Godzilla Minus One & Godzilla Animated Series

Godzilla Minus One

Sidey: November November 2019 it started and you came in Christmas of that year. Yeah.

Dan: I've only been out two years.

Sidey: been

Reegs: That's,

Cris: I've been doing

it for two years.

Dan: You've been doing it for two years? Well, they only really started when you started doing it, I

Cris: it, I guess.

Dan: my mind. We've been doing this pod for five years.

Well, yeah. Fuck. I did think it was two years.

Cris: June. It was near enough my birthday,

Reegs: that? It was near enough my birthday, yeah, around that 26th

type.

Dan: is? just scary, though. That proves how

Reegs: I know, and it's going to be so disappointing. I've thought about it for about three months and I've like written nothing down. And, yeah, it's going to be so disappointing when we get to episode 500.

And then all the grand plans that we've got to change

Dan: I reckon we've already done episode

Sidey: No, because if you take out the re releases and stuff when we're on holiday, it's lit.

No, it's But maybe we could get Tarantino or Spielberg or someone like that on.

Dan: One of the big guns. Bobs. I'm sure they'll be in touch.

We'll

Cris: Who would be the best British

director?

Reegs: I'd like to talk to Jonathan Glazer, I think

Cris: well, the man United owner.

Sidey: man United are

Reegs: No, what's his name? Oh,

have I fucked his name up? Yeah.

Dan: guy.

Sidey: I would like to speak to Edgar Wright.

Reegs: that'd be good. Or Alex Garland as well.

Dan: Yeah, he's quite interesting, Alex

Reegs: Edgar Wright would be

Sidey: cool. Because then we could get

Reegs: Fucking

Sidey: Simon Pegg on as well.

Reegs: Well, if you're listening,

Sidey: covers as a package deal.

Reegs: if you're listening.

Cris: Nolan

Reegs: Yeah,

Sidey: have to like get the sound all wrong on the pod. Just as a tribute.

Cris: We

Reegs: them all on?

Do you think?

Cris: We do get it wrong anyway,

Dan: get it wrong just naturally.

Cris: Not just the sound.

Dan: Yeah, I mean, David Lean. Would be one to,

Sidey: might have to be a seance though.

They

Dan: may,

may, be a quieter one.

Sidey: What was the, the women in early falls and horses. Is it Eile Partridge or something? It does the sounds in the

Dan: yeah. . Yeah.

Oh yeah. Oh Classics. It leads us so well onto this week's theme and

Sidey: going to do the intro like he

Cris: like everyone else.

Reegs: we haven't even done the intro, have we?

That's weird though, so when do we do it? Alright, okay.

welcome

to Bad Dads Film Review, the podcast where we dissect movies with all the precision and poise of a kaiju stomping through downtown Tokyo. Grab your radiation suits and Geiger counters because it's bad times. Big week, and first up, unfortunately for Sidey, does matter, as we sit down to chat about the top five giants.

After that, we'll be sinking our teeth into Godzilla minus one, or more specifically, we're going all snobby film buff and watching the monochromatic masterpiece that is Godzilla minus color, I think, is that how you say it? And we'll finish things off with a look at the 1979 animated Godzilla TV series to see if Godzuki is just as annoying as we remember him to

Dan: be.

Reegs: All that's left to do is introduce the dad. First up, he's so old he remembers when Godzilla was just a guy in a rubber suit and not in a fun, kinky way. It's Dan.

Next up, he's the dictionary definition of gorgeous, but thinks a th th thesaurus is a type of dinosaur, it's Chris.

Cris: Yeah.

Reegs: And three quarters of the way there, it's the man who actually told me off air earlier that he was getting a bit annoyed with all the double entendres every week, but he'd allow me to slip one in anyway it's Sidey.

Sidey: Such delivery.

Reegs: thank you, thank you, thank you, and then there's me, Riggs, hello.

Sidey: Hello. Hello.

Dan: Hola.

Cris: Well, if it's a Thesaurus Rex, then there's definitely a

Reegs: a dinosaur. Exactly,

Dan: So, Giant Week, what, what possessed you to think of such a large topic?

Sidey: Partially the main film, Godzilla. Right. I do, I like a Kaiju movie.

and I hadn't seen Minus One, so this seemed like a good opportunity, especially as both versions are on Netflix. So, yeah.

Dan: Well, I had seen the first version,

Reegs: Yeah, me too.

Dan: And I think just because it came out first? Yeah. I don't know if there was a few

Sidey: if there's a few weeks left. Well, I'm

Dan: when we dropped the other one as well.

So, And so I was keen to watch it.

Reegs: Yeah, man.

Dan: so we're gonna talk about that, aren't

Reegs: we are, we certainly are. What what have people been watching this week?

Dan: I've been watching actually something on apple tv and it's that annoying shit that they drop in They're dropping the episode every week

Sidey: Oh, one a week.

Dan: Oh,

but i'm into it now. So prime target

Sidey: dunno that

Dan: so you can, they're dropping it on a Wednesday, we're two episodes in, it's about a mathematician at Cambridge who is doing research on prime numbers Neil Morrissey's in

it, no the maybe it's not Neil Morrissey, is it Neil Morrissey?

I don't know, it's a Morrissey.

Reegs: David Morrissey?

Dan: Maybe Dave.

Sidey: the one that was in

Dan: Britannia

Sidey: Yeah Walking Dead.

Yeah, okay. It was the governor in Walking Dead, yeah. I think that is David

Dan: It is David Morrissey, yeah

Sidey: Would have been better with Neil though.

Dan: It would have been

Reegs: And Clunes. Or

Dan: just

Reegs: What is the premise? He's working on Prime

Dan: So he's working on prime numbers

Reegs: What, he's a mathematician, he just does Prime Numbers all day.

Dan: But he's starting to understand there is a connection between prime numbers and the potential of a digital password that could unlock

Sidey: an algorithm.

Dan: of

digital password in the world or

Sidey: but this is

Reegs: All right.

Dan: all the rest of it.

And it opens up with a bombing in Iran, which opens up in a like a lost temple with Iranian library. information being now researched. So it hasn't given a lot away, but we do know that people are watching certain amount. So I'm watching, but people are watching those that are watching these mathematicians and they can log in.

It's the NSA. They can get into every kind of computer, every webcam.

Sidey: Yeah, right.

And obviously be able to crack every

Dan: Password, every password.

Sidey: A

few

Reegs: Oh, just when

even,

Sidey: they have to come up with quantum passwords, which ultimately means we'll just have to pay more

Reegs: man.

Dan: Or just let 'em have it. If you got nothing, you got.

Sidey: got

Cris: I went to the local multiplex twice since I've last seen you because I wasn't here last week because I just couldn't have, didn't have time and also on last Sunday, I, yes, I went to the local multiplex because last Sunday I was meant to go to the pub, but Kira told me like, Oh, you ready?

We are going to the movies tonight. And I completely forgot that I agreed to go to the cinema. And we watched a movie called better man.

Reegs: And,

Cris: We went to watch gladiator two as well. So that was me.

Reegs: well.

Cris: hard

Dan: Really? I thought you'd have an instant

Reegs: I do as well. They were both shit then, weren't they?

Cris: Not as good as I thought. To be fair, and you can pan me for this, but I quite like the Robbie Williams one.

Reegs: I'm quite interested to see

Cris: Because I know most of the music. Whereas if it would have been about someone else that I've never heard their music, I wouldn't really know much about it. So I knew the music. He's a monkey. It's all right.

And it's kind of like a musical with the take that and Robbie Williams music in it. So it's kind of okay, I guess. And the gladiator I was a bit disappointed with because

Reegs: good in it

Cris: he's very good, but

Reegs: And the guy looks just like Mike Raine. You don't know him, do you? But he looks

Sidey: Oh, one of the emperors?

The financing story and stuff about Better Man is interesting.

Cris: He told me that it costs a lot of money.

Sidey: 110 million dollars. And I think it's just about, Claude about 15 of that now,

Reegs: Yeah, because it's released to the Americans. Like, who the fuck is this guy,

Sidey: Yeah, but

Reegs: he a monkey?

Sidey: got loads of Australian tax payers money funded it. It's just so bizarre. Yeah, but they don't give a fuck about Robbie Williams. So,

Reegs: know. I think they were.

