June 14, 2024

Ford v Ferrari & Roary the Race Car

Ford v Ferrari & Roary the Race Car

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Welcome back to Bad Dads Film Review! Today, we're gearing up for a high-octane episode as we count down the top 5 most memorable Alex's in film and television, dive into the thrilling world of Ford v Ferrari, and then shift down a gear to the kid-friendly racetrack with Roary the Racing Car.

Top 5 Memorable Alex's in Film and Television:

  1. Alex Forrest in Fatal Attraction (1987) - Played by Glenn Close, Alex Forrest is unforgettable as the intense and unstable other woman whose obsession leads to dramatic and chilling consequences.
  2. Alex Murphy/RoboCop in RoboCop (1987) - Alex Murphy, portrayed by Peter Weller, is a police officer who, after being brutally murdered, is transformed into RoboCop, a cyborg law enforcer with a mission to clean up crime in Detroit.
  3. Alex DeLarge in A Clockwork Orange (1971) - Malcolm McDowell’s portrayal of Alex DeLarge, the ultraviolent protagonist in Stanley Kubrick's dystopian drama, is iconic, exploring themes of free will and the nature of evil.
  4. Alex Russo in Wizards of Waverly Place (2007-2012) - Selena Gomez stars as Alex Russo, a young wizard navigating the challenges of adolescence and magic in this popular Disney Channel series.
  5. Alex Vreeke in Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle (2017) - Played by Nick Jonas, Alex is a pilot who has been trapped in the game for years, adding depth and a survival edge to the adventurous, comedic ensemble.

Directed by James Mangold, Ford v Ferrari brings to life the real-life rivalry between Ford Motor Company and Ferrari as they battle it out at the 1966 Le Mans World Championship. The film stars Matt Damon as Carroll Shelby and Christian Bale as Ken Miles, depicting their quest to build a revolutionary race car for Ford. The film not only delivers pulse-pounding racing sequences but also dives into the friendship and trials faced by its leading men. It's a story of innovation, persistence, and the relentless pursuit of excellence.

 Shifting gears to something for the little ones, Roary the Racing Car is a British animated children's television show that follows Roary, a young racing car filled with enthusiasm. Set at the Silver Hatch race track, the series features themes of friendship, teamwork, and the joys of racing, all presented in a way that's engaging and educational for young viewers.

Whether you're fascinated by the resilience and ambition shown in Ford v Ferrari, intrigued by our list of notable Alex's, or looking for some wholesome entertainment with Roary the Racing Car, today’s episode is packed with speed, stories, and stellar characters. So buckle up and join us on this cinematic ride as we explore what it takes to cross the finish line, both on the race track and in life. 🎬🚗👨‍👧‍👦🍿

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Ford V Ferrari

Reegs: was

it Romania that Tony Blair is like a hero in, is that right? In Romania?

Dan: norman

Reegs: You personally, you think he's a cunt, but Because I read that there was, I'm sure it was Romania, that there was a first name That had been created, like a portmanteau of Tony Blair, like Tony Blair or something, T O N I.

I'll have to find the thing.

Cris: don't know, I I somehow doubt it, but it could be.

Sidey: Come faces.

Reegs: Welcome to Bad Dad's Film Review, the podcast where we bring you more disappointment and confusion in an hour than a marriage proposal at a family reunion.

This week's show sees Bad Dad Dan at the helm and sees him eschewing notions of theme or subject and instead we're saddled with whichever of his misfiring neurons brought us this week's content, beginning inexplicably enough with the top five Alexes.

Dan: Yeah, I thought I'd start at A.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: I thought that was a good start.

Reegs: well, we'll see.

After that, we're reviewing a movie that goes from nought to meh in record time. Director James Mangold's featuring Crypto Bro Matt Damon and Christian Bale. Interestingly, the movie was retitled for American audiences as Ford vs. Ferrari, presumably so they didn't think they'd miss the first 65 movies in the series.

After that we have Rory the Race Car, a Claymation kids animated series which begs you not to ask the question, what is the point of a car in the universe if they're so much shorter than the average human? And if you're still listening by now, it means you probably don't mind being verbally abused, but if you are afraid of words or spoilers we'll find you a table at the kiddies corner, you delicate little snowflake.

Now let's just meet the sorry excuses for dads who host the show, starting of course with Dan is so old he actually predates sarcasm.

Cris: Wow.

Dan: Do I?

Yeah. Yeah. wow.

Reegs: There's also Robophobe Chris, a pretty boy with the attention span of a goldfish. And last, but certainly least, we have Sidey, who's just here to remind us how low the bar really can go.

Sidey: Yeah, that's true.

Reegs: And

then there's me, Breex.

Dan: Reegs.

Sidey: Hello.

Who's been watching what?

Dan: I've been watching stuff. One of The stuffs I watched was the beautiful game. Which was that. I thought

you'd already

know.

Cris: a football thing.

Dan: it's a football

thing. They go to the Homeless World Cup, Bill Nye, it's on TV.

At

the moment It's

on Netflix? It's on Netters. That

got onto your algorithm and radar? I mean, that's

just Netflix. throws that stuff at me. If it's, if it's any, Yeah, if it's anything to do with sports

Cris: Yeah, I'm exactly the same. After I watched that Man City documentary and the Jordan thing with the last dance,

Anything that's sports

related is like, top picks for

Dan: There you

go.

You'll like this. Things you'll love. And I put it on. I didn't love it, but it was, it was a watchable movie for a couple of hours. You know

where you're going with it. It's going to be inspirational. And it was based on a kind of true

Cris: It's interesting

that the guy

from Top Boy, I don't know which one

of them, one of them I can't remember he wears a north face

thing in top boy. He's like one of the main characters in

Dan: right? That'd be vinny

or whatever. Yeah,

Cris: and he goes from for me. It was one of them that i've seen him being a gangster Oh

We'll buy your food

or whatever they call it and like speaking all this slang and then he's here being all this homeless

Sidey: dog,

Dan: Yeah. Yeah, he's he It was decent enough, in You The fact that it was

You know, based on a true story, but yeah, there's a little bit of romance and up and down and, you know, Bill Nighy he's gonna try and pull on the heartstrings a little bit, but yeah, okay.

What about yourselves, did you see

anything?

Sidey: Star Wars Acolyte

has started, so I did two episodes of that.

Reegs: Yeah, i've done that did you enjoy

Sidey: Yeah, I quite enjoyed it. It was a lot more martial arts than Yeah. Than previous. Things so quite enjoyed that. Sure. Carrie Ann Moss is not dead. I'm just like, she can't just die in that vie

Reegs: bit. No. It's

Sidey: it's not a spoiler.

That happens in the very first scene,

Reegs: the first scene, yeah. It's very much kind of Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon inspired and it makes for a very good mix with Star Wars.

Dan: Okay.

Reegs: so.

And

Sidey: and it's, it's hundreds years.

Dan: Right. Yeah.

Reegs: I'm trying to guess who the bad guy is because we've already seen him. The rules of television tell us. I mean, I know he's the guy with the helmet, but surely he's one of the Jedi as well or something. I don't know.

Sidey: don't know. I try and just let it wash over me like your dad's sperm.

Reegs: to me

Cris: watched

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah,

Dan: talking of that, I watched Godzilla as well.

Sidey: Oh, minus one.

Dan: Minus one.

Sidey: What do you think?

Dan: Oh, I like, I

like

Cris: Japanese one. Yeah, right. okay.

Reegs: I might do that one for the

Dan: maybe, maybe,

We should save

Sidey: could do an old one and a man in a suit version.

Dan: Okay. but yeah, that will be a strong recommend, I

Sidey: And then the card, yes, Godzuki.

Reegs: Yes.

Sidey: Cool. And I re watched the Weird Al movie, because that's on Prime now.

Oh, right. You

Reegs: I wanna watch that.

Sidey: really good.

Reegs: I remember what you did a review of it and I thought, oh, that sounds quite good.

Sidey: really good. Yeah,

Dan: Oh, It's the newest one, isn't it? Like,

not the one that we, watched. it's Daniel Radcliffe. Right.

Sidey: as Weird Al in a biopic, but it's obviously like

completely made

up.

And the scene

when

he starts doing the songs, they make the big thing about how he's just doing, changing lyrics to songs that already exist. But they, there's a, there's a pool party at Dr. Demento's house where Jack Black challenges him to do one. There it is. So good. Definitely, definitely watch it.

It's really

Reegs: I will.

Sidey: Something else, but I can't remember.

Reegs: remember. Yeah, just The Acolyte, really. Yeah, yeah, I was watching that and I enjoyed

Sidey: that. Yeah, but

Dan: I've

Reegs: but the boys drop

Sidey: dropped Yeah,

Reegs: and they're doing pretty much all, I think it's, they're doing like three in a row and then one every

Dan: well the Euros is

dropping on Friday

so,

Sidey: because I'm doing my cycle

Dan: know It's

Sidey: Yeah, yeah. So next week. We'll have a greatest hits thing going on. Because of our podcast, because I'm not around to edit

Reegs: All right.

Dan: Oh, nice.

Sidey: weren't organized enough. It just, everything's like crept up on me and I

Reegs: Well, like an actual greatest hits of like edited bits of the

Sidey: no, just re release of this. And then I won't, I won't have watched anything.

No one needs to know this, but I won't have watched anything for the next one. So I might be there for vibes.

Reegs: It vibes, you'll do vibes after

Dan: Good vibes.

Sidey: fact, it probably won't.

Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: It might be a bit short on time

with you from

Sidey: Can you

Reegs: you not

put a little thing on the front of the bike so you can watch the movie as you cycle?

Sidey: Do a cycling

Reegs: could do a cycling themed week to We have actually done that

Sidey: actually done that before, haven't

Reegs: Alright.

Dan: Mm.

Cris: What, where is this Acolyte? I know that I'm never

going to watch it. but

Sidey: on your favourite, Disney

Cris: Oh.

No, because I've never watched any Star Wars, so what's the point to watch something

now?

