Infinity Pool & Star Wars: The Clone Wars

Welcome back to Bad Dads Film Review!
This week, we’re diving into the world of genetic doubles, eerie doppelgängers, and mass-produced warriors as we discuss Infinity Pool, Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and our Top 5 Clones in Film and TV. Cloning has been a staple of science fiction for decades, allowing filmmakers to explore questions of identity, morality, and even power. Let’s get into it!
Top 5 Clones in Film and TV
- The Replicants – Blade Runner (1982) & Blade Runner 2049 (2017)
- These artificial humans blur the line between man and machine, raising questions about free will and identity.
- Duncan Jones’ Sam Bell – Moon (2009)
- Sam Rockwell’s lonely lunar worker is one of the most emotionally compelling clone characters ever.
- Dolly the Sheep – Jurassic Park (1993)
- Okay, not actually Dolly, but the cloned dinosaurs in Jurassic Park are the ultimate cautionary tale about playing God. Life, uh, finds a way!
- Jango Fett & The Clone Troopers – Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008-2020)
- The galaxy’s most famous army, these soldiers might share the same DNA, but their individual personalities shine through in the series, making them some of the best-developed clones in fiction.
- Michael Keaton’s Many Copies – Multiplicity (1996)
- A comedic take on cloning, this underrated film sees Keaton’s character create clones to help him manage life—only for things to spiral hilariously out of control.
Feature Review: Infinity Pool (2023)
From the mind of Brandon Cronenberg (son of body-horror legend David Cronenberg), Infinity Pool is a disturbing and mind-bending thriller that plays with themes of identity, privilege, and morality.
James (Alexander Skarsgård) is a struggling writer vacationing at an exclusive island resort with his wife. When they meet a mysterious couple (led by Mia Goth’s unsettlingly seductive Gabi), things take a dark turn. A tragic accident leads to James being arrested and presented with a bizarre offer: he can either be executed for his crime or pay to have a clone take his place.
This is not one for the kids—Infinity Pool is a disturbing, trippy film that will appeal to fans of Possessor, The Lighthouse, or Under the Skin. It’s a psychological descent into madness.
Kids Feature: Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008-2020)
Switching gears, we head to a galaxy far, far away with Star Wars: The Clone Wars, the animated series that not only fleshed out the prequel trilogy but also gave us some of the best storytelling in the franchise.
While some early episodes skew young, The Clone Wars matures into one of the best animated series ever. It’s perfect for Star Wars fans of all ages, providing emotional depth and epic action.
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Reegs: Welcome to Bad Dad's Film Review, the podcast that is to movie reviews as Dolly the Sheep was to vegan shepherd's pie. This week we're diving headfirst into the murky gene pool of cinema with Clone Week. starting off by tackling the top five clones in films and tv before moving on to discuss brandon cronenberg's 2023 sci fi horror thriller infinity pool and the kids tv this week is brought to us by star wars in the clone wars animated series because nothing says children's entertainment quite like the systemic slaughter of children's soldiers genetically bred in a lap a fair warning this podcast is explicit so if you're easily offended Congratulations, you've already failed at life, and we're about to spoil more plots than a necrophiliac gravedigger.
So if that sort of thing bothers you, you've come to the wrong place. And even if it doesn't, you've probably still come to the wrong place, let's be honest. Before we start, let's meet the three walking vasectomy adverts who will be your guide through this debacle. Coming first, as usual, is the always gorgeous Chris.
A man whose face belongs in the Louvre, but whose brain belongs in the pickle jar. He's the kind of guy who'd ace a DNA test, but fail a personality quiz. Rounding second base, it's the man who's apparently taking his research into cloning very seriously, judging by the way he's been enthusiastically donating his genetic material to every surface in his house this
Sidey: this week. Do you know what?
That's topical, because I did offer it up
Reegs: Your, your genetic material? Okay.
Sidey: a same sex couple who are, trying for a baby.
Reegs: Right, and you
Sidey: They are waiting for
the
the stuff they want to come back in stock and I said well if you haven't asked me you can have mine.
Reegs: haven't asked me again have you?
Sidey: He sort of looked at me and I said I think Caley would be non plussed about that anyway.
So there you go, yeah topical one.
Reegs: you go. Yeah, and then there's me, Riggs. Hello. Hello. You alright?
Cris: Yeah,
Sidey: Did
you watch anything this week, Riggs?
Reegs: No, just the homework I think really.
Okay.
Sidey: What about you,
Cris: I've watched because I was with Pete. I've managed to finally have a, a day off, that too. But I had a day off on Thursday and I met up with Pete and we went for lunch, well, like a brunch.
And, Obviously, movies came into the topic and I watched a couple of episodes of Vikings. Because I've never watched it. Then he was like, Oh, this will definitely make you watch the second season. I've watched three episodes and we'll see. I'm not committed to anything yet, but we shall see. It's been all right so far.
I don't know. It's not anything extraordinary, but it was, it was all right. I think that's pretty much it. I don't think I've had time. To watch anything else, and I've watched Homework,
Sidey: it. I watched Back in Action. Jamie Foxx and Cameron Diaz. Yeah. Every bit is
Cris: actually, sorry, sorry, I've watched, it was a couple of weeks ago, but It was so memorable that I forgot that I watched it.
Was it a movie on Apple TV?
Sidey: All right.
Cris: With Brad Pitt and George
Sidey: Oh, wolf awful, isn't it?
Cris: Yeah.
Sidey: It's so bad.
Reegs: is
Cris: so shit.
Sidey: they're, they're both like, they're both cleaners. Assassin sort of cleaners. I think it got basically,
Cris: know who wrote it, but
Sidey: don't think they could find a district to take it to cinema.
So it ended up in Apple. It's fucking awful.
Reegs: it, it's just a straight to Apple,
Sidey: Yeah, it's garbage.
Absolutely garbage. Same. I'd seen it and forgotten
Cris: Yeah, I mean, I think, I don't think it was this week. I think it was definitely last week. But I just, I've watched it and it's one of them that I just kind of, probably 90 minutes to 100 minutes of my life that just went and I don't know where they've gone.
Sidey: Yeah. Yeah,
Cris: It's, yeah, it's not, if you want to avoid something, probably
Sidey: avoid that, that's one to avoid. Yeah, it's another Netflix, sort of,
Reegs: just, so chemistry
Sidey: Their chemistry is quite good, to be fair.
Reegs: She's not been around for ages, has
Sidey: She's just, she's a mum, she's just been a mum.
Reegs: Is that what she's been doing? Yeah,
Cris: has any of you watched anything of that American Primeval?
Is that how you say it? Primeval? Primeval. okay.
Sidey: No, I haven't, I've never heard You've never heard of it? No.
Cris: It's on Netflix. It's meant to be, like, the new series with It's like a western, but it's series.
Reegs: I think Yellowstone
is coming to Netflix, which I am excited about if that does, because I'm going
Sidey: haven't watched that.
Reegs: you watched it?
Sidey: you watched it?
Harrison
Ford and Helen Mirren. Yeah, it's really good. I also watched I really like, I don't know if you've ever heard it. It's the podcast by watch on YouTube. This is entertainment. There's loads of, this is like podcasts and I'm really into the, this is politics one at the moment.
