Edge of Tomorrow & Rugrats

Edge of Tomorrow

Reegs: Welcome to Bad Dads Film Review, and listen up morons, because POV, point of view, isn't just your favourite porn category, it's also a cinematic technique. Employed in the first person to demonstrate what a subject's eyes would see, or indeed not see if they were Justin Welby. And this week, we're celebrating 5 POV scenes in movies.

Our main feature is the high concept sci fi action movie, Edge of Tomorrow, starring Tom Cruise, and then we'll take you right over the finish line with our kids TV this week, Rugrats. If you were hoping to find a podcast that respects your intelligence and doesn't throw spoilers around, then I'm afraid you're shit out of luck.

We're as brazenly stupid and open as it would be to casually use cocaine whilst being filmed at a rocket ship launch with your president elect father hosted by the world's richest

Sidey: the world's richest

Reegs: All that's left to do after that is introduce the dad, starting with Dan, of course, who's reached an age where his back goes out more than he does.

Mhm,

mhm sexy Chris is in the house, he's got the looks of a Greek god and the brains of a Greek salad. And, of course, there's Sidey, who's been doing a lot for charity this week, including setting up a summer camp for soon to be abused teenagers. Isn't that right, Sidey? Yeah.

Sidey: then there's

Reegs: Uh, and then there's

Cris: and yeah, I was going to say,

Reegs: There's also me,

Dan: also you, isn't there, Simon? Have you been watching much this week?

Reegs: No.

Dan: No? Okay, this is going to be a really

Reegs: really short. I have.

Sidey: I

Dan: you have. Right,

Sidey: We watched, strap yourself in for this, we watched Bad Boys Ride or Die, I think.

Dan: What?

Reegs: the most

Sidey: most one, yeah.

Dan: Okay.

Sidey: I

Reegs: it might be good. No? It's terrible, is it?

Sidey: terrible.

Reegs: okay.

Sidey: I didn't check out as far as I just allowed myself to fall asleep. I didn't fight it. NK, who's a fan of the franchise and really likes the dumb action movies, said it was shit. Yeah, so, not a strong recommend on that one.

Cris: not a strong recommend.

Reegs: Is that michael bay as well is he back

Sidey: I think he cameos in it as well.

Oh, does he? Yeah, like Hitchcock. They're much the same. Yeah.

Reegs: he's bringing the bay him

Cris: I watched I told you this last week. This was actually last week, but I told you after the pod.

I watched the James Blunt documentary on Netflix, which is quite good. I, I like, I, the music, I, I don't hate it, but it's not like, Oh my God. I can't wait to hear James Blunt sing, but the documentary itself is really good. And he comes across as a really posh and annoying voice, but a really nice

Sidey: nice guy.

Cris: Yeah,

really funny and really on point and really honest and takes the piss is really good.

He

Reegs: He still seems to be pretty humble, considering everything that's happened to

Cris: Yeah. And,

Sidey: he

was,

Cris: He was Went to boarding school. He was in the army. He was in Kosovo all these things that you if you look at him You would never think he's like, oh, yeah, I'm a posh guy in the army. Haha. It's like I don't know.

It's quite funny he he kind of self deprecates quite a lot is really good and I've watched the is it the bikers called the bikers

Reegs: Oh, I want to see that.

Cris: Tom Hardy and Austin Butler

Reegs: whatever his name is.

Cris: And there's some other people in it. I really enjoyed this movie. The, I think it's called The Bikers.

Reegs: Yeah.

Everyone, all the women in the world wanna sleep with that Austin Butler

Cris: be fair

Reegs: him, he is pretty. He's got, what do they call it? Riz. He's got Riz,

Cris: he would slay. He's a very handsome man. The only thing I have nothing against him, and I don't want to sound horrible in any way towards women, but because he's such a handsome man, This lady in the movie is not really a,

Reegs: I don't

Cris: I don't know. He's he's and he's, I don't know how you say this.

Look like the Zoolander. he's so

suave and every time he looks and he

Reegs: I don't know how you're

Cris: I'm not doing that again, but

Dan: You can pull it

Cris: he just does the whole kind of, I don't know, the look and the eyes and all that. And this lady doesn't really, I don't think she's at the level of how hot or sexy he is. She's just like a normal.

kind of

Reegs: average human woman.

Cris: let's say, but the movie itself is really good. And for me, and I am going to be honest from the trailer that I watched a couple of maybe last year or something, I thought it would be a lot more violent as in gangs and knives and like proper, which is this is more of a drama, but a story of How the bikers started was the beginning the beginning of the bike gangs, but they weren't a gang They were just people on a motorbike.

Reegs: What's that like, is that cool? Bikers? Go on, quick, yes or no for bikers? It's a yes, it's a yes.

Dan: I'll say yes

Reegs: yes.

Yeah, it's a yes. Alright, yes for bikers.

Sidey: Unanimous. you

Dan: Okay. Bikers are cool.

Cris: And that's

Sidey: about you Dan?

Dan: I started to watch Stargate try to bring the movie.

Sidey: Spader? Yeah,

Dan: yeah. Tried to, to bring the family lamb with me, said Sunday night movie listens and they just all went into

Sidey: army.

