has fallen was the first one.

Sidey: Is there, there's a new one isn't there?

Has a Paris fallen or something?

Reegs: Well, I looked for that. I haven't seen it, but yeah, there's the three that I have seen Olympus has fallen. London has fallen and angel has fallen by the third one.

They realize they don't have to do any shit with the presidents and vice presidents. We can just follow Gerard Butler. He's really cool. But yeah, great amount of vice president stuff because Morgan Freeman is promoted from speaker to vice president. Then Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. President via that 25th amendment thing that they sometimes talk about In movies.

Yeah. And in one of them, the president, the vice president gets shot as well.

Sidey: No.

Reegs: yeah.

Full of vice presidents that has

Sidey: Um, I've got one. Anyone enjoy 24? Yeah. Love

Dan: Oh, with Kev kev kev kev

Sidey: Keith here. Um he he sometimes has a direct line to the VP and there's one called Noah Daniels and he's in it for a few series I think and then he's doing a It's giving a speech on stage and then he's going around doing the meet and greets and shaking hands and some dirty bastard and the crowd's got like a contact glove thing poison shakes hand and the poison is transferred and he dies and I like him because he's played by a guy called Powers Booth which

Reegs: yeah. Yeah, Yeah, and he's got a great voice

Sidey: he's a big fucking dude he's got a big booming like deep voice yeah he's

cool

Dan: booming

Reegs: If you call powers, yeah

Sidey: if you had a squeaky voice, it wouldn't work No, so yeah That's vp.

Noah daniels

Cris: vice a man with many vices In a movie called fear and loathing in las vegas You And it's a movie about a period in Hunter S.

Thompson's life who, according to himself and the people that knew him, was a man of many vices, not just one many of them being from, I don't know, you pick a list, a name of any drugs off

Reegs: well, he was a journalist and he would frequently write about his drug binges as and in his books as

Dan: Gonzo writing, wasn't it?

Cris: so, that it was the film has Johnny Depp and Benicio del Toro

Reegs: as Dr. Gonzo. Yeah,

Cris: Through their, their actions in going to write about some horse racing in Las Vegas.

Reegs: A motorcycle. Yeah. So,

Cris: Or a motorcycle race or something. And, and it's the, the, the booth of the car is just packed with, I'm not going to recite the thing, but it's, it's got everything, everything that

Reegs: it was the first time I'd ever heard of

Adro was when I read the book and then saw the movie and now like everybody's

Sidey: about it. Yeah, everyone's on it.

Fucking down at, it's like next to the prime.

Cris: that the one, is that the one that

is that the one that you were talking about that people take in Hollywood is like a Well, that's what the conspiracy nuts, the Pizzagate and all that Okay. So what does that mean?

Sidey: Can

Cris: so, so can I take that?

Dan: you can have it.

Reegs: can have it. Okay. Have you got some? What? No. There was a couple of films with Nikola Tesla in I think Prestige was

Do you think that?

Dan: I do think that. And he was also, I think Benedict Cumberbatch

played

some kind of film when it was that, that playoff between him and Edison who's gonna, you know, win Get the the right

Reegs: Who's gonna invent electricity. Get the right amount of

Dan: Exactly, you know exactly rigs.

And well his his voice was that Although he was an absolute genius. He was an absolute asshole as well in the fact that he He didn't very much like, women he detested women who, who wore jewels or, or dressed in a manner, manner he perceived as attention seeking, and he absolutely couldn't stand fat women and they were intolerable to him, and he would just send them away from his sight.

Reegs: Didn't he steal other people's inventions as well?

Cris: the argument is the other way around, They stole his, yeah. Who?

Reegs: But we've only ever heard of Edison.

Dan: Well, there's Simpsons for that as Well,

Cris: there's an argument that Elon Musk stole, and that's why it's called Tesla, because it's Nikola Tesla's work

the engine without combustion.

Sidey: Well, anything that Musk has done is preexisting. So there we go. Yeah, let's, let's move on.

Cris: Anyway, that, so.

Dan: Yeah, let's not give Musk any air time, but that was you know, a bit of an arsehole would be his vice, I guess. Is that a vice? I think anger and, and all those kind of issues,

Cris: arrogance, maybe?

Dan: is, is a negative vice. So I'm going to slide that one in.

Reegs: Are we allowed the head crushing type vice?

Are we, are we having

Sidey: Yes.

Reegs: So Nikki Santoro from casino they put a cheating guy's head in a vice, don't they? And they crank it. They take him out to the back and vice up real nice. And evil dead too. Ash puts the severed head

of

his girlfriend in a vise and then her body runs in wielding a chainsaw.

But I think most horrifically of all Head in Vise is Toy Story. And I think in the, is it the second one or the first one? When they go to Sid's. Is that the first one?

Cris: I've never seen it, so I don't know.

Reegs: know. They go to Sid, he's the psychopathic neighbour, I think that might be the second one. And he like, has all these like, dolls that he like, Freaks together, like pulls the arms off one and he's got head in he puts pterodactyl

Cris: sounds, yummy.

Dan: off. Well, I, I've got one that I'm going to enter in unless,

Sidey: Yeah same I think I'll just nominate now

Dan: not norms. What have you got for his side?

Sidey: I did have it right in front of me and I've moved edit,

Dan: Well, I'm gonna get the one in that you probably wanted to get in Boogie Nights.

Cris: Boogie Nights,

Dan: of course, Mark Wahlberg played Eddie Adams and Eddie? Yeah. Yeah. And you know,

there's a lot of sex in that. And it's sexy time. It's it's porn industry stuff and everyone's got their vices and Eddie's was

Sidey: just adult entertainment.

Dan: It's

Reegs: Thomas Anderson, isn't it? Yeah. And he did a movie called Inherent Vice as

Dan: well.

There you go. Yeah, that's

Cris: That's the one. Yeah,

that's

Dan: the one, yeah, that's the one with Hakeem. yeah. But obviously he was bringing his big dick energy into the, the film and, it, it's an absolute fucking stoker of a movie,

Sidey: And a stonker of a dick as well.