Sidey: Well, the thing is with Star Wars is that it's, it's this huge, huge story, but they're all interconnected. But this one, for once, exists outside of all of

Cris: No, they really annoy me,

Sidey: Yeah, I know. I get it. Yeah.

Cris: It just takes over their lives. They get dressed up for May the 4th and all that. I don't understand. So it's too late for me now.

It's job done.

Yeah, that is a bit too late. for me.

Sidey: No, I only,

Cris: I'd only, I watched which was a movie that I watched, I think, a couple of weeks ago actually.

But I forgot to mention it because it was so memorable. However, it was a feel good movie and it was Marky Mark in a movie called Arthur the King. It's about him and a dog really but it's about this endurance race that happens once a year in costa rica. It's like a Trek hardest race in the world or

something like

that.

Sidey: I've watched a Bear Grylls program about that.

Yeah

Cris: and Marky mark plays this guy who's a real guy who did this

Challenge thing and he Tries to go a few times. He doesn't win it he fails miserably someone puts it on their instagram and now he has something to prove and They end up meeting this dog like a stray dog in costa rica and he Saves their lives a couple of times and then he says marky mark saves him and they end up finishing second because of the dog Because the dog would drown otherwise and he brings him to america and at the end it shows the pictures of no No, they bring the dog to

america He lives and all that but At the end they show the pictures of the real guy With the dog and

all that.

So it's like a feel

good factor,

Dan: But Finish second. you say

Sidey: Lost, he lost First

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. that's right. No, sounds all right.

Cris: Yeah.

and I watched a movie called The 12th Man.

Dan: Oh.

Cris: Which is a Norwegian

movie, and

it's got

is it Jonathan Rhys Meyers or Rhys Meyers? Anyway,

that guy and

he plays the role of a Gestapo officer and it's the

about a sabotage mission

In Norway and

About a survivor

the 12th man, it's a team of 12 people, and the 12th man finally survives in this guy's journey from the fjords of Norway to Sweden and to freedom, and how he's a beacon of hope for the Norwegian

Reegs: How was it? I've, I've heard of it. I

Cris: it was good. I, really enjoyed it. And

It's almost three hours.

It's

a long movie, but Good really good and I did like the way, you know When at the beginning of any movie where they say based on or inspired by real events and that and

it says, based

on real events And the things that you will find that you will think Are ridiculous The most ridiculous things in these movies in this movie will be the ones that actually happened. Mm-Hmm. .So it's like this guy survives under a rock for four days and stuff like that And it's just like this actually existed this guy.

So it was, it was really good

actually.

So yeah, that's all

Dan: force is strong over there. Yeah

Sidey: Yeah, and that was in the Top 5 Swords, wasn't it? You were talking about lightsabers, and we had other sword nominations.

Reegs: nominations did we

Sidey: we have? Beaver was on about the Hattori Hanzo Kill Bill one, and Breachy Samurai Cop.

Reegs: Yes.

Sidey: its classic line, what does Katana mean? And ever the prepared which is attached the YouTube clip of that very moment which you can hop on discord and see. Nice.

That bit cross selling there. And we did have nomination. I don't think we ever mentioned it for the one before that which is monkeys or gorillas, apes. We didn't cover off, did we? Yeah.

Cris: No, because it was a long time ago

Reegs: going apeshit for

Sidey: Yeah, she said there's some which probably shouldn't be nominated for obvious reasons. There's some Italian films for the seventies, which feature real monkeys being killed. She thinks it's the man from deep river where chimps get strapped down his head axed open.

Cris: Jesus

Sidey: one, probably one to avoid.

Diamonds

are forever. This is from Darren Lethley with the Las Vegas setting. There's a trip to a magic circus sideshow with a woman turning into an ape. I don't remember

Reegs: ape. Octopussy.

Sidey: And Octopussy. It's a Roger Moore already way too old. He says mugs his way through another circus.

At one point disguising himself as a gorilla in a costume

Reegs: as a gorilla in a costume I think he still did,

Sidey: he still did.

After Octopussy, he went into his 60s and he's shagging

Dan: Da da da da.

Reegs: Shagging like,

Sidey: Yeah. Trading places another gorilla.

Reegs: Yeah, I was thinking about that.

Yeah.

Sidey: And

Reegs: there some sort of like gorilla rape or something implied at the end of that movie? 'cause he gets him dressed up in a gorilla

Dan: We had Enough of gorilla rape and things like that in

the actual episode.

Sidey: And then account this it translates to the account of the journey to the west but in England, it was called monkey or monkey magic Which you commented can't believe you didn't mention this

Dan: and tripitaka and they got a fight Go across China to save the princess. Yeah, it was good that, I like

Reegs: And we

Sidey: the reboot.

Reegs: the reboot,

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah. Right onto top five.

Reegs: Alexes. Alexes?

Dan: Alex's, will I start?

Reegs: Yeah,

go on.

Dan: Okay.

so

probably my favourite

Sidey: Mm-Hmm.

Dan: would be Alec

Guinness. who did

so many

amazing

films. He's,

Reegs: Or Alex.

Dan: Alex.

Reegs: Yeah, well

Dan: did say, on the, on the chat,

you

can have an Alec. Which is why I put him in, you know, that's why I put that caveat

Reegs: that caveat in.

Dan: because he's, you know, been in some of my favorite films and favorite series. Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy that he was in playing George Smiley from the Nakari things. It's still, I don't know, just up there with the best, best series of television I've ever seen.

It's all brilliantly put together. I've, When you've read the books you just realize actually how fantastic and actor he is because

he's

getting all the emotion out of the characters that normally when you read a book.

It's you've

got all that and no film and actors can really tap into it deliver on the same kind of levels and we talk about Le Carre, but here he does it, you know, I mean, he's just, he is that character, He's George Smiley, when you're reading the book, you can't help

picture

this guy in your mind, even before You saw him in it. And yeah, he's he was quite a strange character himself in the fact that he was very superstitious guy. And he was around about, I mean, true story, he was, you know, I think

James

Dean and himself had met in a restaurant in Italy. And he had like some premonition and said stay away from like cars

and

Reegs: stuff.

Mm-Hmm.

Dan: Like

a few weeks before

he, actually died.

and you know and He was always saying he always had these kind of skills and he had the gift and

everything so he would have been quite a character to share a dinner with or

Something.

Reegs: So he had Jedi like abilities

Dan: basically so there he is you know. so he just took The Jedi

one for the money

you

know, he wasn't anything that he really was going to be a serious actor in, a, but then it became like, wow, you know, the man, you know,

Sidey: I

Reegs: really can't think of him without thinking of the Simpsons. When Lisa makes a friend who's smart and they go to her house and the dad's like, Oh, we play a game where we, we make anagrams out of a celebrity's name.

And it's Alec Guinness, isn't it? Genuine class they come up with. Everybody's like, wow. And then it's Jeremy Irons. And she's like Jeremy's

Sidey: iron

Here's a ball. Try bouncing it. . Yeah. Yeah,

Reegs: yeah, genuine class, Alec Guinness.

Dan: Over to

you.

Sidey: Me? Okay. Alex DeLarge,

Dan: Ah, okay.

Sidey: means Alex of Large we reviewed A Clockwork Orange

Dan: He's

a spooky

Sidey: and he's in that, played by Malcolm McDowell. He's a violent thug,

Dan: Yeah. He is

Sidey: droog going around raping and beating and stealing and doing whatever he wants until he gets the something, something therapy?

Reegs: Yeah,

Dan: shock therapy,

Sidey: The scene where his eyes are forced open and dropped in as he's just forced to watch endless violent content and is conditioned into

Dan: hating violence.

Sidey: a reformed character much misunderstood at the time and withdrawn, but later but it's pretty tame the content now compared to what was out there.

Dan: Yeah, I mean, it's just the, the subject and the way it was delivered. It would've been shocking at the, the time.

Sidey: And there was a lot of copycat stuff, I think it was also a problem. But yeah, Kubrick classic.

Dan: Yeah, good Alex? Good

Reegs: Yeah, well, Alex

Garland

Is a writer and director who is responsible for loads of stuff. I like, yeah, some great novels. And as writer or director or producer was involved in dread, which was great ex Machina, which asking the important questions like when robotics and AI are invented, how long will it be before we try to fuck it?

Sunshine. Sunshine. Sunshine. The Danny Boyle one. He wrote that devs.

Sidey: Yeah, I really enjoyed that

Reegs: Brilliant. Absolutely. Brilliant. Yeah,

Sidey: Annihilation. Annihilation,

Reegs: It was annihilation him. I haven't got it on my list, but let's think it was 28 days later. Never let me go men, which was also really good. So he's right. If you're talking about like the top five Alex's, which we are, he's got to be up there in the

Sidey: conversation. I think it is. Civil War is him, isn't it?

Reegs: Yeah. And I really want to see

Sidey: Even though it's got Kirsten DI still want to see that. So there's a lot.

Dan: lot. He wrote that?

Sidey: Directed it, I think. Yeah.

Dan: Did he? Yeah. Because it is quite an arc for him since he wrote like the beach.

And I think there was, I don't know how many books he'd written before that, but I think there was a lot

and that book

Reegs: was very quickly into screenwriting after

Dan: Yeah, that just

exploded his you know, passion. Leonardo DiCaprio was the, guy on the beach. I remember every, when I was first traveling, everybody had had a copy or read a copy.

Everybody You know,

learned

Reegs: zeitgeisty

that?

Dan: Yeah. And and the fact now that he's gone from like writing into directing and producing and, everything else it's just quite an interesting

story.

Good Alex. Yeah.

Cris: I'm going to take a page of your book and i'm not going to, i'm actually don't know his actual full name So it could be anything but it's al bundy.

Dan: Well let's call

him Alex.

Reegs: I would looked

at this earlier, but I didn't know if he was like Alistair Bundy

Cris: I'm taking it. I'm taking It

It has to be Alex,

Dan: Right Alex

Cris: Although to be fair, it's probably like

Sidey: Ted's brother. Yeah,

Cris: but yeah, it's better than Ted.