Dan: I think there

Sidey: don't think so. Not like that big, but you know,

Dan: big, maybe,

Sidey: and then the decision to make it a chimp or whatever it is, is interesting, but it just means that there's so much CGI involved, which is super expensive and it's like,

Reegs: He's like a performing

Sidey: making the decisions on this shit?

I, yeah, I know that, but I mean,

Reegs: he's like a performing,

Sidey: They won't be following this for much longer because it is bombed.

Dan: about you Rhys? Do you catch

Reegs: I saw yes, one thing I was quite excited about was the Pope's Exorcist.

Cris: Oh, I've seen that. Russell Crowe. Yeah, I've seen that.

Reegs: great fun on Netflix. The, the horror movie that was, that's, he's like. Portly and drinks and rides

a

Cris: really fat

Reegs: and, well, not a motorcycle, a moped. And yeah, also he is an exorcist.

Sidey: Cool.

Reegs: The Pope's exorcist,

Cris: Yeah.

It's so

Reegs: It's brilliant.

Dan: Well I've got to wait till Wednesday before I can update you on PrimeTarget, but if you do, then, I like the way it started.

Go for

Sidey: Okay. Should we just get into it?

Reegs: Yeah,

Dan: That's what we do here.

Sidey: So

continuation of the theme then, big, we're going for giants in this case.

Dan: we have any from the last week? Did we have any top five recommendations?

Sidey: five recommendations? What was the topic?

Dan: It was something other than Giants.

Sidey: Oh, that's

Dan: Because we do a different one each week.

Sidey: Speeches?

Dan: been a week.

It's been

a week. any recommendations, we're

Sidey: gonna, when, when, when we did talk about speeches breach, he recommended or was surprised actually that we didn't get into Rockies. It ain't how hard you hit.

Reegs: Oh, yeah. His

Sidey: dad's speech and even got the little YouTube clip of it there.

So if you want to go and discord, you can see that.

But yeah, let's get into giants. Now I don't know if there's a specific criteria for how big something has to

Reegs: to be giant. Yeah.

I've played fast and loose. I haven't gone for like just kaiju sized

Sidey: no. So my first one is going to be Hagrid.

he's just quite

Dan: warm, us up, I've got a bit of a quiz actually for,

Cris: on.

Dan: it's a factual quiz.

Reegs: are things?

Dan: it's how big are things. I'm going to give you a a list of, of different. Well you'll get it. A, B, C, or D, and you're gonna tell me which one it is. It's a multi thing. This is Norse mythology. And who is considered the father of all giants? Is it Odin, Ymir, Thor, or Loki?

That's what you would say. Anybody else would say the same? The

Sidey: The one that I haven't heard of.

Dan: Okay, what about you? Chris?

Cris: Yeah.

Dan: Odin, Ymir, Thor, or Loki? It is Ymir.

Reegs: Yeah,

Dan: Odin

Sidey: Odin would be the father of Thor and Loki.

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah. Alright,

Sidey: Odin's son.

Dan: You've, you've, you've

Sidey: And Jiminy Cricket is the other one. Jiminy

Dan: Jiminy Cricket ed

Cris: Nail

Dan: What did the Aztec mythology refer to as a race of giant men? Was it the Quinometzin, the Jotun, the Cyclops, or the Titans?

Sidey: Titans.

Reegs: What

Was the

Cris: the

Dan: It was the Quinimetsin, the Yotin, the Cyclops, or the It What are

Cris: First one, Quinemetsin.

Dan: Chris is steering ahead here with two out of two, and you're locked on one each. Wait a minute, I've got more. I've got more. I've got more. Who were the Giants said to be born from in Greek mythology Chaos, Gaea, and Uranus? Oceanus or Tartius?

Sidey: That

last one?

Dan: Last one for you

Reegs: Can we have the question and the answers again please

Dan: Who were the Giants said to be born from in Greek mythology Chaos, Gaea, and Uranus?

Oceanus or Tartius?

Sidey: I'll

go in Tartius.

Dan: You're going Tartius. You're going Chaos

Reegs: I'll go for Gaia. And

Cris: Uranus

Dan: locked it in to each. You're

Reegs: all. Okay.

Mind.

Dan: still lagging behind. You're,

Sidey: Strong start but I've

Dan: just one small step behind one giant leap for this quiz.

Reegs: This

decider

Dan: no, we've got a couple more. But it's still time to win it. Sorry. What characteristic is often associated with the giants in Greek mythology?

They could fly. They had snake like legs. They were invisible. They could

Cris: They could fly

Reegs: could fly. They had snake-like legs.

Dan: invisible or they could breathe fire.

Reegs: God, that's all awful.

Dan: Yeah?

What

Reegs: Snake like

Dan: like legs. It is snake

Cris: Wow.

Say

Dan: Giant step, giant steps. Okay. We've got a couple more. Are you ready for them? Yeah, which giant from Irish mythology is known for his size and strength often depicted as an antagonist. Finn McCool, Drytor, Dryantor, Grogomog or Baelor?

Reegs: I wanna say Finn McCool.

Dan: You want to say Finn

Sidey: I a Bailor.

Dan: You're going Baelor. It's Finn McCool. It is Finn McCool and we'll have a few Irish fans there. No doubt Tullen is

Reegs: That we're McCool as well.

Dan: Now we've got one left. The biblical story, how tall was Goliath said to be? Six foot, eight foot, ten feet, or twelve feet?

Sidey: twelve feet.

Dan: feet.

ten feet. The Bible states he was six cubits in a span, which is approximately nine feet, nine inches or nearly three minutes. So none of them. Yeah, exactly.

Cris: That's

Dan: there you go. That

Cris: Thank you, Dan.

Dan: quiz just to get us into the mood of

Cris: Wow, I like that.

Reegs: And who won?

Sidey: You.

Dan: You're you're the winner.

Sidey: the listeners. I think the listeners won as

Dan: And do you know what the the the fear of giants is called?

Fee

fi phobia. Yes

Reegs: Very good.

Sidey: See, I was talking about Hagrid, and so he's giant ish, but he's not massive.

You know, when I first think of a giant, I'm thinking, you know, fucking enormous.

Pretty large. And

then you have to do some clever sort of trickery to film him, you know, in the Robbie

Reegs: in the Robbie

Sidey: Yeah. And he is this cool dude in the, in the Harry Potter saga.

Riggs doesn't care. He hates it.

Reegs: I like Robbie Coltrane.

Sidey: Yeah. He's dead. He's a crack. He looks out for the

Reegs: looks out for the kids? I

Sidey: they've been new. Everyone.

Reegs: want them back

Cris: might just bring him back from the dead.

Reegs: I hope they get an actual giant, because I'm

Sidey: You're pro giant.

Reegs: Yeah, exactly. I just, we, you know, we have people of colour and all that stuff represented, and all different

Cris: well, they tried to get De Kember Mutombo, but he passed away.

Sidey: away. He did, yeah. Man cannot fly in the house of Mutombo. So, Hagrid.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Starting off small.

Reegs: do we have to go in ascending high order? Because that would be quite

Cris: Well,

I don't know how high, how tall Hagrid was, but I have someone who I don't actually know his real name, but he was in movies and his name was Andre the Giant.

which is always kind of crops up in, in quite a few of our top fives

Sidey: But let's talk about how much he could drink, don't we?

Cris: Yeah. And, and he was an absolute

Dan: Fezzik.

Reegs: I showed my wife today that picture of him stood next to Arnold Schwarzenegger and I can't remember, I think it's a basketball player. And, you know, Schwarzenegger is like in his prime Olympian form as well and he just looks like a toy in between them.

It's just ridiculous.

Cris: Yeah,

Dan: Yeah, that was Fezzik in that, wasn't he? And yeah, he was

Cris: he was, he was in, yeah, he was in a few, a few movies. He was into wrestling and he was apparently a really nice guy. Like a gentle giant, but, but a gigantic man.

Yeah. And he did die at a fairly young age for a human.

Dan: I think he lived a lot of his time on Because, you know,

Reegs: think he lived a lot of his time on painkillers as well because, you know, yeah, it's too

Cris: no? Yeah.

Sidey: I think But human body's not really meant to

Reegs: get that big.

Sidey: Right. I think it Terrible strain on your feet I understand.

Dan: Well, I, I'm gonna choose Gulliver from Gulliver's Travels, but not just any Gulliver. It's the Richard Harris version 1977. It was an animated and film one.

Reegs: Is he a giant? Or are they small?

Dan: Well, he's both, isn't

Sidey: isn't he? Different islands though, isn't there?