Dan: yeah,

Cris: On

that note, can I put mine on? A movie called Nymphomaniac Volume 1,

Addict, her name is Jo, played by

Sidey: Charlotte

Cris: Charlotte Gainsborough, and you've got some Sarsgaard, and all that jazz, and

Sidey: got real shagging, hasn't

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: penetration?

Cris: yes, it's like

Sidey: Lars von Trier?

Lars

Cris: yeah. Lars von Trier, yeah, so it's a lot of sex, and sexual addiction.

And I need to put a shout out to one of my mates who is a good mate of mine. My mate Bobby from back home, who he is also addicted to sex. And in his own words, he said that if I ever go to anywhere in Asia or anywhere along the South American continent, he has a list of brothels for any city in every country.

Reegs: Okay,

Cris: So I, I just thought I'll put it out there just to shout out to him

Dan: Barbie. Yeah. So there we go. Two for two. Sexy time. What? You go for it.

Sidey: I'm going to make it far more mundane and go for Vice President Katherine Bennett from Air Force One, which is Glenn Close. Because I don't think we've ever had a Glenn Close nomination.

Reegs: know about that, yeah, I'm

Sidey: So she's in now for sure.

Reegs: I was gonna go Forter and Lannister from Game of Thrones. He was sort of notorious as a drinker and whoremonger. I think he describes himself as the God of tits and wine.

Sidey: tits.

Dan: So

Cris: that in real life, or is that in real life, or in the movie, in Game of

Sidey: In

Reegs: It it is in the, yeah, it's, it is the character.

Cris: Ah, right.

Reegs: Ah, a dinklage, I dunno,

Sidey: be Bacchus as the god of

Reegs: ah, yeah.

Cris: Or

Dionysus, depending on which mythology we're looking at.

Dan: Yeah.

Three sexy times in a close one.

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah,

Nice. We need at least one more, but as many as we

Dan: Just send all your vice in.

Yeah,

Cris: yeah,

Sidey: Make them autobiographical.

Dan: Even better. Have you got one of those?

Reegs: No.

I've seen this, me and Kevin. Yeah.

Cris: Are we, hopefully we're not gonna, I mean, I don't care if we offend anyone, not by choice, d does anyone, I mean, I dunno, I didn't really look into the,

Sidey: well, let's just we watched kneecap, which is about, I mean, literally starts off and he says every fucking film you see about

Cris: Belfast,

Sidey: Belfast starts like this and it's loads of explosions and the troubles and stuff, but not this film. Yeah, and stuff. Yes, but not this film. We start

we?

That's right, That's right. Yeah. Which pretty much started off like that. But yeah, this one starts off very shortly like that, but then goes into,

it's a baptism

Dan: a baptism

Reegs: Yeah, in

Cris: the woods.

It's

Reegs: taking place outside in the woods.

It's Arlo, Michael Fassbender baptising his son Nisha who will be the MC Mowgli Bap.

Um.

Sidey: you're like you said at the start, have we got any connections?

My mum was pals with Michael Fassbender's

Cris: Really?

Sidey: Yeah. Alright. From, You know, back then. Wow. Back in the day. Yeah.

Reegs: And Nisha, this baby is having his baptism out in the woods and it's interrupted by a police helicopter

Cris: from Yeah.

Reegs: Well,

because Nisha's father Arlo was involved in the IRA and has, you know, they show him being complicit in several real life crimes.

Cris: Bombings,

yeah,

Dan: yeah

Reegs: I think that is bollocks. He's got

Sidey: not. They do,

Reegs: in

Dan: but they have him going on off a boat

Sidey: He can't be declared alive. They've had a funeral for whatever and you know, they're gonna have to arrange it. It's the 10 year anniversary, isn't it of his funeral?

So they're gonna have to have a memorial service for so that's all going on. So you have got the troubles and all of that stuff going on, but then the drive of the story is these lads.

Reegs: Yeah, and really it starts with as all good music stories do, with like a rave, everybody getting off their tits in the middle of nowhere.

Yes.

Cris: the woods somewhere.

Dan: Yeah,

Sidey: And

Reegs: And the Royal Ulster Constabulary coming in, known for being real lightweights in

Cris: And gentlemen.

Reegs: And gentlemen, yeah, and breaking up this

Sidey: I love this part.

Ketamine

Reegs: ketamine is mostly their drug of choice. So when one of them,

Sidey: of them is,

Reegs: one of them is, yeah, it doesn't help with the getaway. They sort of split up one runs off with the drugs. I think ends up trying to get on a bus where everybody's wearing the same

Sidey: bus where everybody's wearing

Cris: and they're all looking at

Reegs: all twins and they're all staring at him.

the fabric of the bus. Yeah. And they're all wearing the same. So he can't go on that. Whereas the other one is being mauled by a dog and he's going, Oh, this is

Cris: It's like the first time I've ever been bitten by a dog while I, while high on MDMA.

Sidey: So he's lifted, he's taken back to the cells and he will not. And we've seen some more straight laced people doing You know, Irish language stuff. They're more academic people. And so

Cris: Well, they're speaking Gaelic,

Sidey: yeah, so the one that is in the cell and he is refusing to speak

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: And they're fucking horrible, just swearing at him and

Dan: Well, they know he understands it, but they've kind of, they banned the language at this point.

I think they hadn't, they did.

Sidey: not recognised.

Reegs: it's not recognized. And there's two, you know, a couple who's at the center of promoting the use of Irish language, which is what is her name? movie last night, but Oh, Caitlin. So Caitlin, she takes a call late at night. She's a sort of yeah, an Irish language speaker living with her partner, JJ, who is also a school teacher and Irish language speaker, and he is sent off down to the police station to

Sidey: She is sort of like head of the sort of, I guess like

Dan: The

Sidey: lobbying group and cultural thing. So she's telephone, but she's had a drink.

So I can't go. I've had a drink, but you haven't changed it yet. And he's like, Oh, fuck off. It's been a fucking night. And he's like, listen, this is someone that needs us. You know, they're a political prisoner. We need to go and help them. You know, this is fucking hell. So he goes

Reegs: police station. I think on the way we see how the boys get their drugs, which is they go down to like a load of different doctors and stuff and talk about intergenerational trauma and like having problems sexually functioning

and the troubles and all this stuff.