And I think we all know it's Ed O'Neill, his actual name, the actor himself, but it's a series that to be fair, I was never a massive fan of it, fan of it, because it was always the laughter in the background,

Reegs: a can't laughter, it's a, it's a real turnoff.

Cris: It was some of them found funny, but sometimes it just kind of, after everything he said, or they said, it was

just a bit too much,

And I couldn't find it that funny, but there were a few episodes where I thought this is actually quite funny. And it was, again, one of those the married with children was one of the

series that it was constantly, on Romanian television when I was younger.

And I think it was also because it was kind of like family oriented. So there was no foul language. There wasn't anything really.

Reegs: It could get a bit racy sometimes, couldn't

Sidey: Yeah, it could be quite crude and stuff

Cris: yeah, But it wasn't

I mean, this was Romanian society, they were fine with that. Don't worry, But it wouldn't, it wasn't anything really tragic.

So it was, I think that's half four or four o'clock slot when,

Reegs: well, part part of the running gag was that Al would never fuck his misses, wasn't it?

Cris: and she always wanted to

Reegs: and she was always up

Sidey: for, and she was well horny as well.

Reegs: yeah, man, no, that was,

Cris: well that was the idea that, and he would always come home and put his hand in his pants and

Reegs: watch TV and Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: So, yeah, that's, i'll, I'm

Dan: Yeah, I know it was really popular, but I like. You know, I never got into it. I never watched enough of it. Maybe the canned laughter put me off as well. Although, there are other shows I've watched quite happily They've got canned laughter. but

Sidey: was what was the daughter's

Reegs: Christina Applegate,

Sidey: She's really in very considerably ill health.

Reegs: Yeah,

Cris: let herself go a little bit. I think she had

really.

Sidey: She's about to

Reegs: She was really ill.

Cris: Oh really?

Sidey: Yeah, she's like, on

Reegs: had cancer

Cris: Oh, right, okay, I thought it

Sidey: really, really, really,

Cris: Oh, really I don't know.

Sidey: She's walking, I think she went to one of the last Oscars or the Emmys or something, and she's on like

Cris: Oh,

Sidey: and it was a

Reegs: Yeah, but to be fair, she has let herself go a bit as well.

Sidey: like a bit of a farewell tour, it was really sad.

Reegs: yeah.

Dan: you, Well, you never know. There could be hope because Alex Murphy was

just

Down. He had no hope, but then they turned him into Robocop.

Sidey: cop. They did?

Dan: And, And so that's, yeah, he was flatlined, he was in big trouble. bad shape. They didn't know what they're doing.

But fortunately there was a, a need to bring him back as a, a cyborg and turn him into a, a killer, really. Just a. well, I, it was a killer, kind of.

Reegs: Well, he killed a lot of people,

Dan: killed the bad

Reegs: It also inspired one of my favorite ever, like, you know, knockoff toys that you ever see.

Like there was one that was Robocop in the plastic taxi, but it

said Robert Cop

Dan: robocop Oh, robocop

Sidey: that guy in the dick as well. Yeah.

Dan: yeah yeah Because we we did this for the pod not not long ago.

And

the You know, Murphy, as he's known after a little while as they realize there's still some parts of humanity

in him.

He's not all robot, not all cyborg.

He was, he was decent in this and, yeah, still stood up. A good Alex Murphy.

Sidey: Yes,

Reegs: Yes, I've got it, yeah.

Sidey: bunny boiler.

fatal attraction.

Dan: Oh,

Sidey: is Alex Forrest. Maybe maybe it's short for

Alexa. I don't know. Maybe her name is just Alex.

Dan: Oh, Alexandra.

Sidey: They've remade that recently into a series. I think

Dan: No, I dunno. I've

Sidey: They have. Yeah,

Reegs: right. Actually. Yeah. That probably has to be approached in a completely different way.

Sidey: Now, I think it might be the dude

Reegs: it's the, bunny boiler. Yeah.

What does he boil? Do you reckon? Yeah.

Dan: Yeah.

because it's been a long time since I've seen that film, but Glenn close sleeps with Michael Douglas, doesn't she?

And

then That's

Sidey: Responsible as

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. no, she sleeps with him, he sleeps with her. They, They sleep with each

Sidey: I think they I don't think there was

Dan: They didn't even fall.

Reegs: didn't even fall asleep, I don't think. What? No.

Dan: Oh, like, fuck, I'm gonna have to watch this.

Sidey: of those where the white guy, you know, at the end, it's like no repercussions for him even though he like he's caused all of this I mean, she's unhinged but Yeah.

Reegs: it and no repercussions for

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff.

Reegs: Good Alex.

Dan: can happen.

Reegs: Who's Alex is it anyway?

Dan: your Alex.

Reegs: Alex Proyas, you know him?

He's a Greek, you probably do, you'll know his work because he's a Greek Australian filmmaker, he's known for his visual style and sort of dark futuristic stuff and he did the excellent The Crow,

Sidey: Oh,

Dan: Oh, right.

Yes.

Yeah, yeah.

Reegs: Which the death of Brandon Lee, I think propelling that to a sort of mythical status, we should probably review that, I haven't seen it in a while Dark City, which is one I really love very Matrix inspired or inspiring, came out just before it, iRobot, He did and he also did knowing with nick cage.

It's a great scenes of nick cage googling what 9 11 is

Dan: googling what

Reegs: So if that's the sort of thing that you might like

Dan: the of thing

that you might like.

I've got Alex Browning in

Cris: I've got

alex browning in final destination.

Reegs: Yeah

Cris: to be fair when you said alex, I think that was the first one I ever because for whatever reason I've watched all of them pretty much

And

The first, ones, Yeah.

yeah.

obviously even like the fifth, you know what's gonna happen, but it's still,

Reegs: you do and you don't, they throw you a little fake here and there on what the death is.

I

mean, you know. No, that's,

you know, everybody's gonna die and that's why

Cris: that's the thing is like, oh, this is going to be, I wonder how they're going to do it this time. And, And what's going to happen? Is there going to be. The stairwell that falls down is it going to be the logs

from the truck,

Is it going to

Reegs: you just don't drive behind logs now on a truck on like just without

Sidey: happened to Moises face from A Love Alone, didn't it?

Reegs: Rene?

Yeah. Yeah, it did. Yeah

Sidey: the

windscreen. Whacked him in a coma for

Dan: right, Yeah, I

remember that, yeah. See

Reegs: it was funny when it happened in final destination, but

Dan: Hmm. so

Cris: yeah,

that's that guy that,

in the first one. It's the first one. where he saves everyone on the plane and then Did we review that recently? Yeah, We did. Yeah. Okay. That's why it probably

Reegs: devs

Cris: so yeah, that guy, Alex.

Yeah, I think so. Although, I'm not

really sure about that bleach blonde hair. It's a bit,

it wasn't really a strong

Reegs: it was, it was a look in the, this was like 2000, you know, that was a strong look.

I

had bleach blonde tips for a little while.

Sidey: Bleached blonde what? Tips. Oh.

Dan: Yeah, that's

what I

Cris: say, what?

Sidey: going to say.

Dan: That's what I thought he

Sidey: going to

Dan: Well, I'll tell you who else got bleach blonde tips.

It Is

Alex Winter.

Sidey: Ah, this is going to be my next

Dan: yeah, well,

Sidey: Bill S. Preston Esquire.

Dan: That's right and he plays Bill Es Preston Esquire in 1980 nine's, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Yeah.

And then in 1990 one's Bill

and Ted's Bogus Journey. As well as 20 twenty's. Bill and Ted Face the Music.

But he played he mixed it up with playing Marco in The Lost Boys. Again, a good part, you know,

I mean, he's, he's only done a Oh,

Reegs: done a load of stuff. He's made a load of like cult films. I've not seen many of them, but Freaked is the one that I have seen.

Dan: seen. Oh, what was that like? Good.

Reegs: yeah, I mean, it's like a crazy, it's this movie where this guy's like making mutants on his farm.

Right, so, as a premise, like, that's probably not, you know, you know whether you're in or out. It's like a low budget, like, gore type thing

Dan: Sounds like, going round to

Reegs: special effects and stuff. It's kind of cheap, but, you know. It's

Sidey: it's kind of a documentary filmmaking isn't it?

He did the Zapper

documentary. Yeah, he was granted access to all the like huge archive of Frank Zappa stuff and was, you know, given carte blanche to go make a documentary about him.

Reegs: go and make a documentary about him. Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: quite a journey.

Frank Zappa.

Yeah.

Dan: Yeah, it was quite a journey yeah, Frank Zappa, yeah. whereas he didn't

really

go on for years, you didn't hear about him. I mean We're starting to a little bit

Sidey: There was chat that they didn't get on wasn't there and then Keanu had obviously become really successful and you didn't really hear from Alex Winter at all.

Dan: No. Until they did that.

2020s Bogus Journey, whatever. and I haven't seen

Sidey: it. Bogus Journeys was the sequel that came out dead quick, and then there was the, whatever the third one's called, and it's fucking

Dan: It wasn't quite there, was it? but yeah. Alex Winter. There it is. The other one was called bill and Ted Face the Music.

and I haven't seen that

Sidey: Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm. Alex Kingston.

Reegs: is that, that's a woman, isn't it? It's with, oh,

Sidey: It's a woman actor.

She played River Song in Doctor Who, but I know her and enjoyed her work at being a big ER fan as Doctor Elizabeth Corday. I used to love that show.

Dan: Well,

I, I, I like the the thought of liking that show.

but I don't actually know about it.

Sidey: It's good. If you like hospital dramas, it's right up

Dan: Yeah, I do like hospital dramas, so

Sidey: I don't know. Maybe you don't can't picture her but she has she's a redhead and she has really like curly sort of like big hair and there was a girl in our school year who had similar hair and one

Dan: went to an all boys school?

in

Sidey: in jcg in our equivalent year and then we'd all gone off to uni and we came back and we were out in the piss and then saw her out and she had straight hair or something and I fucking said something like oh what the fuck have you done to your hair it's like having chemo it's like oh

my god

Reegs: Oh

my

Sidey: she's wearing a wig i'm gonna just go and kill myself

Reegs: should go and get myself

Dan: Oh my Lord.