Dan: No, No, no. They

they've they've just kind of brushed me aside.

Cris: Sorry. I've also watched the movie I told Sady about the Mexican musical the

Reegs: Oh yeah,

Cris: Emelia Perez.

Emelia Perez.

Reegs: Perez, I saw some clips of that online, it

Dan: Ay caramba.

Cris: Oh,

Sidey: Weird. Weird.

Cris: And I'm not gonna lie.

Reegs: it's a transgender

Cris: Yes, cartel guy, he becomes a woman. And then

Reegs: and it's like this clip I had was literally like a guy, a Korean guy going, we'll have to remove his penis or something like,

Cris: yeah, they sing Well, listen, it's Narcos meets Musical meets

Sidey: transsexuals

Cris: and I honestly and Selena Gomez speaks with an atrocious American accent.

She speaks Spanish which you can clearly tell she never spoke Spanish in her life.

Sidey: I thought she was

Cris: She's got the name for it to be Selena Gomez, but she can't speak

Sidey: All right. Okay

Cris: and Zoe Saldana is quite good. But still it's a I don't know. It's a dark musical

Sidey: Sounds weird enough to

Cris: yeah, it's very strange. Very strange. So yeah, I've watched that.

Sorry Dan to interrupt you

Reegs: that was probably worth bringing up.

Cris: That was something that I never thought I would watch because I've seen and it was another one that I got fooled by the trailer because I've seen the trailer you know when it pops up on your Netflix the the intro

Reegs: you were like transgender musicals I'm in.

Cris: it didn't really tell you that there was anyone transgender in the thing

Sidey: was a bonus then.

Cris: and yeah that was the boner as well which also the guy his wife in the movie was Selena Gomez and he decides to become a woman I don't

Sidey: But I think it's not a decision. Is

Dan: I don't get it. effects have aged badly

Reegs: Special effects have aged badly in that, haven't

Dan: haven't they? commit fully to it because I was on my own and I wanted to to bring the family with me.

We ended up watching the first of the pilot of Gilmore Girls or something.

Sidey: Oh right, okay, yeah, yeah.

Dan: As and it was like 45 minutes of

I dunno, and something I'm not gonna watch another 45 but apparently Nelly really liked

that

Sidey: another 45 minutes of.

But apparently Nelly really liked that one. My missus and this kid's mom went out to do something And so that was on and then I just got Yeah, it's all right He's just like relentlessly wants to be like playing with toys. Just annoying and then he disappeared for a while then I could hear him shouting and I went to find him and he shit himself

So so I had to clean that up and then he called me fat later on and he's fucking four years old this little kid So so that was fun, but

Reegs: fun.

Dan: Yeah, he's got you early.

Sidey: there was some drastic part in this.

It wasn't all bad. Yeah.

Dan: Nice, nice. Top five

Sidey: top five last week was couriers. I think, I think I might have read them all out last week. Did I?

Transporter, Scott Pilgrim,

Dan: Did anybody deliver as some?

Yeah.

Sidey: I don't think, did we mention the postman? I can't remember. And then Mel came in a bit later on and she seconded one of the ones we had, which is Toby Maguire delivering pizza in Spider Man.

Reegs: have that then.

Sidey: Yeah. Okay, done.

Dan: Done.

Okay, we've got another top five, haven't we?

Sidey: Top five POVs.

Dan: POVs. Okay. And for anybody who doesn't know, POV means point of view. I have a little quiz.

Reegs: Oh good, let's have a

Dan: look. And it's, it's around similar things. So I wonder if

Sidey: to go for that first? Shall

Dan: should we go for that first? We're talking quiz. Let's go for it.

So I'm going to give you some anagrams and, and those kinds of, not anagrams, you know, I mean, acronyms and you were going to. To put them out to me and tell me but I'll need a a beep a buzzer. So if I could just hear your buzzers

Cris: Bzzz.

Sidey: Acronym.

Dan: Okay, nice right so i'm gonna i'm gonna start off with a couple of easy ones just we we get it diy

Reegs: Ack. Do

it yourself.

Dan: easy we're getting the gist of it some of these will be film related

Reegs: film

Dan: Okay.

strap yourself in people

What does A F A I K mean?

Sidey: Acronym. As far as I know.

Dan: As far as I know, we've got a Just beat you to the buzzer, so I'm gonna, I'm

Sidey: Should have chosen a shorter buzzer cuz I think

Dan: You got acronym. I mean, I'll go in the A of the acronym.

Reegs: you could change your buzzer

Sidey: No, I'm sticking with it.

Dan: So I'm giving you a point for that. Reegs, I'm not giving you a point for the DIY

Reegs: Right, because it was just the, okay.

This is the first time you've ever actually taken score

Dan: Yeah,

Sidey: must be proud of this one.

Reegs: to see if you can like actually multitask. Have you got the questions actually printed out there?

Dan: Well, this is all pro

Reegs: you've actually prepared. I think this goes to the

Sidey: be quite a work. What does

Dan: mean?

Reegs: Ask me anything.

Dan: Ask me anything. What does AMA mean? Well done. What does ASAP mean?