Dan: Yeah, in, in one.

Reegs: I suppose,

Dan: In one he's a giant, in the other he's really, really small. But Richard Harris was really good in this.

And I remember you know, I didn't read the book. But this was really a close adaptation of the book. And so you didn't have to read the

Reegs: No.

Dan: And that's the best kind of films.

Cris: Yes.

Reegs: Well, 50ft is quite big, I would say. And Attack of the 50ft Woman. I don't know if you've ever seen that one.

The Daryl Hannah one is actually the one I remember, really, the 1993

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: not that big

Reegs: She's not, no, I think they did a lot of surgery and

Cris: She's meant to be fairly tall though,

Reegs: She's not 50ft though, I don't think.

Sidey: No, I think that's an exaggeration, surely.

Reegs: But she's, she's got like a cheating husband and she goes out to the desert and there's aliens and stuff and she comes back and when she sleeps, she becomes big and she goes on like a kaiju rampage of destruction after her cheating husband.

And it was based on a 1958 I want to say original, which I maybe have seen, but not sure, but definitely the Daryl Hannah one. But it made me think about the attack of the. 50, you know, height something. So I've got a few here for you. Attack of the 50 foot cheerleader attack of the 60 foot centerfold, 10 foot bigger that one, attack of the 50 foot cam girl, attack of the 50 foot gummy bear, attack of the 50 foot hooker, and

Sidey: Is that rugby or prostitute? Prostitute.

Cris: Oh, that's disappointing.

Dan: Eva would be frightening, to be honest.

Reegs: it's true. And the most frightening, I think, is Attack of the 50 Foot Chihuahuas from Outer Space.

Dan: Is that a film? Is

Reegs: It is, it's on Letterboxd, it looked fucking awful.

Dan: should watch That, that's, there's some crackers in there.

Has it come back round to you?

Sidey: it come back round to you? That's the one, I was going to look it

Reegs: That's the one I was going to look it up, I forgot to, that must have

Dan: Birdhouse in your soul.

Not to put a finer point on it.

Sidey: And I'll keep it in fantasy land Lord of the Rings, when they go into the mines of Moria and they awaken the Balrog, the big fiery demon dude.

He's scary, you shall not pass, and then

Reegs: say, fly, run, you fool, fly, you fool,

Sidey: and then he has a sword fight where he's

Dan: giants in that.

Sidey: down. Yeah, there

Cris: it the, like, the Thai sword fight? Like you do in Thailand?

Sidey: Yeah.

yeah. the Balrog.

Cris: I've got a giant snake, although there's a few of them. Obviously Anaconda, Anaconda 2, Anacondas, all that

Reegs: No, but the first one is, is, is really a step apart. Yeah. Because it's got like Jennifer Lopez

Sidey: got one of the Hollywood's new Envoy.

Reegs: Voight. John Voight, giving a really mega performance. It's great as well.

Cris: that's the one I remember, but also I have to give a special shout to the giant snake in Conan the Barbarian.

Sidey: Yeah, he just lops its

Cris: lops its head off? Where will you find giant

Sidey: No, not with that attitude.

Dan: Do you know where you find giant snails? No, on giant fingers.

Cris: Okay.

Dan: Yeah, well, we all enjoyed it at home. BFG was a big friendly giant.

Reegs: Oh, is

that what it stood for?

I

Cris: I thought it says big fucking giant.

Dan: no, he's friendly. Well, I don't think there was a Mrs. Giant. So I don't know. I think he was just friendly.

Sidey: he was solitary. He was

Dan: It was a solitary. Yeah obviously the

Reegs: one are you talking about though?

Dan: I'm I'm talking about the animated

Reegs: David, Jason,

Dan: because It may have been David Jason because they did a live Well CGI kind of version not so long ago

Sidey: Yeah, I think it was, wasn't it? I

Reegs: think I've seen it.

Sidey: I've seen it, yeah.

Dan: Went to the cinema to see

Sidey: So he goes around collecting dreams out of the ether, and then piping them off into kids bedrooms,

Dan: That's right,

Reegs: He gives them

Dan: And he's got huge ears.

Sidey: ears. Yeah, to hear the

Dan: and, but it really didn't go so well as the animated version, the CGI version. He blew it a bit to be honest. It was, it

Sidey: my daughter really enjoyed it.

Dan: Yeah, maybe, maybe, you know, for kids, but I always think those films have the potential to give both adults and kids a great viewing experience.

And that means success for me when it can really hit the notes

Reegs: story, the BFG.

Dan: is a brilliant story. It should work for everyone. And for me, it didn't where the animated version did.

Well,

Sidey: Well, it could just be a bit more fantastical, can't you,

Dan: Yeah, you can, yeah. Well, no, CGI, there's no excuse. And Spielberg you know, he's done one or two things before.

Reegs: Any, any CGI spectacle, It, like, becomes really dated really quickly.

So, you know, They should, I don't know, I have, I can't remember seeing it. They should, they've got to lean into what a great story it is. Because it is

a

Dan: remember seeing it. They should have gotten into what a great story it is because it is a good one.

Sidey: yeah

Yeah, eli manning double superbowl winner with them.

Reegs: Yeah, they play maybe at the MetLife Stadium,

Dan: Bernard Manning was a double Superbowl

Reegs: Yes,

Dan: Wow.

Reegs: yeah that was destroyed in the day the earth stood still. The New York Giants Stadium. Big. Big fan of Tom Hanks. He wears a New York Giants hoodie right the way through it. Have you seen this movie Big Fan with Patton Oswalt?

It's a good one. I think you might like it. He's like, he's just some kind of Lonely guy who lives with his mother in a basement, works in a parking garage. His major thing in life is his passion for the New York Giants. And so he listens to all the games, and he phones into the radio station.

He's got a rival with a local fan on it, and all this stuff. He can't afford to go to the games, so he drives out and sits in the car park and watches the games on the TV and stuff. It's his whole life is his love for New York Giants and through happenstance and whatnot, he ends up following his favorite player from the team.

They sort of see him outside a strip club and him and his mates. They don't want to be caught there and they beat the shit out of him, put him a coma, basically for three days. And he comes to and his brother and who's a lawyer is telling him to kind of sue these guys and go after him, but he doesn't want to jeopardize the team and all that sort of stuff.

So it's quite a good, I won't spoil what

Dan: a good

Reegs: there's still quite a lot of movie to go. But and the last one. Before New York Giants was coming to America. Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big H.

It was a most ripping victory. It was when Eddie Murphy was pretending to be a local resident at the restaurant.

Sidey: Good.

Cris: nice.

Sidey: There is a Fantastic Four movie coming out this year, I think. And the protagonist, usually, for them is Galactus. He's a planet eating, massive, pinky purple

kind of humanoid

Dan: Rise of the Silver Surfer and

Sidey: So, I don't know

Dan: liked

Reegs: He was a gaseous cloud, and he

Sidey: Yeah, so it's hard to portray that without it being completely

Reegs: Ludicrous. Yeah.

Sidey: But they did it with Celestials in The Eternals. don't know if he's even going to be the villain in this, no, but he's one.

And then in the animated Transformers, the movie from the 1980s, fucking Stone Cold, brilliant. One of the villains, well, there's a planet eating thing called Unicron,

Reegs: Mm-hmm

Sidey: who sets things in motion by, he eats,

Reegs: Cybertron,

Sidey: and he also converts Megatron into

Reegs: Yeah. It's played by awesome wells, isn't it? The.

Sidey: No, it's yeah, it was Orson Welles.

Sorry, Leonard Nimoy's in there as well. It's when

Reegs: Hot Rod becomes Rodimus Prime for a brief time and the, the,

Dan: why have we not done this for the pod, the

Reegs: the Dinobots, me Grimlock and all that

Sidey: this for the port? Rhinobots, me Grimlock and all that stuff.

Reegs: matrix

Sidey: Hot Rod, Hot Rod gets it

Reegs: gets it afterwards. Optimus

Sidey: Optimus dies, the next guy gets it, I can't remember his

Reegs: I can't remember his name. He's basically a rip off of Optimus

Prime, isn't he? he's a truck as, well, but not

as good.

Sidey: And then it goes to Rodimus Prime. And then there was, there was a series, followed the film, that had Rodimus Prime as the leader. It was great, so good, and that film is so good. So, so fucking

Dan: Okay,

Reegs: And they're giant.