Sidey: So that was fun.

So Alex Winter. And Alex Kingston

Dan: And Alex Kingston Town.

Reegs: Well, Alexandria, Dan the intellectual and cultural center of the ancient Mediterranean for much of the Hellenistic age. Until the Muslim conquest of

Cris: You, you were there when, you

Reegs: you will well, well remember.

Yeah.

Cris: would

have been around.

Reegs: It inspired

many movies, some of which I've seen like Cleopatra with Elizabeth Taylor,

Sidey: Tate?

Reegs: And

Dan: was it Richard Burton. in that one as well?

Reegs: Yeah, I've seen it, but I don't remember it very well. We should

Dan: In full Technicolor, it's a Sunday film that. You need it, you need like a

Sidey: much like Lawrence of Arabia.

Dan: Yeah, yeah.

I will. Another, Yeah, that's a

classic. we'll

nominate that again. it's that good.

Reegs: A Serpent

of the Nile? When I read the plot description today, I think I might have seen it one sort of sunny afternoon when I should have been outside. Many great movies set there. I think the best Will all agree is Mega Shark Versus Mega Shark. Yeah. The third in the Mega Sharkk franchise.

Yeah.

Dan: third, yeah.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Third time

They just found all the

Reegs: It just hit the sweet spot.

Dan: hit the sweet. spot. Time's a charm

Reegs: and that as you'll cause no doubt, remember the initial Megalodon attack is set back in ancient Alexandria and features like boats being sort of like thrown into the pyramids of Giza, which is quite distance.

Yeah. From the,

Cris: Yeah, I know. That's, that's,

Reegs: Megalodon. So what are

Cris: It is, yes.

Sidey: It's a megalodon.

Reegs: Yeah,

Cris: disagree with you,

but who might disagree with you is Alexander

Sasha

Pechersky from which is an actor that we've reviewed last week with yielding a Sword and pretending to be blind.

Rutger Hauer in Escape from Sobibor, which is quite a dark movie which is exactly what it says on the title is about

the

concentration camp camp in Sobibor. and he's one of the.

Leaders of the of the jewish prisoners in the end managed to escape. it's

Yeah. It's, not a great

movie. The only

thing is I remember I remember it because I watched a couple of times on romanian television And it was the first time i've seen it. Pretty sure I didn't sleep that night because I was terrified of the nazis and everything because I was very young and I I think is that the movie is made in 87 And i've seen it again when I was a bit younger and I do remember.

No,

because it was on romanian television was one of them that I was still

I was, you know,

I was tell he was on and I just kind of

oh, okay,

Well, I guess i'll watch this

but

It's not

it's not, a, yeah, it's hard watch. I mean,

it's also i'm not saying

it's good

that it's good that they made it because it was one of the concentration camps that

I would have

not heard of. Everybody heard of

Reegs: one of the fashionable ones. One of,

Cris: and

it's

it's obviously based on a true story and, and this guy was one of the people that managed to, to, it was almost a leader of, of the resistance, if that makes any

Sidey: sense

Cris: Yeah,

so that

Reegs: Good untold story, but

Cris: Yes,

Sidey: Well, here's an interesting

Dan: there. Well, here's, here's an interesting Alex for you. is Alex Baldwin.

He's going through a,

Sidey: Pete wanted

Dan: yeah, did he? Pete

wanted us to put him

forward. Of course he's

Cris: shot someone

Dan: involved in in the film Rust. Yeah, I think the,

He may have shot

Sidey: somebody. Well he definitely

Dan: did, shoot

Sidey: definitely did, but it's weather.

Dan: he's culpable of

Reegs: boggles the mind that there could be live ammunition on a film set. It just boggles the mind. Like,

Sidey: Yeah, what the fuck is it doing there?

Reegs: are you

Dan: If you're an if you're an

Reegs: need a bullet? If you're dressed

Dan: as like a cowboy or something and somebody hands you a gun,

You anime ammunition in that gun, are you?

I mean, it's just You wouldn't even

Sidey: Right,

so you're doing that gun thing with your hand. As an aside, at work today we had a board meeting and so we're all sat around the table, and there's like, the big boy, like the owner of the business, and someone's talking, but we're also on teams, so there's people conversing in and this guy So the actual information, the screen was being shared.

So it was like text document on the thing, but there was a guy obviously on the camera and he's talking away. And then put the gun, like, you know,

Reegs: the full gun

Sidey: in his mouth as if I'm so fucking bored to kill me now. And I'm like,

Reegs: you're on camera You're on camera.

Dan: Classic. Classic. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's kind of

how Alec Baldwin probably didn't feel when this terrible tragedy happened.

But he was in The Departed

which might

Yeah, it was some, it was a really good film, obviously. The, the original was better, but the Beetlejuice, it was in that, remember

Cris: I remember that. Yeah.

Dan: Well, Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: I've never seen Beetlejuice.

Reegs: Ah,

Cris: missing out on anything don't worry

Reegs: got, there you go.

Right? We've gotta sort that out.

Dan: out. Well,

Sidey: Top five Beatles. It's

Cris: not

that good.

Dan: No, but it became, a bit of

Reegs: I haven't seen it for a while. I enjoyed it, but I haven't seen it for a while. But you've gotta see it. You haven't seen it. See it. There's still some good bits in

Dan: Maybe we'll do a

double feature when the actual Beetlejuice comes out. Hunt for Red October, Glengarry Glen Ross, which was a classic film, Jack Lennon, around like uh, real

estate

agents

and making sales and yeah, it was

Reegs: Oh, it's been closing?

Dan: yeah.

it's and

it's

oh, Gil, oh, Gil. I mean it's one they put in The Simpsons all the time, isn't it?

Sidey: They even they do his watch that it's so many jewels it can't the hands

Dan: And John Mills was in an ice, ice cold. I called in Alex, which is one of the best wartime movies that they made.

Sidey: we've been going for ages so i'll just rattle off a few alex dumphy any modern family fans she was the younger daughter.

She had massive breasts. I think had to have a breast

Reegs: breast scan. Yes, yeah.

Sidey: and

I think felt quite uncomfortable about it. How pervy people were because she was very

Reegs: Yeah, well she was one of those who was like sexualized on screen basically from

Sidey: Yeah.

Oh God, I'm trying not to give away the one that I'm going to put in. Chris, you'll be a big fan of this one.

Alex Hitchens from the movie Hitch. That's Will Smith. Yes. I

Reegs: I had that on my list. I couldn't remember who the Hitch fan was.

Was it you?

Sidey: No, he just hates Will Smith.

Reegs: Oh,

Cris: yeah, I cancelled Will Smith.

Sidey: You're not going to watch Bad Boys then, the new Bad Boys movie?

a chance.

I've got an Alexandra

Daddario

Reegs: good

Sidey: and her magnificent boobs from the movie Baywatch.

Reegs: She was in the White Lotus, I think as

Sidey: well.

Okay, managed to check that out. And I've got another Alex that I'm holding back for the top five. you? Sometimes.

Reegs: I've got the Oliver Stone biopic Alexander

Dan: Yes. okay.

Reegs: which

Colin Farrell and

Angelina Jolie and Val Kilmer and Jared Leto.

I think he tried to fuck all of them on the set at the time That's when he was like right in his pomp. That was Oliver Stone, they were probably just foot like high on coke all the time and just alexandering it up

Alexander Skarsgård

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: Really good in Infinity Pool the North Man that we watched

Sidey: he's the really tall one?

Reegs: Yeah, he's, there are other Skarsgårds, but he's the big one,

Dan: You gotta know your scars. Guards. Yeah.

Reegs: Stellan is his dad, and Bill, and there's another one as well, I think. And, the Alex, Alexandra, Alexandra Adger? The French director, there you go, him, and then I got one more for my final

one.

Sidey: Okay.

Cris: and then i've got one more for me, final one,

Dan: Right,

Okay.

Cris: I would imagine xander

comes from alexander. So

Dan: it right to the limit with our xander, isn't he? But

Cris: taken al now i'm taking xander

Dan: Put them

together and you've got,

Cris: From

the two you can make

Dan: you can make one to become

Sidey: xander was also in the scooby gang and buffy vampire slayer

Cris: Is it? It's not Vin Diesel though? Oh. Triple

Reegs: Triple X.

He kills Bond in the opening of that,

Cris: he? He's

Reegs: in a tux and he just blows him away.

Have you seen the sequels?

Sidey: Next level. Is it next level?

Something

Reegs: like that. One of them has him skiing through the jungle.

It's amazing.

Dan: W Well, I, I'm just gonna put in Alec Guinness.

as my, as my nom. You could choose him from the bridge over the river. Quai star Wars, Lawrence Arabia Dr. Vargo. You could take your pick. But I would pick the one as George Smiley.

please.

Sidey: I would probably go with Lady Killers.

Dan: Mm strong

Sidey: But anyway Alec Veian.

Oh

Oh six. Sean Bean.

Sean Bean in. Golden eye. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah.

GoldenEye!

ba ba

Sidey: Film if we're being generous. Great video game.

Reegs: The game is what I think about. Yeah.

Sidey: Great. Great.

Reegs: And the dam stunt is still

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: The

video game used to start off with like a site, didn't it? And you had to, that was

Reegs: Toilet boy. That's what I remember most about that on the

Sidey: Climb through the thing

Reegs: the Russian level, you could start in the toilet. If you're unlucky, if you saw them start up there, you're like, everybody run to the toilets. You know, they haven't got a chance to get out before you blow them up.

Sidey: get out before you warm up. Yeah, it was a four player game

Reegs: Alex Honnold.

Dan: Ah.

Reegs: Did you see free

Dan: Yeah. This is the

guy, the climber. Yeah, good Alex, yeah.