Reegs: As soon as possible.

Sidey: Really?

Dan: Well done.

Reegs: How many of these are there, please? There's a hundred and seventy

Dan: we are starting it, we're starting with a, we're going all the way through to said.

Okay, now you, you, you've done okay so far, but this is where it starts getting serious and the, the questions start, we turn up the heat.

We turn up the heat. V. O.

Reegs: He's got three

Dan: Voice over. It is a voice over.

Chris, you're yet to, to score yet. I, I think this next one might be for you. Let's see if you've got it in you. What does M. E. D.

Reegs: for?

Sidey: Acronym. Michael's Erotic Donkey.

Dan: I'm giving you that because you've had a go but in fact, no, i'm not going to give you it's medium shot Okay

Sidey: What?

Cris: M. E.

D.

Dan: m e d stands for medium shot?

Sidey: right

Reegs: Oh, in film, in film

abbreviations

Sidey: I don't think that can be an acronym if

Dan: I think yeah, absolutely. Well mls

Cris: Major

League Soccer.

Reegs: League Soccer.

Dan: Any advancements?

It's not major league sucker. I'm gonna give you

It's actually medium long shot

Sidey: Alright,

Dan: you go. It makes sense. Now. We know it

Reegs: All right. Okay,

Dan: that's two to the banker it's locked it to each here. Chris is yet to get off the mark. But what does a n g stand for?

Reegs: that. I've

Cris: Don't look at me, I can tell you.

Dan: well, okay, that's one for the film buffs out there this angle

Sidey: That's not, that's an abbreviation, not an

Dan: Well, they're both of these. And this is the last one then because you all seem to be getting a little bit disruptive over these questions. B. M. stroke C. U.

Reegs: B. M. stroke C. U.

Dan: That's your big head close

Sidey: So relax,

Dan: we're locked, we're locked, it's a big head clo B H stroke

Sidey: Yeah,

Dan: C O, close up, big, I mean, you'll learn by the time we do this same quiz each and every week.

Reegs: time we do it.

Dan: We'll get there.

Sidey: Fair enough.

Reegs: what was the final scores

Dan: And it was 2 2, and Chris is the winner by not answering any.

Sidey: Well done, Chris.

Reegs: well done

Cris: I answered the MLS one, wrongly, but I answered

Dan: I think the Everybody watching this pod out there is the winner. Yeah. So, we're now top five.

Reegs: five. Top

Sidey: Povs, Go Riggs.

Reegs: Well, I'm going to go with probably possibly an obvious one, but Halloween John Carpenter's 1978 classic has a sort of five and a half minute sequence where it has many sequences. It's a shot that Carpenter uses over and over and over again is to be from the killer's perspective as he lurks behind something to watch.

But I think memorably in the beginning of Halloween is from the perspective of Michael, who's only eight or nine at this point and as he stabs his sister as he wears a evening as he watches her for minutes and all that stuff so yeah really

Sidey: horny

Reegs: horny yeah yeah

what's he got

Dan: Well, I, I've got Enter the Void.

Reegs: ah no no no no gas but

Dan: Mmm. And it's like the first 15 minutes of this film is, is all POV.

Reegs: POV. Yeah.

Dan: and it's not an angle actually that I,

I mean, we talked about Hardcore Henry in the midweek and just how much of that film is all POV, pretty much it all.

Whereas this starts out for the first 15 minutes and it does come out of that then. So it gives the viewers a little bit of a break because it can be a hard viewing experience for 90 minutes of, of watching. But yeah, this Enter the Void gives us 15 minutes coming in. And we're all from this point of view, point of view.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: Well you were speaking about Horny earlier, that my first

Yes, well to be fair, it was very close to when my first erection happened. Was a, a video.

Reegs: you don't you remember your first erection?

Cris: Well,

I dunno.

Dan: for you.

Sidey: Favorite

Cris: Yeah, I've got a list of like a top five. Top five. I've got a top five. What do you not, do you guys

Sidey: how? Yeah.

Dan: Is that big news?

be,

Cris: not so big these days. Video by the prodigy smack my bitch up, which was, is the first one I remember as a POV.

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah.

Dan: which you can hear. Just here smack my bitch up.

Sidey: Mm-Hmm.

Dan: No.

Cris: Yeah, anyway, that that was the first one. And especially I really liked it because it's like, it's

Sidey: big reveal at the

Cris: yeah, the big reveal at the end where it's this person causing all this chaos. And at the end it's, it's a lady. Yeah. It's well, girl,

Sidey: Yeah, that's a good one. That is a very good one. Well, watching Midweeker, Horrid Henry, I was thinking about Robocop. And you get the shot where they switch him on and then you get Robocop's POV.

Dan: that, for the pod, yeah, I

Sidey: do that for the pod, yeah, and it's all robotic and that because he's a robo thing and it's got his, we can see his point of view and then similarly, but more villainous is the Terminator, the T 800, when you can see his, what he can see and just go up and all the computations and things they're referencing on the screen through his eye.

It's really cool.

Reegs: that is cool. All the overlay, all that. One that I like is when you see somebody get decapitated and the point of view goes with their head as well.