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: I've got a, a a, let me get this right before I fuck it up.

It is king Louis in the Jungle Book. He is Jato. Ticus.

So I think that applies.

That Can I have that? Yeah. Yeah. That's the species.

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: Which one are you going for? Christopher CGI ape?

Poor,

Cris: Jungle Book. Yeah. Yeah. That. I think that would be, that would be the one.

Completely unrelated, but In the Watchmen, Doctor Manhattan is like a giant green, sorry, blue Yeah,

Yeah,

I know! I saw

Reegs: I saw that in IMAX. Honestly, his penis was maybe like 15 feet big at some points.

Cris: Because it just shows you like a giant glowing Glowing Yeah, and I was gonna say a giant man,

Sidey: And there's one bit where he's having sex with a Silk Spectre.

Reegs: Yeah. Well, like two or three

Sidey: different versions of him.

Reegs: But also he's in the lab working, like,

Cris: So I'm gonna put these two completely unrelated, but,

Dan: Well,

I've got jaws to add in. I'll, I'll,

not the

Reegs: that big though, is

Sidey: he?

Richard Keel,

Dan: I think to be a giant, I think, what is it? Six foot

Reegs: Oh, you're talking about, you're talking about, oh right, okay. Oh yeah, yeah, he's a

Dan: He's giant.

You had King Kong. He was a giant gorilla. And I also thought of the Stay Puff guy.

Sidey: might be someone's

Dan: Well,

there

was also Statue of Liberty in Ghostbusters

Sidey: Doubling down on

Dan: Yeah, so doubling down on that. There is one more The Hulk I mean he's, He's great advertising, wasn't he? I mean he's a giant banner, really.

Cris: Fucking hell.

Dan: And that's pretty much all I've got. I may keep one back for The Gnomes.

Reegs: I'll rattle through a couple then. The shadow strays that we watched had that Troyer guy in it who is kind of a giant, he crushed that bloke's head. Big fish. Tim Burton had a character, a giant named Carl, who accompanies you and McGregor on his journey. Lake Placid,

Cris: Oh, yeah, I've seen that crocodiles.

Reegs: Yeah. And b. Not about you, Dan. It's about a low budget CGI heavy Ozploitation flick about a giant pig.

Cris: Oh, boar. Okay. Yeah.

Reegs: and the Green Knight that we watched here had Ralph Einerson as the giant who promised to come back a year later and decapitate Dev Patel if he didn't jack off in that girl's tunic or whatever.

And yeah, that's probably it.

Sidey: it. What? Is that a

Reegs: What? What? did the, the i Yeah, he did

Sidey: Yeah, but he did the voice, didn't

he?

Dan: the Iron Giant?

Reegs: Of the iron no, surely not.

He did

Sidey: and that's on my list as well. Was

Reegs: it really?

Vin Diesel was

the

Dan: Vin Diesel was the voice of the Iron Giant? There's a couple

Sidey: a couple of Game of Thrones ones. The Mountain, pretty big dude.

Reegs: and just the Giants in Game of

Sidey: There's a giant, the last giant that was beyond the wall was called Wun Wun.

Reegs: Win Win.

Sidey: I think it gets reanimated by The Night King.

Reegs: It's one of the coolest moments in the first season of show. When that giant walks at the end of the they're just setting up and it's basically the first time that you've seen anything like magical or fantastical

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: at all and it's just one kind of brief shot and you're just like

Sidey: Yeah. And then I feel like there wasn't any really good Kai movies for ages. And then Cloverfield came along that fan footage, one of the Cloverfield Monster downtown.

Dan: Goodman,

Sidey: He was in the Cloverfield Paradox.

No, he was in an area there

And then there was the Cloverfield Paradox,

Reegs: one. Yeah, so

Sidey: seen all of those. I hope you enjoyed them all. And then I'll just nominate after that.

Reegs: just nominate after that. Yeah,

Cris: Yeah, I'll just have the norms.

There's the Kraken in the Clash of the Titans.

Dan: yeah, it's a good

Reegs: like a giant squid as well, or, you know, that sort of

Cris: I've tried to finger a giant squid once. but I couldn't catch it. But yeah, the Kraken in that.

Sidey: Nice. Daniel?

Dan: well I I was thinking of jack from jack and the beanstalk kind of jack and the giant, but I I'm thinking back to Richard Harris and Gulliver's Travels, and that is going to be my nom.

Sidey: Okay.

Reegs: I'm going for Land of the Giants. Did you ever watch that on Channel 4?

Dan: did, yeah. Yeah, I enjoyed that.

Reegs: yeah, about a team of people in the futuristic, set in the futuristic year of 1983, Dan, it was,

Dan: Oh my

Reegs: yeah, they end up in a portal in a world where they're very small and humans are 70 feet tall.

So every week they'd have to like, they were trying to get home basically, but obviously they were tiny and the government It was great. Loved it. Land of the

Sidey: I've got a Simpsons one. They're watching

Dan: Just pointing to the Land of the Giants poster up on the on the TV.

On the wall, there you go.

Sidey: nice. Simpsons, I think they're watching the TV and there's an advert for a monster truck night. And there's a giant truck. Monster thing. It's called John Truckasaurus and it picks up a car and it does the godfather voice because you lousy car And then it says warning celebrity voices may be impersonated and it's just a great little like silly

Dan: Hard to beat that one. Hard to beat that one.

Reegs: lovely. And then your favorite giant.

Cris: Please let us know.

Sidey: Godzilla,

minus one slash minus color. Because we went monochrome.

Reegs: You hadn't seen this before and you elected for the monochrome version. Nice.

Dan: Oh, you hadn't seen the colour version?

Sidey: No, that's what you

Cris: Is it the same, is it the same movie but just in color?

Same thing. Exactly Exactly the same thing. It was

Reegs: released in color, and it has been like painstakingly by frame by frame, like relit, essentially

Sidey: They got Microsoft Paint.

Reegs: Yeah, no, not quite. They relit

Dan: the black and white

filter.

Reegs: that's it. They did a lot more than that. They,

Dan: Did they

It wasn't really

Reegs: was kind of painstaking. It wasn't really, it looks fucking amazing. And so to give it that authentic feeling of a 1950s picture, because it's paying obviously homage to

Dan: some of the filters they can do nowadays though?

Sidey: Instagram.

Yeah.

they put it through

Dan: They just put it through an Instagram snapchat thing.

That was absolutely fine, it came out sound. I mean you would.

Sidey: Let's get into what happens in the movie, because it starts off, if I

Dan: it starts off with a plane flying

Sidey: a little POV shot of a plane coming into land on some

Dan: it falls on Odo Island and we meet our protagonist whose name.

Reegs: Shikishima.

Dan: And he needs repairs on his kamikaze plane.

Sidey: But it's not immediately obvi

Reegs: He claims his plane has problems and requires repairing, but the mechanics can't

Sidey: it. It's like, oh, you did really well to land on that shitty runway, but we haven't

Dan: runway, but we haven't Really dodgy.

You, you can see, like, the bomb underneath the, the carriage and everything. You think, yeah,

Sidey: It's like we can't really find anything wrong with the plane and you're like, oh, he's

Reegs: there's all these unspoken accusations of cowardice and dereliction of duty and all that stuff, but the lead engineer, Tachibana, is actually fairly sympathetic to his cause, because when Shikishima walks away he says to him, Oh, you know, it's a pointless war.

Sidey: These

Reegs: pilots are

Dan: It's all over. I think we've got two days to go

Sidey: Excuse me.

Dan: the end of the war.

Sidey: Because this is 1945. This is the tail end of the war. And he does explicitly say, what's the point in dying with honor when the thing's already

Dan: It's already done. They know the writing's on the wall.

Reegs: And

as they sit near the water, I think they see some fish float up, some deep sea fish, and then that night, the air raid sirens sound, and Godzilla, who is already familiar to the locals, they know him, they've got a name for him, and he's kind of A

Sidey: kind of t rex bit bigger than a t rex.

Yeah

Reegs: big dinosaur

Dan: he's big,

but he's not giant.

Sidey: No, he's gonna get a lot bigger, but this is just stomping around, bending over and biting people's heads off and flinging them fucking miles.

Dan: Well, he doesn't do

Reegs: of, like, homage to to Jaws in this, but he's not the antagonist, right?

They shine some light on him, which freaks him out, and

Dan: He doesn't do anything

Reegs: for you. They open fire on him, and that's when he attacks.