So they just get loads of drugs sent to them, sent to them as

Dan: we go straight to the 500 milligrams? As

Reegs: well as having a local postman who or drug dealer, the biggest drug dealer in Belfast, who is actually a postman and brings

Sidey: them

he just drops into a squat and

Dan: year old guy who's just been dropping it off into the house next door,

Sidey: they just ordered it from the dark web and he just drops into a squat and they just hop, hop over the balcony and go grab it. Yeah.

Reegs: So Liam Mora is the, is the mc name refusing to speak English, really pissing off the,

Sidey: awful.

Reegs: Yeah, the detective and also the guy, he calls him Athenian

Cris: Straight away, just like that.

So

Sidey: it's

Reegs: packed off as an interpreter and he gets in there and he's shown this book which they think is evidence of some crime or something.

They

Cris: she's looking for Arlo. She's looking for, she's like, Oh, is there any connection to Arlo or Caloran or whatever? And he's like going through it. And then he sees the stat.

Reegs: page full of acid tabs of acid

Cris: you can see them both looking at each other and you can see Mohara looking and saying, Don't let her see that.

Sidey: jj, he says, you

can tell he's sort of not he's not necessarily on the police's side there. He's immediately He's not like straight away going to like go into bat for them He's just there to interpret and the and he's saying listen, I want i'm going to see what side the fence you're on

Reegs: side of the table are you sitting on? Yeah, that's what he

Sidey: and so he's like, oh jesus. Okay, and he sees that he's had some rough treatment and he

And he sort of puts it down when as soon as he sees the acid, he puts it down and is sort of like a bit wary, doesn't want to give him up straight away, needs to hear a little bit more.

I

Reegs: I think it's the lyrics as

Cris: as well.

Cause he's a music teacher. He

Sidey: Because he's a music

Reegs: he is a music teacher whose job it is to bring in the Irish language to life and there's I don't think we Gave the context of now.

How many did they say? 80, 000 speakers the

Cris: many did they say? 80, 000 speakers? Something

Reegs: 000 I think, 6, 000, yeah, speakers. So, not a big population. So, anyway, he does confiscate the book and he feeds him a load of lines that basically says, he says, Oh cause Liam says like a couple of words and he's like, Oh, he's saying that the burden of proof is on you.

As the,

Sidey: prove a negative. How can you, yeah. And he, but he just, he just steals the book and he just, he just sort of slyly puts in his pocket

Reegs: and,

Liam is released and back the wild and pretty quickly they get under the attention of the R. R. A. D. The Radical Republicans Against Drugs, who are interested in them having been picked up by the police and then not being

Dan: Not been

Reegs: Not been charged. Yeah.

Dan: and you, there's only a couple of things that happen if you haven't been charged. It's because You've, you've grasped somebody up for it or I don't know, I guess that you have nothing to say but they they just won't

but

Reegs: guys really do put the comedy into frightening Republican gangsters, don't they?

Because they have this like, weird reverence for Nisha because his father is Arlo this great cult figure. And also, you know, they, they are like these like. They're more or less trigger happy like goons ready to, to, but they're also going to sell drugs and all this sorts of stuff to, to make things happen.

Sidey: anyway. We've seen when, like you mentioned Riggs, when they're going around getting these dodgy prescriptions and he talks about. his sexual performance and how he's got this weird thing where he's about to come and he'll shout some

Reegs: Yeah, pro Republican slogans.

Sidey: so then after he's released, he talks about this other girl.

And he's been Georgia who's been seeing and having sex with and she's from she's a Protestant.

Reegs: She's an old, from Ulster, yeah, she's a

Sidey: he's he's catholic. So I think it's after in the cat with her when he's going home And they've got this kind of love hate thing where they just fuck and then they just hate each other afterwards So she gives him flicks in the bird after through the window and he's walking over He's got a green trax it on and he turns the corner and there's just this group of orange men In their full regalia about to go off and do some march and they're twirling their batons and then he's like, oh fucking hell I've gotta like

Reegs: he's gotta walk through them. Yeah.

Sidey: all and they've just kind of like mind their own business and he just gets towards the end as the kid twirling his bat on a red white and blue bat and then he fucking swipes it runs off and goes rangers are shy

Cris: And

Sidey: and he just

fucking hightails it and you just see in slow mo this whole group of people just chasing after him

Cris: after him.

Oh, and smack my bitch

Sidey: yeah that's great and then the guy the interpreter jj the music teacher sees it in his rearview mirror he's like oh for fuck's sake i've just got you out you know bailed you out

Dan: fucks sake, I could've got you out, you know, bailed you out.

He

Reegs: running He

Dan: And speeds him away. And then

Sidey: He just winds him in and he's like, fuck

Reegs: he's

Cris: off! I think he

Reegs: off

Sidey: throws it out, yeah.

Dan: and, and then it begins the

Sidey: He's got his book, he gives

Dan: him, yeah, it

Sidey: like Fucking hell, those words,

Dan: There's some tunes in there. yeah.

Cris: They also show a scene, sorry, where he throws the tabs in the bin.

Sidey: Yeah,

Reegs: yeah, yeah, yeah. He's throwing

Cris: see this, it's gonna come back later.

Sidey: yeah.

he's got a, he's got a lock up, hasn't he?

And he's obviously, he's a teacher. He's very straight laced. His missus is sort of well to do and all that. So he gets rid of that.

Reegs: But we also know they're both heavily involved in the promotion and of of Irish language, right? So he sees this as a mechanism to like reach young people. He can't believe people are speaking hip hop. And it turns out, as we'll see, he has a big connection to hip hop and stuff in his in his life. And he quickly proposes to Liam and

Sidey: him in a boozer.

Cris: Nisha, yeah.

Reegs: you know,

Dan: know, put these tracks together

Reegs: put these tracks together and he's like, Oh, I don't know.

And he's like, well, I don't see fucking Dr. Dre. Like, wait,

Sidey: like, well, I don't see fucking Dr. Dre. Because I looked at him

Reegs: This guy. Cause I looked at him. I was like, Oh, I don't know who he is, but I recognize his face. No, it's the real guy from

Dan: Well, this

Cris: They're all, they're all three of them. It's

Reegs: of them.