Reegs: he was just at a great. It's it is insane. What he did free climbing El Capitan

Dan: I watched it again, just this weekend. Actually,

Reegs: it's

really a story about like what people do with their lives. Like this guy completely devoted everything in like.

to the detriment of everything in his life, to the exclusion of everything in his life, to doing these incredible feats, and the people in his life, you have to accept it, like his girlfriend,

Dan: if they want to stay in his life while he does it. I mean, he was doing Pull ups with like one finger, and stuff. Yeah, easy.

You think

Sidey: did some difficult stuff as well. I'm sure.

Reegs: sure.

Honestly, this thing that he climbs with no ropes or

Dan: it's scary just to look at. It's scary. yeah, but it kind of curves back on itself.

Sidey: Isn't that what Pete's doing in a

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. Pete's doing something similar. but

Cris: Pete's stronger than that guy.

Dan: Pete's

stronger than

Cris: Bigger calves.

Dan: Pete's dedicated again his whole life to this

Sidey: to not training for

Dan: to not training It was funny cause we went down to the do the other night.

Friday night. It was Football do and so pete and i there pete's driven down. because he's preparing for

Cris: Climbing with Gino Mangiaro, yeah.

Gino

Dan: So he's taking it seriously he goes no, no i'll drive I've got to be back early in the morning anyway and up because we've got stuff to do with the kids and that, are brilliant. okay?

Two non alcoholic beers later

he

was calling home James to secure somebody to drive his car back home for him. And yeah, so training's going well. I expect. Yeah,

Sidey: good stuff. Right, let's have your Alec, Alex's,

Reegs: well, maybe you are called Alex or, or Alec. You should let us know. Well, don't let us know your names, but that's, that's probably a bad idea.

But you know, also there is, you can now press a thing on the, if you watch

Dan: a thing, and it does something.

Reegs: phone, there's like a link in.

fan mail thing it's

called. If you click that, you can anonymous, anonymously send us something. It does. We don't get what your number is. We just get what it is.

So you

Sidey: we just get your abusive message?

Reegs: You can tell us what films to review or you can hurl abuse at us, especially if you do that last one. We'll probably read it out. So,

Dan: that would be nice roast us.

Cris: why did they change it for the American public?

Would they not be interested in Le Mans?

Reegs: I

I wonder if it's because like me, when you hear Ford vs Ferrari, you think, Ferrari? I'd rather a Ferrari one, whatever it is, I'd rather a Ferrari one.

And so,

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: yeah, maybe, but I don't know. I just thought if

you would have been that's the initial that's the original Title

of the movie. It's,

Reegs: it was probably something dull like Intellectual Property Rights or maybe, I dunno, who knows? It was called,

Sidey: couldn't really even see any trivia about it

Dan: I think, I think it's just because it's a bigger draw for

the American.

audience.

Cris: Yeah, but it's on Netflix as well. Is that Netflix

UK?

Sidey: hang on. What was the original?

Cris: LeMar 66.

Sidey: they're all, so the American audience are going to, are going to respond better to Ford on there. So that's probably, that's probably as simple as that.

Reegs: I'm sure it is as simple as that. And this is the tree. Oh, you go on. I don't know. Were you about to

Dan: no. I wasn't gonna say anything.

Reegs: don't

Sidey: know.

You to take a photo or something, I don't know what was going

Dan: maybe.

Cris: Just Taking

a selfie.

Dan: No, I was.

Reegs: Has

Cris: any of you driven a Ford or

a Ferrari?

Not a race car, just a normal.

Dan: one.

Sidey: I've driven a normal Ford, like something as boring as a Fiesta.

Yeah. Not a GT fucking 40.

Cris: But Ferrari?

Sidey: No, Tino has. But no.

Cris: Okay, I've seen how they look

like both of them. Mm-Hmm. ,Both

the

four, then the Ferrari, but

Dan: I saw like these high performance cars and everything. Sometimes you see them around Jersey, they'll cruise through. Very occasionally.

Sidey: limit here is 40, max.

More often than not it's 30.

Dan: So they're obviously.

Sidey: Barely getting out of second gear. Yeah.

Dan: It's probably

bad for

them being over here, to be honest.

Reegs: Was it a

Ferrari or was it a Lamborghini that that guy trollied delivering it? It was a Ferrari, wasn't it? Delivering it along the,

Sidey: the

Dan: did, I did see a Lamborghini

Reegs: it into a wall.

Dan: the other day near Half Day Park. Yeah.

it's crisp. Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah, I just think,

what the fuck? What are you doing? I mean, unless you're a real enthusiast and you're taking it away on track days. I just don't understand the point here.

Dan: what these guys are doing.

This is back in their day Ferrari has just mopped up Le Mans after Le Mans after Le Mans, but it, which is this 24 hour endurance racer, the fastest cars.

The most insane drivers.

Reegs: Three and a half minutes or just over three minutes, I think is about what it takes to do the course, isn't it? So you just do that endlessly for 24 hours.

Cris: Yeah. The movie starts

with Matt Damon's character.

almost blacking out. No.

Reegs: Yeah, it does in 1958, I think, as he, as he wins the Lamar, the only American driver to have done it in recent history in the movies timeline. And then after he is kind of blacking out and then afterwards, he's recalling that as in, in the doctor's So office where they're telling him not

To race anymore and he fucking drives off in his car and 100 miles an hour like really recklessly popping pills Carol shelby.

Dan: And Yeah, so

this is based on a true story, so these are the

real folk and yeah, carol Shelby's, You he's a bit of a beast. He's an insane driver, you know, he's the first American to win it.

So when he gets back to America Everybody wants his autograph and he's got quite the name in race cars and he started up this business, shelby I or something. shelby motors and they were

Reegs: now

Cris: living now. Yes.

Reegs: Yes,

Sidey: ken miles.

Cris: Yeah,

Dan: Yes, Ken Miles. Grumpy northerner. He

Cris: He is

British though in real life.

Christian

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah, but he's doing

Sidey: Welsh,

isn't

Reegs: He's Welsh,

Cris: Okay, well British, sorry,

Is that Not part of Britain. No,

Sidey: Yes, but I think the Welsh would say, no, he's Welsh.

Cris: Okay.

Reegs: doing a Northern

Sidey: I don't care, but they would.

Reegs: Yeah, they would care.

He's doing a sort of a Northern accent sometimes, it wanders around all of the North, then goes a bit further North, and then goes to the South right

Sidey: I was picking, you know, mainly Yorkshire, but

Reegs: it's a good transformative, another sort of transformative physical performance from him.

He stoops a lot. And

Sidey: And then dropped it Yes,

Reegs: Yes. 'cause

Cris: Yeah, you can't look 70 you can't lose 70 kilos 70 kilos a lot

Sidey: And Matt Damon said, well how do you manage that?

I said, well I didn't eat

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: if

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. And if you've seen Ken Miles, the a photograph of him

Then

then you just start

to

realize how he how he transforms his, almost his, like his facial features as well though, not just

Cris: he's almost pouting a little bit when he

Dan: Yeah, he's got to move his,

jaw,

out,

Reegs: he's like the best damn mechanic that there is, right? And we're introduced to him, I think, when he's slating a a customer who's brought his sports car to him to be fixed.

He basically can't drive it. Is what he's saying to him. He's disgusted at him. He loves the machine. So he's like, you know, Maverick, best of the best type character straight off the bat,

Sidey: But

struggling

and

you know,

not really making ends meet.

Yeah. Well certainly as much as he'd like Um, he did when he races we do see some get right straight into him racing and what is handy is that he kind of narrates everything that he does for you in all the sequences, which is handy because otherwise it'd just be a man sitting in a car Yeah

Dan: yeah, he's talking to the car a lot.

he's he's saying letting her know or

Saying what's wrong, you know, or you're lifting up too much because there's air getting under here right side And and through the film there's various kind of little tests and things one of them is when they put this um

the, the

Pieces of string on the bonnet and they're

they're speeding along.

Yeah, I'm

just showing an example of him knowing the

motor

and he's kind of froze These

you know,

He just knows the cars so well. Even when they go to prove it afterwards, it's exactly what he said.

Reegs: what he said He's just that damn

good. They

Cris: him at the race, know when The episode of the ranch or whatever it's called.

Reegs: Yeah. It's the first scene where we see the,

Cris: him and his son,

Reegs: And they know each other where he's entering his car in a race and the bonnet has to the boot has to close. Yeah. And it doesn't quite do it, so he fucking beats it with

Dan: it yeah he's been kind of, picked on by some official, isn't

he yeah And he's saying that is the, it's slightly too big or it can't go in

here and and he just starts beating it to pieces to fit and then has a go at Matt Damon.

Reegs: Yeah. But the sort of plot as it is kicks off really with John Bernthal, who I,

Sidey: I was delighted to see him in this, yeah.

Reegs: always like him and he plays a Ford sales executive called Lee Iacocca.

And Ford is going through this kind Existential crisis, they're not making any sales, they've got a very drab market image, which Iacocca points out in this sort of board presentation where he's taking, you know,

Dan: he's in marketing.

Yeah

Reegs: He clearly loves cars, he knows what's wrong with it's marketing and not sales.

He they're all the fucking same to me. And he he comes up with this initiative to Henry Ford, the second from the get go living in the shadow of his grandfather. He's in a Dick swinging contest with him. And, you know, pitch is this idea that the thing we should do is take on Ferrari in this Lamar race.

It's the thing, you know, is the thing we should be doing. We'll get some of that sexiness that.

Dan: race cars.

Yeah, and and to do this, then cause he's taken with it.

He thinks, oh, this could be an idea. The, I'm not sure if it's, if it's a little bit later on, then the they try and make a deal.

Reegs: That's it. It pitches him the idea of buying it. Ford Ferrari. And they go out to Ferrari for this visit. And this is where, this is one of the central things.

I'll come back to this, I guess, at the end, but they show you Ferrari's factory. They take Iacocca on a tour. And he goes around and you see all these amazing hand precision by like incredible engineers putting these cars together and it's just beautiful. And then at the end of it you know, they offer him some money and it basically it's all been a big ploy as they'll later find out.