Dan: Thinking don't

Sidey: It'd be fairly fucking startling, though.

Dan: Yeah, but you wouldn't shoot him before he did anything. This one

Sidey: guy panics, isn't he? And that sets off a, a chain action. And they send

Reegs: Tachibana, instructs Shaima to run over to the plane that's landed there.

It's got the 20 million meter cannon on it and he's like going fire it. And he does kind of bravely run over there, but when he gets in there, he can't fire, he freezes. And,

Dan: even though Godzilla is within 20 metres of him or so, he, and he's got a good shot he doesn't do it.

Reegs: He'd have died anyway if he did, if he had done

Dan: definitely wouldn't have, it wouldn't have mattered. Because we see that bullets

Sidey: I mean he doesn't know

Dan: He's got

Sidey: But anyway. need this to happen.

Reegs: He's knocked unconscious in the ensuing failure to fire, and when he comes to, everybody's dead apart from Tachibana and Shikishima and he hands, Tachibana blames him for his death, for the, for everybody's deaths, for failing to fire again, he's been a coward,

Dan: killed all his fellow mechanic friends.

Sidey: all lined up, hasn't he? In

Dan: He's got them all lined up.

He hands

Reegs: he?

He goes

Dan: goes back

home to find his town completely destroyed. His parents dead.

Sidey: great way, is

Dan: And the, the neighbor that he would have grown up with in their town, she's saying, wait a minute, weren't you a kamikaze pilot?

What the fuck? That's why all my kids are dead. And she's blaming them, their death on him as well. So like you, you're another one that didn't do your job properly. That's why my kids are dead. And so he's at an all time kind of low. he meets,

Reegs: He goes back to Tokyo and his parents have been killed in the bombing of Tokyo, which I was reading about today. It took him almost more civilians than the dropping of the atomic bombs. Yeah, so this was they just leveled Tokyo like 16 kilometers Square kilometers just completely flattened, 30, 000 civilians killed, and Shikishima's parents were killed in it, so when he goes back home he's got nothing, but pretty quickly he meets, he's handed a baby in a market by a thief who's running by, Noriko will come to know, and he briefly considers giving up a Kiko, the baby is, will be, but I think he ends up taking it and giving it back to her.

Sidey: her.

She's just sort of hiding because she's running from the police, isn't she? And

Dan: And he's waiting in the market

Sidey: just

Dan: her to come back.

Sidey: a street and she jumps out at him. He's like, ah, there you are.

Dan: Where were you? And he goes, well, I wasn't going back in the market. You were waiting there. Like, you know, I was waiting for you to come outta the market. Which he eventually does. And when she says, why didn't you just leave him? You were thinking of leaving, leaving the baby, weren't you?

And he goes, I can do that. And she then thinks, oh, he's, he's got a heart. I'm gonna latch onto this guy. Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah, because we find out as well very quickly that it's not her child, right?

It's

Dan: right. Yeah.

Sidey: found

Reegs: it was, she made a promise to the mother that she would look after it and the mother was killed. So yeah, they form pretty quickly this sort of weird family of, you know, Shikishimu who can't express himself. And you know, the, the, not his wife and not their child.

Sidey: And he says during the film that he's still fighting the war.

He's still fighting a war.

Reegs: Yeah. But he doesn't open up about any of his experiences to

Dan: Narita.

The guilt of the, all the mechanics dying at the hand of the, mouth of Godzilla has meant that he just can't shake it off. And also, the, the mechanic guy's name, who you're going to say

Reegs: tattoo burner.

Dan: He he really didn't let him forget it either, did he? He

Sidey: No, he was understandably upset about it. But he does have sort of recurring nightmares and questioning reality about whether that actually happened, whether it's, you know, something wrong with his mind, you know. Has he invented something to help him cope or something? He doesn't know. He just wakes up and he's freaking

Dan: and, and it's then, you know, it's a, it is a harsh.

You know, wartime experience or post wartime experience, but he does manage to get a job on a boat,

Sidey: Well, we skip, it kind of skips a couple of years at a time, doesn't it? You get to 46 to 47 and things are moving

Dan: a Keo, the, the, the kid just getting older. So we know that we've, we've gone on a few years and

Reegs: and also, you know, they're setting up, they're, they're doing fairly well, you know, because this mind sweeping job that they're doing is, is quite

lucrative, They're starting

Dan: lucrative, job minesweeping on boats, isn't he?

He's, there's loads of mines outside of the, in the Japanese sea and the Japanese

Reegs: the Japanese

Dan: And

their job is to detonate them and get rid of them.

Sidey: He shows some skills, so they're They're

Reegs: you show us some skills for that? And at this

point,

Dan: And at this point we may have seen there's been some nuclear bombs going off as

Reegs: Operation Crossroads, the explosions at, the atomic testing at

Dan: yeah.

and In the depths of the ocean, we see Godzilla and I just kind of reacting to that

Sidey: our fault.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: is the

Reegs: So, and there is a bit of like the sort of geopolitical response you've got General MacArthur, some American ships are destroyed and MacArthur warns the Japanese of like, you know, a massive organism heading their way, but the government like basically just underplay it and don't tell their population.

So,

Dan: And the americans don't want to get involved because they don't want to antagonize the russians. So, This is all very much a Japanese problem.

Reegs: Yeah,

basically. And hush, hush, hush for the Japanese. So they have taken up this job of exploding the mines. But then they're sent out to stall Godzilla, right?

Because this big destroyer, the Takao, is coming. And so they're sent out to

Sidey: kind of hold him up.

There's a, yeah, there's a, don't know, ragtag, I guess is the word, kind of crew. But one of which is the scientist dude, who's

Dan: You've got the scientist,

Sidey: looking at the ship going, well, what

could have done that?

Dan: the

Sidey: like, well, no, a fucking shark or whale couldn't have done it.

And that's not Like machine gun fire or whatever it is that they're like And then I think we're going to get to see some more deep sea fish appear. Yeah, which he recognizes things. Oh, fuck. Yeah Here we go

Cris: Godzilla. That's why they call it that Ono Island or whatever. Odo

Reegs: so Godzilla will appear and they're going to just, you know, it's them and their sister boat. I

Cris: Yeah, it destroys the other boat,

Reegs: just takes the first boat out straight away with like one bite.

And then they come up with this crazy plan, a bit like the final act of jaws

Sidey: exactly like that. Yeah.

Reegs: Barreling along, but with Godzilla behind them and chucking out these minds at him and they do actually wound him. They get one in his mouth and, and this time Shikishima is able to shake off the frights and shoot the,

Dan: good shot when he needs to be. He, he takes into we see a little,

Sidey: still takes a few seconds to, like, But he sees, he notices the damage, doesn't he, when it blows up and it quickly regenerates. He's like, oh, fuck.

Reegs: Yeah, it does start to regenerate and then, you know, you think, Oh, well, that's it. Now they're going to be taken out and Godzilla's looming over them.

And then the tech hour, whatever it's called, the boat turns up and starts firing on him and distracts him. And it shoots like right into his stomach, the whole like it discharges all its weapons. And I think it just fucking gets destroyed pretty much straight away. But it in fact, it's when you see his atomic breath, don't you see his plates come

Sidey: His dorsal sort of spikes like jump up and light up and you're like, here we go. . Yeah.

Reegs: up, and you're like, here we does it do?

Dan: Well, it does seem that whatever doesn't kill Godzilla makes him stronger because

Sidey: growing at a pretty rapid rate.

Dan: getting bigger and bigger, isn't he? He's he's a long

Long much bigger than he was on Odo Island when we first saw him.

When you thought, Oh, he could have been taken down maybe by that, that 20 millimeter gun. No chance now. I mean, we've got these big cannons coming off warships. And he's doing nothing to him. I mean, he just swims under the water and, and rips it up like it's a toy.

Sidey: But like cities have been rebuilt and everything's looking a lot better for people until they get the newsflash that a fucking giant creatures just come on shore.

Yeah. And

Reegs: come onshore.

Dan: Well,

the relationship between Your man Shikishima Shikishima And the, the woman that's not his wife,

Reegs: It might even be Shikishima, but Right I'm getting it, I'm trying to,

Dan: You're trying, you're trying And It, it's strange, and he gets called out at one Meal where he's having all his friends around and, and they're all saying, Oh, and she, she drops the bomb, then she said, Oh, I'm not his wife.