Sidey: Such

Reegs: such natural actors. It's great.

Sidey: and he's like, he looks kind of nerdy saying it's kind of an unusual pair, but like, it's great.

Cris: And he gives them the analogy of the dodo.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. And he had this

Reegs: Well, that actually came from his father,

Dan: Yeah, you have this flashback from when they were younger or this other part where they say, you know, every word spoken, it's Arlo sort of speaking to his son, every word of Irish spoken is like a bullet in, in fighting for the Republican cause of the Irish cause.

So he's been brought up like this, you know, the, the, the kids.

So they've been writing their words in, in Gaelic and and when they start putting them down with, with the

Sidey: well, he says, you know, I've got a, I've got a place, you know, we can just try something out.

So they go

Dan: got a studio. We've got a

Sidey: It is got a garage with,

Some decks and maybe a 303 or something. I don't know

Reegs: No, 303 comes out

Sidey: it's an 808 later on in the Roland in the school. Anyway, they put as soon as they start going, I was like this fucking brilliant tunes are absolutely banging.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: They start pulling out these tunes

Sidey: And they also start

Reegs: an insane amount of drugs.

Sidey: He goes into the bin and fishes out the acid. They're just drinking buckfast and fucking all the rest of it down their throat and he's Yeah. They're having an absolute

Dan: ball

of it. And,

Cris: And you can see him the next day at school when he's, there's like, These cartoonish effects on the screen where there's people's eyes are rolling

Dan: he's still high

Sidey: he meets they're waiting for him outside the school gates and he's like fuck what are you doing here? And they're like you told us to meet you here and he's like no You can't meet me here like fuck off and then he gets in the car with his missus And she's like, who are you talking to there?

And anyway, they're getting a bit of discussion about something He's like anyway, I gotta go and she's like what you're gonna do clean up the piss in the fucking And it just cuts to him asleep on a chair

Reegs: up the piss in the And it just cuts to him asleep on a chair

Dan: kind of looked in in the

Sidey: And it's just like, yeah, I got to do that.

Dan: open the

the, door and then just kind of pulled down the rollers again. Seeing him like

Reegs: I think

Sidey: It is actually him. It is actually him. Yeah.

Reegs: appears in a hallucination to them. It's amazing. Absolutely amazing. So they start to perform live, don't they?

They

Sidey: They can perform at the local boozer because he's selling weed

To the

Dan: old man drugs,

Cris: uncle,

Sidey: to help his arthritis or something. And so they play their first gig to about four alcoholics.

Reegs: there's absolutely nobody there.

Sidey: But the bar JJ,

Reegs: JJ DJ Vey as he's gonna be known. I

Sidey: think the bar guy films them.

Reegs: he doesn't wanna wear, he doesn't wanna be exposed because he's got

Sidey: but he just hides in a cupboard at that one.

Cris: one. Yeah, for the

Reegs: Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah. He hides in the cupboards.

Sidey: And he's wearing the balaclava to fuck Georgia.

Reegs: Yeah, that's right

Sidey: first crops up. And so the first gig he just hides in the broom cupboards and they're doing their MCing.

And the girl that's working the bar, she films him on her phone and sort of, that starts to get, you know, word gets out. So the next time they do the gig,

Reegs: Well, he's doing the J'S at school, isn't he? And there's kids

Cris: Yeah, listening to the yeah

Reegs: stuff at the

back of the

Dan: to the tracks.

Sidey: So they're going to do another show at this same boozer. But this time he's a bit nervous about the amount of people there.

And I think, and he can't be seen. So I say, he's like got the balaclava like, right, let's have a little bit of something to get us going. So they snort something and then they're just like fucking

spangled. It's pocket have you put that stuff that stuff

So they don't let a cat in there in a bad way.

Reegs: He's like, he's literally crawling onto the stage, like dragging his body along as he tries to start the tune off. I can't remember. Normally, I, you know, I'm real good with writing down the order of the songs and stuff, but I didn't have it in

Sidey: immediately thought about buying the soundtrack after

Dan: same.

It's

Cris: Ah, they were good,

Reegs: dance tunes

Cris: I don't, I don't, obviously I don't understand the lyrics. It's really well made with the way When the words are in Gaelic, they kind of translate it through some sort of subtitles

Sidey: of animate it on the

Dan: But they?

flow well, don't they? I'm a, I'm a hood and it is one of them.

Lowlife scum.

Reegs: 70 percent of the film, 80 percent of the film is, is in

Sidey: Yeah, yeah,

Dan: yeah. Yeah, and it's, it's subtitled

Sidey: show doesn't go so well because they're just completely out of it, but they do just get a

Reegs: No,

it does go well because they just toss a load of drugs out

Sidey: throw drugs out into the crowd and

Cris: Oh,

Sidey: But musically, it's not a great performance live, but people will still love it because they get a load of free

Dan: Well, that puts word around, doesn't

Sidey: But the radical Republicans against drugs are less than thrilled.

Dan: That's right. And they, they put the

Sidey: Also, they say, and then they, they turn up, they've had to organize this 10 year memorial service, anniversary memorial for, yeah, for Michael Fassbender's character. And they turn up at that and say, anyone caught selling drugs around this community is a legitimate target and they fire I think he's on,

Dan: yeah, he's on

Sidey: taking a pill or something like that.

Yeah. So they're up against it with that lot.

Reegs: Yeah, and it's kind of like in life of Brian, where it's like the people's front of Judea and the Judean People's front.

There's all these different paramilitary organizations and they're essentially just thugs, like, you know, not really tied to the feeling of, of what's going

Cris: Also, the only the only person that we haven't really spoken about and the only person that is probably more the most serious and just kind of straightforward person is the mom

who she just kind of sits at

Sidey: She's kind of acrophobic after

Reegs: she became a recluse after the death or not death of

Cris: Because that was the thing at the beginning where they say that Arlo one day said, Oh, you should watch that movie tonight. It's about cowboys and Indians, but I want you to watch it from the cow, from the Indian's point of view. And then he's like, and just like that, Nisha's dad just left and never came back.

