Hughs & Heretic

Heretic

Reegs: Welcome to Bad Dad's Film Review,

the podcast that is to film criticism

as a rectal. The thermometer is to romantic

foreplay. This week

promises to be humorous and humongous as we explore the wonderful world of humanoids with the top five hugs from

hefner's to firmly witting

stalls. It's a real hue Done it, and let's hope we

don't humiliate

ourselves.

Dan: Good set of hues. I like it. Huge.

Reegs: Our main feature sees us

psychologically waterboarded by heretic, where Hugh Grant trades floppy hair and stuttering for psychological manipulation and religious terrorism. It's basically Willy Wonker and the chocolate factory. If the chocolate factory was a suburban house, wonker was a theological sadist and instead of golden tickets and increase, it's an increasingly more sinister set of deadly rooms designed to make you question your faith in God.

Let's meet this week's proof that God either doesn't exist or

has a genuinely sick sense of humor. Starting with Dan, he remembers when monotheism was just a trendy, new fad

and

his fuck [00:01:00] reservoir ran dry decades ago. Prompting the Environment Agency to issue a severe drought warning with no end in sight

Dan: zero.

fucks.

Reegs: There's breathtaking Chris whose cinematic preferences demonstrate the kind of sophisticated taste you'd expect from someone

who exclusively masturbates

to footage of car accidents. Unless it features at least one decapitation, Chris thinks it's performance art for pompous wankers.

Cris: Exactly.

Reegs: And

rounding out our dads, the

man who's been doing missionary work all week and consequently knows exactly what it means to receive the Holy

Spirit through aggressive oral

communion. It's side.

Sidey: hello?

Reegs: And then there's me res Hello? Hello.

Cris: Hello.

Dan: Hola. How's your, your week been? S

Reegs: It

kind of. Sucked balls, to be honest.

But you know, Because it's probably on the way up from here, so.

Dan: Okay, nice. Yeah. Well, well, don't guarantee that. I was just, I mean, we were just talking off air before that and we've got a hero in our,

Reegs: we do

Dan: in our midst. And it, it's worth recognizing that [00:02:00] right at the top. I mean, it's not all the time.

I mean, this, this pod has obviously been involved in saving many lives but none, none quite as special as the one that Chris saved.

Cris: I know. Yeah. I, I, should I walk you through it?

We went for dinner, for dinner and lunch in, in the same restaurant as Sidey was, which then they were sat right across the room from us.

So they had a great view of our table and we had a great view of theirs. And I dunno, because y yesterday was Kira's birthday. Went for lunch and she was trying to tell me something while she was trying to eat bread and she just stopped breathing and I could see her just going and, and I was like, are you okay?

And she

Dan: After 10 or 15 minutes of that, you just think I better do

Cris: something. Yeah. And, and she kept doing it. I was like, alright, well I'm gonna Okay. Arms across your chest. I'm gonna try to, and luckily it wasn't too difficult, but dis

Dan: dislodged, but have you done that before the Heimlich maneuver?

Cris: No, but I, I know how to do [00:03:00] It

Reegs: Yeah,

did any, did something like

Cris: No, No, no, It was, I think it, it

Dan: just didn't hit side you across the other

Cris: is it, it expands the trak here

because you press underneath,

Reegs: underneath

Cris: Yeah. So, so you, it opens up either whatever the crumble the fish or whatever the piece of food stuck either goes down or goes out.

If you. Choking on a dick. I dunno. Yeah. So, yeah, that and, and she was like, oh yeah, that was really smooth. No one saw that. And then we,

Dan: Yeah, they saw it okay

Cris: And then

Sidey: Katie didn't have a clue. I was like,

oh, that's

a bit

dramatic.

Reegs: Oh

Sidey: like, what do you mean? She's like, Chris

has just done. Done.

she's like, what?

She, she goes, I thought he'd upset him. 'cause then

Kira's like, you know,

Dan: yeah it

Sidey: And then, so I thought Chris has said something

that upset.

her.

Reegs: No, he'd saved her life.

And then you just carried on, had

to finish

Cris: Yes. That was the bread. So we had to go through, well she had three courses. I only had two. So yeah, she went through it perfectly and threw a few glasses of [00:04:00] champagne and everything else. So

Reegs: you'd need to,

Cris: was fine. Yeah.

And we turned, it turned out to be quite a really nice day.

Sat around the pool after our lunch and cocktails. Cocktails.

Dan: was it her actual birthday? Yes. Yeah. So, I mean, even if you always think those people that, that are born and die on the day that they're

Reegs: yeah. That irony.

Dan: it makes it.

Sidey: full circle.

Dan: for the math. Whenever they, you do

Cris: Yeah. I was, she's still young. I wouldn't

Dan: Yeah, no, it's too early for that

Cris: you know, so

Dan: sure.

Reegs: Glad

Dan: clarity. Yeah. No, it's, it's, it's, it is, it's well done. Well done. A

Reegs: Yeah. Well done,

Dan: of applause. Another hero within the midst.

Sidey: Did anyone watch anything?

Dan: I did watch something. On top of the on top of the homework homework I watched tinting.

Sidey: Oh, okay. I, I recommend

Dan: it before. And Sonny's over and we were just go, oh, what should we watch? What it, oh, let's watch this. And it's just fucking brilliant. It's really such a, a great,

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: For a [00:05:00] pg

Reegs: how does the, animation hold up? 'cause it's amazing.

Dan: Like it's just Absolutely. I can't understand how they've not done another one

Sidey: it was a big flop.

Dan: It's definitely not a big flop. The people dunno where the fuck they're watching if that's a flop.

Reegs: Well, they weren't watching It I think that's the problem,

Dan: isn't it? Yeah. It's marketing that maybe, but it

Reegs: it's a European

thing. Tinting isn't

it? More than

Sidey: Yeah. Belgium isn't, isn't it

Dan: Herge. Yeah. But this was, if you've not seen it, adults, kids, it just transcends it all. It was just fantastic. Really, really

Sidey: good.

What about you?

weeks?

Reegs: No, not a lot. Really Didn't have a lot of time this week for,

for extracurriculars

Sidey: Christian.

Cris: I don't think I watched anything. Although I, it's gonna be quite funny because I watch, I finished the last episode of the Counter Monte Crito, which is, it's a 2025 production, whatever.

I, I enjoyed that. It's the same, like they, they twist a lot of it because the book, you can't replicate everything like it is in the book and it can be quite complicated. It was nice and I enjoyed it [00:06:00] and I'm happy it's finished, it's done. Everyone's happy. And I, I've started watching the heretic. I fell asleep and because it's on Amazon Prime.

Yeah. I woke up and the, a movie called The Monkey.

Reegs: Oh yeah. Started, Okay.

Cris: I

was 15 minutes in. Yeah. So I basically watched about 40, 40 minutes of the heretic and then another 40 minutes of like, kind of the, the middle bit of the monkey.

Dan: Interesting review then, isn't it? Yeah.

Cris: So, I, I'm honestly, I, I dunno how that happened, but

Dan: let's see if that blends in later in the review.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: So I, I, I hope that helps and I hope I'm not offending anyone with my lack of knowledge in

Dan: as

long as

Reegs: it's not that

Cris: my carefree approach to watching films. But, and, and then

Reegs: have

a lot of

knowledge about the monkey.

Cris: And then Kira came downstairs and she's like, wow, this is, is this all still going?

Sidey: Deb Patel?

what?

