Interstellar & The Jetsons

Interstellar

Sidey:

into outer space this week with uh, still no intro because rigs is selfishly still on holiday.

Dan: Yeah. How long has that been?

Sidey: One week?

Cris: Who

Pete: Who goes away for a big extended periods and just doesn't get involved in

Dan: the podcast. I mean, but if he's going away, he misses maximum pod, doesn't he? That's his second one. And it's just a week.

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I was away, I was also away this week. I, yeah.

Dan: You're here.

Yeah. Okay. Well I hope he's had a pleasant holiday. Do, have you heard from him?

Sidey: Only the very brief messages on like WhatsApp group last night.

Pete: was

a, there whilst he was away, he'd clearly been on the, like the, the all inclusive cocktails cuz he started getting quite chirpy.

Sidey: did? Yeah, he

did.

Pete: night. Like throwing out shade our way and stuff and get, getting all, getting all brave.

Sidey: Yeah. A couple of mojitos. Yeah. Dan, did you watch anything this week?

Dan: I did. I watched

white

Men Can't Jump the, the new one

Sidey: mm-hmm.

Dan: on Disney.

Sidey: How do you feel about that?

Dan: I felt good about it. Yeah? Yeah. I felt really good.

Cris: Who is it with?

Dan: It's with actors I've never heard of,

Sidey: I think it's like Jack Harlow or something like that.

It's like a, a rapper white rapper. A bad one.

Cris: Right. Okay. God. So it's not like Mark Wahlberg or something.

Dan: I, I dunno. But they could, they could shoot who? They were good players. Yeah. Yeah. They, they, there's

Pete: wrong with the original. It's a

Dan: film. No, no. And it's not, it doesn't, it doesn't copy the original other than it's based on white men Count John.

It's like another story.

Sidey: because they're also doing Fatal Attraction, aren't they? But I think that one might be a series

you

Pete: you gonna watch that with your mum?

Sidey: Maybe.

Yeah.

possibly. Well, it's not as

horny as

Cris: you, were you, was that right? Was that, do you recommend that to

Dan: Yeah, I would watch it. I'd check it out. I we, we may do a, a future feature like that.

We'll see. Yeah. Remake and

Sidey: original

and remake, yeah.

Dan: And see how they compare. We've got a few though, haven't we? We could do a few films like that. Yeah.

Pete: It

could be a top five even.

 So I've, since I was last here, watched quite a lot of things. I'm up to date with yellow Jackets.

I haven't discussed that actually

Sidey: we'll do that. We'll do that

Pete: we'll do that off air. Yeah. How we felt about the season finale of two, it's coming back, right?

Sidey: Yeah. Five. I think they got five series planned. Geez.

Pete: I could do without the, like the people eating stuff, but other than that it's it's kind of

Sidey: hard to make a cannibal themed story without people

Pete: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it is. Yeah. I've watched for no real good reason other than I like to sort of. Phil idle moments with, with films that I don't necessarily have to be watching intently at any point in time. So over the course of the last three weeks, I've watched all five of the Pirates of the Caribbean films.

Again, the fourth one is really poor,

Dan: just had them on

Sidey: just the fourth one.

Pete: Yeah,

just the fourth one. The others I,

Cris: I enjoyed all of them. I,

Pete: I, I, I wasn't s fussed about the fourth, the, the found and the youth one,

Cris: tell you which one is

Sidey: Yeah, There were boats and stuff.

Pete: Yeah, no, they're really cool.

I like

Dan: I did something similar with Star Wars, but I started at one and then you get into Jar Jar bin and

Pete: Yeah. Well the, everyone knows the prequels are way worse than the sequel equals, so, I, I'd previously done it with all the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit and was looking for other, like, stuff like that.

There

Sidey: through the James Bonds. are, go through all the James

Pete: Yeah, I could do that. That'll take a while. There was another film that I watched, but I'm going to not talk about it now cause I'm gonna talk about it when we get into our top five.

Sidey: Oh, okay. Nice. Chris,

Cris: Okay. I did say to you earlier, I've watched a movie called Sisu. It's a, it's a, it's filmed in Finland. I'm not really sure. I didn't really look into the details of it.

It's fucking brutal and it's good. And it's basically this ex Finnish marine or special forces who discovers gold in somewhere in Lapland, right at the end of the second World War. He has two bags filled with gold and he's trying to get back to Helsinki to put them in a bank and get money.

But he goes past the German army. They're retreating German army, and long story short, they figure out he's got gold. They kind of, the first patrol let him live. The second patrol stops him. They realize he's got gold. They see the gold. He kills all of them. And then, It's, he tries to escape from the other ones that they have a tank, they have a motorbike with a side thing to them.

They've

Dan: How much gold has he got? It's

Cris: a lot of gold. It's a, it's a lot of gold, and he's got a horse and they got a tank and like the trucks and ice. Honestly, it's, if you like,

the finished version of, and a village version of John Wick. But way worse, right? Honestly, if, if you like someone that kills everyone. That guy is, and apparently he was labeled as the immortal by the Russian troops in the war because in the war, because he tried apparently all the

Pete: true story based on a true story,

Cris: Apparently. The, the,

Pete: completely fabricated.

Cris: The word, the word sisu in finish means something that can't really be expressed in a, in a word, in trans translation.

It just means someone with blue eyes. That is.

Cold and steely, I guess, or,

Pete: right.

Okay.

Cris: anyway, that was worth a watch. Yeah, yeah.

Dan: Okay.

Nice.

What about

Cris: I've also watched the Bobby Robson documentary on on Amazon Prime, but honestly it's

Sidey: Yeah. I've seen that one. It's brilliant. It was good.

Yeah. It's a bit of a tear jerker towards end.

Cris: Yeah. But

Sidey: Oh, I was in a bad way on Saturday and I watched annihilation. Anyone seen that?

Pete: Don't think so.

Sidey: It's Natalie Portman.

And a team of kind of military slash scientists. There's a meteor has hit somewhere on a lighthouse and created it. It's called the Shimmer.

This is sort of dome area where everything's fucking getting a bit crazy. And they go in there and kind of reminiscent of last of us cuz it's, there's people seem to be infected by kind of fungal stuff and grown all this weird shit. And then, do you remember the scarlet handsome one that we watched under the Skin?

Like an alien appears at the end like that and just mimics. Natalie

Portman, like, like, you know, like literally like every movement shake, she copy it and then she sets it on fire. And honestly, at the end I was like, what the fuck if I just watched? It's so weird.

Dan: Yeah. It sounds it right.

Sidey: I mean, it is

way, way weirder than I've even made it

Dan: Yeah. I was thinking my following here, but then it was good.

Sidey: I mean, it's, it's like a two hour long movie, so there's, there's more to it, but it's really weird. It's it was written and directed by a guy called Alex Garland where he adapted it from

Dan: right. He he did the uh, The beach, didn't he? And the Tesser

Sidey: He did,

devs and he did one of the films that I'm gonna talk about in our top five segue.

So last week's top five was God's Pete. You correctly pointed out. One out. I think we put in, for me, I was mulling over what the last one was gonna be. Still don't really know. Clash of the Titans got a few shouts and vis that. Even put a gif up, which gives it extra credence, I

Pete: I, I was, the first one that came to my mind was was Zeus.

Sidey: Zeus.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's put that in. Cause I used to have a

Pete: Although, although I was, I was hoping someone was gonna mention Maui and you did side, so,

Sidey: Sign. Yeah. Yeah.

Pete: you, you even referenced me in that.

Sidey: side. I knew you'd be excited about that. Should we put Maui in then? Do you want

Maui to go? Yeah. All right.

Maui's in. Right. This week's top five bit of a free hit. Really it's about journeys into space or journey through space. I guess you can do whatever you like. Mm-hmm. And so, yeah, I mean, who wants to kick it off?

Pete: This is where I go to go first and Dan cuts across. Oh, do you only do that to reeks?

Dan: I only do that to re There's no fun without,

Pete: Do you wanna go first and Dan?

Dan: No, no. You crack on Pete

Pete: You're teeing this up. Well, I think the undisputed queen of sci-fi and journeys into space is probably s Weaver and I would say

no

greater performance than her one in 1990 nines Galaxy Quest.

have you not? No.

That that's when she stopped being Sigourney Weaver and, and became Sig Horny Weaver for me.

Sidey: me.

Pete: I dunno why, but up to that point, I'd, I'd seen the alien films, all of them that had happened up to before 99.

Dan: What about Ghostbusters? She

Pete: and Ghostbusters?

Dan: had that moment,

Pete: hot in Ghostbusters, but nothing like, all of a sudden she became like a real, like, wow.

I mean she's like 50 in galaxy. She's flames. And makes up for the fact that Tim Allen's in this movie, Tim Allen's the, the Tall Man guy.

Sidey: Yeah. It buzz like you as well.

Pete: Yeah. I'm sure it's Tim Allen.

Sidey: It is Tim

Pete: yeah. And it's like Sam Rockwell and it's like, and it's, it's a lighthearted fun, silly, but

Sidey: but Severs is in it.

Pete: Who? Oh, it is? Yeah. Alan Rickman's in it as well. Yeah. I forgot about him. yeah, it's lighthearted. It's funny the premise not wanting to spoil it too much,

Sidey: I know the

Pete: there's a TV show that you know, I think called Galaxy Quest, which is like, you know, famously run its course, but then you've got all these, like, you know, they, they go to all these

Sidey: conventions,

Pete: conventions, and it's like, you know, like Questy, I guess they'd probably be called.

But they're all like getting a bit long in the tooth now. And the series ran for a bit. It's had its day and, and there's reruns of it and so on. But some aliens who've been watching this and believe it to be like, I guess, you know, video diaries of, of a real kind of like crack space team believed like when they encounter some difficulties on their planet, believe that the only people in the universe that can save them are the, the, the, the cast of, of this Galaxy quest thing.

So they come to earth and convince them.

So, but, and at first because they take human form like, so Tim Allen and, and the rest of the crew just assume they're like mad fans who like, just believe that, believe that it's true. So they're going along with it. They think it's like, they're like super fans and then before long they realize that they're actually on a spaceship and all these like, fucked up things are actually happening.

And then yeah, they set about saving the galaxy. It's good fun. It's lighthearted, it's not gonna win any, or it didn't win any Oscars. But I, I like it and I think you should watch it side.

Sidey: yeah, I'm pretty sure I would

enjoy it. Yeah,

Pete: got Sigourney in it. Yeah. Flames. Yeah. Absolute

flames in it.

Dan: Well, I, I've got one.

Really just

a lovely, lovely animation Wally. And nothing is said, there's hardly any dialogue throughout most of this film.

Sidey: which sny again, isn't it?

The, The white

robot is sig

Yeah,

Dan: there you go. It's, it's almost in

Pete: is she hot in that

Sidey: Have you not seen Wally?

Pete: No.

Dan: you've not seen Wally. I've not

Pete: seen it. No. It's never appealed.

Sidey: hates Disney, so he won't have seen it.

Dan: Oh. Like,

Pete: and films about space.