And you're like, okay, so just, it's almost like, Oh, I'm going to go to the shop and get some milk. And then he just never comes back.

Dan: And, and left her with the kids and a load of questions to answer.

Sidey: Constant visits

Dan: no. Yeah, no, no support.

And and from his point of view, he's like taking it all on and he's. This Irish hero, but from her point of view, she's like, you've left me with a couple of kids and I've

Cris: and a million questions and

Reegs: And she's very depressed. I think early on

Dan: Well, she don't leave the house. Does she?

I'm

Reegs: saving all my sleep for the big sleep.

Dan: Yeah. She doesn't leave the house

Sidey: She, she like gives him a bollocking letter on the film and it's really well put the way she says it more better than we could articulate it. I think but they said the trouble now is that they've been, they get confronted by the, the the rat,

Dan: R. R. R. A.

Sidey: Told Right.

You are now gonna,

there's anti-drug things or bollocks.

Reegs: Well, they need money as well. Right? Semtex

Sidey: Cex, the price. Texas keeps going up. So you're gonna sell drugs for us. You're not doing any fucking music, any of that shit. You're just drug dealers. That's all. You are

Dan: that shit because That's all you are

Reegs: radical Republicans against

Dan: against drugs We're radical republicans first we're against drugs

Reegs: So it allows them to

Dan: so it allows them in their in their

Sidey: So their conflict, the conflict is. They want to perform they want to you know,

Reegs: well, Nisha, I think, records the conversation of them saying it, and then next up they go to a gig and he plays it.

Sidey: They have but it's their biggest gig isn't it they they it's like an almost

Dan: it's getting

Sidey: proper

Cris: Well, it's towards the end, but it's also before that there's, they they have a gig and the woman comes and says I want you to be on the radio.

Sidey: Yeah, she's given a chance, they said you got a chance to be like track of the week on

Cris: And they're all just there.

Sidey: Yeah,

Reegs: and she's actually got a, a radio for her head, hasn't she?

Cris: Yeah, but that's not saying they're all there. Just. staring at her high on cat. You reused the wrong pocket again, didn't you?

Sidey: But they go, you know, so they got that. But when they go to the garage slash studio, it's been burnt down. And he says, well, you, at least you had everything like backed up to the clouds.

And Provo is like, Oh, fuck.

Cris: No?

Dan: they have to break into the school, redo the tracks again at which point DJ Provo's goes, look, I'm, I'm out of this now. I've, I've got the tracks

Reegs: Well, because it has become big, it has become big. They've become famous for like drug use and their you know, their lyrics.

But also because because of their strong Irish republicanism. And he actually wrote Brits out on his ass at

Sidey: That's the gig. The the big concert.

Cris: And in the same weekend, Prince William was in Ireland.

Reegs: So it caused, you know, a lot of people to,

Dan: National attention and and they won't play the song which fires up mum to actually get out

Sidey: They're crowded around the wireless, aren't they? Waiting for it.

And it's some Biff fucking like Ed Sheeran like

Dan: And they think oh they you know, they're just crestfallen and and so, you know a woman on a mission

Sidey: she gets, she gets like doled off and what I need to see her walking down the street again. Oh, fuck.

Cris: how

Dan: Really uncomfortable. But then she goes and stirs it up and goes

Sidey: tells a few people and they tell a few people and they tell

Dan: That's it, into the hairdressers and Oh, what? Is that right? Okay, fuck it. And the story just gets worse and bigger, like, and they promised him this and they promised him that. So, eventually,

Sidey: it because it's just people phoning up going and, and you, how dare you? And then it's just like, it gets to the old, the old lady and she's like, don't make me fucking come down there.

Dan: Yeah. So,

Sidey: But then, yeah, it does go to the big concert that they've got.

And it's going really well and they're really fucked up and just a great gig and like you say he does like drop his trousers and he's got Brits out. And he clocks the guys in the

Dan: the crowd, the RRAD,

Sidey: and he just looks at DJs like go for it.

He just presses a button and it's the sample of them saying you're going to fucking sell drugs for the R Rads. You know, and the guy's like, is that? Is that the concept where Fassbender turns

Reegs: Is that the concert where Fassbender turns up? Because he's been a peripheral figure throughout the movie. Because Nisha knows he's alive. He goes to see him

Cris: Don't,

Sidey: It's after the mom.

Cris: It's after the mom tells him that, you've, you come to this house, you left me by myself and all that. That kid is trying to do something without a gun. So, he goes to see him in his concert and then he's

Sidey: think he realizes that it's time to stop hiding, you know?

Dan: Well,

Reegs: Well, he's realising that his son is doing more with words than he could with bullets, which is basically, you know, what he

Dan: But we as viewers, yeah, we as viewers only find that out as he's confronted his son is confronted, and they all try and run off, don't they? Diva Dei

Sidey: then they do,

Dan: the

Reegs: down the police. He goes for the

Sidey: pointless self sacrifice. That's amazing! Don't worry, lads, I've got

Dan: I've got this, he just

Reegs: this. Just came

Sidey: like And then

Dan: just takes one for the team,

Reegs: more horrendous police brutality.

Sidey: Yeah, but then there's some, like, more horrendous police protection. Because what happens is, the lady, From the IUC or wherever she's,

Dan: the oldster, I can't

Sidey: can't remember what her name is. She's fucking awful. Ellis. And it turns out, in a hilarious moment, she walks, cause she said, Georgia said, I live with my

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: and then,

Reegs: they're very pro unionist family that

Sidey: Here's someone turn up and and just the door opens to the bedroom while he's banging Georgia and then it's Alice there. So, she's get she points the gun at him. You know, he has to walk down the stairs and she's just waiting Oh no. then, you know, I was sort of thinking, okay, so why is she living with her auntie?

Like, what's happened to her folks if they've been,

Dan: know,

No,

Sidey: know. Fill in some blanks maybe. Is that why? Okay. The auntie's so fucking like anti everything. Don't know. Anyway, when he's like captured after the gig she fucking like takes the stick and just fucking beats the shit out of him in the cell.