Cris: No, it's

Theo James.

And do you know, I, for a horror, I would say I quite [00:07:00] enjoy as much as I've seen from it. I haven't finished it yet, but.

Reegs: I've seen. it. Yeah.

Cris: It's, it's almost like a final destination meets

Reegs: Yeah. It has got a bit of final destination

Cris: So, it's like, because it doesn't, the monkey itself doesn't go and attack people.

Reegs: No, but he brings, he's like a curse,

He

Sidey: Yeah. Right. Okay.

Cris: So, so it's, and, and the, the headless woman at the be is quite funny anyway. It's more of a funny horror than Yeah, it is. Than a

Sidey: scary horror. Yeah. Yeah.

Cris: yeah.

Reegs: And Theo James is good. I always like him.

Cris: Yeah, yeah.

Reegs: Quick

review of the monkey there.

Sidey: Cool. I watched Edington.

Reegs: Oh, have you? Yeah. All right. Did you like it?

Sidey: I did like it. Alright. It's

got a bit of a

kicking. Yeah, od gave,

a,

real

said it was bo I didn't find a bore

Dan: it about?

Reegs: It's Ari

Sidey: it?

it's set right Bang in the middle of COVID. And it's talking about masks

and all the

conspiracy nuts and all that sort

of shit,

but really it's, it's a western, really.

It's Pedro pascal's mare heading

off

against Wacking [00:08:00] Phoenix's sheriff different thoughts. And it's, Ari Asra said it gets

fucking violent.

Reegs: He's the guy who Did midsummer.

Dan: Oh

Sidey: It's nothing like that. it's, it's a sort of like a west, modern day Western, but I really enjoyed it. It's good. And he gets to see Iraq in Phoenix's dick, like full on dick.

Dan: Wow. Nice. Okay.

Reegs: Okay. And what rate it

Sidey: his Dick. Yeah.

He's spoiler that, but he's paralyzed by that point,

1. It's just a bit,

it's

not, it's not, it's not optimal

Dick. It's

Reegs: what you'd wanna

Dan: full, full method acting. He's even paralyzed

Sidey: dick. Yeah. Yeah.

Dan: He's he's quite the actor, isn't he?

Great stuff.

Sidey: Someone gets their leg shot off, someone steps on a mine and

gets like, fucking, like really horrendously disintegrated. So there's all that going on as well. Strong recommend.

Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna talk about Hughes Top

five Hughes. Yeah.

And possibly a quiz.

Dan: Well, you tell me You had a quiz.

I

Sidey: Do you want me, we can, go with my quiz if you want.

Dan: could quiz it

Sidey: Is your quiz Ready to go.

Dan: Are they ever? I reckon it is.

Sidey: Well,

go with yours then. 'cause you are

[00:09:00] really the

Dan: well,

Reegs: the quiz guru.

Dan: well, let, let's go through some Hughes first.

Reegs: and then you can, quiz it

Dan: then I can quiz it along.

I was thinking of Hughes and obviously there's the fame issues that, that come to mind. You've Grants and the Hugh Jackmans

Reegs: Alright. Don't go Too quickly. 'cause there isn't that many,

Dan: but well, I'm gonna leave you chat about those ones. But Hugh Hefner,

Reegs: yeah,

Dan: Heff obviously he's passed away now.

Thanks for all the Mammaries. But he's I mean, people I don't think will say he's in a better place. Yeah, he's but he was in

Reegs: not. All right though. Now, is it, when you think about it with the,

Sidey: well,

there's

lots of stories coming out from the girls.

that he

Reegs: Yeah,

that it was like coercive

Sidey: Yeah. very, very controlling and

Reegs: controlling and yeah, Like

Dan: not really followed

Sidey: I think

he had a

type as well.

yeah,

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: It

is possible. I, are you surprised about these rumors?

I mean, I

Sidey: no,

Cris: I was a 12-year-old boy when I ever, probably even younger than that, when, when I've seen the [00:10:00] first Playboy magazine and all these stories and the grotto and the parties and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Dan: I don't really know too much about it other than the, the headline stuff, you know, Playboy Mansion he

Reegs: he was

but he was in like The Simpsons and stuff.

Do you know what I mean? Like Exactly,

Dan: you know, real part of popular

Reegs: You'd only put Andrew Tate in now who's a sort of budget

equivalent.

But you wouldn't put him in

this

Dan: Different marketing.

Sidey: It started off differently though. You know, back in the day it was sort

of

Reegs: aspirational.

Well,

Sidey: the magazine was different, wasn't it? It wasn't just its wasn't it, it had proper editorial stuff but it No, it, it did.

Yeah.

Reegs: yeah.

Dan: Proper writers,

Sidey: just, you know, and then he obviously changed, got more into just the tit side of it than anything else, you know? Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: mate model and all the rest of it. But you can't you can't talk Hugs without Hefner. So, I'm sure he was mention, I say in The Simpsons and there was countless other TV and film that they would just bring him out into.

I

Reegs: he was in Curb Your Enthusiasm as [00:11:00] well. Cameos

Dan: left, right, and center. Always played himself.

Reegs: yeah,

yeah, That's true. Yeah.

There was also

the movie, I dunno whether they ever saw it. Anna Ferris was in it. It's absolutely dog shit called The House Bunny. But

it was about a

Playboy Bunny who gets kicked outta the Playboy mansion.

Yeah, Fucking awful.

Dan: He probably wasn't in that one then.

Yeah.

Well, was he, he gives zero fucks, didn't he? Yeah. But there you go. I'll start us off with a Hugh.

Cris: Yeah. I don't have any, so don't look at me.

Dan: Huge.

Reegs: Well, why don't we go with the reason why we're here. Hugh Grant.

Sidey: yeah.

Dad,

Reegs: Yeah. He, he was, he's he's the quintessential Hugh. Really?

Sidey: Yeah. He's huge

Reegs: in, in, in many ways.

Dan: Well, there might be Hugh Bonneville, who, who makes a,

Reegs: that's enough of you Grant, is it? Or

Dan: No, I'm just saying, you're saying the quintessential one, but he's also kind of

Sidey: well, I'd say Hugh got, is The most famous Hugh.

Cris: Yes.

Reegs: Well, Jackman though as well.

Cris: I think Jackman is more famous [00:12:00] in America. Hugh Grant is

Sidey: Grant came along first. I mean that was the biggest British film ever.

Reegs: And I think

his career, like we were talking about in the other episode, his career has been really interesting.

'cause it started with that sort Foppish English gent

Sidey: thing

Reegs: that

he did in about

a Bo and in four Weddings. And then like, it moved through

like a

real tra trajectory. He sort of did a little spin on that

in about a boy where he was more of a cad, a bit more of a bad guy type thing. And

then Paddington too, Have you seen that?

Dan: But I mean, he's full of romantic comedies. You got Knotting Hill, Bridget Jones' diary as well, which was obviously a huge hit though. I mean, like, it love it. It was or don't

it was, it was a huge hit.

It

Reegs: was, yeah. Massive hit that, and then like he did, there was the whole divine brown thing and he was like absolutely vilified by the press really for getting a blowjob.

Dan: he just lent into that, didn't

Reegs: No. He disappeared for a

long time afterwards though, didn't he? I mean, and then because he was really heavily involved in the phone hacking scandal stuff with the [00:13:00] Levinson inquiry. That's like when I really started to notice like, oh, right. He's actually a really interesting

principled

man doing stuff with his life.