Dan: Honestly, I didn't, I didn't think I would enjoy this the, before I watched it and now I'm talking about it because it's, it really is a f

Sidey: it's like not to silent movies, isn't it?

Dan: Yeah, it, it's

Sidey: they do a dance out in in space.

Dan: it's got purpose and meaning. It's not just, you know, nothing there's an environmental message, but it's basically set in the, you know, in the future we've got all this rubbish, we've ruined the, the earth, everybody's living up on spaceships above the earth. And everything's done by computers and people have just basically become huge and lazy and unable even to lift their arms.

Sidey: structure has been alter cause they're so fat and lazy. Yeah. They, it's

joking aside, but you sitting, oh, I'm not gonna say that.

It sounds really fucking harsh.

Pete: Just

do it. We're bad dads.

Sidey: I was gonna talk about people with mobility scooters, but, but no's maybe that's not fair.

Dan: but they, they, people are just kind of locked into chairs that float around the spaceship rather than walking and everything is done for them.

Cris: Okay.

Dan: and. Wally, this kind of small little recycling robot takes on this personality almost to, to make everybody wake up. It's just a really nice

Sidey: the

he's the guardian of the little plant that gets found, isn't he? He has,

Dan: right. Yeah. little, they find they find a seedling, which

Sidey: But he effectively falls in love with Sigourney Weaver much like you did when

watching Galaxy

Dan: Yeah.

You and Wally much in common.

Pete: Yeah.

Sidey: What about two films about getting away from earth? So, journey's into space that got they're kind of very similar really, although from different time periods, the right stuff.

Dan: Oh yeah. Right. Okay.

Sidey: Ed Harrison, A few others. astronaut, this is the story

of the early days of nasa and it's the

the me project Mercury.

This is Mercury. So this is like really, really early days. So it is people like John g, Glenn, Alan, she and Chuck Yeager. And it's more kind of about their, the crew and their camaraderie and the early development of how they were gonna go and, and get out and do it. And then I've got First Man.

Dan: right? Yeah. The new one.

Sidey: Damien Chael.

We saw him whiplash and Lala Landon. And this is a kind of biographical film about

Dan: the first man to walk on

Sidey: Neil Armstrong Yeah.

Pete: Lamore.

Dan: yeah. The World. No, the, the Moon.

Cris: That's the one. Yeah,

Dan: it.

Sidey: It's Have you seen it?

Dan: Yeah. It's it's

Cris: with Neil Armstrong. Yeah,

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: of course. Yeah. The

only day's a space race.

Dan: yeah, no, it's, it's a slow burner. It's a long

Sidey: it's like starting off with the test pilot stuff and it's more about him than the space stuff,

but of course it is We already know him

Dan: deep character. Yeah. Performance on a man that isn't very flamboyant.

Sidey: Well, he's a bit of an enigma cuz he's so reclusive and he doesn't, he doesn't talk about all that shit.

He never really spoke about it. Ums only buzz Aldrin who spoke about that sort of shit. He was just a real, I guess it, I don't know too much of him to go

Dan: the attention. I think he, he just was never one of those guys that wanted the attention. He do the mission, he could do the work, but he didn't wanna do all the PR and, and everything. He was a very, let's get to it.

And he was always the best. He was always kind of the best of the best, but just because he worked hard, he didn't get on, you know, board with any shenanigans. He was,

Sidey: Yeah. And so the, the film is is trying to sort of give some color to

Dan: color to that, but also you know, the, the bravery of actually somebody going into space and stepping on a planet for the first time.

Not knowing actually. Yeah. And you know what? What could happen? Could you go right through it? Could it, you know, could something happen? I dunno, could you,

Sidey: but the right stuff has the stuff about breaking the sound barrier, because then didn't the controls go backwards,

don't they? That's and, And,

and people were doing that for the first time and just thinking, fuck these, you know, test pilots meant you could fucking die.

Dan: Well, that, that was it. The, he got out of this crazy turn in tumble, which later stood him in good stead when he had to do it for reels. But he was he had to eject out this time because it was, it

Sidey: he bolded it

Dan: yeah, it was definitely gonna,

Pete: this is Neil Armstrong

Dan: Neil Armstrong and Yeah. You know, genuine, like pilot kind of crazy guy.

Cris: Astronaut, I would imagine.

Dan: yeah. Pilot and then

Pete: allegedly. His footprints are still there to be seen on the moon because there's no wind there whatsoever. So the footprints that he left are still there.

Dan: White. Wow.

Pete: I've not been there to verify that myself, but there's, there's, a moon fact for you.

Cris: There you

Dan: you always see the flag, don't you?

And it's kind of looks like they

Pete: not from here. You can't, you have to go up

Dan: there, the, the flag, because it looks like it's floating.

Sidey: Yeah. Well

let's

Dan: in the

Sidey: Chris,

Cris: I've only got one and I've

Sidey: actually not such as your hatred. of

Cris: I've actually not even seen the movie, but I've seen the music video and it's a music video by Aerosmith and it's

Pete: ah, that McDon.

Sidey: Oh, that's Armageddon. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cris: So, yeah,

Dan: is a go pleasure of

Pete: Yeah. Yeah. No,

Cris: So that, that's the

Sidey: have to, yeah, they have to drill. They have to drill into a meteor

Cris: That's the one

Sidey: it. Yeah. Yeah.

Cris: say. Yeah,

Pete: I have seen that film and I wish I hadn't, cuz it bollocks.

Cris: Is

Dan: No, that's

Sidey: Stan likes it, I remember Dan saying it

Dan: a, it is a real guilty pleasure of mine.

Cris: There you go. I've never seen

Dan: even that guilty.

I, I, I love this movie. I've watched it probably

Cris: Okay, well you can tell the, what the story is because I've only watched

Dan: Yeah, you pretty

Cris: you the music video, how it

Dan: is a great, great music video

Cris: video End's song.

Dan: great song

Pete: Well, if Tyler's in the film, isn't she?

Dan: Tyler, Ben Affleck,

Sidey: Emmi Willis. Yeah. they're all in

Dan: and

Pete: Yeah, yeah. Willis.

Sidey: So Michael Bay Re's

a big

Dan: Owen Wilson.

Yeah. He's one of the, the riggers

Sidey: I've defer to you.

He's Seen it. 20

Dan: Yeah, that's right. And it's, it's. A solid choice. I like it. Yeah.

Cris: you go. That's the one I

Dan: they go and save the world, Pete. I mean, you're dissing him. They got what have you done?

Pete: the world by

Dan: there wast America. It was Bruce Willis.

It was Bruce Willis because it was gonna be Ben Affleck but spoil love right at the end who

Sidey: sends him home?

Dan: sends him home with a lefthander and he says, you look after my daughter and he goes to take it anyways. Little bit too early.

Sidey: I think Bruce

Willis has only just been okay with being killed in films. Cuz spoiled out 12 Monkeys is the first

time he ever

Dan: Well, if you're gonna go, you go saving the world.

Sidey: Exactly. Yeah.

Dan: That's how Bruce goes. Yeah.

Pete: He

realizes more glory in it.

Sidey: Back to you Pete.

Pete: Back to me.

Okay. Well I, I'm gonna talk about the, the film that I watched. Good

Cris: It's always a good point. Yeah.

Pete: Well, I mentioned just before, but I said I talk about in the top five

Dan: one we're all waiting for.

Pete: right. So we, we've all, I, well you obviously haven't Chris, but the rest of us have seen the, the first film I have have now watched Avatar two, the Way of the Water Horse, whatever it's called.

Dan: Right, okay.

Pete: Which,

Sidey: is boring.

Pete: right. So there's a lot of hate from you. I know, but Avatar, I like Avatar. It's one of those films I can go back to and watch. It's like a Pirates of the Cat, bit of not even a guilty pleasure, just something that it's. You know, and even though I know it's gonna happen, like visually, these films are fucking incredible.

And you can imagine that, you know, take it to underwater on, on the planet. I've forgotten the name of the planet. They're not looking for unobtainium anymore. But I mean, there's so many plot holes in this, it, it's

Dan: it's hard to believe

Pete: It, it's almost like it didn't happen. It's all made up, but there's so many ridiculous potholes.

Like any, everyone that does goy weaver again, fucking hell. She's in it. Everyone that I know that I was gonna say something, then she's like brought back as, as like a, a child. But then I was like starting to get into like dangerous

Cris: Perfect for you. Yeah.

Pete: fancy fancying Sigourney weaver the child. Like the, but she's a blue, like avatar child thing.

Cris: it's allowed, that's

Pete: Yeah.

But again, like visually, it's, they'd be tough to sit for three and a half, four hours, whatever it is in the cinema. Especially cuz

Sidey: I, because they're shit quite

Pete: ass and it gets itchy after a while in a cinema seat. But the, like, visually absolutely fucking incredible. Don't shake your head.

Like you, you don't get turned on by that. Yeah, I mean the, it's pretty much the same storyline again. I'll save you the mother of ever having to watch it side, but I fucking really enjoyed it. It, the first half hour or so, I was like,

Dan: you go to the cinema to

Pete: No, I didn't. No,

Dan: Just

Cris: Do you know what I have to say?

I've watched the first avatar.

Pete: You have seen it?

Cris: it? I have seen the first one. You, and I can't tell you, I couldn't tell you that they went to space.

Pete: Well, it's set in space. Like there's blue alien things like and they're flying around

on creatures of that. You didn't think it was set in like fucking,

Cris: I couldn't remember.

That's how memorable it was for me. California.

Pete: Yeah. You didn't,

Cris: I, I couldn't remember. Pandora

Pete: is the name of the

Sidey: planet. That's right. Yeah,

Pete: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I look if Did you, how did you get on with the first avatar

down?

Dan: I, it was bought into the hype, I think was probably my first mistake because there was huge hype around the first film.

It was. All singing, all dancers. When I did see it, I didn't think much of it and I haven't been in a rush to go and see Avatar too. We're

Pete: about the the highest box office franchise of all time.

Dan: Yeah.

Cris: now

Pete: now superseded all the Marvel stuff again, because the second one's come

Dan: I, I wonder how much Yeah,

Sidey: has the, the biggest number for one film, but in total it won't be the biggest

cause then, two films. but it has the highest grossing.

Pete: I think maybe because of the release of the second one, then, sorry, the first one has now gone back into first place cuz a lot of people have gone back

Sidey: to like three.

Cris: Yeah. So what like listen now The Little Mermaid is out to watch for people. If that makes a gazillion dollars, does that make it the best movie in the world?

No. It means there's a lot of idiots like Disney.

Sidey: So we should point out,

Pete: I

don't, I

Sidey: we should point out two things that Chris hates we've learned in film world are sci-fi films and Disney.

Cris: I

don't hate sci-fi films, I just don't really understand the hype and Disney, I have a personal reason for it.

Yeah,

Sidey: Yeah, that's fine.

Dan: Well, I've

Pete: by Walt Disney.

Cris: Oh, I used to work for your company.