So,
Cris: Oh, is that Lineker's production company
Sidey: There's yeah, there's a football one. So watching that and john oliver's last week tonight series was back yesterday So watch that this morning. Obviously, it's all about trump so what's that? And I haven't watched yet. But what is available is season three of yellow jackets?
Reegs: Yeah, I hear it's back on form as well after maybe a
Sidey: I like serious
Reegs: second season.
Sidey: I still liked it.
The first two episodes are out, so I might watch those when I get back after this. Someone else who watched something is a long time fan of the pod, Breachy. Breachy's been to the multiplex and says that if you I really recommend taking someone you hate to watch the new Bridget Jones This Valentine's Weekend.
Absolutely horrific.
Reegs: Absolutely
horrific. I
think they put that on the poster,
Cris: anyone would pay me to watch Renée Zellweger, there's not enough money in the world for me to watch her act or, or exist.
Reegs: I'm not overly familiar with the Bridget universe, cinematic universe. I've seen one or
Cris: two of them.
Sidey: seen any and I will never see any of them.
Reegs: There's four now, isn't there? There's four, yeah.
Sidey: It's been a bit of a hiatus, but people were clamouring for another one I guess, so there's another one. So there you go. Great. Not for me, that one.
Cris: one,
Reegs: take someone. You hate to
Cris: another one. Excellent.
you hate. Yeah, take someone you hate. Hey guys,
Reegs: Hey guys, should we go and see Bridget
Cris: Imagine three or four blokes just rocking up to see the fourth version of Bridget Jones, which none of us have seen the other ones.
Sidey: It's
Reegs: sort of a bit tempted now because it's been described in such, you know, absolutely horrific
is is,
Sidey: know.
It's
Cris: you know why? Because I've seen, sorry, I've seen it, the trailer when I went to watch the Robbie Williams thing, it had the trailer for that and
We had sweets and some stuff like popcorn and that, and I just lost my appetite just by seeing
Reegs: Shall
Sidey: Should we crack on this top
Reegs: The door
Sidey: top five clones.
Cris: I'm gonna be honest here, my, Research is restricted to two
Sidey: Okay. Yeah,
Cris: because I don't, I never the only reason being is in my defense, as you in this room are well aware, sci fi is not a genre that I would ever watch by choice.
Reegs: Yeah Yeah,
Cris: and secondly, I kind of looked into what movies have clones, what movies have this unless it's twins. But if it's clones, there's only two movies that I've watched, and one of them I can barely remember watching.
Sidey: Give us your first one then.
Reegs: Yeah,
Cris: first one is Gemini Man.
Reegs: it's bad, isn't it? Ang Lee,
Cris: it's with Will Smith as well, so it's
Sidey: Smithers.
Cris: shockingly bad.
Reegs: Clive Owen and Benedict Wong again, like we were talking about in
Sidey: Yeah.
Cris: Yeah, at least I watched that.
Do you know what?
Reegs: He's an assassin who comes up against a younger version of himself. Played, you know,
Sidey: doesn't that happen in Luper as well? Yeah,
Reegs: De
Cris: I was going to say. It's
Reegs: Yeah, but this is a clone.
Cris: But, but, but, but somehow different because he doesn't go back in time is more or forward in time. Whatever you want to call it. I don't know that one was bad, but at least I've seen that. And. to my shame.
I've watched a a Will Smith movie. But yeah, that, so, so I have that
Reegs: it's a strong start, who
cares
Cris: about that.
Reegs: Yeah. What have you got outside?
Sidey: How about Hitler?
A fan.
Reegs: a fan? I'm
Cris: His roots,
Sidey: boys from Brazil,
Reegs: I've never seen
Cris: I've never seen it either. It did pop up
Sidey: What a year. Yeah. That is clones of Adolf Hitler raised in different conditions to see if it's nature versus nurture,
Well, I don't know.
You have to
Reegs: watched it. Oh, you've
Cris: Oh, you never watched it. Oh, right. Okay. That popped up on my research as well, but if I've never watched it, I don't know what to say
Sidey: I wanted to bring that one up because I've caught quite a lot of anti Semitic
Reegs: Semitism. Well, that's not,
Sidey: content on my Twitter feed recently.
Reegs: it's not that hard to find.
Cris: they are
Sidey: it's all been from
Cris: It's probably the place to go for
Sidey: all been from Kanye. Yeah, so that's probably why that one came my way. Something that I have seen. Alien Resurrection.
Cris: Ripley. Yeah,
Sidey: Ripley, Ripley the 8th is a hybrid clone. That I think you see loads of them in sort of jars of formaldehyde or whatever it is. Or just whatever the fuck tubes they're making them in.
And that's a hybrid of Ripley and a xenomorph queen. Which probably isn't going to go too well.
Reegs: Yeah, well even the Ripley herself, she's got a bit of Sidic blood and all that stuff and she's a bit like more
Sidey: Well she is a clone because she dies in 3, doesn't she? So,
Reegs: Yeah, they clone her, it's set 200 years later and they clone her out of some stuff and they're trying to get the Queen going again and all that shit.
Do you remember the basketball shot? I always remember this about the
Sidey: it the first time. The first time. Yeah.
Reegs: Perlman nearly spoils the take if you watch because he's like
Sidey: like I can't it.
Reegs: Yeah, it's good. Good. That one.
Sidey: like that.
Reegs: Yeah. The prestige.
Cris: Yeah, well, that's
Reegs: Well, that's what the machine
Cris: doesn't
Reegs: just, it, it, like it makes a replacement.
Sidey: Which one? Tesla's one?
Reegs: no, yeah. Tesla's machine. Yeah. So.
Cris: been a
Sidey: to say, because they're just twins, aren't they? Yeah,
Reegs: Yeah, so like each night, like it's like a matter duplicator, basically. So whatever you put in there, because the giveaway is the hats. Don't you see all the hats in the forest and they've just, it's a matter duplicator. So you don't know though, which one is the real one.
And every night one drops into the, the water below to die while the other one can materialize and keep it going. Whereas, um, what's his name?
Cris: Bale
Reegs: Christian Bale's character has just been living a secret life with a, an identical brother to pull off the same trick, essentially. It's, that's the dedication to the, the cause and all that stuff.
That was really cool.
Cris: Yeah, that was really good. I, I did remember watching that and I, that it, I actually seen that it did pop up on my research, but I just couldn't remember which one was a clone. Yeah. And I was
Reegs: Jackman every night
Cris: I, I definitely didn't have, I, I wouldn't have been able to explain it the way you did, so I just thought, I'll just leave it.
Surely someone will pick this up and make,
Sidey: maybe Nolan's best movie,
Reegs: Maybe He's got a few bangers, but
it's probably the one I've seen the most actually.
Cris: That was good. I did like that. And I'll, I'll, I'll have to say my hats off to you. Hats and all that. The sixth day
of Arnold
Sidey: Schwarzenegger. A Schwartz. Yeah.
Cris: I look, this is one that I remember watching, but I couldn't really tell you.
It's pretty much very similar to the prestige where I can't really remember much about it. I know he goes away somewhere and then he comes back and there's a clone at home.
Yeah.
Like him, but
Reegs: but Do
Cris: Do you know what I was also thinking?
I know this, how would you call the Terminator when he kind of changes shape?