Maybe turns. Quentin Tarantino is a big fan of that. Does it in Jackie Brown and Pulp

Dan: Well, I rem I had the one from the car scene in Reservoir Dogs when they open the boot of the car.

Yeah. And there's a classic one for film as well, isn't it? Where you are basically. in their boot of the car when somebody opens up the The boot

Reegs: the sports team,

Dan: love of sports team Yeah. yeah. that's a good one. Oh

Reegs: so yeah, I had that but I, the one I really wanted to talk about was first man. We watched Damien Chazelle's first man, this astonishing sort of ode to human ingenuity and bravery and a testament to what grief can do to a person as well. And it features several first person shots when he stands up.

on the surface of the moon is done. You take that first step with him, don't you? Very effectively. And it, and it blends in and out of first person perspective as it looks in the, I think, the reflection of his visor across the moon's surface. a really good one.

Dan: I've Not got too many left actually, because you've mentioned most of the ones. Being John Malkovich, I believe there was a few moments where we are actually going into John Malkovich's brain and we kind of have this point of view and even Malkovich, Malkovich has that same view. I've

got one more, but I'm going to hold it back for the choice of choices.

Reegs: Okay.

Cris: I've tried to watch this film, but I lasted about ten minutes. It's a movie with Daniel Radcliffe. It's called Guns

Sidey: Oh, his

Reegs: I've seen that,

Sidey: by guns.

Cris: Yeah, it's pretty much similar to Violin Henry, but just,

Reegs: Violin

Cris: but but he's just got guns and

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: the same. It just moved too fast for me and I didn't really stay to watch it.

However, I've, my claim to fame, I'll say it whenever I get the chance, I've met Daniel Radcliffe

Reegs: And was he alright?

Cris: He was a lovely fellow.

Reegs: Yeah, he

Cris: Yeah, he came, there was, I was in

Sidey: came? Yeah. Is this one of your erection stories

Cris: hand, yeah, in my hand, all in my hand. I was at a party in London at this posh flat and he happened to live in the same complex and apparently he just responded to the invitation and he was like, yeah, I had a couple of beers and left.

So he was really, just really normal guy, nothing

Sidey: It seems like someone who's you know, obviously had huge success with the potter franchise Then he's like i'm just gonna make like stuff

Cris: want,

Sidey: me. I don't care about all that

Cris: And I'm gonna also mention another movie that I really enjoyed and we reviewed for the pod, The Predator.

Reegs: Yeah, the Predator is a big

Cris: you've got the POV from The Predator with the heat, and we watched him in Prey, where he kinda has the same, you know, sensor and, you know, all that stuff, so.

Reegs: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alien as well is a similar type vibe. You get stuff from the creature's perspective and jaws, I think, famously from the stalking creature, the first person perspective of the shark,

because they didn't want to show

it.

Yeah.

Cris: Sign?

Sidey: Yeah,

Dan: yeah, yeah, yeah. Why not?

Sidey: Clockwork Orange, we get, we see what they're doing to Alex, where they pin his eyes open. Then it's, we've got his POV shot looking at the blue dego, whatever the hell the technique is called, where it's just getting blasted with all his subliminal imagery.

Which has quite the effect and also.

Did anyone see the TV series of Hannibal?

Dan: No, but

Reegs: bowed out of that after a little while. I wish it the missus just found it too twisted. I

Sidey: It was utterly, utterly twisted, but

Reegs: full on

Sidey: what's his name? The FBI agent, somebody Graham will Graham. He was a, he had a sort of. sense of what the crime scene was like and he was able to put himself in a kind of POV way into the actual crime scene and imagine what would have taken place in the Fucking horribly twisted murders.

That was good. I also didn't see that through to completion that series

Reegs: Yeah,

maybe I

Sidey: it. I can't remember why I think I should finish

Reegs: I remember thinking it's like it was obviously revolting

Sidey: I was worried about the people writing it saying he was coming up with this stuff. It's fucking bonkers

Reegs: twisted,

demented stuff kick ass has the scene where big daddy is rescued. I think he's set on fire screaming instructions at hit girl as she comes into the the warehouse when there's strobe effect things going on that has several shots doom Did you ever see that one with the rock?

You It was obviously based on a computer game. It has a five minute sequence in the middle where Karl Urban, I think it is, is running around shooting shit with, from the first person perspective. Star Wars, the shots down the trench as they go, are first person POV shots. Every binocular shot you've ever seen in a

Sidey: or telescope, Yeah

Reegs: something like that.

James Bond movies,

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah

Reegs: a binocular. Shot down the rifle of the barrel, and my very favourite, which I will say

Sidey: Go

on,

Dan: Well, FWIW

Sidey: what it's

Reegs: yeah.

Dan: I would go for the graduate and there's a scene in about not too long into the film where he's in a diving suit and he's in the bathroom in a diving suit and you see him kind of waddle out and then as he goes through the door then you get to see that The image through his eyes and he goes out through all these people like a real sort of 60s swimming pool party kind of thing and he's know talked into jumping into the pool and you can see this same POV shot as he's in the pool Looking up at them

and that is my Nomination.

Reegs: Good one. Chris, what have you got, Chris?