Pete: got Raped by Mickey

Cris: Martin. And I've realized how they are, how they really are. They just care about money. They don't care about, Ooh, little girls in princesses. No. They just want your money.

Pete: It's very true.

Dan: Bottom line stuff. Yeah. Something else.

That was very true. It was Apollo 13.

Sidey: Mm-hmm.

Dan: It was 1990, which yes. You

Cris: Oh right. Okay. I had no idea.

Dan: That was when the film was made,

Sidey: It's the only acceptable Tom Hank's film.

Dan: it. Well, it's

Pete: What a statement.

Sidey: He's a complete cunt. We should just point that out.

Dan: We have a problem.

Sidey: Don't like

Cris: is he? Why?

Sidey: Yeah.

prick?

Pete: Why?

Sidey: of all the stuff

Cris: What about for his gum? For His gum was good.

Sidey: He was at Epstein's Island. You all know it.

was

Cris: of Hollywood.

Sidey: can't

Cris: really argue with

Sidey: Nah, you, so you say.

Cris: I dunno. Anyway, done.

Dan: Well, he just jumped all over my big up Tom Hanks for this film now. But Tom Hanks, Kevin Bacon, bill Paxton, they were all in this, and it was the true story of the Apollo

Sidey: Gary Siz as well.

Dan: Yeah, he was in it as well. It all went wrong. They had a problem. And Hanks kind of bought 'em home. He

Cris: What a guy. Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah.

Well it

Dan: was more to

Sidey: him home. He was just fucking,

Pete: I remember the scene where they, they have to replicate. They've got, they're just like, it's, it's like the krypton

Sidey: Yeah. It's like what have you got?

Pete: the bits that they've got in the shuttle that they have to

Sidey: a So no is like what

we've got.

Pete: yeah. Some chewing

Sidey: a box, a dilly and we've got a manufacture something

to get their, send

Pete: the, a team up. Like they

Cris: the essentials. That's what your

Dan: E should, but I mean, That actually sort of happened going

Sidey: it actually has happened. Yeah. It is, it's a journey away from and then back to, yeah.

Dan: them kind of MacGyvering their way back home with, as you say, bits of old toaster in

Sidey: and they get, and Neil Armstrong's in it, Neil Armstrong and buzz Rin go and see his Tom X's

Dan: that's right.

They're at the they're in Houston. Comfort in the families is, this news comes through because it's captured America and the world's attention. But yeah, it was one of those amazing stories where they, they came through.

Chris is just split because he, he says he needs the toilet, but we think he just can't stand sci-fi

Sidey: longer.

Pete: He's gone to watch Avatar too.

Dan: Got any more there side?

Sidey: Yeah. You know, I'd love to throw a Simpsons episode in there.

The world. How about deep Space Homer? It's the 15th episode of the fifth season.

It starts out with everyone, every single person at the nuclear power plant has one employee of the week, and so home is waiting for his turn, but they, instead they give it to an en inanimate carbon rod. And then him,

Dan: the rod, the rod,

Sidey: a, there's a problem with the popularity of of space travel.

So they decide to get to Joe Public people and train them up and see who's the best one and put one of them into the next shuttle launch.

And so it's between Barney and Homer and Barney. Barney wins, but he drinks the non-alcoholic champagne and go, like, goes into a complete free fall. And so Homer sent up and smuggles some crinkle cut chips onto the space shuttle, which causes pandemonium. And it's the inanimate carbon rod spoiler alert that is able to sort of jury Jimmy Rigby door

shut to

Dan: saved the day.

Sidey: And the inanimate carbon rod is given a ticket take parade on, on the return. It's a fucking great episode. Really, really, really good. So yeah,

Dan: Yeah, they just, even when people described you, they still make you laugh because you, you can just see all those scenes.

Sidey: They go, they goes, they cut, like they're watching the tele and home is like the, the batteries fall out the remote and it's the, they're talking about the space the next like launch and it's go and, and let's meet the crew.

Have we got a mathematician, a different kind of mathematician and a statistician. They're panicking cuz they can't change a channel. Brilliant.

Pete: Right. Other film, I've got quite a few that I'd like to talk about. Another one is the 1954 film for Forbidden Planet.

Dan: Have you on scene this? No,

Sidey: I

think I

Pete: It's really, it's a really good film. Re remind me.

Dan: me.

plots,

Pete: so, right, so there's, there's a, a space as with so many films sort of, I guess before you could, you know, get a bit more creative with, with like visuals and also like storyline and so on.

There's someone has, has gone out into space and got lost, disappeared, something's happened, whatever. So anyway, the the, these guys are on a mission to, to travel to this planet. And when they get there, there's a guy who's been there for, for a long time and he's basically set up camp on this planet.

And at first it's one of those, he's kind of like, welcome, welcoming, welcoming them in. Leslie Nielsen is in this as a, as a young actor. And when they get there, they notice that this, this sort of like, there's a big electric fence that's kind of like ing off, like the area that, that he's in inhabited and so on.

But there's a. There are all of a sudden people start going missing crews, start going like wandering to like the

Dan: and Not coming back.

Pete: thing not coming back. And then it starts like you start hearing these like noises and like roaring and, and so on. And I can't remember the exact details, but I think somehow this guy is, is what it is.

He, he's quite happy living there by himself, doesn't want to be like rescued or found or anything like that. And so it's he's used technology to basically create this like electromagnetic monster that lives beyond the perimeter. But there's quite a sort of a famous, it is quite a famous monster that when it eventually like comes to the fence, the electric fence, it sort of sends a charge through it.

It's invisible normally, but it sends

Dan: sends Right.

Pete: and it's, it looks quite a lot like the, the Hth Wompa. Oh yeah. But in kind of like electric like form. And even, even for, I mean obviously if you know 1954, you can imagine the special effects aren't exactly like groundbreaking. But even then, I remember watching this like when I was younger and being like pretty scared.

Dan: Probably were groundbreaking for the time then.

Pete: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty pretty scared. But yeah, it's a, it's a really cool kind of like, you know, space adventure. With, with a,

Dan: was another one that you've reminded me of, an old black and white one. It might have been the, they came from outta space and there was Martians living underground and there was slowly taking people and sending them back into society, but they'd kind of zombified them and they'd all changed.

And it was people's teachers or doctors or moms and dads and the kids were going, this is all a bit weird. And there was one little kid who was running around and pulling everyone together to save the day. And yeah, those old black and white films with their limited budget and yeah. You know, rudimentary special effects.

But they worked, there were, a lot of them were practical effects as well. So, with the right lighting and that kind of thing, as, as a kid, you, they affected you, you

Pete: Yeah. Yeah. I've, I've, I yeah,

Dan: cool. This

Pete: a good film.

Dan: Has, has any of you seen Barbarella? because I

Sidey: ranked to it. Because,

Dan: because I haven't. And I was looking at this and I think that was that Jane Fonder one.

So when you were talking about Sigourney Weaver being

Sidey: you've not seen it absolute

Dan: hotty, but I've not seen barbella,

Sidey: Oh, it's real, like psychedelic, like campy.

Dan: Yeah. And I know that it sold a lot of kind of suits and fashion off, off

Pete: like, It's

Sidey: not Ross Worm,

Pete: it not?

Sidey: not?

I

Dan: It's the, the poster is the

Pete: yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's a bird in a, like a bikini, like, but it's made of fur or whatever. Yeah. Oh, am I, yeah. Am I thinking the right

Dan: And it was, yeah, it was one of those iconic fashion trends after that. Mm-hmm.

Sidey: might have a space journey in it.

Dan: might do.

I think it has,

Sidey: Yeah. hopefully.

What about Flash Gordon? One of the greatest films ever made? Have you seen that?

Pete: Are you talking about Flash Gordon or Flash Gordon? Flash, I've, yes, I've seen

Sidey: Yeah.

Pete: There's a Flash Gordon too. Is that Yeah,

Sidey: I've not seen, that, but

Pete: seen, I've, I think that's the one where there's like a, I might be getting it confused with South part of the movie now. I'm sure there's like a big I know it's not a big clitoris.

It's it's like big

Sidey: is a big.

Pete: and Yeah. There, there's

Sidey: in flesh Gordon is a big dick.

Yes. Yeah. So that was why it was memorable. Yeah. It's the kind of sex parody of Flash Gordon. So the, the hero is Flesh Gordon. Ming the Mercers becomes emperor Wang, the perverted and it's a sex ray that he's beaming down and it's sex. Ray is hitting earth and flesh and Dale Ardor are on a plane, which is hit by a sex ray.

And everyone just starts shagging and even the, the pilots and flesh is able to snap himself out of it in time to try and save the, the plane, but can't. And so they, he just parachutes out with Dale and just everyone just fucking dies. And then he lands next.

Pete: is a good way to go though.

Yeah.

Sidey: He lands next to Dr.

Flexi Giov in his lab. And it sets the plot motions then to go

off to planet porno to, to to solve what's going on. So, yeah. Good stuff.

Pete: Yeah, it is good. Well, le less lighthearted and I've, I've mentioned this before on the pod a film that left a lasting impression on me.

Even in the sort of like the first sort of third or so that I saw of it before I walked

Sidey: I knew I knew it was coming

Pete: was event horizon. Which fucking traumatized me. Yeah. Really, really blindsided me. Yeah. As a, as a, I mean, it was 97, so I'd have been like 19, something like that. And just when you're, when you're expecting a film to be.

A certain type of film. I'm thinking scifi film, I'd heard Prodigy soundtrack like, or, or certainly like, you know, some music from the Prodigy involved in it. I'm thinking this is the film made for me and when fucking people are like ripping their, I own eyes out and chatting in Lanzen and everything at Lanzen Latin.

Dan: Yeah.

Pete: Wow. It

was, I mean, I have since watched the film all the way

Dan: and everything.

Pete: during, during the day in a common room in like a hostel where like there was safety and I could clutch onto a pillow and so on. But like the, for, you know, Chris, I dunno if you're looking it up, the premise of the film is this, this spaceship's gone out to ex basically investigate a black hole and has just disappeared and seven years later it reappears across the other side of the galaxy and they've got to travel out to find it.

The guy who, who created the it's got a black hole within it, I think it is. It's, it harnesses the power of a black hole so it's able to disappear and reappear somewhere else, but it's meant to happen instantaneously and it takes seven years. For the ship to, to reappear. And as you get closer and you start hearing like recordings from the ship and there's a lot of like screaming and wailing and fucking Latin chaning and stuff, and then they start getting visuals from the ship.

And then eventually they go onto the ship itself and the ship is effectively possessed. It's been, the ship has been in hell for seven years and people are getting fucking torn apart and like strung up by like hooks with all their like guts being like pulled out and it's, fuck it. And Sam, Sam Neil is the main guy, like, and it's good.

It's like Lawrence Fishburn. There's a, there's a really good cast in it and it is a good film, but it, fuck it, I was not prepared for the horrors within,

Dan: was kind of one theory on what is on the edge of our universe and what happens, isn't it? And it was just like, well, it's that, it's hell quite,

Pete: quite nasty and jarring.