That's not a clone, that's just
Sidey: like a replicator.
And then I think it's Terminator Genesis, where you see the factory where there's loads of Arnies, but their robots are not clones,
Cris: clone. So I can't, I can't have that.
Reegs: I can't have that.
Anyway,
Cris: I'll take, I'll take the Arnie one the sixth day because I kind of remember him. I can't remember what he was doing or why he went
Sidey: Is that the devil one?
Reegs: No, no,
Cris: of days.
Sidey: of Days, yeah.
Reegs: it's the one where clone they've done cloning, but it's it's illegal to
Cris: Oh yeah. He hates cloning as well. He's like, Ooh, I'm against
Reegs: Well, the whole society does it's like a bit polarized society hasn't it?
Cris: Yeah.
Reegs: the elite it's illegal to clone people, but there is a black market of
Sidey: course, of course there is.
Reegs: You can clone your pet, so that's the thing that's really funny because if your pet dies, but you've got some sample I could just clone it and it's exactly the same pet again Which yeah, exactly would just make a bajillion dollars
Sidey: If they could
Reegs: If they could do it
And then anyway, it turns out the Arnie that you've been following is actually the clone when they spoiler alert for a fucking
Sidey: yeah,
Cris: Yes, yeah, okay. Yeah, I kind of, I knew that, but he kind of goes back home and then, yeah, okay.
Reegs: Side,
Cris: that's, that's it from me, so, so I can't really
help
Reegs: out,
Sidey: Okay. You're out. I've got a couple of Simpsons ones. Yeah. We have Homer Tree House of Horror 13. Yeah. He has a cloning hammock, which creates loads of different homers, obviously. Yeah. And Bart has a clone in Treehouse of Horror seven as an evil twin, but maybe that's just a twin.
Not a clone as such,
Reegs: I think I looked at this today because I had Dan been here. I was going to talk about him being a twin. And I think they are twins are genetic clones, aren't they?
Sidey: I guess.
Reegs: so and it rarely goes well. Does it cloning? There's not a lot of movies where it's like clones.
That's been a good idea.
Sidey: Because we can clone stuff.
It's been
Reegs: done. Dolly I mentioned her,
Sidey: famous one. Yeah.
Reegs: In a really bad joke right at the beginning.
Sidey: I think we can teleport now. Didn't they teleport something quantumly?
Reegs: I think that sort of thing. Yeah, but how to get any real world application out of it? I don't really know at
Sidey: Have to
Reegs: yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
Sidey: Got him. Let's have another clone.
Reegs: Multiplicity.
Sidey: Ah, Michael Keaton.
Reegs: Yeah. You seen this one? This a Harold Ramis movie, actually Egon from Ghostbusters. If you ever saw that, but it's Keaton and Andy McDowell.
He's like an overworked. Construction worker, you know, manager. He wants to spend more time with his family and his wife. And he also wants some alone time and there's, you know, never enough time, never enough time, never enough time. And through a bunch of scarcely believable set of events, he ends up being offered a clone you know, to help him spend time with them, you know.
More important people in his life. So somebody can go to work. Somebody can be the father at home and you can swap places. Somebody can go into the attic and jerk off and play computer games. And the other one can go and live life for a
Sidey: bit
Reegs: vice versa. And it goes well at first and then it doesn't go so well.
And then there's a load of shenanigans with clones, cloning themselves and all sorts. And it turns out that, you know, keaton is a bit of an asshole to himself as well. So one of them's gotta fuck his wife. That's his job, basically. So it was quite good, but it was more syrupy nice than I've made it.
Sidey: Howard Ramesses films are all like
Reegs: yeah.
But that stuff all happened
Sidey: all We talked about this one a little while ago, Dr. Manhattan, he can kind of enlarge himself and shrink himself, he can also clone himself, make copies of himself and he does that so that he can continue his scientific work and still fuck his missus in the other room.
Reegs: messages in
the
Sidey: it's like she realizes there's multiple hands on her. It's all freaked out about
Reegs: that there's multiple hands on there. freaked out.
Sidey: and someone else who's kind of super powery in a way is agent smith in matrix Resurrection? Second, whatever, Reloaded is that fight in the square where it's one Neo and a million
Reegs: I watched it the other day. Yeah, I loved
Sidey: I thought, I think the CGI looks a bit
Reegs: Well, actually I got suckered into watching basically the middle stretch of the movie because it's just great.
It's about an hour and a half, 15
Sidey: scene is great.
Yeah.
Reegs: it all goes from that, to the Chateau fight, to the motorway scene, you know, you can watch that stretch of the He's more virus y than cloney, I was thinking, but
Sidey: thinking. They
Reegs: They cloned Tyrone. It's a Netflix original with Jamie Foxx and John Boyega in it.
It's pretty good. Weirder and darker than you'd think. And it's got this kind of blaxploitation type vibe to it as well. Which is pretty cool. What else was there? Cloney clones, never let me go. Was Cary Mulligan and Andrew Garfield and directed by Mark Romanek. It was based on a book and it was, it's basically the same movie as The Island, the Michael Bay movie.
The same premise of clones being brought up so they can harvest
Sidey: Right.
Reegs: for them. So yeah, but this was like a real, like romantic, sad set in the isolated English countryside and all that sort of. Jazz
Cris: and they just want organs.
Reegs: Yeah. They were, they had clones for rich people that if you get, you know, if you need a heart or whatever, you just go and Mm-hmm . And then, but they suddenly find that out there at boarding school. So it's like a relationship drama at first and then they sort of find out this big secret,
Sidey: What about some musical clones? One of the great artists of our time and I mean that sincerely is Weird Al Yankovic and he did a version of the Tiffany song I Think We're Alone Now but it was I Think We're a Clone Now I Think I'm a Clone Now that is from the album Even Worse if I remember rightly It's fucking great Really, really good yeah
send in the clones by the epoxies some other ones.
And there's also a really good one just called clones by the roots. It's a banger. So a few musical options there for you and I've just going to nominate after
that.
Reegs: Yeah, let's have it. Yeah, I've only got one, like, bonus mention, which is S Club 7 seeing Double. I don't know if you remember
Sidey: remember. S Club
Reegs: it
was the little, they, they had a TV series, right? And then they did like a feature length movie at the
Sidey: Really? yeah.
Should we watch it?
Reegs: cloned and then evil clones go off
Sidey: I think they were fairly evil in their own right. Well, she was a massive racist, wasn't she? The blonde one.
Reegs: one. She
Sidey: She
went on Big Brother and was really racist, wasn't
she?
Reegs: Big Brother and
Sidey: True story. Right, go on then.
Reegs: she? Um, go
on
Sidey: been nominated online as well. Yeah, yeah.
Reegs: been nominated online as well. Clone action for nostalgic reasons, more than anything
Sidey: than anything else. Well,
Reegs: Well, I
think typically it's probably been my thing, I probably found something to enjoy about it, because
Sidey: probably found something to enjoy
Reegs: it was pretty poor.
Sidey: because The
Cris: The
Sixth Day, because I can't put a movie with Will Smith in it,
Sidey: put
Reegs: that.
Sidey: with Will Smith in it.
Reegs: No, go on, get 'em in there.
Sidey: Not the metal robot ones, but the actual human they are, you know, like proper organic clones.