It's

Cris: Luckily he's high on drugs, so he just

Sidey: Well, he has a moment of clarity.

Reegs: Georgia, doesn't he?

Sidey: Because I, oh fuck, I love her. Because they've fallen out after the gig.

Reegs: So

yeah, he fantasize about fantasizes, about being beaten

Cris: Yeah. And Nesha gets put in the booth of the car Yeah. By

Reegs: the r the rrAD.

Cris: and taken to dark alley and.

Dan: which is where his dad said that he's gonna end up. Yeah. You know? And sure enough he's there and but then Arlo walks down this dark alley and goes, look, if anybody.

He's gonna

point a gun and take blood.

Sidey: I think

Dan: It'll be by his own blood.

And they, they just can't believe this hero is come

Sidey: back. They hug

Dan: they hug him and they're just like that, but give him the gun, which he then turns on them. Calls him a bunch of fucking amateurs for being one,

Sidey: one. He shoots

Reegs: shoots them all first. Yeah. And then he's like, you

Dan: one gun to a fucking kneecap in

Sidey: bring one gun to a kneecap, because

Reegs: You bring one gun to an eco because he says in case it jammed and it did actually jam at his Funeral as well.

Remember when they pass him the gun he takes the did jam

So yeah, and

Sidey: I believe this is the point

Reegs: And I believe this is the point where he says to him every word of Irish spoken is a bullet Irish freedom, because this is the bit where he's realized he's better to give himself up and let his son do his

thing. Not this this

So he gives himself up and Detective Ellis is relieved to see him in.

Cris: Yeah,

Liam comes down on the stairs and he looks in and he's like, Fuck, that's his, that's his guy's dad. What is, what's going on here?

Dan: what's going on? their end with

Reegs: as we end with you know, the story sort of moving on, because Prove has had to quit his teaching job, slash been fired,

Sidey: He was fired. Yeah.

Reegs: resolution with Caitlyn, his girlfriend.

They're trying to achieve the same things, but in different ways, and they have a sort of gentle parting

Sidey: Yeah, she kind of almost lets him go. She says, Well, I'm breaking up with you. You're happy

Reegs: Yeah. But

Sidey: But I need to do my own thing. I can't really do while you're doing that.

Reegs: Yeah, and she will be shown in the montage at the end of the movie to be moving into the Irish

Sidey: moving into the Irish Parliament.

Reegs: What's it called? I nearly had the name for it. Bollocks. it's not that. no. DJ they're

Sidey: charges against

Dan: No, I won't contest that. You

Sidey: He just sort of smirks, and the guy next to the woman saying

Reegs: He starts laughing, doesn't he?

Sidey: on

Dan: Brits out on your ass, like, and they all kind of smirk into themselves and he goes, yeah, I did that. I made that one as well. And so the writings that you were, you know, you were drugged up in class. Yeah, I did that

as well.

So

Reegs: Important thematic one which is where a woman comes up to the band because the band are continuing their success And she tries to speak to them in Gaelic, but she started to learn the language

Cris: Yeah, yeah, it's like, oh, you speak Gaelic? Well, I'm learning because of you, and they're all kind of looking like, oh, okay, well done.

Dan: is the big fucking

Cris: then they, they do

Reegs: with a bit of text. The most shocking bit of all of it says that, I wanted to look this up afterwards to understand it, it says an indigenous language dies every 40 days.

days.

Sidey: I was thinking they can't,

Reegs: That's

Cris: No, That's true

because there's so many tribes and so many in that people don't really speak it anymore.

Dan: Or by crime of it, eh?

Reegs: doing it. Well, yes, exactly. Yes, I did think about that.

Dan: Jersey French.

Cris: Yeah, the Gerriers.

Sidey: daughter is learning that.

in the Geria club at school.

Reegs: Jerry

Cris: that's what I mean, how many people, even from here, let's say, that's a dying language as well, so.

Dan: We've got to start rapping in Jiria

Sidey: There is the Geria band.

Dan: the Moff did a Jiria song

Sidey: Battle of Bex or something like

Dan: Right,

Sidey: It's Hamby.

Reegs: Hambit.

Sidey: Um, Yeah. This wasn't it? Very funny, great dialogue. Well, because it's really cleverly done because it's kind of political

Reegs: Well, because it's really cleverly done because it's kind of political without being

Sidey: a really

Reegs: No. Yeah. And it makes a really complex situation, like funny and entertaining to talk about and you know, and then it's got this great message about protecting your culture and

Cris: also the fact that they are, it kind of puts the montage with the pictures at the end and all that. And it's also, The actors are the,

Reegs: Yeah,

Sidey: the real dudes.

Yeah, they're

Reegs: good.

Cris: so it's not, it's not like, you know, when, when you're 50 and you put, you know, like the fresh out of Compton where the actors that play Dr. Dre and all that, no, this is just them acting like balance, just having a laugh and doing a movie.

And they got an international superstar like Fassbender.

Jerry, whatever his name is, the one with the white beard. Jerry Adams. So you got people that are

Sidey: and the tunes are absolutely

Cris: Yeah, the tunes are good.

Sidey: course they played, belfast by orbital in there as

Reegs: in there as

Dan: remember you know, they would never put Jerry Adams voice on the TV when I

Reegs: right, yeah.

Sidey: be helium

Dan: And I also remember like a few things about when I was, I was a kid, I, I went to Manchester to stay with my in laws on different things.

And we all had to leave the Arlandale center

Sidey: Yeah, i've been i've been to belfast and stuff when I was a kiddie

Dan: bomb threat and

Sidey: such you'd have to get out of the town and that's

Dan: And it was also sort of anti anti anti, but the one thing that stood with me, like, when I was a kid, I remember at school, and maybe this was completely different in UK schools but in Jersey, I remember reading a book about the history of Ireland, and it was done in, like, cartoons, and it had all these kind of invaders, like, with Like masks and swords and shields.

And they goes, they went into Ireland 500 years ago and said, Oh, we love this bit. And you know, and now it's Protestant and this bit, you know, they took it for the, and I just remember thinking like, just as a little kid, that seems fucked up. Like, how can we just go in and take it and say it's ours?