Cris: one of the best movies ever made, Crank, with Jason Statham, which there are quite a few POV scenes, when he's in the pool, going up to the guy, when he's on the bed and they're trying to cut his dick off, there's a few, Pretty much similar to the Violent Henry, the one we watch where the same, he wakes up and, Ooh, we're going to cut your dick off.

No, no comedy, whatever. And the rugby refs always have a camera on them these days.

Sidey: Yeah. Body cam. Yeah,

Cris: the, the body cam and another

Reegs: Oh, there was a movie called Body Cam, which was from a policeman's body cam

Cris: Yeah, that. And also one Guimaraes in a tournament in America last summer. For three games in a row, he wore a body cam and on average, the time he had until he was closed down and being tackled was less than 1.

5 seconds in a friendly game in America.

which

obviously he hasn't

Reegs: seconds are in the head,

Cris: which he hasn't tried the walking football and my nomination obviously Prodigy.

Reegs: Yeah,

Sidey: Okay. My nomination was a toss up. I was going to go with the shining Danny Torrance on his

little tricycle go around but I'm gonna go for Buffalo Bill with his night vision goggles at the end of Silence of the Lambs and he's stalking Clary Starling.

She's going around. Can't see what the going on. It's yeah. Very good.

Reegs: He reaches out and plays with her

Dan: her hair. Where's the where's the impression? Please. hopeful,

It's too fucking

and I am

Reegs: I am gonna go with evil Dead Sam Remy. They achieved that effect that has been mimicked many times of something menacing racing through the wood with a plank, a plank of wood, and two people running. And a camera, and they tilted it,

Sidey: around they and created

Cris: please do.

Dan: was just about to say, let's have yours out there

Sidey: Dead and Evil Dead 2. The remake of Maniac filmed entirely from point of view. It's very grimy recommend it if you want to watch something properly nasty.

Reegs: Elijah Woods, that's quite a good one that, yeah.

Sidey: Audience members vomited and fainted. Director took the reactions as a compliment, explaining we had a screening here in LA. Somebody passed out, which I pat myself on the back for.

So yeah, sounds sounds great. What'd he say? We're not glorifying the murder the audience gets to experience the murder like doing a murder for the first time we're certainly not condoning it but making a real statement about serial killers

Reegs: Mm, yeah, it is a very unsettling experience,

Dan: one.

Nice one.

Thanks preachy. Let's have some more

Sidey: We're gonna talk about the

edgelord of tomorrow. Yeah. I've been waiting to say that, since the noms got announced. It's the Tom Cruise time loop movie.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah. We did, we did some Timelit movies recently. We

Reegs: We did a whole sequence of them, and I just wanted to watch this movie again because I really liked

Sidey: I hadn't seen it

before.

Reegs: No, I've

Cris: seen it before

Reegs: Oh, right,

Dan: Well, it's like Groundhog Day, but with action.

Sidey: Satisfaction, yeah. It's

Reegs: It's sort of Groundhog Day, a bit Starship Troopers, a bit Matrix y in some ways, so What the fuck?

Sidey: fuck? I

Reegs: Okay, fair enough.

Dan: I simply stood up, Simon.

Cris: show dressed as a bear.

Dan: Well, yeah, I've got the bear suit on.

Sidey: on. My perception of it, because I'd only seen the poster and a bit of, sort of,

It was like a military thing with Tom Hanks, Tom, Tom Cruz. I wouldn't, I, that would have been why I wouldn't have watched it. But it's not like when you, when you actually start watching it, he's he's a military man, but a sort of

Dan: He's marketing.

Sidey: he's a PR guy.

He's there to promote the war effort against the

Reegs: Yeah, so we, because we get like a little bit of backstory, straight away the Mimics have arrived on Earth, they came via comets, they repurpose some actual footage, don't they?

That famous shot of the

Sidey: Yeah, that's

Reegs: landed in Russia, Moscow, yeah and it becomes part of this, and yeah, so they

Sidey: So mainland Europe has been overtaken by these mimics. Yes. But the,

Reegs: But the the, the world forces, the unified, unified defense force and whatever it is they have had a crucial victory at Verdun and now they're massing forces for this operation downfall, which obviously would have been the name of what was that the name of the proposed invasion of Japan wasn't

Sidey: Right.

Reegs: Anyway. So yeah, they've got this operation planned. And.

Major William Cage, Tom Cruise is trying to sell it to the nation, enlist, and all that sort of stuff.

Sidey: Yeah. And they've got this kind of armor, this exco exoskeleton thing that, that has helped them sort of gain an advantage in the battles.

And one of the key battles has been and what they're trying to spin is that

Emily Blunt's character had single handedly killed hundreds plus of these mimics. By virtue of having this armor on and he's giving it the big push. And then so he is summoned then to see the general,

Dan: Brendan

Sidey: Brendan Gleeson's character.

And he says, look, we need to really like up the ante on this. So you're going to go on the front line.

Reegs: He's like gonna be some like puff piece, rah rah thing on the beaches, gonna capture acts of valor or

Sidey: like, thanks for the offer, but I think I'll decline. It's like, Nope. Yeah. Well,

Reegs: Turing and Framing in their way, so

Sidey: His company went bust.