Because he, he recorded some news of the world journalists, basically

fessing

up to

hacking and all that sort

of stuff. So he was instrumental in bringing down a lot of all, like

Rebecca,

what's her name?

The one who was in bed with Cameron and

Sidey: Yeah, yeah, I know the one you mean.

Reegs: Rebecca Brooks was I think, what her name was And all that. So he was all involved in that. And then it's like, disappeared from acting and then came back with Paddington two, and then now this fucking bizarre movie where he is like

been on a real

journey with his career.

Dan: We did the Gentleman Operation Fortune and and the one we're gonna review in it at Wild Heretic which was, you Will, you'll find out soon what we thought of that.

But yeah, he's, you know, a, a brilliant British actor a a really, as you say, interesting guy. He is into his sixties now.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: I wonder if he's, you know, going

Reegs: [00:14:00] listening

to the pod?

Dan: Well, no doubt he's listening to the pod, but I wonder if he's got any real. Meaningful parts left into him. It just sees his trajectory.

I see him Oscar nominated or, or something in the future because he's starting to be loved a

Reegs: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah. Hopefully.

Dan: you know, we'll, we'll see,

Reegs: He'll Get some recognition. Yeah.

Dan: Got any hugs there?

Sidey: Yeah, I have. What

about oh, that's my, nom. what about Hugh? Laurie?

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Well this was gonna be my nom because he

Sidey: Okay.

Well, I'll leave.

Dan: Hugh. No, no, go on. You carry on because there's lots to talk about Hugh.

Sidey: Well,

I,

Cris: is that Dr. House?

Sidey: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I

so him.

first in the. A little bit of Fry and lre was it?

Reegs: Oh that was

Sidey: show.

that they did. Yeah.

And then became really aware of him for the

Black ADD

series.

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: And he

was always, I think,

a descendant of the same family, wasn't he?

'cause he was

Prince George

and Lieutenant George And, and. they were always

this,

Sidey: and they're always

Idiots. Idiots. There [00:15:00] was like simpletons. Yeah.

My favorite being Lieutenant George and black et goes fourth. And then you see him

later on in house where he is like

totally different. And he also, he is a musician.

He's got a jazz band. He's got records out.

Reegs: He's written a Book as well.

Sidey: It's obviously a very, very clever guy. I mean, He is a

Cambridge Was it with Oxford?

Reegs: so. Yeah,

Cambridge.

Sidey: One of those

two with, with Steven Fry. And there was the group. in wasn't, there was the comedian guy, Tony Slattery. I think he's dead now, isn't he? Is

he? And the actress. lady's very, very good.

and His name's completely escaped

1. But there was a group of
2. and They all, you know, went to drama thing together. And all of them made it in Some way, shape or form.

Reegs: He was a competitive rower. Really? Did you know this? He won the British National Junior Coxed pairs l in 1977 who f following

in his father's footsteps. He won an Olympic gold in rowing

Sidey: He is our man.

Reegs: Yeah. At the 1948 London Olympics. And he's still a member of

the

Leander Club, I think it is an old English rowing club where he shows up every week.

Sidey: a tough sport that,

Dan: Rowing. Yeah. Yeah. I had to go on the rowing machine at the gym, and I was like,

Sidey: well, I did the S of Jersey Row race, so I can tell you it's fucking [00:16:00] hard.

Yeah.

Dan: Well,

okay, just take me out.

I had to eight, five minutes on that. But yeah, he also did, while we're talking about Hugh, Laurie Geeves and Worcester, which was one of my favorites absolutely loved that series. Just so brilliant writing brilliant acting with him and Steven Fry. Loads of last, he did some stuff from

John Laca, the night manager.

He played like a, you know, his range between comic and also real serious actor where he can play a, a villain and everything.

Brilliant.

Sidey: He's Emma Thompson was the actress I was trying to, think of.

Dan: right. Okay. Yeah. Earlier. And he's. You know, I think, again, I dunno if it's just the name, but one of the, the brilliant

Sidey: cracked it in America as well. That's

Dan: Yeah, yeah.

One of the brilliant exports of, of British film and tv.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: We are looking at Crispy. He still doesn't have any Hughes. Well, Hugh Jackman, you must know a Hugh Jackman

Cris: I'm not gonna take Hugh Jackman when [00:17:00] you actually did research on him. And I'm just gonna say, oh, I've got Hugh Jackman and then I can say, oh, he was Wolverine and

Wolverine

Dan: Wolverine.

Was he? Okay.

Sidey: else is here.

Cris: and he pals with Ryan Reynolds and he went to see Rex him a couple of times and he's

Reegs: right.

Cris: I dunno, in that publicity stunt, I can just say random shit I've seen throughout my social media

Sidey: than I've got down here

Cris: when they've done the, I've

Reegs: I've just got Hugh

Jackman, that's what I've

got written here.

Cris: They've got the, him and Reynolds and I think maybe Gillian Hall, which apparently is pronounced Ian Hall.

Reegs: Oh, In prisoner.

Cris: No, but they, they promoted some film, but they had like Christmas jumpers obviously in America's Christmas sweaters and they stitched him up to show up in a Christmas jumper.

And Reynolds and Jill Hall came in dressed as like shirts and shit. And he came with, I dunno, the proper shit, Christmas

Reegs: jumper. They pranked him. Good, Didn't they? That'd be Mildly inconvenient for a few seconds.

Sidey: Rumor was on the interwebs this week

about,

Ryan

Reynolds and Robert

Danny Jr. Had had a,

Cris: having sex?

Sidey: No, they had a [00:18:00] fight,

Reegs: Oh, what, like a fist

Sidey: on

the set of

Dean Stage.

Yeah.

Cris: Wow. Okay.

Reegs: sounds like it's gonna be

shit. They're still writing it as they're filming it. That

sounds fucking awful. They had a fight.

Sidey: Yeah. Proper blow up

Reegs: Downey Jr. I can sort of see that happening.

Cris: I hope they'll

Sidey: Ryan Males is a ball.

have

his, his persona. I

Reegs: someone filmed it.

Sidey: Mm-hmm. I never

see the light day. What about,

Cris: well, you can tell us more about Hugh Jackman. I didn't,

Sidey: Well, he is good. He is good at singing Isn't he's in lay Miserable and he is also

in,

The Greatest Showman.

Cris: The Greatest Showman. He was good in that and,

Reegs: my wife essentially

dragged me to the cinema Cile miserable.

And I absolutely loved it.

Cris: Yeah, it was nice. A bit dark, but it was nice. Yeah. Yeah. I read the book as well and it was quite accurate. Although, I mean, the book, nobody sings, but,

Sidey: about,

Jack Quaid? Yeah, He plays Huey.

Reegs: was gonna be my norm. Nice

Sidey: Camp Bell. Yeah. In the

boys. Okay. we'll say that

more

Reegs: No, no.

Go for it.

Sidey: It's

that's it. That's all I got. 'cause that's it.

Reegs: He's

[00:19:00] obliterated by the, a train in the opening moments of the comic. And I believe the series,

Sidey: Yes. that's how it starts. He hold, holds the arms. It's

Reegs: holding his girlfriend, telling her how much he loves her.

Dan: she just steps out onto the sidewalk? Off the sidewalk.

Reegs: a speedster. like the flash just comes through and just runs through her and she. just Explodes in a cloud of like meat and dust, like, and he's just

left holding

her arms. And that sort of propels him into his hatred of superheroes.