But yeah, I, it's a good film. I don't think I'll watch it again unless I'm forced to

Dan: a, a nicer pace.

Kind of less gory one was rival which we've spoken about before. Amy Adams is the linguist who's an expert recruited to check out this mystery spaceship that's, that's arrived on earth through space on that journey. So that's how I've wedged that in. And I really like this film. It was the other, there was another guy brought into it.

It plays with the timelines, which I, I like a lot of these films too, including the midweek that we, we watched where they all, they'll just play with timelines and things and and it all plays into, to theories of the multiverse and, and how, you know, there's different understandings of potential math problems.

It says, well actually it could be string theory or, or, you know, multiverse theories and all these kind of things. And I like the films that play off those. And and this one was, was clever.

Sidey: Cool. For one more then contact. I really like that film. Night 97 again, Jodi Foster. She

Dan: Similar

Sidey: it's another sort of worm. Holy cause a dimensional travel journey that

they, they sent a signal, which within the signal is the blueprint for this device, this contraption that's enabled them to go and explore the universe, galaxy,

Dan: That's right. Yeah.

Sidey: Good. Should we go to Twitterverse?

Cause we've got quite a lot to, of nominations online.

Oh. First one, Russell Davies with Event Horizon. Pete I thought you'd like that. Darren Leafly.

A Grand Day out.

Dan: Grand day out. Ah, of course.

Yeah. A grande out one

Sidey: in inserts of cheese. They build a bright orange spaceship in their cellar and head to the moon.

Pete: You're a big fan of those films, aren't you?

Sidey: Oh, fucking crap. Charlie Bingham nominated Galaxy Quest.

So Won Pete, ah Stevie Stevie's. Big, big fan.

Red Dwarf watched it more than any other TV show and fit to last as long as it did. It's phenomenal. The first series still is funny now as when they're broadcast. And the first episode is the masterclass in writing and character development. JMO. I

Dan: It is excellent. It's

Sidey: Yeah. But diminishing like the la

the la the la is when, when the Dave, when they tried to bring about it just didn't write out for me.

Dan: still a stellar show.

Sidey: Jamo with inter interstellar Armageddon, the Martian. This is a good one. Moonraker.

Honorable, honorable mention to Guardians of the Galaxy. Mel. From all the way over the other side of the world, Capricorn won, starring James Brolin, Elliot Gold and

OJ Simpson.

Dan: OJ Simpson. Yeah.

Sidey: NASA fakes and Mars landing.

And when the rocket exposed on re-entry, they tried to kill the astronauts who fake the scenario on the sound stage. That sounds pretty fucking rad. Bearish with Prometheus.

and Vizi with the last Star Fighter Galaxy Quest and Pitch Black and shout out to the psychedelic weirdness at the end of Disney's, the Black Hole as well.

He also says if we can have TV shows, then Star Trek, Voyager. The whole thing is a voyage. Of course. Battle started to battle Galactico, which I love Red Dwarf again. And the Kele run from solo. Much underrated film in his

Pete: I like solo. It is a good film. What I would say is almost all of the nominations from the, from the punters are on my list here.

I also had The Black Hole, also had Star Trek, Voyager, the series that is my standalone favorite series of star Trek.

Really?

Yeah. Big fan of Voyager. Watched it

Dan: I've never seen any of

Pete: really good Captain Janeway? Yeah.

Dan: I give it some time? Nine

Pete: is, is a, is a really

Dan: where should I start?

Is a, is a newbie going into that? Where

Pete: Into, into what? Voyager

Dan: series. Like I've watched Star Trek with William Schau and then I kind of phased out them and watched the

Pete: Deep space.

Dan: Trek

Pete: no needs. Or your, your favorite is probably Next

Sidey: I love NextGen. DS nine is not wa it's just, it looks bad now cause it's the aspect ratios

Pete: you feel about Voyager?

Sidey: I'm into, I don't like the, what they did with the bo, but

Pete: oh,

Sidey: I like discovery. There's so loads of stuff now. There's,

there's lower decks

Dan: they do with the pork? I don't,

Sidey: They just kind like they brought this other species in. It was better than yeah, there's, I mean, where'd you start? I mean, you just

Dan: I dunno.

I mean is there a good place that would get me into it if you were gonna sell me

Sidey: Well, you probably, you'll probably like the more modern stuff now, cuz

it just looks more

Dan: modern.

Pete: the new films are good.

Sidey: The Films

are good.

Just, just watch Discovery. You might enjoy

that

Dan: I did like the JJ Abraham's films that we,

Sidey: yeah, okay.

Dan: Oh, I really liked them. I thought they were, they were

entertaining you know,

Sidey: We need to put some in our,

Dan: for the purists,

Sidey: list. What are you going for, Pete?

Pete: it was my first shout and it's got a lot of love on, on Twitter, so I've gotta go Galaxy Quest.

Sidey: Chris, I guess as you only nominated one, you're gonna put in the Armageddon music video.

Is that

Cris: right? Obs.

Sidey: Fair

enough.

Dan: choice,

Cris: A classic

Sidey: Dan,

Dan: Good choice. I, I'm gonna go with the, the crew out there, cuz I did have it down on my list as well and it is Red Dwarf.

Sidey: Okay, nice. I'll put in I attempted to go Flesh Gordon, but I'm actually gonna put in the right stuff.

Dan: Yeah, nice.

Sidey: an Epic.

it's like a three hour epic and then something from the twitterverse.

Poor. I dunno. What do you think?

Pete: Maybe let res have one next week.

Sidey: Okay,

Pete: or or let him, let him suggest one and then roll it out and put something else

Sidey: in. Yeah. Good decision.

Dan: I've really perked up after that cheese.

Pete: Mm.

Dan: You've given me something there that's a mix between battery acid and Crack.

Sidey: There's still one cheese that we've not even taken out of this wrapper.

Dan: Do we have We have cheese. Do we have cheese notes?

Pete: We don't have cheese notes.

No, it's not. This isn't from the official delivery, although half of the cheese here is provided by the same vendor. But we've got a really strong cheeseboard. I think tonight we've got

Sidey: an absolute winner. Yeah.

Pete: the, the absolute like bad dad's classic laal, the, like the, the triple cream soft gooey. Chris, you described it as like a warm hug.

Cris: Yes.

Pete: it

feels

Cris: like a warm hug, honestly. It's nice, soft, creamy hug is brilliant

Pete: of Beauty.

I'm gonna say something controversial. I think you could use that in desserts. I think if you had that.

Dan: Wow. I mean, we've heard a lot on this show, haven't we?

Sidey: Jesus come to your head?

Dan: that

Pete: Yeah, maybe I'm just hilarious with cheese.

We've also got a stilton, which is crumbly, but Hits, hits the mark the, the battery acid one was the form Dobe, which is a, a French blue cheese, really

Cris: bit acidic, but it was nice. Yeah,

really

Pete: good. We're obviously pairing it with toast. We're not fucking idiots. It's the only acceptable accompanying cracker, I think I'm gonna call it

Sidey: it. has, we've got another accompaniment though.

Pete: We have got another accompaniment.

Dan: in there,

Pete: and it's it's a, it's, it's a local honey, and it's called Pete's jersey honey. And we've been drizzling that on top with a spoon that

I believe has either been used in the administering of heroin or just been up a human's ass.

But it's,

Dan: well, I'll tell you what, Pete, we haven't touched the heroin. I'll leave it there. Yeah,

Pete: that's for, that's for later on. Yeah. It's a strong, strong cheeseboard and

Sidey: Well, what we mention the fourth cheese that we haven't,

Pete: Well, we haven't had it yet. It's like a, we don't even know what it's called. It's like a sort of a, an Italian like comped derivative with Ash and the morning milk and the, we've had it before.

Sidey: right. okay.

Dan: Is that a, a firma cheese?

Pete: Yeah. Yes, it is a firmer cheese. So we've gone British, Italian and French tonight on the cheese front and yeah, it's, it's a winner winner chicken dinner.

Sidey: Okay. That segues very nicely into this week's main feature, which I chose. And I, it's, this fits the proper ca you know, the, the real crux of the show and it's inter stellar.

Dan: That's a journey into space,

Sidey: Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

And I've, I missed it, so, yeah. I wanted to see it.

Pete: So you hadn't seen this?

Sidey: Nope.

Pete: So interestingly, so

Dan: sorry, this was your debut on this film.

Sidey: Yeah. So the premise of our show that we do is a film that you miss during those

that

Dan: understand. But I, this is just such a, a big film that's been out for such a long time.

I, I assumed that we'd all seen this.

Cris: Really? Yeah,

Pete: So I also hadn't seen this film, or at least I thought I hadn't until I saw the, like, the opening kind of like scenes of it and I was like, fuck, I have seen this. And I'd totally forgotten absolutely everything about it to the point where I'd have swarm blind to anyone that I'd never seen this film.

Dan: You do that a lot though.

Pete: I do do that. Yeah. It's cuz I spent too many nights in the man cave and it affects my memory.

There

Dan: You

go.

Pete: Yeah.

Dan: Well, what begins then? Can you remember that? How this,

Pete: I'll tell you what, but a bookshelf with dust on it and a little spaceship. And that is immediately as soon as I saw that, I was like, with obviously you can see the books.

And I was like, oh, that rings a bell. I wonder if this is now the film that I think that it is. And then I started remembering bits of it.

Dan: Realizing it wasn't a dream.

Pete: Wasn't a dream.

Dan: yeah, it was a film that you'd seen. And it set when the world in the not too distant

Sidey: future, 2067.

Dan: Yeah. So not too distant future. You'll all be about my age now then I

Pete: yeah.

Dan: The world is a dust bowl. Crops have packed up.

Pete: There's been, there's been blight on a lot of very prominent

Sidey: Yeah. I think They

say okra okras just gone.

Pete: Yeah.

Okra Winfrey

Dan: got, we've Yeah, that's right. Corn wheat had gone the year before, so they were drinking like corn, beer. I mean that's when you know things are getting

Cris: Yeah. It's not a good look.

Dan: So that's what they're doing on the, on the porch.

Pete: yeah. So yeah, corn is, is still still going strong, but the, the predictions are that there will be blight on corn. But not only that, because of the, the vegetation and everything on the planet, the, the environment, the atmosphere, and everything's gonna soon become unbreathable, especially because of the, this

Sidey: the

Pete: dust

Dan: blight. It's

Sidey: to you like a documentary because it is a series of talking heads and they say about how they have to set the table, where you set the table with the plates facing the wrong way so they don't get covered in dust, everything like that.

It's

Dan: oh, we've been living this way for a few years at this stage. People are well

Pete: you live like

Sidey: this

Dan: yeah, you, you've, you've seen what it's like in here, Pete. You've seen

Sidey: Look at that spoon. Look

Pete: that spoon. Yeah.

Sidey: And then there's some shots of a like a, the side panel of a spacecraft isn't there, right?

Pete: Yeah.

Sidey: I should say, I should point this out that I was away this week and I went to the Outdoor Monkeys on Friday night and that night didn't finish till 5:00 AM in the morning.