Like, and The

Reegs: did have a habit of doing that

Dan: did have a habit of doing that. Passionate about their own culture and everything. They say the Brits don't bother looking at their own history. They only look at it from a point of view. They won't look at it is like the Germans do with the Nazis and say, well, that was a fucked up time.

We better learn from it and all the rest of it. The Brits have just kind of gone.

No,

it's somebody else's or we did. Okay. We ruled the Empire. That's what we should be proud of. Not the fact we fucked over loads of. Hundreds of hundreds of years ago before any of us were anything, but maybe I was he's just a youngster then, but it does.

You can feel the anger. Like I remember if you've ever seen a film in the name of the father with Daniel Day Lewis it's another one where they put away, you know, innocent people for, for bombings. He just fought the British at a time, like the fucking, you know, the establishment who would just get anybody.

Is like if they had a

Reegs: There's a load of it as well.

Dan: matter birmingham

Reegs: six and all that. Yeah. But

Dan: and all the rest of it and it'd be like

It's fucked up. Let's be honest, you know, it's um And and having you know, if if anything if it does draw people's attention to just saying well have a look at your own

Sidey: they touch on it, don't they? Because obviously it's like, Far more complex than we can, like, get into, you know, a silly podcast. But, Georgia and him, and he says, he says something to Harry, he says, I was fucking born here.

Yeah. You know, so it's difficult.

Reegs: of difficult. Yeah, he, the central argument is about the Brits getting out

Sidey: a Brit, I'm fucking born in Ulster, you

Dan: yeah.

And, and also listening again, because since I've, I've watched this, I've followed them on Instagram and you know, really listen to their

Reegs: Did they, did they follow you

Dan: brilliant.

I imagine that there was only a matter of time. I think they've got quite a few, I got a few followers now, haven't they? So they're probably shifting through but yeah, I mean, that's it. They've got some, some big people involved now, but it's obviously it is you know.

an

ongoing kind of complex issue and things but it's also kind of simple where you've got to go fucking hell there it's pretty fucked up if you go far back enough in time to say

Sidey: well it's probably the dinosaurs land originally

Dan: yeah

Sidey: could do about that tell you what it is dan it's a strong recommend

Dan: is a strong recommend and and what i want to say then is is one of the things they said there wasn't so much problem between sort of the north and the south before the English started really ramping it up and trying to poke division between them where there was jokes between it and they go oh yeah you know you are soul and and orange and fucking all the rest of it but then they started

You

know making division on purpose to try to politicize fucking things and We we did vice didn't we earlier in the week where you you know that big political figures will make manipulate things for other interests

Reegs: I don't think there's much oil in Belfast

Dan: No, maybe not oil

Sidey: to find out.

Dan: there's It's fucking cracking film, I mean I I think it was at some Dance, the first Irish film at Sundance Irish speaking film, Sundance, and I think it's going up for the Oscars as well.

So,

Reegs: foreign language.

Dan: Yeah. So, much power to Strong.

recommend. Well,

this is fresh in the mind 'cause we just watched this.

Sidey: accessoire,

Dan: SOIs. Yeah.

Reegs: Is it where, did you, were you aware of this before, or

Cris: Never heard of it. I just thought I would find something that is

Well, no, I

hopefully not. No, but because it was this week, because I had the norms, the only movie that I had as a nomination was kneecap because I watched it a couple of weeks ago and I was like, this is good.

I'm going to put this as a, as a, as a recommend. And then what can I add to a message that, or something to do with And I can't remember what I actually looked for. I looked on all the platforms that I subscribed to like Prime and Netflix and all

Sidey: and all

Cris: And I was looking, I can't remember what I was looking for.

Like political or activism. I can't remember something to do with, with something of that topic, but to be a

Dan: And the American Indians turned up.

Cris: Yeah. Which is

Reegs: The Sioux people,

Cris: The Sioux,

Sidey: a

Reegs: branch of the Sioux.

Dan: Yes.

Reegs: A very

Cris: nonsense. Yeah. It's, it's a generic term

Dan: And it had a nice, had a nice little opening kind of ditty and tune, didn't it?

Cris: a French production.

Reegs: Belgian. Yeah, there is not a single indigenous person

Dan: No. It looked like Chinese

Reegs: the production or writing of

Sidey: animation. Good.

Cris: But it's, we did Yaari we watched on YouTube the English speaking version episode Five Kings of the Plains. lot of the planes.

Reegs: We

should have watched the Irish

Dan: Well

this was yeah, it was a, it was a nice style cartoon. The kind of stuff I say, nice style kind of stuff that I enjoyed watching. When I was a kid, it had that,

What kind of

animation is it?

Not Thundercats, but it was very French.

Sidey: Do you remember the guy? It was a cartoon Cowboy and he was on the bubblegum rappers It reminds me of that That art style I can't think of his name

Anyhow

Cris: Anyway, we've got the protagonist. The main protagonist is this kid, the Akari, who is a Sioux child. And

Dan: He's bowling

Cris: bowling sticks. They, the earth is moving and they're like, is this a thunder? No, it's the Buffalo. And then the elders or the men go to hunt the

Dan: go, go hunting, and, and it is, it's this kind of story of them hunting. They come back, they have thanks. They sat around the fire, aren't they? And they're going, oh, we must thank the buffalo for the meat it gives us and the skins it gives us to keep warm.

Yeah. Which made us think about how we do that, isn't it? How we celebrate

Sidey: how

Dan: the quavers that we get and, and the chicken nuggets when we come back and we thank yeah, we thank walkers for the crisps they provide and

Sidey: they're,

they're sort of ethical hunters in the sense that they'd They just take what

Reegs: Well, the buffalo, one of the things is that Yukiri can talk to animals and he will, you know, go out to meet the, the

Sidey: buffalo. It helps the story along, doesn't it?

Reegs: And the buffalo sort of seem to understand they're in a symbiotic relationship with the humans.

They allow them to hunt them, but they're pissed off because one of their number are pregnant.

Sidey: Yeah, she's done a runner.