Sidey: Who can't

Dan: Who can't be touched to, who are just beyond reproach.

Even for something as horrible as that. They Exactly. They do far too much good to be told off just for running through one

Reegs: they don't really do any good in, in the boys universe at

Dan: but, but in,

they're

Reegs: by corporations and the

Dan: Yeah. Within the, the media and everything. Yeah.

Reegs: Untouchable

Dan: the, untouchable, the untouchable lot.

That's a good one.

Reegs: one. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. Howard Hughes.

Reegs: Yeah, of

Dan: course. He was made famous by Leonardo DiCaprio. No, that's not true. But I mean, Leonardo DiCaprio did obviously make the, the film [00:20:00] of the, the Aviator. And Howard Hughes was this incredibly clever intelligent guy who slowly just. Kind of became more and more withdrawn his paranoia and, whatever he was suffering from potentially syphilis

Reegs: mm-hmm.

Dan: Something like that. I dunno that he'd he had just sent him crazy and he was paranoid. Everybody, bacteria, he had to keep everything really clean, didn't he? And it was he couldn't share a cup or he couldn't wa even, you know, open a door handle that somebody else had

Reegs: Phobe. Is that what that's called?

Sidey: Yeah, I think so.

Dan: Is it? Yeah. And it was a, a, a fascinating portrayal. It was one of those that Leonard DiCaprio is so good at those character actors and things, and really, I think he got a, I think he got an Oscar nod for it. I dunno whether he won the Oscar for that. Did he?

Sidey: No, he, for the NY one?

Reegs: Yeah,

Dan: for the t he won.

I think he got a nod for it though. I think he was, academy [00:21:00] nominee.

Reegs: you mentioned the Revenant.

Do you remember what the main character of the Revenant was called?

Hugh.

Hugh. Glass.

Dan: Hugh

Sidey: Huge Glass. Huge glass

Reegs: Glass. So another Hugh, that DiCaprio.

Sidey: Nice. Couple of music ones.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Well,

really only two.

Hugh

Hopper.

Reegs: Mm-hmm.

Dan: Mm-hmm.

Sidey: Dennis's Dennis's Yeah. Niece. He was the bass player in Soft

Machine.

and Hugh Cornwell. Right.

Dan: Right.

Related to the writer.

Reegs: Patricia.

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: He's the front man of the

Stranglers.

Reegs: All?

Sidey: They're rad. So

we should have known him. And then

I've just got my nom, I've just got what?

I'm gonna Nom left.

Dan: Okay, well, before you nom, let's have the quiz, which is huge.

Hugh, or you. Okay. So that is gonna be your answer.

Sidey: huge

Reegs: huge, Hugh, or you.

Sidey: Okay. So

Dan: you're gonna say which one it is. And and this is gonna go really well.

Reegs: Do you have to make a sound or [00:22:00] something? How do we, or do you just shout it

Dan: What, what your Well should, that's a better way to do it. Chris, you're involved in this as well.

Could I hear your sound

Cris: Eh?

Dan: Re Yes. Okay. Right. And you to follow that sound with the, the word Hugh, huge. Hugh or you so, who was so large, they might compete for screen time with a Steve past mellow man in Ghostbuster. Huge. Hugh. Or you just, just say it.

Cris: You.

Dan: Yes, Hugh. Huge. Did you say huge?

Sidey: Or

Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, He did. He did.

Dan: He did. Right. Okay. You won N one nil to Chris.

Sidey: Well,

I don't.

Dan: okay. Who played a brilliant but cranky doctor on tv, but never tried out for Dr. To

Reegs: it was Hugh?

Dan: It was Hugh There. He gets it. See? There you go. Who always gets top billing in their own life story, even bigger than a star?

you,

[00:23:00] it is right.

It's right. Which one is big enough to be cast as the Empire State Building in King Kong?

It is huge. Yes. It's King Kong. He's huge. Who's famous for wooing? Julia Roberts in Notting Hill, but never played

Sidey: Spider Spiderman. Hugh,

Dan: it was you. Yes.

He didn't play Spider-Man.

Sidey: It's true.

Reegs: It's true,

I suppose.

Cris: true. Yeah. You can't argue with that.

Reegs: Was

that

gonna be part of the clue? imagine if you had to, you

were just given,

Sidey: It Didn't play

super.

Reegs: it didn't place Spider the man.

Dan: Yeah,

he didn't. If the quiz was the Breakfast Club,

Reegs: Hugs

Dan: You were, you know, you eliminated for the rest of this question, please. And if the quiz was the Breakfast Club, who's always sitting at the coolest table? Huge. Who or you?

Sidey: You.

Dan: That's correct. Yes. Gotta be you, isn't it?

So that was that was question number six. Well, I think you've got one. I've

Sidey: I've got two. [00:24:00] two. here.

Dan: There's two here. You must be on, on zero as

Reegs: well. No, you've got the

Dan: and they've got the first one. So it's 1, 1 2.

Reegs: this is

the decider then,

Dan: and it's no, there's a few more before any deciders are called.

Who you gonna call if you need someone to play a movie? Monster. Bigger than Godzilla? Huge. Or Hugh?

Reegs: Huge.

Dan: Yes. You've gotta call somebody huge, haven't you?

Reegs: You do. yeah. You do. have to

call somebody.

Dan: Huge. Right? Which one? That puts you on two. Yeah. Which one performed in Lynn? Bleh

Sidey: Hugh.

Dan: It was Hugh came

Reegs: He

Dan: be quick, you

Reegs: did his, I think his buzzer works Better.

Dan: Okay. With two left. 3, 2, 1.

Reegs: Okay. Is that right? So you could still draw

Dan: you can still draw this if you have, who has the best heroic?

Reegs: you

Sidey: Ah,

Dan: who has the best heroic origin [00:25:00] story better than the Avengers? Hugh Huge. Or you,

Cris: eh, Hugh.

Dan: Wrong.

Cris: Okay.

Sidey: eh, Huge

Dan: wrong. It's you. You've got a better origin story than all those guys, haven't you? Who is the one most likely not to appear in Jurassic Park as a rampaging dinosaur? Huge. Huge. Or

Reegs: You, you

Dan: You No.

Reegs: Yes.

Dan: No, it's not. Yes, you

Reegs: are.

Dan: Anybody

else?

Yes, it is. He is nipped it at the end there.

You more

Reegs: that Hugh Grant or Hugh would,

Dan: can't argue with what's written down here. I mean, the, these are the answers. Again, Cy, you know, you've just missed out on, on winning. On

Sidey: I had one That was, it was

Hugh or Spew.

Dan: Oh, okay. Right.

Sidey: wanna, do you wanna just rattle through a

Dan: I would love to, yes, I'd love to.

Sidey: So you answer

Hugh or

spew. Depending on whether a character in

this thing is

[00:26:00] either called Hugh or they spewed or they

spewed.

Dan: I love this.

Sidey: Let's go with. We'll go with

an easy one.

Now there are a couple but the answer is both,

right. Okay. That's worth two points. If you get that, that's worth two points. So let's go with

an easy one.

The Exorcist.

Dan: It's for my noise. I didn't really, I didn't define my noise,

Sidey: your name out. But that

was really speed, correct.

Right. We

know what we're doing now.

Noting Hill

Dan: Hugh?

Sidey: Correct.

We'll Go

with

Reegs: oh, he's sifting through. the cards here. he's, picking out a difficult one.