And then I woke

Pete: ah, sorry. I've gotta put you up on that. I, I, it really irritates me when people say, ah, 6:00 AM in the morning, 6:00 AM when other, oh

Sidey: Oh

God shut. So, and at 8:00 AM in the morning I watched this,

so I was a little bit fuzzy, but I, I, I was, you know, compass mentors for the most part. Yeah. Yeah.

So there's some staff about McConnell who

Dan: Yeah.

Pete: Yeah.

Sidey: And his previous flights and some,

Dan: yeah. He,

Sidey: sort of,

Dan: he was a big deal back in the day when the world had a shot. But they've cut all these kind of programs down and they even got to the point where schools will only take the brightest of students that have got a chance to make a difference in the very limited resources they've got.

Yeah. So you're either as Casey Affleck, his son Matthew McConnell, who's son he becomes a farmer because he's

Sidey: they, they, they do these kind of like tests that we did at school where, you know, you fill out these um, I think, oh, we've got your son's you know, test resorts back. Guess what? It's gonna be a farmer.

Like

Dan: be a, yeah.

Sidey: Because everyone's just has to farm.

Dan: Yeah. If you, if you, unless you're the brains, then you, you're farming. But

Pete: well, right.

Dan: daughter Murphy has got the

Pete: Yeah.

But

we, we've.

Don't think we qualified that, that Matthew McConaughey's character, Joseph Cooper is an ex nasaa

Dan: Yeah. Coops knew his stuff back in the day.

Pete

Pete: of the best, sir.

Dan: Yeah. But that program's finished. Now the, the world is,

Pete: So he, he, they're now living on a farm. They're farming corn and yeah. That, that seems to be the,

Sidey: he's prospect for everybody. He's

kind of solo parenting. He's, there's a grandfather.

Pete: Yeah. The, the, the wife had died a couple of years before

Sidey: She'd had a,

Dan: probably from the air, and I think she had some kind of respiratory problems

Sidey: but Yeah. But John Lith goes on hand to help out provide some wisdom. But Merf, they, they keep referring to her as Merf, the daughter. And she kind of sees a few things going on. Like some things fall down or there's something going on and she refers to them as

Pete: Well, it's specifically in this, in this library room that they have in the house.

So there's books that have fallen from the shelves over over time. She's, you know, she thinks it's ghosts. Um,

Sidey: Else like get

it like straight away.

Dan: Well get pos

Pete: get it straight away. What? You got the film immediately? I

Sidey: like, it's plainly gonna be like either

Pete: some sort of code or something like that.

Right.

So

Dan: anyway, so these books are starting to fall and around this same time Michael Kane's been in touch and he's, he's having a conversation with Matthew McConnell, who about a program that's going on.

Pete: No, none of that's happened yet. So, so

Cris: I was saying, did I

Pete: yeah, yeah, yeah. So not

Sidey: You did This

last week where you, we went halfway into the

film,

Dan: I?

Sidey: Yeah, No, because

Pete: So tell tell you it, it's worth, it's worth re retracting. Like backtracking on, on what you just said there, Dan. So basically what, what becomes apparent is that, is that murf because smart, smart little critter as she is, has decided to, to at least kind of like test the theory that the, there's a possibility that these, that the books falling from the shells and so on are in fact a message.

And she's singing. What kind of message could it be? Could potentially be morse code. So where there's like one book comes out that's your, your your dot. And where two or three come out, that's your dash puts it together. It doesn't necessarily make a great deal of sense. Apart from, and then she shows it to her dad and they deduc it.

It's a possibility it could be coordinates. So they then go, right, let's get in the, in the truck in the dead of the night for some reason and drive to these coordinates. So that's where they, they drive and eventually they come across like a fence where, right, where the coordinates are, have led them to.

And just as they're like looking at, they're about to like break in. They, they've got some like wire cutters or whatever, all of a sudden some lights, like big flashlights come on. I think they, they sedate Joseph Cooper and yeah, they do. And then drive his truck with Murf in it, into this like, you know, facility or whatever.

When Cooper comes round, he's being confronted by Anne Hathaway. Who is a

Dr. Brand.

Yeah. And she pretty quickly lets him know that, look, he's not in any danger, but what the hell are you doing here? This is a totally like double, triple, top secret facility like NASA facility. He wants, obviously he wants to know where his daughter is.

And he, she's like, look, she's quite safe. You come with me, they go into this big kind of like, almost like boardroom, like war room type thing. And there's a load of like, you know, sort of like highfalutin people there. And one of them is recognizable to

Cris: Dan,

Pete: and it's, no, it is not Dan. It is Dr.

Brown Senior, which is Michael

Dan: It's Michael Kane.

Well, that's what I said, wasn't it?

Pete: Yeah. Apart from when you skipped all the bit that led them to that, which was fairly, fairly relevant.

Sidey: I think it's, he now he tells 'em that this is nasa, this is what's left of nasa and they're, they're sort of patching together remnants of an old spacecraft.

Pete: Yeah, well they do seem to have like limitless like resources because the in, as you soon find out when, so there's a big kind of like,

Sidey: it's a coverup

Pete: kind of,

You know, of of why they're there and, and what's going on and so on. But essentially Michael Kane's character, Dr. Brown Sr. Is a astrophysicist who has been doing like calculations on, on gravity and so on.

And he through this program has, has been working out whether or not there are planets potentially within the universe that are accessible that could sustain life so that humans on this dying earth can relocate somewhere. And they believe they've identified three planets that are candidates for this sort of mission

Sidey: I think it's here that he tells them that the, the, there's a scientist working on the corn. He is like, that crop's fucked as well. So we need, we need to

expedite this.

Pete: Yeah. see all your corn, that's gonna go as well. There is no future here. It's gonna be up in the stars

Sidey: Yeah.

Pete: What they, what he does also present to him is that, you know, near, I wanna say Jupiter

Sidey: again Yeah. I think it was yeah, I

Pete: it was Jupiter similar to the, our, our midweek.

But there's a wormhole

Cris: Saturn.

Pete: It could be Saturn, in fact. Yeah, yeah, sure. Saturn. But yeah, they're next to each other, like, give or take. And but there's a wormhole that is, is now visible that shows a, a window to a, a much further sort of like reaching part of the galaxy. And through this wormhole there are three potential planets that other people have been to, you know, gone out on missions to, to investigate.

And

Cris: I'm pretty sure there was 12,

Pete: Oh, maybe there were 12, but I think maybe three that were viable.

Cris: they had 12,

Dan: right. They,

Cris: but they were, they only got three or four right signals back.

They, yeah.

Pete: go. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

Dan: And, and then they, they're in the ship and they have to make the call

Cris: This is another one. They actually kind of go quite quickly. He gets convinced. He goes back home Murf cries, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, I'm going, I'm going. She has this just go leave

Sidey: than that. He has to,

Pete: well, it is. He's gotta leave his

Sidey: he knows he won't see 'em

Pete: fairly young sort of son and daughter Yeah. Who have already lost their mother.

Sidey: know that. So the planets that they're investigating, they know are orbiting. A black hole. Yeah. And they know that going through a wormhole. I think someone explains it by folding a piece of paper.

Pete: Yeah. Well they, that's exactly what they do in Event Horizon, before I started getting

Sidey: upset.

And so when you're talking about science fiction, this is probably the most sciencey fiction film out there that I can think of. Yeah. And there's a whole raft of like physicists who back up the science in this, that although some of it's obviously gonna be theoretical, that it's actually very, very backed by, you know, Brilliant

minds

Pete: they're trying to work within the confines of what we actually know.

Sidey: and the point about that is that McConnell, he knows that when he goes off the, the time, the re cause it's relativity, right? So the, the amount of time that he spends compared to the amount of time back home is, you know, a minute. There is 10 years here and all

Pete: yeah. yeah.

Sidey: Yeah. So, so he knows that when he goes off to potentially save humanity, he will almost certainly never see his

Dan: Well, well, he says at one point, I think to, to merf. Who knows, we might be the same age when I get back. And so that obviously upsets her where it's kind of weird and he thinks it might be exciting. And later on down the line as it transpires, they, they're away so long, he's watching the videos back. I mean, that's an another scene, but and she has her birthday when he was her age, doesn't she?

And when Yeah. They're the same age. Yeah.

Sidey: the first video message that she gets around to sending him is when they are the same age.

Dan: That's right.

Pete: is obviously a lot of, a lot of years have have transcribed, but there's, there's quite a bit of stuff that goes on. Yeah. Before that, I mean,

Cris: well now we're basically, when they go into space,

Pete: they go, they're going into space.

So it's Cooper, it's Dr. Brand Jr. The Anne Hathaway's character. It's a guy called Roly and a guy called Doyle.

Cris: And

the two robots.

Pete: and the two robots who are called.

Dan: tars and,

Pete: Tars and something else. Stars cars or sars or something,

Sidey: something

Pete: like that.

But they're quite

Cris: one is more, the second one is more normal.

The

case.

yeah. Case

Pete: and, and Tars are we saying? Yeah. And they're, they're pretty useful. Those, those robots. So they're very versatile. They're waffly versatile.

Dan: don't understand why they didn't just send them out on the big wet planet that they go to because they have to go and find, this is the first planet.

So they've decided in this to make a call. They've got three possible planets. And well, it, it is just shit luck. They went and chose the worst one first, it seems, because they go down

Sidey: good surf,

Dan: Great surf. They go down onto a, a blue planet, which is covered in about a foot of water until it's covered in waves, 200

Pete: Well, th this, this is, so I think when you, when you first sort of arrive in the orbit of this plant, you look, you know, they come through down through the clouds and everything and then you see water. And it wasn't immediately apparent to me that the water is shallow, but they, they land and there's only about a foot of water there.

So they go off and they immediate, cuz there's a beacon from the previous like scientists that's gone up there. So they immediately find the, the beacon and some wreckage and so on. And what they're saying is that because of the time relativity, it would've only been minutes like before that that person would've arrived on there.

And that's why the wreckage was easily, it was still within the same kind of like vicinity. So the, the, the

Cris: but for them it takes seven years.

Pete: Yeah. So the, the scientist had, had only recently died, but it becomes apparent whilst they're trying to recover some of this, this wreckage and the beacon and everything, that the reason why the water is like ridiculously shallow there is cuz they're in the middle of a whatever, what's it called?

Like a.

Sidey: tsunami?

Pete: Well, yeah, when the water like withdraws

Sidey: because of

Pete: great big, the biggest fuck off wave you've ever seen. Bigger than the one in point break at the end. Yeah. Is, is coming into, is coming into view. And they manage to just about get to the ship. The, the tars goes out and does that cool kind of thing where it like has like three spinning legs and

Dan: they drop something and then Tars goes to make easy work and just gonna pick it up and roll back in.

You think should have done that in the first place. But anyway they've lost valuable minutes

Cris: and also the other guy dies.

Doyle

Pete: Yeah. That Doyle doesn't make it back into the, into the ship

Sidey: is Anne Hathaway the stalls. She, she, she wants to get the data and he's like, no fucking leave it. And she's trying to wrestle it away.