Reegs: you realise trained for the front line, but then again, he's out there selling the war effort.

So are you good enough to die for your country? Like all the other men that you asked him to anyway, that may be the journey that cage goes under this movie. Who knows? So, yeah, he, he, he eventually has to, he, he, he blackmails Gleeson into like saying, Oh, you know, it would be negative.

Dan: Well, he tries to he says, you know, I've got a million people A day joining up because of me millions of people have joined up because of me Do you think if this goes south this operation? They're going to appreciate You that it was your fault for doing it because they've listened to me say this I could make him listen to me say it's your fault and he goes all right yeah he plays along and then he says yeah arrest this guy he sends him down and he wakes up on like uh yeah

Reegs: Wait, is that Heathrow?

Yeah. He's at Heathrow on a bag of On a bag

Dan: of

Reegs: a bank of bags.

Sidey: We're gonna see that bit. Yeah, a fair few times.

Cris: no, he tries to run in the taser, you know? Yeah. And that's when, that's why he wakes up. He's

Dan: he wakes

Sidey: getting called a maggot

Dan: with the Yeah. Get up. Maggot. And you hear this a lot because that is the beginning of the loop. That is the groundhog day.

Reegs: Yeah, we'll come back to that. Yeah. And he's taken he's given the first of the many times he'll be told about battle being, what is it? The, where, where your true, What is it he says to him about battle the great redeemer, the fiery crucible in which the only true heroes are forged.

And it's from Hudson, what's his name? Bill

Sidey: Bill Paxton.

is

Reegs: Yeah. And he's the drill sergeant who will not listen to cage. Throughout this, you, you know, straight away, doesn't really understand what's going on. Tries to, you know,

Dan: he's heard it all before. He is heard everything, he's got his orders. He will not deviate from

Sidey: them.

So he's gonna, he's gonna meet the rest of the crew

Reegs: J Squad,

Sidey: to them there's all kinds of hijinks going on, but we're gonna get to meet a whole bunch of

times.

And so we're kind of like thrown into

Dan: kind of like thrown into the battle there. Well he's, he's

Reegs: well, he's, he's, he's handicapped a because they, he's, he's put in this exo suit.

He's not, he has no idea how it works. He doesn't know how to take the safety off. And then before long, he's like flying above a battlefield about to be dropped into like saving private Ryan type thing, but with exo suits and aliens.

Sidey: He sees some of J Squad get obliterated immediately.

the

Reegs: has the thing lands on him.

Yeah, just a

Sidey: The landing craft just

Dan: Well, even before that, because the plane

explodes,

Reegs: Yeah

Sidey: yeah. So there's loads of people who don't even make it down to the front line. And then he gets so far into it and he is wounded and very quickly killed.

Reegs: Yeah, he manages to grab a mine, he'd seen another combatant have one and he destroys this like strange looking, slightly different looking alien, blows it up and it sort of all goes weird and the alien's blue blood falls on him. So that's going to be the thing that's going to start the loop for Tom Cruise

Dan: Tom Cruise.

Reegs: up back again at Heathrow.

Sidey: he's never seen Groundhog

Reegs: he's never seen Groundhog Day, so he still doesn't know what's going on.

Sidey: know what's going on.

Go through this all again. And this time he's sort of Knows a little bit about who he's going to meet, but still, it's all very confusing for him. Yes,

Reegs: who he's going to meet, but still it's all very confusing for him. Because

Sidey: Because he

says it a few times, this is going to sound like, Crazy talk and they're like, yeah, no shit so we get probably I don't know half a dozen or so times of him being

Reegs: Yeah. He

Sidey: a little bit further

He

Reegs: sees the full metal bitch on the beach.

Right. So he realizes quite quickly that's his first objective to get to her. Yeah. And so there are a few attempts. He tries to save the guy and ends up getting squished himself. He runs to go and see her and ends up getting hit by a car. There's like quite some funny bits. And if he eventually does get to see her and when she realizes.

He kind of rescues her. You don't know what attempt this is now, but by this point, he's kind of really starting to be quite proficient. He can save people easily on the battlefield. When he goes in to rescue her, he's talking to her and he's like shooting behind himself because he knows that somebody's coming and that sort of thing.

So she says pretty quickly, she realizes what's going on and gets herself killed just before she says, come and find me, because she obviously

Sidey: Yeah. Next time you wake up, come and find me. Yeah. Yeah. And so he's like fuck she knows the stuff that I

Reegs: know,

Sidey: know

Reegs: And it gets to the best bit where he just tries to rush through the whole thing.

He's like, yep. Pleased to meet you. Yeah. Yeah. My boots go here. Do they? Like, and he just puts his stuff up and he tries to go off and he starts trying to, you know, now he's got different objectives not to get on the beach and do that stuff. He now knows earlier in the day. He needs to go and find her Emily Blunt's character.

What is her name? Rita.

Cris: or

something like that. Rita. Rita, definitely.

Reegs: She's got, she carries a helicopter blade, like a giant sword, into battle, and she's pretty cool as well. So anyway, he goes off

Dan: out what that was until you just said it

Reegs: Yeah, it's cool, isn't it?