Sidey: Notting Hill.

Reegs: but that's

Dan: Hugh

Cris: both.

Dan: Oh,

Reegs: Oh, look

Sidey: a both. Jimmy Neutron boy genius.

Reegs: No,

Sidey: No, Hugh is Jimmy's dad.

Reegs: Oh.

Hugh Newton.

Sidey: Do

I

Dan: lose points or do I just

Cris: No, you just,

[00:27:00] just chill.

Sidey: House,

Dan: Huh Hugh

Sidey: And

team America Colon Worlds police.

Reegs: Spew. Yeah.

Sidey: So it went on, and on like that. You see? Right. Should we finish off our

top five?

Dan: Oh, okay. But I, I reckon I got a draw out that well, mine,

Reegs: let's just nominate.

Dan: Yeah. My, well, my norm is Hugh. Laurie is for Geeves and Worcester, just simply

Reegs: Hugh Dennis.

Dan: like

Reegs: from the Mary White

Sidey: Yeah. He was like kind of nerdy, not Milky. Milky

Reegs: was

Dan: also did whose line is it

Reegs: He, he was on every episode of Mock the Week. he Every single one? Yep.

Dan: Alright. Okay. Yeah, I really like him. he's funny comic. I

Sidey: I was gonna go with Hugh Fernley Witting store,

but he mentioned

him in the intro.

So

I gunned him.

And I'm going with an episode of Star Trek Next Generation. It's called I Borg. Oh. It's where they discover on a planet, a crashed Borg [00:28:00] ship, and they are able to well, they've got a moral debate whether they help the Borg or just kill them. They take this one

Borg back and he becomes separated

from the collective.

And they give him a name and his name

is Hug. Yeah. It's My mum's favorite episode ever of Star Trek. Next Generation. Wow.

Reegs: Does he become a part of the team or does

Sidey: no, back to the bo that's Voya when they get seven of nine. But he, he has sent, Is he?

sent back? No.

And he actually comes back

in the Picard

series

as well.

That's very interesting. Yeah. And he was called Hugh. Yeah. Nice.

Cris: Nice.

Sidey: There we go.

Okay. So we need to Hugh,

We did have some feedback,

by the way on a couple of

Dan: love feedback.

Cris: Did we make any more mistakes?

Sidey: No.

Darren said. And he's actually included a, a video, it's Howard's Way and

it's every time

someone says

business

in Howard's Way,

I think he might be a drinking game. And then Mel

has some more twins that we

didn't mention. Michael.

Michael B. Jordan in sinners.

Reegs: I haven't

seen that yet. I really wanna see it

Cris: Yeah.

Sidey: Skeleton twins. [00:29:00] The skeleton.

Reegs: Skeleton twins. Yeah. Bill

Sidey: and Bill Hader? Yeah.

And the parent trap,

which is now the parent. No, I was, that's the other one.

There's

a new,

one isn't

there with

Jamie Curtis and.

Reegs: Oh, Freakier Friday.

Sidey: That's right.

If It's

not that one. And Tweedle D and Tweedle dumb from

Alison. Wonderland. Oh, course. Yeah. And Darren then says Twin Pines Mall from Back

to the Future.

That's right. That's really strong.

But does end up

Reegs: Lone Pine Mall, doesn't

Sidey: says it? ends up being the Lone

Pines Mall. Yeah.

Reegs: one of

Dan: that's, strong twin

Sidey: there. that's

good. Yeah. That's really good. So two, say Two more hues required.

Reegs: please.

Cris: Please.

Dan: Twin hues.

Sidey: Heretic.

Dan: Yes.

Cris: This is just, sorry, this is just heretic. It's not the heretic,

Sidey: No, it's just heretic, Yeah.

Dan: Only heretic, but heretic.

Sidey: Dan? No, basically you nominated a horror film.

Dan: Well, it's a 15, so it's right on the border of scare, I guess.

But,

Sidey: borderline on.

Dan: well, I actually, if we go back to last week's episode, I mentioned four weddings in a [00:30:00] funeral. A funeral

Reegs: A funeral. Yeah.

Dan: said there. And I think it was, it was Cy over there who mentioned heretic to follow it up. And I just went with it even though it was my week and he just wanted to

Sidey: take over Well, It starts off with two girls talking about my favorite topic, was

Cris: the Bible? Oh, yes. Oh, sorry. Condoms big

Reegs: and pornography

Cris: the, the elephant trunk.

Dan: Yeah. There was

Sidey: and they're sitting on a bench that has a massive advert for,

Yeah.

Was It it wasn't

Trojans, was it? Knights? Were they calling it Knights or something? Mag. Anyway,

Reegs: was some

Dan: I think it was

Cris: Magnum. Magnum Condoms.

Sidey: Magnum. They were A brand of, I've

Dan: some over there.

Sidey: Prophylactic for more well endowed

chaps.

Reegs: Yeah. It is Sister Barn in Paxton doing the chat conspicuous with their sort of prudish clothing and their badges that tell that, you know, emblazoned

on their lapel that talk about them being

from the Church

of the Latterday Saints.

But, and they're talking in this opening scene sort of showing that they know a little bit about the world. One of them is talking about some [00:31:00] pornography That she's seen and they're sort of

Dan: pornography.

Reegs: She, She says, oh, they stopped sexing. It was the re the moment she started to believe in God, I think was watching this porn, wasn't it?

And she

saw all the

dignity gone and it reaffirmed her faith in

Sidey: Yeah,

Dan: right. Yeah. So

Reegs: but so, they're, they're not really being judgmental. they're more talking about their faith. It's not a fire, and brimstone

Dan: type. That's right. I think they're getting to know each other a little bit because she asked what was your moment when you really knew about God and,

Sidey: Barns.

Sister Barn says that she's converted. She's had about eight or nine conversions. Yes.

And,

Reegs: her father

died and they auditioned.

I think that comes out later.

Sidey: Yeah. She Auditioned

different religions. Yeah. And Pax, this, she, she seems a

lot more,

Green. She hasn't

managed any conversions yet. And

Reegs: and we

Yes, and we certainly see their characters established that Paxton, Chloe East is that her name.

Yeah. She's the sort of Tery, chattery one in Barnes, The slightly more reserved and, and worldly of the two. And They are on a mission to convert people, like you say, like Jehovah's [00:32:00] Witnesses. You see them going through

the town

again. Not in a particularly, it's not an aggressive conversion way. They're trying to stop people in the streets and generally

Dan: Do you wanna speak?

Yeah.

Reegs: Ignore them as I would do at some

Dan: at one point. Some kids, apologize for holding up the traffic run across the street. Ask,

Sidey: take

Dan: a photograph of him, pull her trousers down skirt down

Reegs: they've got the magic underwear haven't. they?

Dan: That's right. And she, she kind of gets quite upset over this and they're carrying their bikes up and down these stairs which seems a bit of a mission.

And eventually they get

Reegs: like it's, I know. Yeah.

Dan: Go. Unintended pun. Eventually they come

Sidey: a

really inviting looking house.

Reegs: Mm-hmm.

Dan: Yeah, it's, it's, you can tell it's just, it's.

Reegs: it's

a secluded country house, you know, in a quite leafy, overgrown,

Sidey: they have to chain their bikes

1. Yeah. Quite away

Reegs: about Booker Mormon while they do it.