And the, the other fellow dies. He gets smashed by way. I think they hit one way first and they do kind of surf it. Yes. And then when, you know, once she is back in the ship, she's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And they've co it's cost them 23 years.

Pete: it has cost them 23 years. They make it back off the planet.

And this was like, quite like jarring when they get back to, to their, to, to their ship. And Romley who's been waiting for them, has been waiting 23 years. I mean, he's had a couple of STTs of like, you know, cryo sleep. But I mean he's like a much older dude now and, and that, that's quite fucking scary.

And it's, and it's at this point that they start reviewing the, the messages from, from back home. Cause they can't transmit anything back, but they can receive stuff. Right. And this is where he sees his son, who's now grown up and is now played by Casey Affleck and he's, you know, trying to sort of be positive, but is saying, look, I dunno if you're ever reading the, like, listening to this

Dan: or he's getting nothing back.

Pete: not going to.

He talks about like a he's met a girl then he has a kid. Unfortunately it sounds like, you know, the kid is, is like succumbeded to another, like a respiratory illness and, and not made it. And then. Eventually you get the, the, the message back from, from Murphy's daughter who is like, look, this is my first communication to you.

She's still got the hump that he, he abandoned her, but she's like, I'm now the same age as you were. Yeah, yeah. Same age as you. You are so yeah, 23 years on. She's,

Dan: it is an emotional scene to be

Pete: Really?

Is McConnell McConnell, who's acting here, is fucking brilliant

Sidey: Yeah. because

Pete: he, he's just acting, seeing a, a, you know, some footage and so on, and it's just him and the camera and it's like, The emotion on, in his face and the, like, the torment and everything.

And you know, he, he knows why he is doing this, but it, it's costing him so much personally at the same time. But yeah, that's I think they deduce that they've only got one more chance in order for them to make it back in a, in, within sort of meaningful, meaningful time, they can only investigate one more of the, the two options.

Dan: And Hathaway has a fellow on one of the planets. Yeah. One of the, but there's another planet. They're getting good signals from. The, the best of the best guy has Yeah. Is on there. So they, they decide to go

Pete: Is is Dr. Mann? And, and they, because they're, they're, they're basically weighing it up. I think they're getting better information from the, the, the one that her

Cris: wolf has been

1. Wolf something.

Pete: Wolf. Yeah. Yeah. But but because Dr. Mann is, they, they sort of credit him and say, look, none of us would be out here if it wasn't for Dr. Man. Which doesn't seem to be like the best rational way of making the decision because, you know, he just, these, these

Dan: they're in different places

Pete: Yeah. They're all in different places and so on.

But they

Sidey: also get more and more flashes back to earth and MERF has become a scientist and she's working with brand Sr. Yeah. And on his deathbed, he gives the absolutely pleasing news that he lied he hadn't solved the

Pete: Yeah. And and is nowhere near doing well. He's been doing it for 40 years.

Yeah.

Sidey: And he's actually just sent them off with some pre fertilized eggs. Yeah. To start a colony somewhere habitable.

Pete: So, so the mission was not actually for the whole of the earth because we didn't say it at the beginning, but this, this like facility that they've been working from, this secret facility actually doubles up as a space station.

It's got a centrifuge in it and they can, like, he's talking about how we're gonna jet us in it

Sidey: and,

Pete: you know, taking off people and things with us to be able to go and colonize elsewhere. But, but yeah, lies, lies from tiny eyes

Dan: Well, he, he's doing that I guess, to keep panic from erupting in the world because while there's some hope and they think that people are working for it, they're not totally you know, crushing any hope of anybody solving it.

Which is just as well.

Pete: Yeah. But they go to the second planet, they choose Dr. Mann's planet. And you know, by this time, I mean basically Anne Hathaway's character, her reason for wanting to go to the other planet is cuz she's horny and her fellas there.

Yeah. But they, they,

Dan: Well, that's kind of what they put it down to.

At one point they're, they sort of say, look, would you rather go to that island? Is it because you are, you are. No, let's, and they talk themselves out of going for that because of that factor.

Pete: there is this sort of like ongoing dilemma with, with him and with her.

Cuz obviously she wants to go there cuz her fells there. But he wants to just get everything done as quickly as possible. Like the best chance so that he can get back and have some chance of seeing his children who are gonna both be older than him by the time he gets back.

Dan: That's right. So it, it seemed a little bit wasn't it very close? They were worried here about the, the planet being very close to the, the black hole and where there would be enough power, but they, they make it down there anyway and they

Pete: Matt Damon,

Dan: Mr.

Man,

Sidey: they

Pete: find Matt Damon there.

Cris: Well, I have to say, I, I dunno. I, I'm, I'm not necessarily the most you know, I'm not an expert or I, I've watched enough films in my life. I dunno how many bad guy roles he's had, but this is definitely not one of the good guys.

not. This is not,

Sidey: no, he's, he's

bullshitted.

Cris: This is not the talent of Mr. Ripley here.

Pete: Yeah, no, he's, he's a bit of a rotter. But again, I mean, if you're trying to put yourself in the, like the mental kind of state of these people, I mean, I don't know how long he's been there in like his time or whatever.

He's not an old guy or anything. He's still a middle-aged guy, so I'm assu, it's Matt Damon. But so anyway, he, they, they, they basically revive him from cryo sleep. He's got a, another robot similar to tars and

Dan: you've had a few cryo sleeps in

Pete: Yeah. A cryo myself to sleep a few times, but So he's, he's had a robot that's been like, you know, decommissioned and is like now sort of like, just sat there.

But he's the, I dunno if it was lots of people on this mission or just himself, but he's the only, he's the only one that's, that's there and he's kind of like overwhelmed to see like another, another face.

Dan: Well, we, we learned that there were a few other people, but he's gone, rogue man's gone rogue. He's, he's got just that fear

Sidey: Well, he sent out, he sent out comms to say that the, the hap the planet is

habitable It is,

not,

And, he just wants someone to come and

Pete: Well, what what he does is he says that there's a, because as you come onto this planet, there's like ice clouds like hanging in the sky. And then as you come into it, the hole is just t arctic tundra. But he says that there's a surface.

And even though it's like, you know, totally inhospitable up here on the ice, that the, the, the surface itself is,

Dan: oh, it sound it's like a paradise down there.

Yeah. So he,

Pete: he takes Cooper out on like a field trip to, to find the surface, but. Actually that that's all

Dan: he tries to smash his

Pete: gonna fuck it. He's gonna like chalk him off a cliff, really?

He, he takes out his like, transmitter and says, look, this, this is just basically a rescue mission. I, I lied about the data so that you come and so that someone could come and get me from this fucking hell hole. And so, yeah, they, they have a, they, they have a tussle back at the, the, the base on this planet Roly is investigating.

He boots up the, the robot and it's so, and I, I can't remember exactly why, but there's an explosion that that detonates and, and blows up roly. So he's now, he waited around on a ship for 23 years and now he is been blown to fuck. So he's not had the best time. But there's but man still had a, a small like, you know, ranger ship that, that he'd used that, that he had on the surface.

So he tries escaping it in, in, in there, in. Cooper and brand ship, but they get in man's ship and he's making it back to the endurance, I

Sidey: think

Pete: it is, is is the main ship. And as man gets to the ship, they're radioing him because they're saying, look, you don't know the, the docking sequence. It, it's like super complicated.

You're gonna fuck this in the air if, if you, if

Cris: you, and the autopilot has been disabled by Tars.

Pete: Yeah.

So that effectively unfolds. He, he thinks he's docked, but it's, it's not quite latched on. And then eventually it comes to, and they're, they're warning him, but he's now so desperate to, to just get back to try and get back to earth or whatever.

The when he opens the, the airlock

Sidey: kablamo there,

Pete: there's another explosion, which destroys the ranger and takes out a few of the, the pods that are on this endurance on endurance ship and sends it into a big old fucking tailspin.

Yeah.

Dan: Well done man. Like he just ruined his legacy there.

Pete: you know, desperation and so on.

Dan: Yeah, well they are in desperate straits now. And they're, they're spinning around.

Pete: This is a cool bit. This is a cool bit cuz, cuz what effect Cooper has to do is in his ranger, He has to now match the, the, like, the velocity of the spin of endurance and do a, I mean this, this

Sidey: stocking.

Pete: yeah.

He has what? Docking look it up kids. He has yeah, matched the, the, like, the rotation of, of endurance, which is spinning out of control in order. I mean, this docking sequence seems fucking difficult anyway, let alone when you have to do it, when it's like spinning it, you know,

Cris: And also that's where, where tars and the other one come into play because they've got such a good yeah.

Understanding of how they should operate this ship and how

Dan: this is

all the ai, which. Obviously if we are ever truly going to explore the, the universe, that is gonna be a big part of it. And it makes you think, like from obviously 2010 when we watched the, the midweek or in 2001, which we've talked a lot about from those early understandings of ai.

It's gonna be crazy. Like all the film's gonna be coming out now and how much, you know, almost they prophesized a lot of what we're we're seeing.

Pete: Well, this could all unfold. Yeah. But they make it back onto the endurance. He, he does the, the, the docking sequence. It gets back onto the ship. So now you just have brand Cooper and the, the robots one robot.

I dunno

Sidey: it's just tars. It was both of them were

Pete: Both. Oh yes they are. Cuz they go independent. Yeah.

Sidey: they go all Apollo 13, now they're gonna have to perform a slingshot maneuver.

That's how, that's, they don't have the fuel. It always seems to happen in the space. They run outta

Pete: always

Dan: always going for the old

Pete: Always having to do

Sidey: they're gonna use the

Dan: orbit of the moon or the

Sidey: no, the black hole.

They're gonna, they're gonna launch it at the black

Pete: Well, they're gonna go up to the horizon of the black hole and use like the energy to then like propel the Yeah. The ship, the, like, the endurance back on it, on its trajectory to the, to the wormhole

Sidey: But there's get, back

Pete: to earth.

Sidey: there's the two crafts,

Pete: ah, sorry. Not to get back to earth, to get to the other shit. They, they realize they can't go back to to earth, but they can make it to the other planet where

Sidey: the horny fella?

Pete: the horny fella is at Wolfie.

Sidey: But they're gonna have the two craft attached docked to the. Endurance. Endurance. And they are gonna have to sacrifice tars.

Yeah. Right.

Pete: Yeah, no,

Cris: the

other one.

Sidey: sars. Cars.

cars cars. case.

Cris: Yeah. Case.

Pete: Case.

Sidey: And they're like, it's okay. He, like, he'll be able to collect some actual useful data from going

Pete: Yeah. Be

Sidey: beyond the veil into the event horizon or whatever. And at least that's what we're told. And so the, the maneuver is performed and the jettison case in that craft down.

And and then he just like basically drops the bomb to Dr. Brand and Hathaway to say you'll be fine. Like, you'll, you'll, you'll be do great. He's like, what? It's like we both can't go like, is this not, it's not possible. And huge blood fest. And he, he has to like eject his craft and go

into the black holes

Dan: into the uh,

Pete: her and, and disappears into, into the black

Dan: Into the black hole. Then it gets really kind of freaky because he goes into this like four D

Sidey: five d I

Dan: of five D is

Sidey: tesseract?