He sort of spits in it, shoves it. What does he say? He says something really hurtful

Dan: Yeah. He says, your cars

Reegs: you're, you're the second. It's

Cris: Henry Ford II. and it turns

Dan: along. He sold, he

Reegs: and it turns out He was you know, let's skip ahead because this is a long film He was using it to jack up the share price so that he could sell actually to fear so this is fucking wound henry ford ii right up, especially when he hears that that you're just the second Remark

Dan: wants to hear everything,

Reegs: when he's like right we're gonna get carol shelby.

He's the only guy who's ever won You Lamar, and he's gonna come and win it for us. So that is your plot kind of set up.

Dan: And,

and the other bit to add to that is that Shelby wants ken miles to be the

driver. Yeah. And

ken miles isn't a a guy that's gonna conform to Any kind of structure.

Cris: And they also have only six months, I

Dan: Yeah. They

Reegs: just tell you that though, don't they? And then they occasionally like at the, when he meets that asshole executive for the first time, he's a little bit rude about the Ford Mustang. Isn't he? But

Sidey: yeah. So he gets some card development now, don't we? Yeah. And it pretty much straight away looks like.

GT40 is it? And it's just various iterations about how we can, you know,

and,

Ken Miles is there to add his expertise as an engineer and I guess like a test driver, but they don't want him.

He's not enough of a team player to actually drive. And he doesn't, they're worried that when, let's say he wins the race, they're thinking as soon as someone shoves a microphone in front of him, he's going to say something. He's going to hurt the Ford image. He's not the kind of person that we want to represent us.

Let's keep his expertise, you know, tucked away and we've got these other company men who can be the front.

Reegs: he's absolutely instrumental to it and we see he's devoted his whole life to it.

There's a great bit because he keeps, they fall out and they fall in and all that stuff. There's a bit where he brings him the car and he's not, he's supposed to just be doing something else. And he goes and takes it off for a spin around the track and he gets out and he's like, yeah, you've got to tighten the left chisel.

Monkey and then he's like, hang on a minute. I'll just get back in. And he's just going around the track. So he's not only this amazing engineer, he's also the shit hot driver in the,

Dan: Yeah, yeah, he's

Sidey: So, not only this amazing engineer, he's also this shit hot driver in the car. Quite the guy. gauges in films this will be right up here because there are hundreds of shots of the revometer And the needle going towards the red bit

Reegs: It does serve a thematic purpose at the beginning of the film. What's his chops? Damon talks about a 7, 000 RPM. There's a point

Sidey: 7, 000 rpm

Reegs: It's like a Zen like state. That's going to come back at the very end of the movie. Who knew it to, to pay off. So yeah, there are, there's a lot of gauge content.

Definitely.

So, fucking hell, we have to zip through a load of it. They go to Daytona and they lose but he's, and then they go, they go to, sorry, they go to Le Mans and they lose but Damon tells him don't worry we actually won because we clocked the fastest speed.

Dan: But

Reegs: also you weren't allowed to take Ken.

Yeah.

Dan: Ken's left at home and he's listening to it on the radio. His ever faithful wife comes in to support him that evening. Because he is just tinkering on another car.

Listening to it on

the radio, so there's there's that theme of his kind of constant family support.

He's got a son

with him.

Reegs: Also, he's left out a bit. There's a shot earlier on where you, Matt Damon's making a big speech to everybody and you think, and he's saying, Oh, the man who's responsible for all this. And you think he's going to say Ken Miles and he doesn't. He says Henry Ford. And it's a sort of, a sort of implication that maybe Ken Miles didn't get the credit that he deserved

Dan: Absolutely yeah yeah we're And, you know, he, you can see him

kind of suck that in a little bit at a time and go right.

Okay. That's the way it is here but yeah he he does try to be a team player next time it comes round. They haven't won this feud is still going on. Ferrari's still rubbing it in their nose and he wants To win still he still hasn't given up. So he says right

look Cheers After they

lose, I think. did they lose once more?

Yeah,

Sidey: they, they lose. It's another forward. There's kind of two teams within the division and that other arsehole is kind of in charge and

Dan: Oh, this is big gauge moments,

Sidey: falling out, don't they? And then Matt Damon has to basically confront Henry Ford and say,

Reegs: This is good, this is

Sidey: my way or the fucking highway. If you want to win.

Dan: he, They, they lock his right hand man up in the office.

And then quickly, spirit Henry Ford away in the GT for a spin with Carol Shelby.

Sidey: Well, there's another bit. First when he, when he shows him the old factory from the war. Yeah. And they, and he, and he, at, at that point he says, yes, okay. You can have Ken,

Reegs: It's because he takes him in the

car,

Sidey: then he, he, and he bursts out

Reegs: He's just crying. Yeah, he's like, I had no idea. He's just throwing him around the track at, like he, then he's saying like, the guy who knows this car and can drive this car the best needs to be in it. And suddenly Henry understands,

Sidey: he cries and he says if I just wish you know my father

Reegs: had been alive

Sidey: Because he would absolutely would if I could love

this.

Yeah, Yeah

Dan: been the lightest. he really absolutely would have fucking loved this Yeah, and I bet you a window toner or it's my whole company on the

Reegs: Yeah, I know. He didn't need to offer that.

Yeah.

Dan: It was like, you had the deal.

Reegs: Just take him for another lap. He'd do anything

Dan: was literally just crying. You know, you had him. But he maybe would have welched on that

Because that's happened a couple of times where they've told Shelby you've got total control he's gone to tell Ken Right, Ken. It's me and you. Let's do it our way. And then control's been taken from him again. by Ford, And he is, it's broken

the relationship a little bit in the trust between ken And and they've had numerous kind of scraps and fall ins and

Reegs: It's hard not to see, like, parallels to sort of our Hollywood, you know, with the executives meddling with the creatives and that sort of

Sidey: thing.

Dan: thing. Well, this is it. So that that is exactly what it is They're saying oh look go and win it for us and then tying one hand behind

his back, and not

letting him do it his way

Cris: Well, with

the Daytona thing, they say, don't put it over 8, 000 RPMs.

And

then he actually,

he instead,

of, in order to win it, he actually does it.

Dan: Yeah, he just goes 7,000 plus, doesn't he, On, on the side on a board. He, he tramples across the screen.

Sidey: I

Cris: yeah, yeah, so they get going and immediately there's a problem. Well, hang on

they

Sidey: Yeah. So they get. They get going and immediately there's a

Reegs: Well, hang on, we get a lovely exposition scene just beforehand where his son has literally made a track diagram. So we can have, we can like have a little look at it and know what we're going for. It's going to be the last hour of the movie. And they tell us that you start by running to your car. I had once known that and forgotten it and realized it again.

So they do, they run to their cars. It's fucking carnage at the beginning. Like not just his, I mean, it's just cars crashing all over the place and

Dan: some of them are out before they've started, really.

Reegs: And here's one's his door won't close which I've had that in my old Fiesta and it was not nice,

Dan: yeah. the Ford problem, I guess.

Sidey: I guess. Then there's some, there's some racing action, and he's We get to see from our point of view that the brakes are red hot.

Reegs: break

Sidey: there's going to be a problem there.

And sure enough, he just, as he's about to attempt an overtake maneuver his brakes let him down and he has a bit of a scrape. So he brings that in and they're actually able to replace the whole system, which,

Cris: which,

Reegs: the whole rear assembly, if you're a car guy, you probably know

Dan: talking about. They, they, well, they've designed the car as differently as

Reegs: Trigger's Broom, albeit this, innit? Cause like, is it still

Sidey: That's Ferrari's point. It's like, that's not in the rules. They're like, yes, it's just, it's

Dan: Well, they're calling it a different, They're changing a part. yeah, And the part is a wheel and it's brakes and everything with it. So,

Sidey: So he's, he goes back out, but I guess around this sort of point, he's two laps down on Bandini is the guy that they need to catch.

And so this is probably the best bit of all my favorite bit of the racing action is him then chasing him down. And at first he doesn't, because he's just had this near miss with the brakes. He has to sort of, Trust they say he doesn't trust the car yet. And he does eventually he's able to outbreak bandini and he gets around another time before having to come in again, I think

Reegs: There's a load of shit. Eventually, I think Bandini's car just, it, cause it is an endurance race and eventually like, the cars all kind of fall away and it's like, he's clear, it's clear that he's going to

be the

Sidey: they've actually got a ford one

Reegs: And they come in for just a regular pit, And this is where Josh Lucas, the meddling executive, he played exactly the same role in Hulk.

Do you remember that?

Sidey: Yeah, yeah,

Reegs: Ang Lee one. He has this idea. Oh, wouldn't it be brilliant if Ford at the moment of 123 and he wants the cars to finish photo finish 123. And so it's this big moment. He, I think Christine Bale's character, Ken Miles overhears. It

Dan: know He's told it by Matt

beam

Sidey: he sees them talking and he thinks, something's up.

And I'm gonna get fucking stitched up here. And I was disappointed that Kalashev just didn't say, no, fuck off, we're not doing it. Yeah, but he

Reegs: he gives it, he gives the power of that decision over to Ken Miles. Basically, he's kind of like, Oh, you do what you want, Ken.

And then, so Ken then goes back out on the road and does

the great thing. He absolutely smashes the lap record about four times in a row. And then has this moment at 7, 000 of Zen of oneness. And he realizes what you should do is kowtow to the corporate. Executives. I was watching this like,

Sidey: Going back on all his, everything that we've shown about him, yeah.

All

Reegs: All of the things that made him important And

Cris: when he decided to be a team player is now, when

Reegs: he does eventually slow down so that the other forwards can, and they, you know, this was true. They did take a photo and it looked great and all that stuff, but he did eventually lose the race.

But he didn't come first traveled fewer distance a less amount of distance because the other car started further back on the track. It's

Dan: and when you have to run to it That's that's the bit that counts

Cris: and apparently the executive guy knew

That was the argument

Reegs: not true in real life that although, but

Cris: yeah,

I don't know. they make it kind of,

they kind of insinuate that he knew

That's what Shelby kind of

Sidey: So what a perfect, happy ending to the film.

Dan: film. You should probably mention that Ken is actually fairly

Reegs: should probably mention that Ken is actually fairly sanguine about it and he's like, you promised me a race not to win.