'cause one of them seen it and says that she doesn't like the

Sidey: Yeah. And it's quite away

from

the [00:33:00] house, but they go up and

huge

Grant

Cris: opens

the door looking like a happy chippy chappy older fellow.

Reegs: Yeah. And he's immediately doing his Hugh Grant

Sidey: he's sort of invited them there.

Reegs: Yeah. He's apparently expressed an interest in the church before and has in sort of invited them there to, and they've gone obviously on the 'cause Paxton really wants to convert someone. So this seems like a slam dunk for

Sidey: The weather

Dan: kicks in and it's getting pretty wet out there.

Sidey: But there is rules of engagement.

They're not allowed to go into the house unless his wife is there with

Dan: Unless

Cris: or, or a they say a roommate or

Reegs: Or a roommate.

Sidey: can't be alone with a dude

Reegs: in, doesn't he? And she's like, Hmm.

And

he says, oh no, my wife's there. And They yeah, you're right. They explain that they can only come

in if there's a female

in the house

Dan: pie.

Reegs: And then as they come in, he says this really weird thing

Straight away about there's metal

in the walls. And

Sidey: that's not a problem. You like,

Reegs: way. I hope that's not a problem. And you're like,

what? But

the movie is full of doing that stuff. Do you?

Sidey: dude.

Dan: Yeah. That would've, I, I was watching this with Sonny and I, I said, sorry, that, that would've made me go, why?

Sidey: Yeah,[00:34:00]

Reegs: I know. It's

Cris: just, and also why do you tell me let alone

Reegs: It's all part of it really, isn't it? I mean, you didn't, I know halfway through this became the monkey. for you,

Cris: So that's why I

Reegs: of it. So

he goes off to make tea and this old fashion in his old fashioned homely looking place, there's even like a blessed this mess sign on the wall, isn't it?

And they're all like

Sidey: There's not, there's not a single thing outta place.

Reegs: Yeah. And when he comes back in with the drinks or whatever, he says, his wife's being

shy

and all that, but it, it and you know, he's, They're sort of saying, well, she does need to be in the room with us. And he's sort of charming. It's like weaponized politeness really, because he's sort of bating it back oh yeah, she'll be through in a minute.

Don't worry, I'll get you this. And he's discussing his things with religion at

the

Sidey: same time.

Yeah. And obviously

we know

from the get go that he's

gonna be the villain of the piece, so you're waiting for it to

unfold to something to kick off.

or,

Dan: Yeah. And because you know that he, he, he becomes a little more eerie than you, than the girls think he is at, at the beginning because he's just inquisitive.

He's doing all this. But at [00:35:00] one

Reegs: discuss religion don't

Dan: Yeah. And, and soon after one point he goes back in after asking him to guess which pie. And they say, oh, blueberry. Because they can smell it, but in fact what they can smell is the candle. And as soon as Barnes

Reegs: there's quite a lot before

that though, because he starts talking about

religion and.

Like finding a true doctrine that sort of expresses your faith and all this sort of stuff. So he's obviously heavily into theology or

Dan: doing

Reegs: his at least like amateur theology bit. And then he starts to like dish out a few sort of implied criticisms of

the

church that they come from about its leader, Joseph Smith.

And the, you know, the women the polygamy essentially that is a,

part of

Dan: over the years and, and how, you know, they, they batted back saying, well, that would've been more the mission back in the day when they need to build numbers. And he was saying, well, maybe it was just because

Reegs: he says it, Do you think he used it?

Re he

he says

the big, like criticism that maybe he just used it to [00:36:00] legitimize his numerous affairs, including the one that you had with his 16-year-old made. And all that sort

of stuff.

And then he says, oh, with great power comes great responsibility. And she goes, Spiderman, and he shoots

her a look

Sidey: He never played Spiderman.

Reegs: but

he fucked Yeah, He, didn't play

Dan: There you go.

Reegs: But yeah, he fucks up there. He is not quite

as

smart as he thinks he is. So there's an awful lot of theology talk

in in

this movie. We'll skip through all that part, but he does make this analysis that religion is like fast food and a little bit of variation on all the same thing, which is a theme that he's gonna come back to when things start kicking off.

So they get uncomfortable, they send him out and this is when

Dan: Well, they try to leave, don't they? But the door

Reegs: was, she, this is when she notices the candle in. the room is a blueberry candle, so there's definitely,

Sidey: no cooking going

Reegs: no blueberry pie going being cooked,

Sidey: no. And then presumably

no wife either.

Reegs: So they go to the front door, it's locked, obviously,

and they've got

a problem because they know that their bikes are chained up and their jackets.

are Somewhere else.

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: there's no windows [00:37:00] apart from tiny little ones.

Sidey: they keep seeing like moths or, yeah, Something mos

Reegs: Well, she's already talked about earlier about if she dies, she'd like to come back as a butterfly. Yeah, because spoiler alert, she will, her friend will at the end of the movie. And they obviously don't have any phone signal either because of the metal in the walls and the thing.

But they bluff to him that they've had a phone call when he comes back in the room, oh, we need to go back now. We've had a

Sidey: call, we've

Reegs: we've gotta go off. Can you help us?

Dan: Yeah. It was a bad lie. And one that he picks up a little while into their conversation and calls them out and they realize they're in over their heads now because this guy is not letting him leave through the front door,

Reegs: it's dead.

bolted. Yeah.

Dan: And she, and that's really strange. And he's given them the option then of the green door, the purple door

Sidey: to go Has Barnes has, well, he is not been looking. She's slipped.

a

Sort of daggy thing.

Dan: it's a letter,

Reegs: It's a letter opener. Yeah.

Sidey: said in Case anything he

stabbed. stab him in the neck. with this.

Reegs: takes [00:38:00] him downstairs to, his, he's got like a mock church basically.

In the middle of his, like

descending house.

And

Sidey: he starts off

with board games.

Reegs: starts off talking about Monopoly actually. He start, he puts on the air that you

Sidey: air the hollies by

Reegs: the hollies and then brings out a monopoly.

It's really the movie central thesis that all of the religions, the, certainly the sort of Judaic religions like Christianity and Judaism and Islam are all essentially the same thing.

And then he trying to, tries to trace it back as well through.

earlier

religious.

Dan: And, and through through that he said it's in modern culture. You've got the, the Ho's

Reegs: God, he The Jaja. Binks,

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: Jja. And he does like

the world's worst jja impression. They don't even know.

who he

Dan: Jar Jar, but they, they get creep from Radiohead which was had to pay some money to the hollies for nicking off a couple of the riffs and Melody.

And he talks about how Monopoly was actually invented by a lady [00:39:00] before, apart from the name it was

Reegs: The Landlord Game.

Landlord

Dan: Game. And somebody else came and sold it to the Parker Brothers. Just took it or changed a few

Reegs: a few things, clicked it up. That was Monopoly And then they've got, they do some weird, like, and he, he says, oh, that's the wacky regional variation Mormonism or whatever.

Dan: Yeah. He's got. Bob Ross version of Monopoly and all these kind of different slightly variations of, of the same game. And he's saying basically religion is the

Sidey: just getting more and more intense though,

Reegs: He's getting really intense and underneath it all, he's claimed underneath it to have been through a lot of religious doctrine. And he's claimed to have found the one true religion.

And he wants to express this by having the girls. He's like, you can exit. It's fine. There's these two doors. There's one called belief and one called disbelief. And you get to choose. And off you go. And barnes,

I think shoots

back theologically at him, actually tells him, now you're talking a bit of bollocks. Even though it all sounded a bit convincing. She's like the ones Horace, she talks about. It's like that one had a fucking bird for her head.