Sidey: So she explains to him what's going on, is that the bloods of

Cris: Alpha.

Reegs: Yep. That

Sidey: Must have got onto you and combined itself with you. And that is,

Reegs: They're all part of a super organism. There's

Sidey: An omega. There's

Reegs: these drone things. And then one in every 6 million drones is this alpha thing. And the alpha thing is what can sets the time back to the Amiga thing.

That's like there's one of that control, like a hive mind that kind of controls everything. So the reason they've been able to do stuff, they let the allies, they'll figure this out. Eventually, they let the allies have a false victory at Verdun. So they would put everything into downfall. And then they can

Sidey: just wipe them out,

Reegs: Wipe out humanity in one big thing because every time, anytime humanity got the edge, they could just reset

Sidey: it.

Yeah. So she explained that she had this ability to reset if something went wrong, but

she says what you got to do is let yourself die. You cannot be revived And she made the mistake of being Rescued and having a blood transfusion and as soon as that happened then she lost the ability to reset the time so she explains to him very explicitly and you're you know This is going to crop up later in the movie.

Yeah. So then we just get loads of iterations of the day

Reegs: They're trying to get further. Part of the experience of connecting with the hive mind, you get visions and he starts to see visions of a dam that they work out is in Germany.

He also has a training up sequence that's quite funny because he's like, he doesn't want to be killed. He's tired of being killed. So he's like, no, I'll keep going. So like you've got two broken legs, like

Sidey: bang

Reegs: bang, bang, killed a lot in a training montage. So yeah, they go to the dam and he. There's a bit just before they get to the dam, isn't it?

That you realize has happened many, many times before, although it's the first time that you see it. It's where they go and find the helicopter in

Cris: Yeah, the French trip.

Reegs: and they take just a moment to get to know each other. They have softened over the time because of their shared experience. She's talked to obviously of a love that she had over her.

Cris: Hendrick.

Reegs: yeah, Hendrick. And he's obviously tried to seduce her and she finds out basically that. There's a point where she never makes it past so,

Sidey: he says the only, only I go past this bit, so it's to stay here for, for a while.

Reegs: They're falling

Dan: she's such a fighter, she doesn't want that to happen. She's just determined to go and Take the battle right to the end Even, you know, With that knowledge that she's not going to get any further so she's still On that occasion takes off in the airplane and ends up dying just like she did every other time

Reegs: Well, she forces the issue, doesn't she really? Yeah. And then I think, is that where we get a couple of loops of him just basically being a killing machine, like getting drunk or something and being on, gimme an extra battery and five clips or whatever.

And and eventually we see him going to the dam and we think that's kind of, it feels like there's gonna be the, that's supposed to be the end of the movie, but we still got half an hour, 40 minutes to go. And when he gets there, he does.

Sidey: It's not there,

Reegs: a trap.

Cris: it's a trap, basically.

Reegs: dam.

Dan: they wanted was his

Reegs: Well, they want his blood so they can

Dan: Well they want his blood so they can then hone down on where this weak point because they understand that somebody is also able to tap into this ability to reset the day and they've lost some of that ability as they did when she had it so

Reegs: Cruz drowns himself, he has to drown himself because he realizes he's been trapped, doesn't he?

It was pretty horrible.

Sidey: Yeah, that'd be probably the worst way to go out of all of them But he yeah, he does that and there's another guy with them an engineer sort of dude who's been creating something like a homing kind of

Reegs: Yeah, It can reverse engineer his connection to the Omega

Sidey: And so there's another sequence where they're being chased and what have you and he stabs this thing, it has to go into his body and his eyes go black and he's able to visualize and he is able then to see where the real Omega thing is and it's under the Louvre,

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: down a crevice

Dan: And it's a hell of a ride getting there, because they

have to

Reegs: to Well also at this point hasn't he he's lost the power because he

Sidey: Not

quite yet, it's when they get, they get Um Well once he,

Cris: once he put that thing in he started bleeding out. And he's on his way out, and then he ends up, they both end up in hospital

Sidey: Oh, okay, yeah. He comes to, and the first thing he sees is the bag of blood on the transfusion

Reegs: Yeah, so it's the first time the loop hasn't restarted.

He's in the hospital and so he knows he's got to get to the Louvre and he's only got one shot at this. There's not, so he convinces J squad to come with him by sort of telling them

Sidey: all have to

Reegs: things that only he could know about themselves. And,

Sidey: but he'd done, I'm sure he'd done that before and they hadn't believed him.

Yeah. This time they do. But yeah, they go and

Reegs: and we didn't talk about the whole bit where they go to see Brigham

Cris: again. Yeah, yeah. When he gets the

Reegs: when he gets the device the first time. I, I'm just trying to remember whether Brigham gets any comeuppance. It, it, yeah. No, he doesn't, does he?

Sidey: No. he

just gets to announce the victory at the end.

But yeah, they do go like this, like really hideous war zone one by one. There's loads of heroic acts where J squad kind of stay behind to, you know, take down some of the aliens.