Pete: five dimensional tesser act.

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah.

Dan: And and that's basically a massive jigsaw puzzle, which he finds himself

Sidey: Well, he loves these Nolan, doesn't he?

His face

Dan: and, and all these Yeah.

Memories seem to be between the threads as he eventually slows down.

Pete: It's like moments in time

Dan: and he's able to find one where Murphy is in that room, which opens at, and he's in the library and he's the one pushing the books through to pass the message on. Yeah.

Of,

Sidey: getting very emotional again, brilliant. From McConaughey where he is screaming at her, like,

don't

Pete: let him leave yet.

Which is him. He's

Sidey: he's watching himself. leave and like, it's a mistake. Don't do it.

Dan: Well, the message that is decoded as stay, which is one of the, the messages Yeah. Before he goes. Yeah. It's obviously him having

Pete: Yeah. Bec because all the while, and we haven't really dealt with the stuff that's going on on earth and it's, it's not, you know, there's not a great deal happening.

But Murph's kind of like, you know, reengaged with, with her brother Casey Affleck and his family, he's got a wife and a daughter or son, I can't remember which, but son. And the son has this like, serious sort of illness that's been brought on

Cris: the wife as well.

Pete: Yeah. And

You know, she recognizes the, and she's, she's now sort of buddied up with a, another scientist from the, from the NASA facility.

But Casey Affleck is, Murphy's son is not having any of it. He wants to just stay on the farm and, and, you know, KO's gonna be their future and everything, but she knows that it's, it's completely, she, you know, she's had the information

Dan: got inside information. Yeah.

Pete: So what, what she does in order to, to distract her brother is, is set off a fire in the cornfield whilst they then try and get the, the, the rest of the family out.

Cuz he, he's not having any of it. But at that time she goes back into the room, into the library and sees the, the bits of hits. She, she gets the spaceship that it's like the little,

Sidey: the landing

Pete: the landing pod. Yeah. Puts it on the, on the bookshelf. And then at that point in time, she's, she's just going over the old information and the old like journals that she has looking at the messages.

And that's when. Murphy

Sidey: Frog, it's effectively, they're able to, to communicate via gravity. Interdimensionally Yeah. Is the theory that they posit in the film.

Dan: and, and through that they're able to send out a code through the second hand of a watch that she picks up that he left her and she looked at it.

And it's not ticking regularly. It's not going

Cris: No, it's just pulsating

Pete: Well, it's, it's the information that, that Tars has, has

Sidey: gleaned Yeah.

Pete: from having gone through the black hole. I can't remember. Does he just, how does he communicate it to

Sidey: thumb Drive,

Pete: Right?

Cris: No. Is the fifth is the fifth is like the,

Dan: No, he, he's get, yeah, he's getting

Cris: unit. And this day they, these, they made this, they, so, so it's almost like a, he he gets fed this information.

Yeah. By, they, by basically

future humans.

Just Almost kind of planned that for him

Dan: But in the tesser rack at one point he does have a, a conversation with case, I think, doesn't he? Is it Tars or Case, whichever one of those goes in.

Pete: Yeah. The one that observes the, the, the

Dan: So he is able to get that information and he, he gets it out to her.

Absolutely. We know that

Sidey: says, can you Trinity broadcast it in Morse

Pete: Yeah. And he does that

Dan: and she recognizes this. And then you know, a

Sidey: it solves, solves, yeah.

Literally says that, doesn't she? She solves the formula that Dr. S senior had been working on and then just recklessly, fucking throws it. Like, you know, over the balcony.

it's all

Dan: up there.

It's done now. It, it's in the bag.

Sidey: It's a big fucking thing. It's like,

Cris: Yeah. I, I didn't, I mean, I know it's a, it's a, oh, it's a, I

Sidey: she said it's

a

Pete: eureka moment. Yeah. But, and she snugs the, the fella that's, that's the other scientist guy. Yeah. And then Murphy, kind of, Murphy, sorry, Cooper, like just lets himself drift off to, in like

Sidey: when it goes like, inception, doesn't it, it kind of, you know, the, the Dream one, the Nolan film. Yeah. But the Nolan Sisters where it kind of like starts folding in on itself.

Yeah. And you think, oh, well now he's this where he dies. Yeah. But no,

he he comes too. And

Pete: yeah, he, he wakes up. And, and he's in a, a hospital bed and he's been found just floating through space by Rangers.

And because of the information he's provided, these, you know, this, either this facility is launched or whatever, but now they are up in space and, you know,

Cris: and they found him with very little oxygen left, just few minutes left or something like that, obviously.

Pete: Yeah. Which was lucky. But he's, he's told that his, his daughter is, is on, on her way.

She's a couple of weeks out from, from coming up to this space station and

Cris: which is a cool, it's a cool thing when he, when he wakes up in hospital and then he opens up the curtains, then there's just outside the window, there's some kids playing baseball, obviously America.

Woohoo. And and then he looks up and it's, it's almost, you can see that it's

Pete: yeah, I got one of these inverted,

Cris: it's bass station. So, so, you know, and, and when the guy hits the, the ball with a baseball. Goes up and it goes into someone's roof. Like

Sidey: Yeah. Which seems like really poor design.

Cris: I thought so too.

Sidey: Yeah. To put the baseballs diamond there.

Pete: Yeah. You'd put some sort of roof or dome or something on it to prevent like the, like missile.

I mean, they've had, humans have had a tough enough time as it is without baseballs flying

Cris: That's, that's, I, I, I found quite a cool thing. And then when he walks outside he, he's like, oh, let me show you around while you wait for your daughter.

And then it's called the Cooper Station.

Sidey: Alright. He named it after me. Difficult man.

Pete: They're like actually this is a bit awkward, but it's named after your daughter who like basically saved humanity.

Sidey: you gave all the information to.

Pete: Yeah.

Cris: Although she says you always played the part or something like that, but he's like,

Pete: oh yeah. He, he went through

Sidey: he literally did the whole thing. He's

Pete: He's been through a fucking black hole

Dan: I think at one stage when they do have this reunion, she's got all the family around and, and she says, like, I tried to tell him, you know, it was, it was you that gave me the information, or I, I got it for a watch, or,

Pete: Yeah, yeah, yeah,

Dan: it was this kind of thing. And they were like, yeah, okay, but you've saved the world.

And she has done it.

Cris: say though, at the end, she's on the, almost like what it looks like her deathbed. Yeah. Her dad's 123 years old. He looks like he's 43 and she has like a million kids and grandkids and everything. This, it looks

Sidey: like yeah, many people the whole extended family's

Dan: she's already suffered and,

Cris: she's like Bob

Dan: mourned for, for her dad, isn't she?

She's so when she sees him finally it, it's like, go on, crack on and do your own thing after

Pete: Well, yes. It's way more emotional than you, than you are

Dan: it is wife

Pete: it, Dan, I mean, yeah, she's in her looks into being in her eighties or nineties or whatever. She is kind of like, on her deathbed, but she's surrounded by her new family at i e.

You know, her kids, grandkids, great-grandchildren, whatever. There's a, there's a whole kind of like, you know, it looks like my fucking in house. And

Dan: it's a lot of hangers on, isn't it? She saved the world. There's a lot of hangers on.

Cris: It's like Bob Marley

Dan: are just,

Pete: Yeah, yeah, So, but what she suggests is that, you know, brand has made it to this planet brand junior Aunt Hathaway has made it to this planet.

And look, if, if you get in this, like we've got, we've got a little ranger for you here, if you get in and you can go and see her and then it cuts to brand. The daughter on this planet. She's got a little grave memorial thing for her fella, the scientist who, who was the first one on that planet.

And then you see the, I mean, I don't, I, I wasn't, I wasn't sure if you were meant to think that that's the first time that she removes her helmet. I mean, you'd think that she would've tried that before, or at least found out before that the air is

Sidey: breathable. Yeah. she,

Pete: anyway, artistic life, whatever, she, she takes her, her helmet off and there's a little pause and then she breathes the air.

Yeah. And

Cris: on this planet. Yeah.

Pete: On this planet, on this, this new planet. And that's the one that, that McConnell who's heading to.

And they all lived

Sidey: get horny. Yeah. Yeah. And that is it. That is it. It's a bit like Captain America, the first avenger at the end there with the. Peggy Carter, and you know,

Pete: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cris: Was someone pegging

Pete: can see

Sidey: Yes. Peggy. That's, That's

the usual content I watch online.

Pete: I, what I would like to say, I'd like to congratulate us for getting through that fairly quickly. And it's a fucking complicated film, and I was, I feared that this was gonna be one that like, tied us up in knots or whatever, but I'd like to think we managed that,

Sidey: I think we did. Okay. I think we did. Okay. There were some kind of rules that they had. Dr. Kipp Thorn I think was the, is the stories based on his work. And there were two guidelines that they had to strictly follow. They, they could not violate established physical laws and any of the then wild speculation would ha have to be, come from science, not from creative minds of screenwriters.

So any of the story elements

had to be based on like,

Dan: Actual possibilities in

Sidey: Scientific theory or, or

Dan: make them much more interesting. And given how crazy it actually is, are some of these theories that we live in like a multiverse or there is, you know,

Cris: yeah. Warm holes in black holes

Dan: molds and all that, we've got enough to, to play with there

Pete: But bec what I will, what I will say, even though I had seen this film before, I totally forgot everything about it. Watching it the second time enjoy, like basically enjoying it like it was for the first time I had, I remembered bits of it, but, so the, the, the fifth dimensional sort of tesser Act thing, that was

for me. I couldn't get my head around how that could ever be kind of conceivable or whatever, but

doing a little bit of like, research about it. So expert, independent, kind of like scientific and you know, like experts for the finest minds have, have looked at this and said that the two most improbable things within the film, first, first and foremost, with the ice clouds saying that, that that is just impossible on, in, in any like, law to, to be able to exist.

And secondly was how quickly the Earth's atmosphere would become unbreathable when, you know, as a result of blight effectively. They said that, that that was far too accelerated, but the, the tesseract bit and, you know, go at people saying that because of the lack of knowledge and understanding of what would happen within a black hole.

And so, and it's like that's just as probable and realistic within the laws

Dan: It's feasible with,

Pete: anything, as anything anyone else could come up with. So,

Dan: yeah.

Sidey: It's the black hole stuff though. I just, I can't

Pete: No.

Sidey: Get my head around

that. The,

Pete: I wouldn't want to try.

Sidey: Just the how. It takes an infinite amount of time to cross the horizon.

Yeah. But a person watching it would take like, I don't know.

Pete: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's not try and, and

Sidey: Yeah. Do you wanna, do you want me to link this to pornography?

Pete: please. Yes, please. That's where it all ends up.

Sidey: Doc, Dr. Kip Thorn. He won a bet with Stephen Hawking. It was an astrophysics bet. And,

Dan: this sounds horny.