He goes, what? And he goes, yeah, it's not my wife. It's not my kid. And we, we just sort of got together after the war. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: says no I'm not your dad and they say to him come on man what are you

Dan: doing?

Yeah.

Sidey: It right.

Dan: and they can't understand because she's absolutely lovely. And they seem they would make a lovely couple, but obviously he's got all this guilt.

He doesn't feel like he deserves any happiness. So, when she eventually gets Offered of a job. She says well, you know, you're never gonna get married and she's smiling with me around Are you so I need to be independent and that's why she's gone to Gozo for um, ginzo. Sorry, for

Sidey: was going to say, because

Reegs: the

man

Sidey: Ginza.

It

Reegs: It is,

It's, but it's a cool combination of the two, right? Because Godzilla's design is clearly a bit man in suit. Yeah. Like there's some

Sidey: they're trying to hark back to I think, and you can obviously see when people are. Just acting, looking at stuff and it's on a sound stage and whatever, but I thought it looked, it worked really

Reegs: looked, it's amazing.

Sidey: So here, he's, he's in between various buildings. There's a news crew just on a building opposite him, just filming it and, and talking live on the news, I think.

Dan: think.

And now he's smashing up the Odeon building and now we're very, you know, dangerous being where we are. And of course he just brushes the building,

Sidey: And it's gone.

Cris: and they just, yeah.

Sidey: gone. Completely

Dan: crumbles and they're falling into the street.

30 blocks below.

Reegs: Fire tanks on him and stuff. It makes absolutely no difference. And then he charges up for another blast of the atomic breath. Ko kind of sacrifices herself to save

Sidey: that's, they've found each other in the street, haven't they?

Yeah. Because she's fallen into some body of water and Yeah, you're right. They're together and he, yeah, he does this beam. The fucking noise is great. Yeah. And this huge nuclear explosion. And then you get the, the, obviously the backdraft of the explosion, and it's just fucking

Dan: obliterate.

Well

Reegs: It's such a,

Sidey: calling bullshit on him, surviving. He's just,

Cris: the buildings,

Sidey: just

Dan: he just, yeah, well he's just pushed into a little alley where it takes out the immediate

Sidey: And obviously, you know, there's quite a lot that goes silent and there's

quite

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: I bet. And obviously, you know, there's quite a lot that goes silent and there's quite a lot of power in a movie seeing a nuclear explosion in Japan. Right? Obviously, that is a powerful, powerful image. So,

Dan: and he

Reegs: and then it ends with

Dan: fucking

Reegs: black rain falling down, like just as it did, obviously, when, when the Americans drop those bombs.

So Noriko apparently killed during that attack. The first time we do get that great theme. I always think of fair rematch, though. When I hear it And so devastated by the loss shikishima vows revenge and so when it seems that neither they're sort of the the government of either the Japanese or the Americans are gonna do anything about it.

The sort of civilians come together to decide to do it themselves. Yeah.

Cris: with the professor at the core of it.

No, the one

Reegs: it's the guy from the Imperial Navy, but he's like, come together with everybody else. And Dr. NoDa from their

Cris: Yes, yeah, the guy with the

Sidey: And glasses. Much like

Dan: Strong hair game.

Sidey: hair game. He's got a plan. That if they use this Freon gas,

They

would be able to submerge Godzilla.

Reegs: going to take him to the Sagami Bay, which is the deepest part of the ocean. And they're going to push him down and hopefully the atmospheric pressure down

there.

Cris: quickly,

Reegs: Yeah, really quickly, the atmospheric pressure down there will, he won't be able to handle it.

This always sounded like a dodgy

Dan: dodgy plan. But if that doesn't work, we've got plan B. We're gonna

Sidey: push him

Dan: back up to the surface and give him the bends. And just the pressure will disorientate him and kill him.

Reegs: Well, explosive decompression. You literally explode.

Dan: don't know, you know, anything about this, this creature.

But that's the best theory they've

Sidey: know, anything about this, this creature. Um, But that's the best theory. And their

Reegs: their army is comprised of old tech that, from the war that's broken and battered or, you know, tugboats and fishing, fishing vehicles.

Dan: not getting a lot,

Sidey: So the, there's a general, you know, there from the Navy and he's like, look, I, I can't give you orders. This is a, you know,

Dan: is a voluntary

Reegs: And

Sidey: you guys are like, sorry, we've

Reegs: exactly, they're much more accepting of like, it's a more democratic process and ideas of shame being attached to not going for this plan are taken away and to people do

Sidey: some people like now. So

Dan: people do? Some people like that.

Reegs: laugh. Gallows humour.

Sidey: Some

of them, the ones that are left just say, look, well, fucking hell, if we don't do it, who else is going to do it?

So we'll just step up and, and try and do what we can.

Reegs: So they've got this plan and Shikishima has his, or Shikishima has his own plan, which involves kind of somewhat masochistically tracking down Tachibana from the beginning of the movie, the engineer

Sidey: well, they've showed him an

Reegs: because they've showed him a prototype plane, this sort of what was it called?

It had a cool name.

Sidey: back to front, wasn't it?

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Shinto kind of

Reegs: Hinden or something. It was like a prototype plane that had never been deployed and it's got a

Dan: a really big

Reegs: fuselage at the front that they can put a bomb in it. So then this movie's like introduced this great tension about like, is a second suicide mission redemption for, for Shima?

And should we think that it is and should he go through with it and all this kind of stuff?

Dan: And, and the mechanic who has blamed him for all the deaths of his fellow mechanics is suddenly given the temptation of setting off in a kamikaze plane.

Sidey: Well, he's written to him. He is. He hasn't written to him to say, I'm sorry. He's written to, said, no, it's your fault,

Dan: your

Sidey: And he, and he

Reegs: Well that's just to get his

Sidey: But he turns up, bats him. He said I had to write that just to get you to show up. Yeah. And he's like, I'm not gonna fucking help you

Yeah.

Dan: and he gets the, the plane in some kind of, you know, tip top condition to be able to fly.

Cris: And it's also the only plane because planes were decommissioned, like fighter planes or whatever. So there's no other

Reegs: We got one shot at

Cris: That's the one.

Reegs: Yeah, and we see it having its fuel tanks replaced with bombs. So it's pretty clear what the idea is, but we also see him having a conversation, which we're not privy to where he might be whispering crucial plot information to him. I don't know. never know.

Sidey: So they're getting all the bits of the plan in place and and it, You know,

like all these things, a fucking lot of stuff has to go right for this to work.

And it starts off Godzilla when he does arrive.

Reegs: He arrives earlier than they

Sidey: Yeah, and he goes off in the wrong direction.

Dan: made me laugh because they go this trajectory is gonna be here by, you know, 10 o'clock in the morning, 11 o'clock in the morning. So everybody get a good night's sleep. We're leaving at 8. Yeah. And you think He might be early, you know, you best get in there a little bit early.

Sidey: little bit early.

Dan: So, they're best laid plans. He's already made land by the time they're even thinking of getting onto the boats.

Reegs: He's wrecking downtown Tokyo, isn't he?

Dan: but the plane is able to tempt him with a few. clever maneuvers and and few cheeky shots to maneuver him back in. Yeah, just like, oh sod it. And he, he is, it's like a mosquito and he, he's able to lure him back into, into deeper waters and they, they've got a 1500 meter trench.

just outside one of the, the islands of Japan. And that's where I think it's going to happen. If, and if they can drag him down that far and then push him back up again with this mad professor's technology, we've got a chance.

Reegs: and that process involves some kind of empire strikes backing, like Atta, bring down the Atap maneuver, round him with the cables, with the Freon on it, and they discharge the Freon and

Sidey: that bit works quite

Reegs: Yeah, it works really well. And they push him down really quickly to the ocean floor, but it's pretty

Dan: quickly when they circle around with the boats, they get so close they, they actually brush each other and I thought.

No need. You could have, you

Sidey: I wasn't sure why they had to,

Dan: you didn't

Sidey: seemed like that was

Reegs: looked cool though, didn't it?

It

Dan: it saving time? Was it all so vital? They

Sidey: But anyway, he's, he is submerged and they go, they've been watching the counter and they're like, yeah, he's actually gone beyond what we thought he's gone like 1600 meters or something.

Reegs: a problem. I always thought, he's a deep sea creature anyway, so he's come

Dan: Yeah,

Sidey: so they blow up the the airbags to quickly resurface him.