I'm having them the seven.
Reegs: 'em in. Yeah.
Sidey: Battlestar
- I do have some online on Discord.
Reegs: Oh, let's hear.
Sidey: Um, Breachy said I had this really great piano film called Replicas. Breachy, probably one of the only people out there who listened to that episode at the time that it came out.
Danleith, he's got Moon. He's got one that isn't even out yet.
The forthcoming Boon Joon Hoo movie.
Reegs: movie.
Sidey: yeah. The Island and Multiplicity. And he also has Alien Colon Resurrection and The Sixth Day.
Strong list, that's a
Reegs: strong,
Sidey: So, I say, we've already got replicas. Have moon. I think we take multiplicity out of that list. Oh yeah, because you've done the sixth day.
Multiplicity, and then we need one, a and other, to complete the cloning.
Reegs: yeah, the
Cris: So
Reegs: we can splice it all
together.
Sidey: So let's be having it.
Cris: Clone Week, Infinity Pool.
Reegs: Yeah.
Sidey: Nepo Baby Week. Brandon Cronenberg. You familiar with his father's work?
Cris: No.
Sidey: Okay.
Cris: Is that the lobster in that?
Sidey: No. He did things like Scanners. Other things.
It's sort of, synonymous with, like, body horror. Things, things going
Cris: no, I wouldn't
Sidey: Graphic violence and the like.
So I hadn't seen This, or The Possessor.
Reegs: Possessor, yeah.
Sidey: But I was keen to watch this one.
Reegs: Yeah.
Cris: heard of this?
Reegs: I've seen
it before, yeah.
Sidey: I'd heard of it, but I'm familiar with it when it came out, so I want to see this one. The poster for The Possessor was too scary even for me, so I didn't want to go anywhere near that.
But it was up for this. I put it on and the missus was in, and so she sat down to it, so I was excited to see her reaction to it as well.
Reegs: Yeah.
Sidey: So let's get into it.
Reegs: Yeah.
Sidey: It's, A couple of people in a fancy resort. Yeah. We hear some talking,
Reegs: It's like a black screen and this weird mumbled dialogue about, she says something like you can't feed yourself with white sand brain death or something, and he's like, no, I just asked you if you wanted breakfast.
But yeah, they're mumbling that sort of feeling of Just waking up or whatever, sort of just actually goes throughout the whole movie. Anyway, eventually she stands up, opens the curtains and yeah, we're at a resort James and Em.
Sidey: Ann. Yeah.
Reegs: They're a couple.
Sidey: They go down for breakfast.
it's
Reegs: in a swanky resort in this fictional country or island, it's not quite sure, but it's called La Tolca.
And if you really weren't sure what kind of film this was going to be, there's a shot early on just of the resort and of the beach and of the swimming pool and it sort of turns on its axis and there's all this like screeching and really unsettling shit going on so it gives you the vibe straight
Sidey: away. Em says about, oh there's this trip we can go on where we can We can venture out.
Reegs: Well hang on, just before that, there's the, I just wanted to mention it because there's like, their visit coincides with like an annual festival which we see them celebrating and it's these like, grotesque
Sidey: Because the camera is just like very point of, like build up to it. And you're like What
Reegs: What the fuck, yeah.
The
Sidey: first one, it's got like loads of holes in its forehead, this
Reegs: Yeah.
Sidey: But you don't know that it's a mask, because it's sort of
Reegs: It
looks almost real
Sidey: be real.
Like a, just a mutant, you
Reegs: It's like two pairs of eyes or like a face that's melted or like really fucking bizarre.
It's a local tradition that is about to, it's about welcoming the return of the monsoon essentially that's coming.
Sidey: can buy
Reegs: and you can buy the mask in the gift shop if you want it.
Sidey: it. Yeah, then they start talking about there's this tour we can go on. And he's like, it's not very safe out there. You know, we've been told you're not really meant to leave.
I said, no, this one's okay. There's a few people going to do it. You know, I think I want to do it.
Reegs: Oh, and also there's this Chinese restaurant. We should go to it. And he's quite dismissive about
Sidey: well, it's not very authentic. Yeah. Yeah.
Reegs: So she, she says it's cold and tense. Their relationship and distant. She's like, I'm going to go off and do it anyway. I'll meet you later. Sort of thing. So he goes off down to the beach where there's a protest going on.
There's some locals like riding or one local riding his quad bike on the. On the beach, and he's like, he doesn't really know what's going on, and then this really attractive lady, Myrgoth, did you think she was? You said she didn't
think
Cris: didn't think, especially after watching the whole movie,
Reegs: Yeah, well, yeah.
Cris: appalled.
Reegs: Yeah but yeah, she comes up to him, instantly very
Sidey: She's read his book, she knows who he
Reegs: he is. That's the thing that gets him really fucking going. Yeah. Yeah, and she's acting all coy and whatever.
Sidey: So you get the feeling that his book hasn't been a smash hit, it's not Dan Brown.
Yeah. It's some niche thing and, but she's read it and she was a
Reegs: she's
Sidey: super into him and that piques his interest,
Reegs: was a big fan of it. And so
Sidey: She says, would it be weird if you joined us for dinner? And he's like, no,
Reegs: interest.
It was
Sidey: Yeah.
Cris: And it's the same waiter. The one from the breakfast is the same as the Chinese.
Reegs: Yeah, but being sort of slightly yellow faced, basically and wearing sort of culturally non specific Chinese, far eastern y clothing and all that stuff. So they go out to dinner. Chic Gabby is her name. She's an actress who specializes in, what is it, failing naturally. Yeah, and she
Sidey: She demonstrates cutting a bread roll and she is so ridiculous.
Reegs: it's absolutely ridiculous and she is a ridiculous character really at this point because she's like dripping with everything. So, but the dinner is really tense and it covers everything from James's admission about his writer's block to the insecurities he has over his writing to the fact that M, his wife, bankrolls their relationship.
She describes him as a charitable body at one point. I was like fucking wincing.
Cris: Yeah,
Reegs: Yeah, she's a publisher's
Sidey: daughter. But he is super fucking dreamy.
Reegs: Alexander Skarsgård, yeah. And cool as a
Sidey: where he's walking, he's got, I noticed his watch is really
Reegs: his watch is
Cris: Yeah, like the shirt,
Sidey: he's got a shirt, and then he's got like a really cool like hat on,
Reegs: Yeah, I know he looks so fucking hot. Yeah. And so yeah, her father is a famous publisher and she told, he told her don't get in a relationship with a writer. So she married the first one she met basically, and that's their
Sidey: yeah. I think Gabby said, or what, you know, what, did you see him? Or how come you two. Ended up together and she just goes, daddy issues.
Yeah.
Reegs: So yeah, even though they've been told not to leave the resort, they fucking go and do it anyway, don't they?
Sidey: don't they? Yeah. Gabby and her husband have got some sort of connection at the hotel. Who's going to arrange for them a car let them off. And when you see the perimeter fence, it is like a fucking military thing.
You know, it's a checkpoint the, you
Cris: Barbed wire on the top of the fence, all of it, yeah, it's
Sidey: Do not fucking leave, it's not safe. But they're gonna go out in this car. They go out to this seaside, it was obviously, it was Croatia, right?
Reegs: yeah,
Cris: yeah.