Dan: doing this, or understanding to be a team player, was going to allow him to continue to work.

In this team and continue maybe to do it again and it's what he loved doing It was just kind of you could

Sidey: at this point he was getting good money, adjust for inflation. He would have been on about 400 grand a year

Dan: Yeah, So he might have he might have fancied a bit of that and just thought if I rip through here i'm blowing that

I

need the cash and maybe that's influenced him

To the point of staying in there, but it

Reegs: But I was going to say, at least in the language of the movie, his punishment for that decision, really, because this is how it flows for that decision to compromise on his values is to be killed. That is how it's presented in a horrible accident on a test drive. That is kind of how it's presented.

It's a very bizarre way of

Dan: Yeah, I I

didn't really take it that way, but I could see how, you know, it leads,

Sidey: that is what happens.

They go, they're testing, he's, he's found a way or they found a way to reduce the weight of the, because as they're walking off the track, he says, oh, we need to redo the chassis

Reegs: the car.

Sidey: blah, blah, blah. And so they've managed to strip, I think it's another a hundred kilos or a hundred pounds or whatever the

Dan: grams or whatever I mean it's already

Sidey: talking about honeycomb design and whatever, and he scoots off and we get the millionth shot in the film of Matt Damon looking into the distance and as he's as he's at the furthest part away of, I guess it's a test track we just see the car barrel off the roads and just a big Kind of explosion but a big fire, you know, like a cloud of smoke and dust and you think

Reegs: It's done quite effectively because a lot of the driving scenes are very big and in your face and this one happens like miles

Sidey: way away and everyone runs over but the boy is there.

The lad is there and he's just kind of stood looking and Carroll Shelby just looks back and he's like, oh Like,

Dan: Oh, fuck

Sidey: And he has died and the next bit is Matt Damon returning that symbolically returning the wrench. Yeah. And he sees the boy and just tells him to be good or something.

And just waves at the missus and fucking drives off like an absolute maniac.

Reegs: yeah. Yeah.

Dan: Tears off again

Cris: in the sunset.

Dan: There's a there's a few black and white photos. I think at the end there as well, isn't there, Yeah. Of yesteryear.

And And that was it. I sense applause wasn't felt all the way around. Chris, what did you think?

Cris: I did like it. I did say last week that I watched it already

and I

did like it for two and a half hours for a movie for me to not fall asleep.

Dan: That's

a record in

Cris: I, Again, I understand i'm not all these terms obviously like I said, I don't even know how to drive so all these terms of rpms and chassis and wrenches

Dan: No, you just got to go with it

Cris: all chinese, but

it

was good.

I like both. and I actually like both of them as actors uh the the, What's

his name Iacocca, the actor I love him. He's amazing. So all in all,

and with ford and with cars

and all that, it's quite interesting. The

portrait of the italians

and then, oh, you're not Henry Ford the first and then he's in

the american style like, oh,

we're going to be bigger

and better. It's cool. Quite a funny little thing. I enjoyed

  1. It's good It's not gonna I don't know

if it's won any Oscars. I don't think it's gonna win any oscars.

Sidey: No I don't

Dan: don't

know, I

think it was in the oscars. But yeah, that's that's I I enjoyed it. I thought it was Really good Clearly beautifully shot. I mean, you got some of the best actors in the world and biggest names They bring something to the screen each time, you know, and looking as I say at the photograph and uh of, Of ken miles and and then looking at christian bale and seeing again that transformation He's such a brilliant actor and can just throw himself into somebody you feel

completely

different person, you know, so, really enjoyed watching him Matt Damon in this again is the big executive and the guy the, the, the the boss after being the race car driver

Again, just a familiar face easy to watch

Matt Damon

and, and so, yeah, it was, it was a win for me.

Cris: Was it pops

Mm-Hmm. . Yeah. I liked him as

a as an actor.

He's he's good. So

Sidey: I can tell you that it did win two

Dan: There

Cris: did it?

Okay, go on well

Dan: best?

Sidey: It was nominated

for four best it was nominated for best motion picture of the year

and it was also nominated for best achievement in sound mixing

Dan: Was

Sidey: it won it did it won the big two which is the best achievement in film editing that's pretty fair because the racing stuff is

Dan: Yeah,

Reegs: I think the cinema talk, it's got a really like bright color palette. That was really nice. I didn't like some of the CGI, especially the nighttime driving scenes were pretty abysmal. But

Sidey: but don't hang on because it also won the best achievement in sound editing.

Reegs: Yeah, sound was good. Yeah.

Sidey: Editing it was obviously well received. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah.

I

Reegs: think probably the editing held this movie together because I do like Matt Damon and Bale But I thought Bale looked like he was kind of having quite a lot of fun Matt Damon seemed to be doing an impression of Tommy Lee Jones to me for the whole movie. He chewed that piece of gum like he fucking hated it and

Sidey: I just thought every time I looked at the screen he was just stood looking down. This is boring.

Reegs: I was like, in a battle between a global monolith renowned for production, producing, like Ferrari says, ugly cars in an ugly factory. Why would I care that they won? Why would I want them to win against the beautiful, hand precision, engineered Ferrari? Why? And it's so, it is, that's, yeah. The problem is, 'cause that's how the movie wants to present it, is like, play things of these two rich guys, great.

But if it had been a little bit more about Ken Miles, maybe, whereas that's where the story was,

I

Dan: little bit more about Ken

Miles maybe that's where the, story was, I think. the

sound and everything took an Oscar as well because they were all, you know, it's really clear, it just, and the color palette, everything was just easy there and easy to hear, and a lot of films sometimes are lost, you know, you can't hear what people are saying or, None of that.

Okay, it was a little bit over the top, take your part by Tommy Lee Jones.

I was trying to think what who

who he

reminded

me

Cris: could have been shorter though.

Have been

Sidey: I was going to be the runtime Nazi on this one. It's fucking way, it's an hour too long, man. It's a fucking pretty basic story. It's,

Dan: He didn't drag for me though, I must

Sidey: for me though. I was on my phone quite a lot. I just

Dan: yeah, right

Sidey: who cares?

It's

just a fucking thing for Yanks to beat off about their fucking Mustangs. It's just boring.

Dan: Solid. But what did you think, reeks was yours?

Reegs: was

okay. Yeah. Yeah, I'll give it okay. I always like a true story, so I'm a sucker for that now apparently.

Sidey: We did rush remember we did like way way back like episode three or

Reegs: That was considerably

Sidey: lot a lot better than

Reegs: this, which is often, you know, a bit schmaltzy, and, I don't think I like Matt Damon anymore.

He's a good actor, but the crypto thing has thrown me.

Cris: What's going on with

the

Sidey: Yeah, i'm not into this. What's he done?

Reegs: he was hawking some fucking crypto, did adverts for him and

Sidey: Oh, really?

Reegs: like, come on, man. You're

Anybody now still being taken in by that shit has

Dan: Well, He started his own coin or something, Is he the Matton coin? He,

Reegs: they

drove a, You

know, it's the Simpsons thing, they drove a truckload of money to his house so he goes and promotes fucking beetle coin or something.

Dan: Yeah,

Sidey: This is a strong recommend though.

Cris: strong

recommend.

Dan: Go for it.

Sidey: The

racing car, and they've spelt Rory, R-O-A-R-Y. Clever. Well,

Reegs: Scythe, would you believe that this program is at the center of a big conversation about Mandela effect?

Sidey: Really? Are that not true? That it's felt that

Reegs: It is, it is spelt that way, absolutely. But many people, and I checked, Dan included when you first put this, well, swear blind, and it was called Rory, R O R Y, not Rory.

Sidey: It's

the, it's the, it's a onomatopoeia, isn't it? Yeah,

Reegs: it's an onomatopoeia, absolutely, yeah. but yeah, it is a big set, like it's right up there with one of the big Mandela

Sidey: Do you

Reegs: Do you know the Mandela effect? Some people swear blind You know, that certain things happened that they can remember that don't appear to be true. I've completely forgotten the actual titular Mandela effect, which is about him being imprisoned, I think.

But there are other examples, like the Berenstain Bears, and what other people think they're called, and they say they're, like, things that they remember from another timeline,

Dan: sort

of thing. Oh, Right, Okay.

No, I think

I probably just spelt it wrong.

Reegs: Yeah,

Sidey: This, this

could have been narrated by Ken Miles because it's, it's a kind of, it's another North English.

Wait, did it was, you told me, didn't you? It was Peter Kay.

Oh, not the narrator, sorry. Sterling Sterling Moss and character voiced by your mate Peter Kay.

Reegs: V. A. K.

Dan: it, Is

voice just grates to you a little bit, Does it?

Sidey: Yeah. Just hates northerners.

Dan: Right, well, I mean, if anybody's not seen war, read a Racing

Sidey: I'd never heard of it before.

Dan: Really? Yeah.

It was huge! War with the Racing Car was huge. There was the toys and everything. I thought everybody heard of

this. Really? Yeah.

Cris: I've never heard of this.

Dan: Wow. I res

Reegs: no, but then your

Sidey: It predated The person was significantly younger.

Yeah, it older. Yeah.

Reegs: even

Sidey: It predated

my eldest, because this ran from the 7th of May, very specifically, the 7th of May, 2007 to the 29th of September, 2010. And

Reegs: where were you during that

Dan: Yeah.

very much watching Rory, the racing car

it'd be on, it wasn't even our favorite then and going back to it now with this.

episode that we watched, Rory did something,

some

man came and said some

Sidey: It

was having night terrors.

Dan: Yeah,

Reegs: It was Rory's first day.

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: season one

episode one.

Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Rory was in the garage making some noise and Peter Kay went to check on him. And he was having night terrors about the race that was about to happen.

And that he was going to not perform sexually.

Dan: not perform. And

Cris: then what's his

face? Big Chris tells him the story to put him at ease. He just tells him the story about,

Oh, I've got an idea.

I'll

tell you the story about the

small red racing car.

Reegs: Yeah. I feel we haven't set this up really.