Reegs: And you can see him coming up and it is wearing this big inflatable and he's like,

Dan: Well, he

Reegs: riding in pain, isn't he? So it's like the plan's working, but then he it No, you see it, it stops. Yeah.

Sidey: at seven, 700 meters to go. And he just chews through the

Reegs: The balloons just float up, don't they? They see them come to the surface like, oh shit.

Then suddenly he starts rising up again

Dan: Well, cables are still on him and all the tugboats come along. One of the guys on the boat, the kid who's been told he's got to stay at home, has organized like

Reegs: Oh, MIMA. His arc was interesting as well because he was gutted that he never went off to war and he's got all the veterans saying, no, it's a badge of honor that you didn't, and then, yeah.

Dan: Yeah.

Godzilla comes up, but he's not really

Sidey: I think he's in pain but he's not going to

Dan: just angry because he, you can see because he starts getting atomic breath

Reegs: Yeah,

he starts charging up.

Sidey: charging up for another bus.

But then we see the plane

and you're like, oh, no, no, don't do it. Don't do, you know, and you're thinking, well, I think he has to do it

Dan: to do it. So what he's going to do, he's going to kamikaze

Sidey: come cause it. And it's good when it happens. It's just like,

so matter of fact, isn't it? It just goes and it splat and it just stops.

And they're like, he did it. He's gone in and then it.

it blows up, which sets his, like, atomic breath to, like, implode him,

Dan: yeah

Reegs: It blows off, like, half his face, doesn't it? And then he just disappears, got

Dan: he's got all these kind of shots of light beams shooting out of godzilla and then we see a parachute

Sidey: And we

Reegs: takes a little, it takes a little while before we do though.

Sidey: And we flashed back to the conversation that he was have having and he's like this lever here is the ejector seat. You're like, aha.

Reegs: That's what he was telling him. Also, if he had been paying attention, he puts his goggles on as well, just before as he's flying in. So,

Dan: Just to, just for nerves, to make sure he's doing it all right, but he does, he must pull out right at the last second as well, because you don't see that when he goes out, there's a big plume of

Reegs: No, I watched it back twice. And you do not

Dan: You do not see

Reegs: maybe, maybe you would see it.

if you saw it in the cinema because it's so small at that point.

His,

Dan: Yeah, he's a spec compared to Godzilla. But the. The sailors and all the, the, the army and all the civilians that have gathered to try to take Godzilla down is celebrating now, they,

Sidey: Yeah, big cheers.

Dan: And they get onto, onto port, the kid runs over

Sidey: Anyone else feel really sorry for Godzilla?

Dan: Not at that stage, no.

Sidey: I did, I thought, this is fucking horrible.

Dan: No, not me, must say. I thought they'd already been through the mill to

Reegs: I think he's too dangerous to live, is what I would say about Godzilla in this.

I, I, he's, how many people has he killed in this movie alone already? Maybe a hundred thousand people?

Dan: And he's no need to go onto land.

He's no need to go on. He can just stay in the

Sidey: it wasn't his fault.

He was

Reegs: fault. No, he, I know, I know, but, he's too dangerous to

Sidey: Barbaric. Absolutely barbaric.

Dan: Yeah, well, he's he need to be taken down on review

Sidey: little bit. And as we know, in his trajectory, he does become a friendly

Reegs: Yes. Yeah. Well, there'd be hints, there would likely say hints at that in his early encounters that he wasn't the aggressor. I agree with that. Which we just finished off the movie very quickly that when he gets given the telegram that, Noriko is

Dan: the neighbor runs up and she's been given some money and a letter to look after the kid and soon after that because he's expecting to, Kamikaze into Godzilla and he doesn't

Reegs: going to happen. She's pissed off at him at this point. She's gone full circle from being annoyed at him for not dying to being annoyed at him for going off to

Dan: for, for being so

Sidey: kid and stuff like that.

Dan: Because the, the girl that isn't really the kid's mother is alive.

Sidey: a bang on the head.

This

to me was such a cop out ending, I did not like this.

Reegs: was such a bad ending, I did not like this. I liked it. And we also see

Sidey: there.

And we also see some part of Godzilla still

Dan: Well,

Reegs: It's an eye that opens at the

Dan: an eye

Sidey: just a bit of flesh that was

Dan: or a bit of bubbly flesh?

Reegs: was horrible.

Sidey: but he's not dead.

Dan: no, there's, there's something that says he's going to be back and then it kind of cuts an epic Really like

Reegs: Brilliant, isn't it?

Dan: innit? Yeah. I mean, this is getting back to some of the best monster

Cris: No, no, honestly, this was actually really good. I'm not going to lie.

Sidey: thought you were charging up for a

Cris: No, no, no, no. Do you know what? Because I've not seen any Godzilla ever.

Like,

Dan: Oh, right.

Okay, well, this is much

Cris: think I've seen maybe the one with Matthew Broderick.

Dan: Yeah.

Cris: But I was too young to remember, or I didn't really, it wasn't

Sidey: So, is Godzilla male or female?

Reegs: Yes.

Sidey: Agreed.

I, because in the Broderick one that Godzilla lays

Cris: Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

But

but it could be the, the,

Sidey: you never see a pene.

Cris: It could be like a plad, like a platypus where they

Sidey: yeah, could be. It's bigger than a platypus though.

Reegs: So obviously this is really great and it's about you know, I can't pretend to understand all the politics involved in it it's but it's also about Because it is clearly about what happened to Japan and its response to the war and how people felt and all that stuff but it's also about PTSD and survivors guilt and

Sidey: people banding

Reegs: people banding together and

Dan: Yeah, there's a lot of messages going through this,

Sidey: about big fucking cool monsters

Dan: And it is about big cool monsters.

Reegs: it doesn't skimp on any of that. The destruction and all. You get it all in this movie, you get

Sidey: When he fully goes for it with the, like, atomic breath, it's so rad. It's

Dan: Yeah, and the Instagram filter is, it really

Reegs: looks beautiful. It's so annoying.

Is that why you're saying it? 'cause it's annoying me or

Dan: me? Is it

annoying

Reegs: Yeah, 'cause they paint. It was like a real artistic

Cris: what they, they get Picasso to paint it?

No. It's a filter

Dan: don't under,

Reegs: not as simple as that. No, they relit it on in there.

Cris: what? On fire. Relight my

Reegs: If you can imagine importing it into essentially Photoshop and relighting every frame, that's kind of what they do.

So

Cris: So like paint,

Dan: They've just done a computer to do it. It zips through. They,

Sidey: all, that's all

Dan: that's all. That's all Instagram does.

This

Reegs: This is a great movie. That would be good even if Godzilla wasn't in it, which I think you couldn't say of any of the fucking like monster verse ones.

The American movies, the

Dan: It wouldn't be

Sidey: the No, I like those ones too.

Yeah,

Dan: It wouldn't be much of a Godzilla film with no Godzilla in it.

Reegs: Well,

Cris: No, but you know, I understand your point. It's, it's an, it's a, just like an,

Sidey: it's about the people, isn't it?

Cris: acted film where there is a monster in it, but it's also the fact that these relations between these people and this family and this, and it's

Sidey: It seems silly to

Cris: struggle and I don't know. Yeah, it was cool. I really

Sidey: almost be incidental to it 'cause it's about the people in it and what's happened to them and their blah blah blah. But

Reegs: And the monster is a metaphor for whatever you

Cris: It's also I found for me, because I don't really know much about Godzilla. I didn't even know about atomic breath until you said it. I didn't, I didn't even know what happened when the spikes kept pushing. I was, Oh, this is what's happening. But it's the context is within the war and the aftermath in Japan and all that, where, where I can actually understand.

Obviously this is fiction, but there is

Sidey: It's real. Some

Cris: parts of it that are in reality to what happened. The war happened, this happened, the aftermath, the people being hungry. He gets money to get

minesweeping in a wooden boat and shit like that. So, it was cool,

Dan: so happy at the end that you didn't like side, but I mean, he's so happy at the end, but she's saying, is your war over yet?

I mean, that's basically how she ends it. And it's, it is a case of survivor's guilt and everything they needed to just make himself feel like he'd done his part

Reegs: Well, being labelled a coward

in a society that places so much prevalence on honour. You know, I mean, urgh. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah, well it's lucky for us, we don't but this was

Sidey: could you say, looked so fucking

Reegs: It does.

Dan: is really good I watched the colour version

Sidey: I'm going to watch that as well.