Sidey: yeah. And it, it looks great.
Reegs: They have a little barbeque,
Sidey: barbecue she wanks him off completely unexpectedly.
Yeah,
Reegs: goes off this
Cris: a sexual assault, really. I know he's into her, but
Reegs: It's a sexual assault, I think, really.
I
Sidey: I mean, he's
Reegs: into her, but also she It's very
Sidey: Does he go off for a piss or
Cris: up behind
Sidey: she just walks up behind him and grabs his dick and then you can see clearly she's wanking him
Reegs: It looks a bit painful.
Sidey: but at no point does he say stop.
And then he cheers us on the floor. Yeah.
Reegs: Yeah, you see the
Sidey: walks up, not a fucking word spoken between them.
Reegs: Mm.
They're all hammered, absolutely hammered. James appears to be the least drunk, so at the end of the day he volunteers to drive them back, and his lights are failing, this scene is really tense.
And you know, very unsurprising I think what happens, he hits a local farmer on the way back who lives long enough just to sort of see him twitching in the road for a few seconds. I think you
Sidey: I think you can see his face is sort of stoved in, it's
Reegs: It's pretty
Cris: is stoked in it. Yeah, it says already he's a
Reegs: Well, Gabby, Gabby says already, like, the police are really heavy handed on local, on foreigners, and you might get raped or worse, you know, so, we're gonna hide it and face, you know, sort it out in the morning.
Sidey: Yeah, the guy will deal with the car and it won't be a problem. So they, they blacked their way back into the compounds go to sleep. And in the morning they get a knock at the door. It's the gendarmes.
Reegs: Yeah. And he and M are taken away. They're led to this sort of decrepit police station slash warehouse it almost looks like. And then they're separated and then we get a really crazy few minutes of plot explanation where we're going to set it up. Basically, James is stripped and told by a detective they know what he did.
M's already told them. He's, it's been confirmed the punishment for this crime is death in this place. They'll be doing it today. On the, on level B. And in the local tradition it's the local son gets to do it. So fortunately he had a 13 year old boy and he'll be doing it. So any questions? And obviously he's confused and horrified by this and frightened, really frightened.
And he says, well, don't worry about it too much because if you've got enough money, we'll provide a clone and we'll kill the clone instead. It's a double. You have to watch it.
Sidey: Yeah, that's your like punishment.
Reegs: Yeah. That's your punishment if you've got enough money. So I really like this idea of the rich being able to essentially outsource
Sidey: literally just goes to the ATM.
Reegs: and
Cris: Yeah, there's, there's an ATM, the whole place has cars from the sixties and everything looks like, I dunno, North Korea. Yeah. Like in terms. Cars and how it looks like barbed wire and shit everywhere, but then there's an ATM. It's like a wad of cash And then there you go, mate. Cheers
Reegs: Which they will absolutely do, one day, definitely, sure, if they can set it up.
So, yeah, and then the cloning process itself, you see it happening, because the transaction happens pretty quickly, he's stripped naked, and it's very low tech, because
I don't
think so, I think you might see his ass.
Sidey: ass. You see his ass, but then they
Reegs: got this mouthguard thing in that makes him sort of look, it's really painful, it makes him look ridiculous.
Cris: Have you ever had one of them? You get it on the dentist if you do the I've had it once, only once I've had my like the teeth whitening thing And they do give you that and it's like They, sorry, it forces your mouth to stay open so they can clean the teeth And I don't know what the purpose was it for this guy For the cloning,
Reegs: No Because it's not really the point of it is not to examine the technical thing of this is to set it up in It's really a symbol for like not having to face up, you know or facing death or not facing accountability, basically
Sidey: Yeah, it, so this is the infinity mill pool, he goes into that some goo comes down, there's sort of some kaleidoscopic visuals that go on and then he comes to And he's kind of, sort of presented with his clone.
bed,
isn't
he
Reegs: And yeah, he goes to see what is the clone, who knows, to be honest who's lying prone in a kind of red gel, the sort of red gel he was standing in when he was doubled. So anyway, the, what is told, what we're told is the double is then taken to a room, tied to a post in his sort of hospital gown, and then the 13 year old boy does come out with a knife and just stabs this guy
Sidey: About 50 times?
Reegs: He howls for his life at first, begs for it.
Cris: He
shouts the M.
Reegs: yeah. And in the stands, James watches himself dying and a kind of smile, kind of half smile comes across his face.
Sidey: Could have been a lot worse, I suppose.
Reegs: so afterwards for each, for each clone, you're given their ashes to take home in a little urn as a little memento.
Cris: Oh, you can keep it, you can call it as a souvenir.
Reegs: Yeah.
Cris: Thanks, mate.
Sidey: So they're, you know, quite strained. They were strained before, but they're even more strained now. This is really a problem.
Reegs: Well, Emmet is doing the only sensible thing, right? The next scene is of her like, when's the next
Sidey: Yeah. We are
Reegs: do I get out of here? And
Cris: no. And
he can't find his passport.
Reegs: He's lost his passport, yeah. So because he's lost his passport, he goes down to the front desk to extend his stay by a week on M's bank, bank dot, yeah, on her dime which is when he bumps into Gabby again, who explains that this has happened to them before And her husband, Albin, had been in, had been the lead architect on the installation of an infinity pool another resort.
There'd been some manslaughter thing. He was held responsible and had been killed on a, you
Sidey: know,
Reegs: on a vacation and they've come back. Obviously she knows and has experienced this and all that sort so, yeah.
Cris: She brings him back to meet the rest of
Reegs: brings him back to meet the rest of what they call the zombies.
All the people who've So it's like tourism now, essentially. You come to do
Sidey: It's like hostel or something. You can do what you want. Pay your way out
Reegs: No consequences. So, pretty then, I mean, it just goes through a series of really escalating crazy events. From this point
Sidey: they go and get the masks, don't they? And then they break into the villa with the made man.
Reegs: Yeah. So the owner of the hotel, of the guy.
The infinity pool had been installed in the album of work for they know where he is and he's received some medal and they want to go and steal that medal for him. So they get fucking blind drunk and steal the masks that the horrible masks from the beginning and go off to go and get this guy and his daughter and his wife.
He's got that. I don't wish to say anything really like awful here, but this was that a micro penis that that man had. I don't
They strip him naked from the waist down, he has very small penis. It's sorry to point that out. And it must have been awful on set that day, you know, to
Sidey: Maybe he was nervous.
Reegs: Yeah. Well, you would have been because he's got a gun to his head. And there's all these freaks in masks jumping about and howling and Whatnot. And actually what they didn't realize is there was actually another bodyguard there who comes out at the last minute and opens fire and then mere goth, the character Gabby is just shooting Ah, screaming.
Yeah. Crazed. Yeah. And then it cuts to a Bollywood
dance. Yeah.
Sidey: cut, isn't it? And it, it's just some performances going on in a square as they run past, because one of them has been hit.
Reegs: Olben, the husband, has been hit in the leg.
Sidey: he's losing a lot of blood.
Reegs: And then we get a kind of particularly horrifying scene next, which you don't realise is from the perspective of the clones as they have been sort of caught by the police, the group.
and rounded up and they're just having these mundane conversations about colonoscopies and when the detective comes in she puts on her kind of Karen complaining to the manager type voice and suddenly they're let outside and executed and you realize you've been following the clones and they're just clapping and whooping
Sidey: loving it, yeah. Yeah.