Like[00:40:00]

that's not the same as, as Christ as he was drawing his metaphor in that. So she chooses the belief door and they power through.

First

Sidey: they look down, and they're

like.

it's, it's just a banging dark.

Door that's going down, into a basement. And

he says, well, you must've looked at the house when you came

and you know that it's on the the top of a hill, so you have to go down the hill to exit.

And you're like, I dunno,

Reegs: I dunno about that.

Dan: Yeah, it's,

Reegs: dunno if we've already seen him at this point.

Dan: Oh, dust till dawn,

Reegs: of Dante inferno.

with,

Dan: It's like the dust till dawn house. It's just off the back of a cliff. But he goes, they go down to this damp, wet,

Sidey: it's near, it's not just damp. There's water pouring in through the fucking roof. It's

Dan: And it's dark and he closes the door and they realize they're in a fucking shit load of trouble.

Reegs: This woman enters this sort of old, not old, but this haggard, decrepit woman

Sidey: Well, first of all, she's just, she's covered in a,

like

a,

Dan: a

Sidey: a shroud in the whole thing. You can't tell what is holds herself. She She, puts the thing down and then Yeah. Then she sort of buckles herself into this fucking

mad [00:41:00] yoga

post.

Dan: puts the blueberry pie down,

Sidey: and he's, he's. piping some information down through the pa

Reegs: he starts singing creep. He starts

singing.

It's amazing for

Sidey: and then he, he does say, like, you're gonna witness

this is miracle.

This is a, this is a actual,

Reegs: she's a living God is what he

Sidey: said. Yeah. And you're tonight, you're gonna witness a real miracle and, you're gonna realize everything you,

Dan: and it's, it's kind of cut a couple of times to one of the elders from the church who realizes they haven't signed back in.

That's right. And he's on a bit of a mission through the town in terrible weather to, to check the places where they had been and where they hadn't got up to. And eventually he rings on the bell at

Hugh's place. And they, they think it's the elders like, well, let's start screaming and everything, but he's got soundproof doors and he, he comes back,

Reegs: that is actually crucially either side of the scene where she dies.

From eating the pie. Yeah.

And then they're distracted by this [00:42:00] kerfuffle and also trying to get some matches that they're trying

Dan: to, that that's right. So he's

Reegs: they don't notice that something's changed

or they do when they

come back in

Sidey: after because he says this person is gonna eat the pie die.

And you will watch them be resurrected. Yeah. That's what he is telling them.

Reegs: And so indeed, after the kerfuffle with

the tofa grace and

the matches and all that stuff, when they come back, she does resurrect, doesn't she? And she says some weird proclamation at the end of it saying it is not real.

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: Is

all a

bit bizarre.

Dan: Before being led

up the stairs by him again. Yeah. And they're left down. They're still trying to get the matches going. And he comes and helps him with the matches. Yeah. Just lights the, the, the lamp and they've got this code, word of magic underwear they've decided.

And that is when, not Barnes, the other one, she's gonna get air pax and she's gonna get Stabby Stabby because they won't expect it coming from her. Yeah. Because she's been a little more timid and [00:43:00] she knows that, you know, she's Barnes has been a little more in his face and so might expect an attack, but just before, she's about to say magic underwear,

Reegs: she rejects, She also rejects his argument as well. She says not she's describing a, a near death experience. It's not

Sidey: yeah,

Reegs: a resurrection. What we've seen,

Sidey: something they've, they've

also quite important, very importantly, at one point when they've tried to sort of climb out the rim or whatever, they've pulled, they've pulled down some.

Beams

Reegs: Yeah,

Dan: with some nails,

Reegs: on it,

Sidey: they like movies explicitly shown us something that might be

Reegs: It might be useful, That,

Dan: Yeah. It, it is, it is suddenly a, a plank of wood with three rusty old nails sticking out of it.

Reegs: but you're right. So

Dan: like a weapon.

Reegs: Have set it up that she's going to stab him and just as she says, the magic underwear, she says magic.

And then he,

Dan: he cuts, he

Sidey: he's got his little, 'cause we've seen him making little models. and he is got his Model of the calf. and he's moving around and He just slits her throat with it.

Reegs: Yeah.

And that model is really sinister because he, he [00:44:00] sort of made it this like inverted pyramid

of awfulness, a

bit like reminiscent and obviously on purpose. 'cause there's a poster of it, of Dante's But yeah, Yeah.

Dan: and yeah, it is like a little mazes house. It's got no way out.

Sidey: She's bleeding

Reegs: she's abso I thought she was dead.

Dan: Well, well, she, she gets well, she is dead. She gets her, her, her throat cut, doesn't she? And she. Just pissing out with loads of blood and, you know,

Reegs: but then he immediately, and they had shown us earlier, a little like scar on her arm, but he immediately, he must have clocked it and he immediately goes into her arm.

It was so weird, this bit. And he cuts out this, like

Dan: pulling,

Sidey: oh no, that's a vein.

Reegs: that's oh yeah.

Sidey: on.

Reegs: Wha yeah. He's like,

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. And,

Reegs: and then he

pulls out this thing and

he puts it on and he's like, that's a microchip. We're all, actually, what I was trying to show you is that we're all living in a simulated reality.

That was the truth that I was trying to show you. And I was

Dan: and why the candle was flickering differently at

her than

Reegs: an NPC. she's not a real person. You, you, you and I are. And that was the test. [00:45:00] And that's when she,

Sidey: she

figures,

Reegs: figures, she figures that out straight away,

Sidey: She says, no, no. When I came back, the woman on the table was in a

different pose. Yeah. And this is all bollocks.

Reegs: Basically something's gone wrong.

Sidey: you've swapped. The, the other one was dead and you've just swapped it out for another person. To the pressure.

Dan: under pressure

Sidey: I

Reegs: well it's a test of faith,

Sidey: I didn't like this bit. but

Reegs: It's a test of faith, isn't it? And so,

Sidey: and he

says, well, if that's the case, then I must have had to get back into the room to swap the bodies out. And sort of goes around the room and basically finds

there's a trap

Reegs: Oh yeah. And he starts like knocking. He said, that means there must be another way in.

and Starts knocking. Is it here?

Sidey: And she's like, no, it must be under the way. And she finds a trap door. Yeah.

Reegs: She watches the water sluicing

Sidey: down there. Yeah.

Dan: there and he goes, well, that would mean there's a dead body down there, what you choose to believe. And you're like, well, there's a fucking dead body down there is what I would choose to believe because you are that kind of guy.

Sure

Reegs: But as she goes down there and as he closes the thing he says, you'll discover the one true religion down there.

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: And she will, or at least in the [00:46:00] movie's philosophy of what Reed

believes.

Sidey: Yeah. There

is a dead body on the floor. And then she goes through another, the long corridor. She's passage,

Dan: she's got a phone light

Sidey: into another room.

There's just cages and cages of women.

Yeah. Who've been

kept in this room freezing cold.

Reegs: I didn't quite understand this. Did these women all come from the church and he'd abducted them all

Sidey: them all there?

I thought that's what I thought. Yeah. So

he's kept them just about alive enough and brainwashed them

and Yeah. And

forced them to read these scripts.

Reegs: Because this is like a real,

this is

like a 13-year-old who's discovered religious theology. Oh. It's all about systems of control, man. And that's basically what he's talking about.