Dan: And the colour version was excellent as well,

Reegs: I think I'm going to be a real snob and say I preferred the black and white. I

Dan: But it was the last one that I watched and it was epic, it was really really good If you haven't seen it It's your best monster film to go and check

out.

Sidey: we see if the 1979 animated version stands up to this?

Reegs: Yes.

Dan: I'm getting some feedback there.

can you hear that?

Reegs: It's Sidey's electric peen.

Sidey: pain. It's my butt plug. I'll turn it off.

Godzilla the animated series,

Do you remember this from when we were, well, you're

Dan: this, this is but they The

Reegs: music brought it all

Dan: They redid it, didn't they, and it is the music which you can hear just here.

Sidey: Are we doing that?

Reegs: Please. Because, right, we just heard it, and so you'll hear, like, you get the up from the depths, 30 stories high, Bill's, Godzilla, Godzilla, and then he sounds a little bit disappointed when he goes, Godzilla. Because, right, the

Sidey: right, the

actual Godzilla, they didn't have the copyright to use the proper Godzilla roar.

They weren't allowed to do that. Yeah, that's a good one. I remember fucking hating this as a kid because I hated the Godzuki

Reegs: Godzuki character. Because immediately in

Sidey: in the credits he like falls over and does a roll into

Reegs: falls over and does

Sidey: Jar Binksification.

Dan: What

What was this one called?

Moon Load or something? or, yeah, moon Load. And basically what's happened here, scientists, underwater and we've

Sidey: got, they've got a deep sea base,

Dan: deep sea base and

a monster

Reegs: I am calling total bullshit on this. They were like, the best place to put a, a telescope is in the middle of the ocean? Is this true? They were talking about lack of light pollution and all that stuff, which I kind of got. But is that true, to put telescopes out? Because haven't you got to go up?

Dan: percent. A hundred percent.

Reegs: hundred percent. Because they literally extend like a really big Yeah,

Sidey: Didn't you think that the kid looked a lot like a young Adam from He Man? He had the same hair, exactly the same

Reegs: Maybe that was just a common haircut in the 70s. Yeah. And the beard, the guy, Captain

Sidey: It was it was Jonathan Freaks, Riker from

Dan: Trek Next

Sidey: Star Trek

Reegs: Is that who voiced him?

Sidey: No, it just looked like

Dan: just looked

Reegs: yeah,

Dan: It looked really, or, or like a really young Kenny Rogers with jet black hair. Yeah, it was,

Sidey: he'd just for men, doesn't he? That's for

Dan: He just meant it.

And

Reegs: there's a moon quake

Dan: There's a moonquake there, the cameras all over it so they can see this piece of moon rock coming out and within a few minutes it's already made its orbit into. Earth and it's heading right for them. Yeah. And when it hits the, the ocean it sets off a huge wave, not a tsunami.

A huge wave. I

Sidey: I noticed they didn't say tsunami because kids probably wouldn't know

Dan: No. Right.

Sidey: there's a giant wave! And so they pressed their Godzilla call button.

Reegs: Yeah, because they've got him on call, this Godzilla. He's like the nicest version of Godzilla you'll ever meet.

Dan: And he just gets there in time, picks up the boat, lifts it over the

Sidey: The perspective of how he changes

Reegs: is

amazing. It's amazing, isn't it? And sometimes it looks like he's wearing trousers. Did you watch the whole, all three parts of this,

Dan: I did,

Reegs: Did you? Right. So a recurring theme is Godzilla resolving situations by picking things up and then putting them back down again.

Yeah,

Dan: that's a strong, you know, that's his strength, isn't it?

Reegs: I don't know. I was kind of already bored of that

Sidey: When he defeated the wave, he, he picks them up and then he changes size and he puts them back down again and then he just goes As he sat back in the water, I'm

Dan: but it was amazing at the time when I was a kid in, you know.

Early

Sidey: It's Hanna Barbera.

Reegs: It was, in fact Joseph Barbera is the man responsible for Godzuki Well, partially along with a network executive who said oh they should put something in to lighten it all up

Sidey: what a terrible decision.

Reegs: So it was a network exec there's more Binxian nonsense from Godzuki and sleazy sexy music as well

Dan: When you say that like executives, like it feels like Yeah,

Reegs: like that Just fucking put a young one in, make him his son or something, it's

Dan: yeah. Some white

Reegs: son?

Is it his nephew? Who the fuck cares? It's for some idiot kid, let him buy a

Dan: We can sell some more toys.

Reegs: Over

Dan: they

Sidey: had, I had a great Godzilla toy. Like collectible.

Reegs: Oh, that's cool

Sidey: looked A lot like the one from Godzilla minus one had like the spikes and it like glowed in the dark.

It was rad

Dan: was

Sidey: solid plastic one like a proper collectible it went missing on one house move or another annoyed like that

Reegs: That would have been cool,

Sidey: It's way cooler than this cartoon

Dan: Well, the, the moon monster is what's hidden in the rock that's plunged into the ocean, and,

Reegs: he has a fight with

Dan: a fight with Godzilla, he's got some really strong powers, which are taken out when there's an eclipse And there's a load of other boats that have been damaged, yeah, there's a load of other boats that have been damaged in the tsunami the big wave, sorry, and They they say right quick, we'll get in the army and get the medics.

But you got to be quick because it's before the eclipse is, you know, then it's going to be back. I'm thinking eclipses don't last that long.

Reegs: know.

Dan: talking probably a minute, you know,

Reegs: But this is when they want to do the rescue operation, isn't it?

Dan: they want to do the rescue operation while the eclipse is happening. And as soon as the eclipse, they saved a few people.

Godzilla has to take on the moon

Reegs: Yeah. That's the, just before is the third time that he lifts somebody up to save them and then he fights him and takes him down. I can't even remember exactly how he bests him.

How is it? It's the gravitational rays and something, something,

Dan: Yeah, there's, that's right, there's gravitational rays because he's not killed forever.

He's just disappeared meaning that we may see him back in later yeah, this, this is dated it doesn't seem to have quite the

Sidey: theme tune. So good

Dan: theme tune is good up until Kazuki,

Reegs: Yeah, exactly. 'cause when you hear it in Kazu,

Dan: but well, maybe that makes it, I dunno. It's a little bit like,

Sidey: like everyone involved knew it

Dan: Marie, you know, the Thunderbirds one or the,

Sidey: stingray

Dan: Stingray there ma It, it has a change of key like that.

Reegs: There was a lot more like techno babble and convoluted plotting in this than I remember it as a kid.

I remembered hating. Godzuki, and he was shit, and I remember it being a bit repetitive, but boring, and I think it probably was, and then a few weeks ago, I talked about there being no representation in Chris's thing of, you know, he talked about, he had that Native Indian thing, and I said, oh, there were no Native Americans were ever involved in the making of it, there were no Godzillas involved in the making of this

Sidey: well, also

Reegs: yeah, well, also, it's just an effrontery to, everything that, you know,

Sidey: It did have a character called Brock Borden, who was voiced by a guy called Hilly Hicks.

Hilly? Which is my favourite thing about it, really. Other than that, other than the theme

Reegs: the

Sidey: Other than that, I didn't like it back then, and I probably liked it less now. Strong recommend.

recommend. Ha, ha, ha,

Dan: Yeah, I would go with all of that. It's on YouTube if you want to avoid it there.

Sidey: Strong

recommend.

Reegs: Well, that was monstrous. It was

Dan: It was giant. It brings us to the end of Is

Reegs: Is it, is it,

Daniel

Sidey: to say if it was Pete, but Pete's away and he's going skiing.

Dan: What? He's

got

Sidey: Yeah, he's

Reegs: got time to go skiing, but not to come and do the podcast. The fuck

Cris: priorities

Sidey: so it's one of you two.

Dan: Right, well, we're gonna iron it

Sidey: No, it's Chris,

Cris: Yeah, it's definitely me then.

Okay, yeah, it's definitely me. Tomorrow.

Dan: He last bought his kneecap.

Cris: don't have anything out yet on my notes, but I'll, I'll put something together.

Reegs: did. You put kneecap last night? Strong Chris. Last time

Cris: up and vice was last time

Sidey: That was good. It

Dan: bodes well for the future and hopefully, you listening out there, your future looks good too.

Reegs: All that remains

Sidey: is to say side is signing out. Didn't

Reegs: Reeds

Cris: Lot of it.

Dan: gone.