Right, we get to go again. And so
it descends into that where they're just like completely sort of nihilistic behavior.
Reegs: yeah there's a drug that they take that has loads of hallucinations and more
Sidey: shit
They're just like in the hotel at the, you know, the buffet, just throwing stuff around and just being like Brits on tour basically.
And
Reegs: And it all escalates and escalates and through some events, James is tricked into abusing essentially himself, a clone of himself. He thinks it's a detective, but it's the arrested him originally, but it's not. It was revealed after he stabbed him and beaten him and pissed on him. It's revealed that it's a clone of
Sidey: of himself.
Yeah. Cause he kind of, he, he gets to the point where he wants out.
Reegs: he wants out.
Cris: Yeah, when they take the, when they take the gag off
Reegs: gag off the passport. And then you see
Cris: then you see that the
Sidey: He collapses in the bathroom, doesn't he?
And he's like, fuck, my passport's not been in the room the whole time, but it's been
Reegs: No, he
Cris: I
think he's put it there.
Reegs: He stashed
Cris: He just wanted to stay initially and
Reegs: Exactly. Yeah. He was attracted to all of everything that was going.
So he legs it back to his room. He's headed out for the airport. He's on the bus on the way when Gabby and her mates turn up in a car and they basically just push him over like it's a prison van and force him out the bus at gunpoint. And she's like. Screaming Jamesy in this like really childish
Sidey: started to really get on my nerves at this point.
Reegs: Yeah, I
Cris: by then, his missus was already gone.
Reegs: Oh, she's gone. Yeah, she went ages ago and they make him like slowly March in front of their cars while she's like lolling about drunk on the front of the car in KFC.
And she reads out like horrible reviews. She tells the first, she says all these horrible things about how spineless he is and what a sucker he is and what a pitiful man he is.
But the worst thing she says is I never read your book
Sidey: He's
Reegs: he looks at her like after all this shit that he's been through. That was the worst thing she could have said
then she reads a really scathing review of his book, which sounds dreadful. The variable sheath it was called.
And so clearly the part where Cronenberg is expressing his own, like, because it's all about how essentially he only got the gig because of who his father in law is and all that shit.
So, yeah.
Sidey: the, she sort of flumes around, doesn't she? And drops the gun and falls off the card, doesn't she? Yeah. And gives him the opportunity to try and leg it. Yeah. And. She fires a few random
Cris: But he does get hit and collapses
Sidey: but, but he does get hit and collapses down.
But he's able to come through this clearing into he's a farmhouse there. Yeah. And they take him in and nurse him back to health. But it's not long before, don't,
Reegs: this bit was, very bizarre.
He, I didn't know if he hallucinated it or whether the kid was actually there or not. He definitely hallucinates the kid like strangling him. But then he imagines all sorts of shit going on when that's happening as well. And then it's not clear because I couldn't work out whether he still had the limp that he had from before.
Cause he comes straight out, he sort of rejuvenated after this weird hallucination scene. And then when he wakes up, he comes out and the gang are just waiting for him. Straight away, with all their cars in the middle of the night. And they say to him, Look, your transformation can't be complete until you kill the dog.
And they bring out the dog, which is a clone of him, like, naked. Just high on this fucking crazy drug that they've and he's told he has to kill himself, which he refuses to do at first.
Until it becomes kind of him or him.
So he does eventually kill him. It's absolutely brutal. It's like that, you know, you see his eyes like being mashed in and his skull caving in and it's really very graphic.
Yeah.
Sidey: obviously been dead for a long time, but he's still beating him and his hand is just dripping with his clones, blood of his hand and she cradles him.
Yeah. And pulls her dress down, wipes the blood onto her breast, and then breastfeeds him for a good like minute.
Reegs: and then breastfeeds him for a good,
Cris: doesn't seem like
Reegs: There's a lot of non symbolism there, isn't there?
He's proud of
Sidey: around to protect them,
Reegs: But we know we've seen five of them. We've seen five Jameses in this movie. So, in, on the way back on this sort of shuttle bus, they're all dressed down and they're talking banally about the type of mundane shit you talk about when a holiday's nearly
Sidey: Yeah,
Cris: Yeah. Whatcha gonna do? Oh, did you pay the maintenance guy? Did you
Reegs: And he's just kind of sitting there listening to them and thinking, holy fuck, these maniacs are just going to go back into the real world.
Cris: As if this is just back to life now.
Reegs: yeah, and come back next year and murder some more people. So he can't quite
just turn it off and go back to civilization and you see him in the airport.
And his flight leaves and then the last shot is just of him back at the monsoon, sitting in the rain on a sun lounger.
It's not clear whether or not it's the first James, whether there are two, whether we're a James did go back on a flight because there's a shot of him and there's another James that stayed behind because there are two James's I think at this point.
one
Cris: think no one cares by
this
Reegs: Oh, I did. I loved it. Yeah.
great.
Yeah. Super this one.
Cris: Yeah, I tend to disagree on this one. This is, this was shocking.
Reegs: Yeah. But what were your reasons for not liking it?
Cris: Everything.
First of all, at the beginning, the shots that you really loved about the upside down. This is an idyllic resort and they put this score on to make it sound, Ooh, something creepy is going to happen here.
But this is, it looks like paradise. Okay, let's go barbed wire and all this stuff around this. It's just filmed in the wrong way. And with the wrong music just to make it feel like,
It's going
to happen something here, get ready and then they go for breakfast and I don't know, I saw, there's, I understand that this is all the rich, they can get away with it, all this, the clones are killed.
Let's see the point of which what these people are doing, but this is for me, this is the same like 99
percent of horror movies that have been done recently. It's just gratuitous violence for absolutely no reason, but then rebirth and all this. I understand this is a great, and I don't think this was a great performance by any of the actors, really.
Reegs: I
think Mia Goth and Skarsgård are both really good. It's, yeah, it's like an almost, like, mega, like, Nick Cage style performance of over the top ness. It's, like, really crazy, her, her performance.
And Skarsgård is, like, much more vulnerable than you've seen him in other stuff, where he's, like, often a hero, like he was. Well, not a hero, I mean, he's played psychopaths in, like, Northman and Hold the Dark and stuff that we watch, but, so he's much more vulnerable
Cris: Yeah, again, and I knew this from the office and there was a reason why when you put it on, I didn't look for anything in advance. I just put it on, put it on. And I said, I did today. I watched it with Kara and obviously half of the time she was covering her face because you can't watch something like that.
And then before the movie ever ended, she asked me if there's something wrong with you.
Reegs: With me? Well, yeah,
Cris: was like, who chose this movie? I was like, Riggs. Is there something wrong with him? I was just like, no, he just likes horror movies. Well, there must be something wrong with him then. But obviously that's just because she would never watch something like that.
And the minute she sees a needle or blood or anything like that, she hides in the other room. But, yeah, this was very strange
Reegs: I was really
Sidey: I, was really.
excited to watch it. Because, like I said, I was too scared for Possessor, but I thought this could be okay. And I like, you know, Daddy Cronenberg, so I was keen. I After the I guess it's the second or third lot of clones get their throats slit. I started to find it a bit of a drag.