Dan: Well, everybody's on acid at this point during Rory and the Racing car

and it just goes off, doesn't it?

It's crazy, there's a big No, it's not this Rory, is it?

Sidey: it? Is

it, is it claymation or is it fake claymation?

Reegs: No, it's real. It's real claymation. It's sort of like the Cars universe, except there are people in it as well.

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: and it doesn't look like Yeah, Big Chris was a person,

Cris: Ah, right, no, I thought you mean inside the

car.

Reegs: No. but yeah, exactly. Does that, if you get inside a car, is that like sexually assaulting them?

Dan: Well,

Cris: Well, he lived in Mr. Rusty.

big

Chris.

he

Reegs: he? I'll bet he bloody did.

Dan: Yeah, it It is a little bit well, Rory is

Sidey: so they're like transformers then

kind of, well,

Reegs: Chris, you're right. No, we never see anybody get in and out of it. They can move

Dan: Rory's.

As

Sidey: Well, yeah. 'cause they race.

They

Reegs: do.

Well, yeah, it's right there in the title.

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: Well, anyway, that's the story. He's having trouble sleeping and then Big crystals in the story

of

his first day, which is, I don't

know how the, how this,

First of all, it came across

to me that

Rory is quite a bit whingy in

this.

first episode. He, he's,

Sidey: he's a little bitch.

Cris: He doesn't trust himself. He keeps crying. Oh, I don't

know if

I'm good enough. Oh, I'm

never going to be big enough. And then, then it tells you

the positive story about how he came to, to

the first day and Mr. Carburetor,

Reegs: carburetor,

Cris: yeah, with the golden teeth. I'm sure going to show you about your little red car.

Ha ha ha.

And then he keeps not having faith until he meets Sissy.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: Who is the French car.

Reegs: She was sexy, man. That voice. Yeah. She was like very, very French. It's what I would say about Sissi.

Dan: CeCe?

Sidey: So like a Citroen or a Peugeot or something?

yeah.

Dan: No, she was yeah.

Reegs: She had a little bit of Renault.

Dan: was a Citroen.

Cris: And the other two

Cars in the garage is an american car a dodge or something. Yeah, and I dunno the other

Reegs: That one

stayed in the garage because all american cars are shit. Probably I don't know anything about cars.

Dan: No. And

Reegs: other

Cris: The other one is is that an, like an italian car or something

Reegs: maxi the the race. He's the race car.

Cris: Yeah, but he, he sounds

Reegs: Yeah,

Dan: He'd be a lambo

Sidey: But there's only four cars in it, isn't there?

Cris: Yes.

Sidey: Yes,

Reegs: Yes,

Cris: the mr. Rusty, which is the van where Chris sleeps.

Dan: I honestly thought this was still going. It was that big at the time that it didn't feel like it was ever gonna end.

Well,

Cris: it does end. This episode

ends quite

quite

soon after

the story because

Sissy

encourages him to go race.

And he, he does a lap. He kind of, it's pretty much, Like the, Le Mans 66 that we

Dan: Yeah,

Cris: But, but just

Sidey: Better.

Reegs: Well, even down to Mr. Carburetor was a bit like Enzo Ferrari, I thought.

Cris: Yeah, a little bit. A bit of a

prick. So, they, him and sissy race around the

course,

warm up, and then they

actually race

with all four of them.

And

he gains the confidence. rory And he wins.

Reegs: Yeah.

But this is in the dream, isn't it? Yes. Because then he wakes

Cris: well No, it's in the story. It's in the story.

Reegs: It's in the, yeah. But then

Sidey: being told.

Reegs: yeah, but is he, doesn't he fall asleep during the story

Cris: yes, he falls asleep.

But that's at the end. he,

after the story finishes, you see him snoring and Big Chris. Oh, good night. Rory,

whatever and then he wakes up the first

Reegs: puts a banana in his tailpipe.

Cris: Or a carrot, I don't know, Whichever. And he's the first one to wake up and be really excited. because he had a good night's sleep And then everyone else is being a whiny bitch.

and he cheers them

all up We'll, Oh,

let me tell you a story

to

Reegs: Which is really a kind of humble brag about this time that I won the race and I was the fucking

Cris: you bitches. So there

Reegs: he's going to tell a story that you were all, yeah, we were like, yeah, we were all there, Rory. Fuck's

Cris: that's the thing. That's why I didn't understand the first place.

because.

the mechanic tells him the story of about him and where he was there.

Dan: Yeah, It's

a plot just set to confuse you.

Reegs: But then

Cris: then it

finishes. And that was the end of

it.

Dan: It's

like Christopher Nolan thing. It's just, yeah, different timelines are happening.

all at

Cris: Where was this broadcasted? This

absolute masterpiece?

Dan: I can't remember. it ITV? I

think might have had

Sidey: it. It was Channel 5 and Nick Jr. It was created by David Jenkins.

Reegs: Jenko. He, I think it's, this had the Bob, the builder guy's involvement. The Chapman I think is the

Sidey: Chapman Entertainment, but I did look up there.

Filmography and their list of shows only includes four.

I don't know. This is the there must be more Fifi and the flower tots. Rory the racing car little Charlie bear and rah rah the noisy lion.

Dan: rah

Reegs: You are!

noisy Little lion.

Dan: was decent.

Reegs: Alright, we'll have to do that. 'cause

Cris: Is that like, that Katy Perry song.

Reegs: Yes.

Yeah,

Dan: yeah, yeah.

Cris: Oh no, that's Lady Gaga.

Sidey: No,

it's okay.

Cris: it Katy Perry? Yeah. Yeah, that, anyway, one of

Sidey: So I would say overall this would be

Reegs: strong

recommend.

Dan: strong strong recommend will be the racing car

Go

Cris: 14 minutes. boom.

Dan: Or

Sidey: another week. Yeah,

Dan: Yeah, it was Maybe we're gonna do something a little bit

Sidey: Well, next week there'll be some we'll revisit some old pods. That, that Nightcrawler one needs some more exposure. We should probably put that out

Reegs: out again.

And then

Sidey: but then

the week after that, I think it's

Dan: it

Cris: to be me, and

that's why I've

asked

the question earlier, if assassins, top 5 assassins, is a topic

that we can

  1. Because if it is,

we, I've got,

mid week is the Jackal.

Sidey: They, the jackal

Cris: Bruce Willis.

Dan: Right, okay. They're No, that's Hudson Hawk.

Cris: No, no. That's a death Wish when he

skateboards

About Carlos the Jackal,

and Sisu,

I said I'm going to nominate. And it's, it's slightly, he's not necessarily an assassin in terms

of a hired gun, but he does kill a lot of people. And as a top five assassins

and

Reegs: oh, we're not having that though.

Are we in the top five assassins? We're not having just killed a lot of people surely. We're gonna have like proper

Sidey: you have to be paid.

Cris: Well, No.

No. Yeah. You. Yeah You get like john wick and whoever else you

Reegs: or blood vendetta is

Cris: but for me, for me, it was more the

fact that

I Wanted to put sisu as

a as

a main

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

Cris: I wanted to associate it with

something, not just Sisu and then a cartoon

and then, you know,

Sidey: Well I think that was Darren, Darren Leafley's favourite film of last year

Reegs: okay, Sisu, and then what child friendly assassination

Cris: This is

where I'm

a little bit,

Dan: Ben 10

Have

we done Ben 10?

Sidey: No? Is he an assassin?

Dan: Oh, yeah.

Cris: I was thinking there's this, I don't know if anyone

remembers this animated series called Diabolik with a K.

Sidey: No.

Cris: And he's kind of like a superhero, masked kind of

guy.

But he's also a bad guy in

the,

kind of like a Batman, but

I'm not really sure if he's French or not.

But I

need to figure out.

Sidey: it's with

a

Cris: he's with a K,

and it's

Reegs: It's like those are the two options. He's either Batman or he's French. Right. I

Cris: sorry, I didn't want to say

it like that, but you know

what I mean though.

Sidey: though. Well, we'll have a look at that maybe.

Cris: Yeah, I'll,

I'll, I might be that, that might be. if, If there's anywhere where I can find it, then if it's not 30 minutes episodes, then I might

then if we need to do anything extra, I'm pretty sure we can find another movie about assassins.

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah, I'm

Cris: where, Where we

can say two

midweeks. Maybe the Banderas

one where it is called Assassins. but I don't know,

that's,

Dan: that's Sorry, did I speak

Cris: sorry. did I speak too long?

Dan: I

don't,

Reegs: I don't, I don't, I usually skip breakfast. No, it's not, really,

Dan: but

No, avocado,

Sidey: for me. I've

Cris: I've got the

breakfast locked in because I'm not working these days, so

I'll have to have breakfast properly.

Sidey: I've polished his avocado.

Dan: You have

Cris: Yeah. I've Avocado, the eggs

toast.

Reegs: As often, yeah.

Dan: Why are you skipping?

Reegs: skipping? I don't know. I'm not often that hungry in the morning.

Dan: hungry in the

Sidey: What about you

Dan: Are you Having something? I try to have something, at least a cup of tea and a bit of

toast,

or

Reegs: Yeah, I have a hot drink and all that.

Sometimes I'll have a a rice

Cris: way. Sometimes I'll

Dan: I'm just,

Alright. Okay. don't

have to, you're right. We could take, we could take

this off

Cris: don't have to, you're right.

Reegs: Oh,

Dan: Oh, right, okay, something's fallen

Sidey: Right, in that case

Cris: off. Oh, right. Okay, something's falling. You should get lunch.

But

Sidey: No, man. Did you

Dan: skip lunch?

Sidey: I couldn't do

Reegs: Don't you need a

Dan: I'm a snacker

Cris: I've got Brazil nuts. I have to eat Brazil nuts every day, so that's Selenium,

for my eyes.

Which I wish I didn't, when I've seen Napoleon Dynamite,

but Hey

Reegs: all

Sidey: Nevermind. Right, all that remains is to say, Sidey signing

Reegs: that he's not in

Cris: La revedere.

Dan: Dan's gone.