Sidey: and, and she said

Reegs: religion is control

Sidey: Paxton said, no. what

happens is

you've swapped the bodies out and something went wrong because the script that you gave her to read, she went off

script and

that's when she said it's not real.

Yeah. And she basically explained, and, you're one, because he comes at her and it might be after. 'cause he stabs her, doesn't he? Is it then that she says she,

Reegs: she stabs him with the magic

Sidey: Well, they do each other, don't

they?

Reegs: He, he does her later afterwards, he comes back up after [00:47:00] she stabbed him, she runs back upstairs and realizes she can't get out.

And

Sidey: she's can't get out. She's, he gets outta, because in that room she says the

whole, your whole thing.

this, it, the, your

version of this religion is, is just about

Reegs: control. yeah.

Sidey: And he's like, yeah, you got

Dan: she gets a good knife cut across his throat and he still manages to follow her down and get a stabbing of his own. And he's dragging himself off across the floor,

Sidey: Well, she starts to pray, doesn't she?

And he says, Well

Reegs: pray for us. He says,

Sidey: and then she says, look, praying. Have you heard about the great prayer

experiment? Yeah.

Doesn't do anything. It's just an

Reegs: an empirical study to see whether prayer could have an effect on a

Sidey: population. It's just, People

just feel better when they pray. That's it. It Just, it's, it's a nice thing to think about when you are,

Dan: thinking about

Sidey: to be fucking murdered.

Yeah.

Reegs: yeah.

Dan: And she could have, you know, finished him off probably before. 'cause he's quite incapacitated at, at that point, but

Reegs: he's now preparing to finish her

Sidey: off.

Yeah.

lo

Dan: and behold.[00:48:00]

Sidey: whack

Reegs: Barnes comes outta nowhere actually having been resurrected, maybe.

Dan: well, it's the last thing she does, isn't it?

It's, it's her last act. She is dead on the floor for a good last 20, 30 minutes of the, the film, but she manages to become resurrected as

Reegs: a living miracle as we would

Dan: would and claws him in the face with this plank of wood and three nails that we'd seen earlier.

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: Goes right across his eye.

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: It's horrible. And his

Dan: glasses kills him. Dead.

Reegs: Dead. Dead. Dead. So he's gone. And then Barnes dies almost immediately after that. And then Paxton,

the

surviving sister, climbs out of the window at the top, doesn't she? And then gets out and a butterfly lands on her hand.

Maybe evidence of Sister Barnes passing into The

Cris: that's what

she said. No.

Sidey: life. Yeah.

Reegs: then she looks again at her hand and the butterfly is. gone.

Dan: I like the little model where she just manages to find there's a tiny little channel that leads out that window right in a certain place. Otherwise the [00:49:00] house is completely locked with its metal walls and shit, and it's dead bolts.

But there is that one little exit that he's, he's put into the house and she climbs out there. It's snowing. And

Sidey: I think Barnes sings the

exit music.

Dan: Oh, really?

Cris: Well, does she jump off the house or what's going

Dan: Yeah, she

Sidey: she just

Reegs: comes, Climbs up because it's all,

Dan: she's looking for signal then.

Cris: Oh, Spider-Man.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: looking for signal on the phone

Sidey: just go to the door to get bars on her phone.

Dan: You, you, you assume that she's safe, safe and well, and in a great place. Yeah, it was it, I enjoyed it. I mean, it's, it is one of those films, as I say, that these kind of films. Make me a little bit anxious and nervous.

You know, don't, oh, it's tension. It's, but it wasn't too many jump scares. There was a couple of moments but it was

Sidey: I thought the woman, the, the God thing

was creepy. when she like, Yeah, she was, buckles herself [00:50:00] up and Oh

Dan: yeah, she, she was and I can see why this is gonna be popular. I think it was you know, right now to, as he's, again, Hugh Grant, completely different character, very different from four Weddings.

This,

Sidey: I was thinking when I was 'cause I watched this

first. And then for weddings,

like it'd be great

if you could take that, if Hug got and

sort them around.

Yeah.

Dan: put 'em in there. Yeah.

Reegs: And it is really, there's three people pretty much in this entire movie, barring Tofa, grace, a couple of it's gonna be carried on their performances. And Hugh Grant, is good fun in this kind of role in it. It's good to see him taking. The charm and stuff of his career, but also be like, making it really uncomfortable and weird.

Dan: The two girls I thought were really good. I've not seen them in

Sidey: The

Reegs: Sophie Thatcher was in

Sidey: yellow jackets.

Reegs: Yellow jackets.

Dan: right,

Cris: hair one is pretty, she's pretty.

Sidey: Yeah. The

only problem I have, with it is in the, the,

Like

the

way horror films work

is they, there's

two

girls. And one's more timid than the other. So, you are like, well,

she'll be the

Reegs: the final

Sidey: [00:51:00] has to

go the

distance. Yeah. And

then they

show you the weapon, you know, that falls down

Reegs: bit formulaic

Sidey: It's quite, it's quite funny. But I did

like all the stuff about, you know, hue he is talking about religion. It's like this different way to have a, a serial. killer,

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can imagine there's people like that and their houses or their houses are always really creepy. You know, those kind of things that just, they've designed this house.

It's just

Sidey: I don't think he had gone through building regs or anything like

Dan: that. No. No.

Reegs: How the fuck did he build all that? Honestly, I. put up a toilet roll holder about four years ago, and I still feel really proud of doing

Sidey: that. So

Reegs: this

guy built a series of interconnected labyrinth like rooms

Dan: so cool under pressure when the elder came.

Yeah. He was just full of charm, offered to go and help looking for the girls

Sidey: How these people are down.

Dan: do you wanna use the, the phone? Oh, is there anything I can do When she came back and goes, I would be remiss if I didn't,

Sidey: if you're gonna be comfortable, like carving up women and keeping them so You're gonna be okay talking to some dude.

that comes to

Dan: he's got zero [00:52:00] fucks about it. Yeah.

Reegs: It. was

a very elaborate plan. Really? from him, Wasn't it?

Dan: He, he wanted to prove himself right. And have control himself, didn't he?

Sidey: Ultimately he lost control.

Reegs: But it is a bit like, there is a bit about religious philosophy in there that is quite interesting, but it is a bit, I think if you've read any stuff about it is a bit. Facile, like, you know, the, oh, religion's all a system of control, man. It's like something you figure out when you're about 14. You know, Then it's got to be something more interesting to talk about in terms of religion. I think there is a lot more, but that's just my critique of like,

Dan: yeah, they didn't want to go about too, kind of heavy on, on that side kind of area.

They're trying to keep it as a, a, a, a theme and they were arguing the points that he put in. But for me

Reegs: it's a strong recommend for Hugh Ron

Sidey: anyway.

Yeah. Yeah. Very

Dan: good. Great performance from him. Yeah. Really

Reegs: it. And excuse me, cha

Sidey: and singing

Reegs: creep. I mean, you can't, you gotta live for that shit man.

Sidey: Yeah. Strong recommend. Strong

Cris: Yeah.[00:53:00]

And the monkey,

Dan: huge

week.

Sidey: Massive. I think that it's

someone to Norm,

Cris: possibly me. Yeah.

Sidey: But Mustache

is that, all that remains is to say society's signing out.

Cris: Lot of it.

Reegs: Reese is dropping the mic.

Dan: Dan's gone.