And I found Mere Goth's character almost unwatchably annoying. And I started to just get the feeling I wanted it to end. I found it a bit of a letdown. I didn't find it that horrifying, to
Reegs: because it's nearly two hours as well, isn't it?
Cris: way too
Sidey: long. I didn't
in
a way, I was let down by the lack of violence.
There's only really His execution,
Cris: The first one.
Sidey: Where he gets stabbed about 50 times. That was, that was fairly grim. The throat sling, I suppose, is obviously pretty violent. And then when he punches that guy's face, but that's, you know, a couple of minutes out of the two hour run time. I was, I, you know, I was just like, I was here for more.
Hey, Sky Sky's really good. And I do like some of the ideas of it, but if, like, if I cast my mind back to something like Midsommar that, like, still stayed with me, this one is a bit forgettable,
Reegs: oh oh no. For me, I'd really like this one. And loads of cool, big ideas at play. And yeah, great balance of humor to all of the horrific we're all split. Split
Sidey: sort of in the middle of you two,
Cris: videos. No, but I knew this was going to be, as soon as I've seen it, a sci fi horror trailer. is going to be, this is going to, and I've seen because on Netflix, it was on Netflix?
Reegs: Oh, well it was, yeah, but it wasn't originally, it was
Cris: no, but I think that's where I watched it.
It tells you the two hour and three minutes or whatever. So I kind of was like, oh, this is
Sidey: this is going to
Cris: And I'm, I'm not gonna lie, so I'm pretty sure I told you this today when I've seen you that it was unnecessarily long.
This could have been done and wrapped up in 13 minutes.
Reegs: 13
Sidey: 13 minutes!
Yeah,
Cris: Yeah,
like the thriller by Michael Jackson or the something like
Reegs: that.
Maybe you should just watch the trailers for movies. Maybe that's enough for you
yeah, yeah,
Cris: but, but the only thing I would say is This is a movie that I would never choose to watch. So then, regardless of the fact that I didn't like it,
Sidey: I've
Reegs: expanded your mind in some tiny way.
I like to think, Chris, at some point, no, you'll be thinking about that scene where, like that weird thing protrudes out of a like fake vagina. Do you remember that?
Just in the kaleidoscope of images, there's like a, pfff, just comes out of it, yeah. So weird.
Cris: remember. I barely remember the whole film. I remember it more when you guys talk about it because it's so forgettable for me.
But, but I don't,
Sidey: This
Cris: wasn't
for me, but this doesn't mean it's not good. I heard it's got raving reviews.
Sidey: I don't know, the metrics are really low for it. Right? Yeah.
Yep.
And I don't know what the budget was, but it took in 5 million US dollars, but I did read that it was a big flop.
Cris: He was also filmed or it at the beginning, it said something about the Hungarian and Croatian society of film or something like that. So obviously I knew it was set in Croatia. I've kind of realized that but I wasn't sure about anything else. Do we have any other information about that? Or is it just because he was filmed in Croatia?
that's that's what it was. No. Okay,
Sidey: Alexander Skarsgård's wardrobe was very good.
Strong recommend
Cris: Well, I mean, he's a handsome man. Also, who is the lady with the lips? His Mrs. M.
Reegs: Cleopat Coleman
Cris: Is that her name?
Sidey: Yeah, she's coming at you.
Cris: Excellent lips. Excellent lip content in this
If anyone fancies lips,
Reegs: Excellent. Big ideas and examining whether your art is still worthwhile, even if you are an EPO baby, and all those sorts are interesting ideas too.
Sidey: guess. Yeah, strong recommend
Reegs: Strong. Huge recommend from me, yeah.
Sidey: don't know if you're familiar with an IP. It's Star Wars.
ever
come across that?
Cris: Well, Star Wars, I've never watched any of
Sidey: It's live action Star Wars, but it's also animated. And this is, this is what we watched. Clone Wars, right? Yes. It's a throwaway line in A New Hope, isn't it? I fought with your father in the Clone
Reegs: The Clone Wars.
Sidey: So now we have to mine that for everything it's
Reegs: everything it's worth? We had seen in
Sidey: We had seen in the prequel trilogy, they buggered off to Genoa, wasn't it? Where those guys with the really long
Reegs: the really long
Sidey: is that what it was?
Reegs: what
Sidey: What is that?
Reegs: Camino's, where the lab is? Is that, where
Sidey: Is it But is the planet called Genoa?
Reegs: No. Genoa is the one where they have the final battle, I think with Anakin and
Yeah.
Sidey: Anyway there's a clone army. And it's always slightly confusing because in this, they're not stormtroopers.
They're just clone
Reegs: Yeah. Well they they're clones. Yeah, they're
Sidey: There's just a clone army that work for the Republic. But go on to then be stormtroopers
Reegs: Stormtroopers. Yeah.
Sidey: in the Empire. And this was Seas 1, Episode 5. Air quotes, rookies. Yeah, and it's some sort of outpost that's sole purpose is to put out a
message about whether something's all clear or not.
Reegs: Yeah, it's basically, yeah, see, everything okay is alarm, essentially but it's very important. They've got to, they're the first line of defense to notify the rest of the Republic, whether there's going to be an invasion,
Sidey: and they're worried about General Grievous.
Reegs: Yeah. At first it's got that moon type vibe almost of like, you know, bored people and banter and
all that kind of thing.
But then there is a commanding officer and all that stuff. They're told no droids are supposed to get past the facility, that's the like number
Sidey: the like
Reegs: Um, but wouldn't you know, a bunch of droids do turn up.
Sidey: I'm trying to remember how they get, get in.
Reegs: It's a meteor shower.
Sidey: That's right, yeah, yeah, yeah. They go, oh. Because they're all, like you said, they might have been bored. And then someone says, well there you go, it's a meteor shower. And then he sort of eye rolls about that. Like, oh god, it's just a fucking meteor shower.
We know that there's going to be something in that there meteor.
Reegs: meteor.
Sidey: Yeah, I think He's got those binocular things that they use and he sees that actually it's some sort of landing craft that's come down and It's just full of those droids.
Reegs: They're quite menacing, these ones, though.
Sidey: I did immediately think these are way better than the shit ones, the comedic ones that we had in the movies.
Reegs: not those. These
Sidey: They say they're commando ones or something, don't
Reegs: Yeah. There's a big battle but the soldiers can't,
Sidey: What I did notice is when I put it on, on Disney, it said age 6 plus. And I was immediately like, fuck, loads of
Reegs: People are dying. There's stakes in this. They introduce characters that you
Sidey: you like. I mean, they execute. They execute the guy, he's prone on the floor and the droid just fucking shoots him in the, you know, and you're like, oh.
Reegs: the droid just fucking shoots him, and, you know,
Sidey: Three escape.
Reegs: oh. Oh,
Sidey: four escape.
Four escape. One gets killed by a giant eel.
Reegs: eel. And
Sidey: He just gets munched because Star Wars likes to have these
you know, creatures flying around and yeah, so then there's three of them left and all the while we, we cut back to Anakin and Obi Wan
talking to Commander Cody and he's going on some sort of
Reegs: he's supposed to be there on a not an investigation. What's it called? Wait, they're checking up
Sidey: Yeah, just, just going around, you know, just checking up that everything's running as it should and he, he does turn up. And if you recall, all the droids say a word twice. I can't think of what it is.