Cris: I was gonna say.

That sounds,

Sidey: well, it's

in the movie Theory of everything. As a consequence, Hawking had to subscribe to Penthouse Magazine for a year. Really? So that's interesting, isn't it?

Cris: Who ranked him with,

Sidey: his nurse? I think he's

married her. Okay. Yeah.

Pete: Excellent.

Cris: Any other facts?

Sidey: Yes. Les Pornography, but originally it was Steven Spielberg who was attached to direct this.

I don't think it would've been anywhere near as good if Spielberg had directed it.

Dan: Well, it, it, for me, this is a really modern masterpiece in sci-fi. I, I think this is it just plays with all these theories that are true that you could say. Well, why not? To, to a lot of it. And the acting is fantastic. Yeah. McConaughey is, you know, really on top form is you've got a fantastic supporting cast from, from John Lithgo, Katie Affleck.

Sidey: Little Timmy Shalls in this, he's the young Casey Affleck. Yeah.

Dan: and and that it sets so kind of near into the future there's a real environmental lesson in everything that I always think is important in films when you're taking on the big issues to have some purpose and some kind of reason and guide to his right.

Well, that's why that went wrong, because we, we can easily switch off. Well,

Pete: I think we've got three fans definitely here, but I think the real kind of acid test here is our sci-fi hating space journey. Like naysayer, naysayer,

Cris: I,

I don't hate it.

Pete: Mr. Mr. Benter

Cris: I don't hate space movies. I just don't really enjoy them.

Sidey: What about

this one? did

Cris: do you feel

Pete: about, I did say to you that this is it, it's

Cris: I enjoyed, I enjoyed the story. I enjoyed the story. I enjoy the, the, the of the whole mathematics of it as much as obviously I don't understand it. I, I enjoy the, the, the acting. The acting I thought was, was. Brilliant. I enjoy the bits of humor with how much humor do you have?

35.

I

Pete: Oh yeah. Yeah. With the

Cris: truth. All that with the robots. I thought that was actually quite cool

Dan: there was some gallows humor in

Cris: be a little bit funny rather than just everyone being so sad because we're all gonna die. But I still is moving space.

Sidey: space.

Cris: I dunno. It's,

Dan: Yeah.

Cris: listen, I enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it. And for a movie to be two and a half hours and for me to say is I've been two and a half hours and I've actually, although I did fall asleep twice

Dan: It's, it's one of those movies.

I find that watching it again when you know kind of what's

Sidey: I don't know

Dan: you're listening to a, I've, I've seen this. This will be the, the third or fourth time mode I've seen it, I think, and it hasn't been out what say 10 years? Less than 10 years. So I've watched it every couple of years since it's been out or so.

And yeah, I, it

Cris: you ask me my, my acid test, if you wanna call it, I expected a total shit show. I, I thought this is gonna be terrible and I kind of enjoyed it.

So I can't

Dan: Okay. High praise.

Pete: a, that's a ringing endorsement. I can't believe that. I'd forgotten that I'd seen this film when when it's a fucking stellar interstellar film.

Sidey: Big, big win. Big big win at the box. Office 1 65 m budget.

Yeah, Anyone who, who's gonna get closest to its box, office hall,

Cris: three

Pete: sixty five hundred?

Dan: Yeah, I, I would say it's, it's broken records. More than 500

Cris: Really?

Sidey: Well, 773 ems.

Yeah. That's a lot of ems. We should mention the score hands,

inma frame score. It's fucking exceptional. Yeah.

Dan: mean that's, yeah. You know, three quarters of a billion dollars for a return on a film.

Sidey: a film. That's incredible. Like, it's not a gi like you have to work

hard. when you're

Pete: so much can go wrong with, with a film like that and, and the portrayal of everything and

Sidey: but just for the audience, it's, it's not like a you gotta be switched on. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? So I think, yeah,

Dan: yeah, it's the, it's the kind of equivalent of a, a book you need to have the music off and in a quiet room to concentrate, to enjoy, to re you know, so you, you are concentrating on it rather than

Like films you've watched this week, Pete, pirates of the Caribbean, and you'll just have on and you'll

Pete: mean, it's not as good as Pirates of the Caribbean.

Let's, let's get that right. But yeah, it's still a, it's a

It's still a

Sidey: a, it's a strong recommend. More cerebral sci-fi stuff with our kids show.

Dan: Yeah,

Sidey: That I nominated the

Dan: me George Jetson.

Sidey: Yeah. We actually watched this, well, 75% of us tonight here just before we recorded. And

Dan: 25

Sidey: ethically long minutes. Yeah. minutes

Pete: now. I thought no. One of, one of your. Access to grind with the kids stuff side is, is people who make you watch more than 10 minutes of shit.

Yeah.

Sidey: I

thought this was gonna be 10 minutes

Pete: Well,

Dan: I did.

Pete: You, you had, you should have done your research person, cuz this is 25 minutes long and mostly, now I didn't watch this.

Sidey: a lot longer. I have to say.

Pete: I didn't watch this episode. I just, we you sent a link and I just thought, yeah, it'll be episode one.

So I watched 13 minutes of episode one and then I got the memo that it was episode four and the 13 minutes that felt like 13 hours of the episode that I watched was enough to dissuade me from ever watching anymore again. If you the Jetsons, I would've, I have seen it before, obviously, and I thought that I would remember it fondly as soon as it.

Like came up on screen, I was like, F fly signs Flinn. Signs flinn. It's the flint signs, Flinn signs in space. It's just the same shy but in space,

Sidey: but no, I, it was good. I, I honestly thought that it would be half decent

And

it was such a, like, appalling letdown. It really was.

Pete: The canned laughter is, is weird and,

Sidey: It's really not aged well.

Dan: The best thing about it is the, the title tune and then it's rapid decline, at least the episode that we saw.

And I can't see any real glimmers of hope, but I like this as a kid, I remember. It being a show that we watched and Oh, the Jetsons is on and we stopped what we were doing to watch it.

Sidey: I think even as a kid I was like, this is just a, like this is just the Flintstones in space. Like that's all

Pete: A shit Flinstones derivative,

Sidey: but it really like appallingly bad. Really?

Jane Jetson like better looking than Wilma.

Pete: Yeah. but not Betty. Betty was,

Sidey: yeah,

Dan: that's the big question. Well, this is Hannah Baba

Cris: hair. Orange hair as well, which is quite

Sidey: yeah. Which Wilma had as well.

Cris: Look,

Pete: Yeah.

Dan: Where did that come from?

Sidey: It's the anger of

having to watch another sci-fi

Cris: with me when we watched it. What do you want me to say? Oh, it was amazing. She's, oh, she's such a cutie.

Sidey: well, right point of fact. Have we watched Hannah, Barbara, Barb, whatever the fuck

Cris: called.

Barb. Yeah. Hannah Barbera

Sidey: stuff before for the podcast, I don't think we have.

Pete: Yeah, you're trying to claw back some, like

Sidey: credibility No,

Pete: this nomination, but whether we have or not, this is still shot

Sidey: It was really bad. I

Cris: was like Yogi Bear and

Dan: So, so what, what ca We watched an episode called the Space Car. We watched it ages until there was anything to do with space because

Sidey: they went to

Pete: well, they're in space

Sidey: they went to

acquire.

They

Dan: see that it was just all fixed in a room.

Sidey: they, yeah, I think there was a problem with their car and they had to go to a dealership to get a new car and there was someone robbing the dealership and they got, there was a case of mistaken identity, which in the set in the future and all the AI and the facial recognition, you would've thought that technology

Dan: But they had that mask on and he did look a little bit like George Jetson. And there was a bit of a, I said home alone vibes going on because there was two of them bumbling around

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah. It

was a bit like that. And

Dan: it was Elmer that got the dog who was actually the big dog that he wanted. He was a real dog. They already had an AI

Pete: us relive this.

Sidey: Well, well, you can because

Dan: you only did 30 minutes. I did the full

Sidey: There was already only 24 episodes. We, so we watched the sixties one around from 62 to 63. And then in 1985 it was so good they revived it. So that's good, isn't it? It did predict the technology that would later come along.

So, they had flat screen TVs, they had newspapers on a computer, like screen computer viruses, video chat, tanning bed, and a home treadmill. All commonplace these

Cris: I like a tanning bed.

Sidey: Yeah. Do you wanna know a stat about the car and the, what? It was inspired by their actual car with the dome.

Yes. you do. Yes. Yeah.

It was a 1954 Ford concept car.

The Fs FX Atmos.

Yeah. The old Atmos? Looks a bit like

Cris: that one

Sidey: Homers. One that he

Dan: There was, there was a car, I remember when I was in Australia it was called like the stargazer or something and it was basically just domed on top

Sidey: star gaze.

Pete: Yeah.

Cris: Yeah. It's like the pulp mobile.

Dan: Something like that. Yeah,

Sidey: It was

Pete: not like the poem. I'd like to actually pull you up, Dan, on what you said about the theme shoot. I think the theme tune shit as well compared to

Dan: dad, dad, dad. No. He added a bit of, a bit of a beat to it. I felt

Pete: there's no pizazz to it or

Dan: Jetson, his wife, Judy,

definitely

Pete: not in the top 50% theme tunes of kids sing that.

We've watched this, there's loads of others that absolutely blow it out. The water. And some of them have actually saved the show. This doesn't, this theme tune

Dan: doesn't save the show.

Pete: although it did, it did actually chart the theme tune charted in the US and, and got to like number 12 or something like

Dan: I just said it's the best thing about this and then it kind of went downhill. Yeah. Is

Sidey: the, sixties, right? And it does portray the future in a, in a kind of optimistic way with bright colors. I think they even had to tone the colors down from what they originally

was. And then you had 1970 threes oil crisis. And after that, basically anything that's set in the future now is in a hideous, dystopian like, fucking shit show.

That's how the future is generally presented these days. Whereas this at least had a bit of optimism

to it. I'm gonna give it that. Okay. If you think of anything that's now futurey, it's always like the earth shit we've gotta get off or Yeah.

yeah, You know, There's no

fucking resources. People are like, children of men that we watched, no one can have kids.

All that sort of shit. It's

always

Dan: true, isn't it? It would be nice to see a, a film that goes, well, look what it could be like. Yeah. You know,

Cris: know,

I mean, we all know that's a lie and it will be proper science

Sidey: but

Dan: Yeah.

Who knows? And maybe in one of the multiverses

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: Yeah. So

Pete: all in all,

Sidey: recommend

Pete: strong recommend

Sidey: Another week, another pod.

Dan: flew by like a comet.

Sidey: I don't know who's nominating. I've got, I'm itching to nominate again cause I've got some great, I

Pete: re Reeks was keen for a, a theme that he wanted us to postpone until his return, which is next week.

Yeah.

So it's quite possible that we've got that lined up.

Dan: We're gonna have to get chatting on the chat,

Sidey: chat, chat, chat. Yeah. Right. Well all that remains for now is to say, society signing out,

Cris: Chris, help

Pete: Ttfn.

Dan: Dan's gone.