Reegs: I was gonna say a pregnant girl lady. A lady

all girls. can't say that now. you pregnant buffalo. Yeah. Yeah. His hasn't been returned and he goes, look, my people would never hunt,

Sidey: Yeah, they

Reegs: Not before he's attacked by a rabid buffalo as well who thinks this has happened

Dan: has happened. Yeah. Yeah. And, and it was a nice message actually, wasn't it?

Cause you just thought, well, as a kid, you'd be watching. I go, well, why would, you know, why wouldn't you hunt that one there? And you go, well, because it's going to, give birth and that's going to help, you know, sustain the numbers

Sidey: Yes, because the silly buffalo fucks would just keep reproducing and eat all the grass and then they wouldn't be able to, they'd starve.

Reegs: But also if you kill the young ones, there's no young

Sidey: Yeah, exactly. So it's just population control.

Reegs: Uh,

So,

but he says it's not that she's either like, got lost or been taken by wolves.

And to cut a very long story short, turns out it was the latter. So

Sidey: she's had a

Reegs: calf? Yeah, she's had a calf

Dan: But, but, he's also kind of right, because the wolves yeah, yeah are closing in, and they've gone to this kind of,

Sidey: Yeah. They're in a kind of bowl, aren't they?

Dan: and he, he makes some some fire to keep them at bay, which works for a while.

Reegs: a golden eagle that swoops in, his

Sidey: It's all some kind of like fever dream. He's been on the peace

Dan: Kind of waiting for Brave Star, but, um

Sidey: Well, he fans the flames. I think. I don't think he knows. I thought he was just planning to make a bigger fire because he keeps seeing him adding stuff but he inadvertently makes smoke

Dan: No, I think he's making Yeah, I reckon he's

Cris: was he was resourceful.

Dan: like help. You know, SOS dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot

Sidey: Something like that, yeah.

So in the knickers of time, he's dead, the wolf is about to pounce on him, the calf, on all of them.

Dan: And it comes to that what was that horse thing we watched, Spirited, or something called,

Sidey: something?

It's episode one of the pod, it's still the best thing we've ever

Dan: And he, he jumped forward. His mate who'd been playing bowl, bowling sticks with earlier brings up another horse that starts going Kung Fu horse shit on the on the wolves.

And then one of the wolves just gets one in the faces and he goes

and and they all piss off. Yeah. The, the day is saved and, and the Buffalo Who are huge they're large and they're kind of thankful that they haven't been ripped apart by, by wolves

Reegs: Well, they thank

Sidey: wolves. Until they're slaughtered for

Dan: Later, later, you know, I mean, it's I don't know how they select between themselves, like, oh

Sidey: Every, like, midsummer, the, you know, the oldest ones got

Reegs: We reached

Dan: got to go.

You've reached the age, maybe. Yeah, it was It's not a story that I'd been on my radar before this. I didn't see many.

Sidey: I think Riggs might have had a few. you mentioned in the intro about some reservations.

Reegs: There aren't any, you know, it's very good.

Well, there aren't, you know, it is cultural appropriation in the fact that none of these people is, this isn't their culture. I mean, you said it was a whole bunch of Chinese, French, and Belgian people, and it does perpetuate the savage trope a little bit and some, you know, stereotypes of Native Americans, but I don't give a shit about it.

You know, I mean, I don't care about any of that stuff, but it's, it's all there.

Sidey: thought, yeah, I mean, maybe, but those stereotypes were positive, I thought. But anyway, really like this because it's got horses in and animals and a positive message and

such

Dan: Yeah, about

Sidey: I really liked the way it looked. I thought the animation was really

Dan: like the animation, like the message that, you know, they were living sustainably with the land. They weren't taking more than they needed.

They were thankful for what they got, which is just so, I mean, you talk about, you know,

cultural and all the rest of it. What's more wrong is maybe going to the fucking supermarket, buying a fucking chicken or steak and not even fucking just leaving it raw because you couldn't be bothered to eat it or, you know, that kind of Well, it is, it's true, isn't it? Just the supermarket culture seems more fucking sickening than,

Reegs: I

Dan: what they're

Reegs: know, such waste at Christmas as

Dan: Yeah but this was interesting, interesting. I mean, I wouldn't rule out watching another

Reegs: Oh, of course you fucking would. You barely watched this one. I was in the room.

Sidey: You were putting us, you were distracting us.

We were all in.

Dan: If I, if, if I had,

Sidey: were stood by the screen. How could

Dan: yeah, if I had you know, if I have more children and who knows, I might, you know,

Sidey: anybody

Dan: if anybody wants to step forward into a mantel.

Sidey: I would say, strong recommend.

Dan: Strong recommend. Best thing we've never seen.

Is this the end again?

Sidey: It's the end. It's the

Dan: to believe. Is this the last pod we're going to do this week?

Sidey: Yeah. Is it Riggs turn?

Reegs: Is it? Alright,

Dan: had a turn in like four years,

Reegs: Dan's

Sidey: Dan's turn.

Dan: it must be my turn. We know it's gonna be Gilmore

Sidey: to have to now all week just hassle you about

Dan: Yeah,

Reegs: yeah. You'll eventually give your

Sidey: And then you'll forget what they are.

Dan: can watch season 1

Sidey: Not watching Gilmore Girls?

Dan: Girls. You can do that. That is locked in That's only about 45 minutes, I think

Sidey: Oh, what's that?

Dan: No,

Reegs: Is that, what, is that the kids thing or the mid weeker? That

Dan: be the kids thing.

Sidey: Jeez. Can we do all Why don't we do all TV?

Dan: Well, oh really sure choice. So why not?

Oh, is it is it? No, I'm pretty

i'm pretty sure it's not 45 minutes otherwise I will we'll see it may there may be an animated gilmore girls thing but I want I want you all to feel the pain that I have felt maybe i'll just choose a really random one where Rory breaks up with Dean, and and then Jess gets on the scene, but then they get back together, and, and Luke's, Luke's diner is all just

Reegs: and Dean are together.

Dan: Well, Rory and Dean got together

Sidey: spoil it!

Dan: okay, right, just have to tune in next time.

Cris: Rory

Sidey: remains is to say, Sidey's signing out.

Reegs: Re says out as well.

Cris: well. La

Dan: Dan's gone.