Reegs: Roger, Roger.
Sidey: They say Roger, Roger. That's their, like, gimmick. And when he presses the thing and that eye robot comes.
Remember it was in Return of the Jedi originally. It comes out of Jabba's palace and it blinks because
Reegs: It's all about
Sidey: do, they have to, like,
Reegs: same shit all the time.
Sidey: And
the, he sees the video of someone in a It's not a Stormtrooper outfit, it's the clone soldier
Reegs: Yeah.
Sidey: But it says Roger Roger and he immediately smells a Mmm, something's not right here.
So they trick them to open the door, doesn't they?
Reegs: And the guy comes out and he's acting real fucking weird.
Yeah. Like, he's a storm trooper, but
he's
Sidey: stormtrooper, but he's like, moving around. He's
Reegs: exactly like that
Sidey: that. And the guy
Reegs: the guy just fucking executes him on the spot because he realizes who he is. Yeah.
And then there is another big
Sidey: is. There is another bit called
For droids, who you would think would have some sort of targeting computer way of aiming, cannot hit a fucking barn door.
So these two clone soldiers kind of hide between some blocks and the three rookies are able to send up a, well they've already, they've sent up a flare but they basically are able to shoot enough of them in the head, these droids, that they, they can escape down. And reconvene with the other three and come up with a plan about how they're going to take the bass back because essentially they need to turn off this
Reegs: That's right, yeah.
Sidey: Which
is being broadcast which will allow General Grievers to get access to the quadrant or whatever the fuck we're talking
Reegs: So, his plan, Rex comes up with a plan, it's turn the tables on what they were doing, they go back to the base, and they bring the head of one of the robots, don't they, and they put it in front of the visual thing
Sidey: Roger, roger!
Reegs: Roger, Roger, he says, like, oh my, you know, communicator's broken or whatever, and when he opens the blast doors, they all comment on how absurd it is and it will never work and all that, and then it just works, like,
Sidey: The, the commander, Cody and his right hand man, they've established what they call 'em squeakies. Yeah. Because they's shiny, shiny, just shiny new, you know, these, these
And
they're going to basically have to step up and do this to save the fucking, Save the day here. So
Reegs: And stuff happens, and
Sidey: Yeah and
Stuff happens and essentially one of them gets trapped in the
Reegs: He is a moment of self sacrifice, basically, where two of them escape and the one, he's like,
Sidey: he's got a mini gun type and he's
Reegs: off dozens and dozens of
Sidey: kills loads of them and they're telling him to get out and he can't he's got.
Droids to the left of
Reegs: the right. And then he sets off the liquid MacGuffin.
Sidey: And I'm like, wow. And again, I was like six plus. And then we just had someone sacrifice himself to blow up another droid.
Reegs: And it, and it works. It drives General Grievous and his people back and they move.
So this act of sacrifice to them. And then we go to
Sidey: There's an awards ceremony.
Reegs: Yeah. And the surviving members of the. You know, they're not shinies anymore,
Sidey: Yeah, they're given
Reegs: whether they've deserved their medal
Sidey: They're given a medal. Yeah, and he says I don't deserve this We you know someone on our team died and he says listen Fucking shit ton of other people would have died if we hadn't done that. So, you know sucks that some we lost someone but
that's war. What is it good for? And that's the end. We get the duh duh duh duh.
Reegs: Da da da da, yeah. Do you like this?
Sidey: Yeah.
Reegs: It's good.
Sidey: It's good. People, I think, I've never watched it on a clone myself because I just couldn't be bothered to get into it. It's quite a long series. Yeah. But, Star Wars fans, this is one of the ones they really like.
Reegs: ones they really like. It's got
Sidey: It's got, I think Jon Favreau gets involved in it and the other fellow whose name escapes me obviously really into it and trusted by George Lucas to, to run with it.
That's him, yeah. And so it runs and runs and it brings in, like, Ashoka and loads of other characters that people really
Reegs: other characters that people really like.
Sidey: Yeah, I didn't know who that was. And a friend of mine at work who's super into this. He's like, I'll give you, you don't have to watch it all. I'll just give you a list of all the like main episodes.
I
can't be
But having watched one, I was like, do you know what, if I had more time, you know, this is something I could get into.
Reegs: Did you like the animation style?
Sidey: Do you know what, not, that's probably one of my least favorite things about it. It's just a bit.
Reegs: It's very stylized it looks like they've they're like wooden marionettes like the old Thunderbird type
Sidey: like the old Thunderbirds.
I think considering
Reegs: Think considering it is quite old at least the CGI has held up because when you have a strong design at least even if you Don't like it the design itself holds
Sidey: up. It's
Reegs: got very strong style
Sidey: This is, yeah, this is one of the better, kind of, Star Wars expanded universe properties I could get into it, yeah, definitely.
What do you think?
Reegs: think? I really like this, and this was a good episode, because it felt like a very self contained story within, it was almost like a comic book, you know, that sort of
Sidey: yeah, no, strong recommend, a genuine one.
Reegs: Yeah.
Sidey: That's that.
Reegs: So, big fan of Infinity Pool, Chris.
Yep. And huge fan of Star Wars.
Cris: Massive.
Reegs: Yep.
Sidey: Same. I'm going to nominate for next week. Do you want to know what those are?
Cris: we do? Yes, of
Sidey: Have we ever done top five princesses? I think we might have, although we did, I think there might be Disney that could have been specific to
Reegs: I think it was just princesses.
Sidey: I can't match on the top five then, but we're going to do for a princess bride.
Reegs: Nice.
Sidey: And then main feature is Princess Mononoke.
Reegs: Okay.
Sidey: And there'll be some sort of animated princess thing. I think we've done Sophia the First, have we? don't
know. But it could be Sophia the First or it could be something else.
And then the top five related to that in some way.
Reegs: Okay.
Sidey: So Princess Week, that's what it is, Princess Week.
Cris: Princess Reek,
Sidey: Princess
Bride is live action, Mononoke is Studio Ghibli, that's animated.
Cris: It's
Sidey: That's fucking rad. You can watch, you got a
Reegs: is it on Netters?
Sidey: Yeah. You can watch that, dubbed, or with subtitles. It's your
Cris: No, no, subtitles. I'm not, I can't do dubbed.
Sidey: it's animated, so
Reegs: yeah. I, I, it is a dilemma, isn't it? This
Sidey: a
Cris: grew up with subtitles
Sidey: it,
Cris: how I learned
Sidey: one?
I grew up with subtitles, though. I told
Reegs: It depends.
Cris: subtitles for everything. Well, not for animation. Animation, Cartoon Network was only English. Like, it was just English. Nothing dubbed, nothing subtitled.
So, it's just English and you deal with
Reegs: Mm-hmm.
Sidey: You deal with it.
Cris: But, yeah.
Reegs: suppose that's
Sidey: how we're doing it, anyway. So,
Reegs: We've never done a GBI before, so
Sidey: that
Cris: know. What
Sidey: Japanese.
Cris: in? Japanese. Ah, okay. Hai.
Sidey: Yeah, like that. All that remains is to say, Sidey's signing out.
Reegs: res has left the building.