Reegs: And I still think the special effects hold up pretty well. The power suits look really cool and,

Dan: the aliens are kind of venom looking thing, aren't they? They're

Sidey: They're very kinetic. You don't get to very rarely get to see it like a proper

Dan: like seaweed or something.

Sidey: where you can really look at them and go, okay, that's what they look like

Cris: The alphas, the alphas are the only ones that really you can see because they actually have a head.

Sidey: They scream

Cris: then like a main kind of looking thing.

But the rest of them are more just like an octopus without the head. Just with the tentacles,

Reegs: like the sentinels in the matrix a

Sidey: right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was getting that vibe this bit at the end.

Dan: like just

Sidey: So they have to, various of the crew get sacrificed and you know, like I say, do heroic stuff to sort of.

Staved them off for a little while. They're in this big Aircraft carry thing, but they don't need it to take off. They just needed to plow through the war zone Eventually, it goes through a kind of oh, it's the Arc de Triomphe, isn't it?

Reegs: Yes,

Sidey: and

crashes into the Louvre

And

she

runs they have a chat and she's I wish I could have known you better, you know, blah blah blah and she runs off to basically sacrifice herself and let him do

it's

Cris: the Alpha follows her.

It's

Sidey: got

Dan: Yeah, she's the ba, she's the bait. So she runs off and, and Cruise has to not just like go down a few flights. He's gotta swim. He's gotta swim a long way

Sidey: I think they both know that they're gonna die. I mean, he's got grenades.

Reegs: Yeah, they all know

Cris: She does say it, that none of us makes it out alive or

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty clear

Dan: Yeah. And they share a kiss.

Reegs: do

Dan: And he dives down while this thing is clearly going to get him doesn't get him.

Sidey: him.

I know, it does seem a million times faster

Dan: yeah, and it's not that far. He's gone, but it doesn't quite catch him in time. Or it

Cris: He's got the belt with the

Sidey: He's struggling to set them off.

Dan: he, he drops it and you think, Oh, no.

But then the pins,

Reegs: He's got the pins in his hand,

Sidey: it falls into like one little crack.

Because it's a sphere, right? It's a great big sphere that's kind of pulsating or whatever. And it, the grenade belt just falls into the hole and is absorbed by it. And then he turns around and drops the pins out and it blows up.

Dan: which resets

Reegs: To the very beginning of the movie the first shot of cage in the helicopter going to see Brigham

That's when it would be timeline wise But at this point they announced basically it's kind of like Pucci went back to his home planet isn't is like suddenly

Sidey: everyone's dead. Well, because

Reegs: Well because the Omega thing has been killed

Sidey: Omega thing's

Cris: a massive powersurge in

Sidey: the muscle power surge in Paris.

Dan: Yeah, well he

Reegs: Who? Cruz? Yeah, Cruz knew.

Yeah. Yeah.

Dan: was only on one life. Yeah. He did it all on that last life, didn't he?

Sidey: So it resets from there and

Reegs: she doesn't know. She doesn't know. 'cause she just fixes him that look that she's, although I did quite like this bit because when he walks in. They give him the respect that a major would get on that Heathrow training base, but at this point he's earned it.

So like, everybody's saluting him and stuff, and you're with him like, yeah, okay, you fucking earned this,

Sidey: Yeah, and she's a badass, she just looks at him and goes, What do you want? Or something like that.

Reegs: Yeah, and then it sort of subverts traditional romantic narratives because usually persistence equals love. And in this one He's not rewarded for his persistence. And the song at the end is literally like, I need to know now.

Will You Love Me again? Is the song like, so he's got a, it's like a little bit of a little twist on the sort of

Dan: Yeah, she she Always in my mind felt like she had she was still getting over the other guy like And he wasn't ever really You know, they're bigger fish to fry than their

Sidey: Yeah, there was no time for Or like, you know, like in Terminator when they fuck, you're like, there's no time for that.

Dan: But Cruz was looking good. And I thought, actually, he really, these films suit him. He's just brilliant in all

Reegs: different moments. He plays against type in this one, which is what's really good, because he's a

Sidey: cusser at the start and it takes him a while to build, to come into the really heroic

Dan: full

Reegs: he gets traditional cruise mode by the end of the movie that you've seen kind of a million times before. But he starts with something really different for Tom Cruise and that's what's really fun.

Dan: He's, he's got range, you know, he's, he's don't look up, I think was one that we did as well, that Tom Cruises,

Reegs: Is he in that? He's

Sidey: No.

Reegs: Mr. Caprio was in that.

Dan: but doesn't he have a, film am I thinking of where he

Sidey: different one, I

Dan: mad scientist

Sidey: Not this one, I

Dan: No? Okay. You're

Cris: of Tropic Thunder.

He wasn't that one.

Reegs: But

Sidey: reason we're saying that is because we were debating offline. Yes. If, if

Dan: We're Tom

Sidey: Cruise movie before we have.

Reegs: So, I really like this movie, and they keep talking about a sequel to it, which I would really like to

Sidey: I think Leave it where it is.

Reegs: I don't know, I just, I

Dan: never leave anything where it is these days.

Sidey: It's directed by Doug Lyman. Leman. Yeah. How are we saying that?

Reegs: Lyman? Lyman, I

Dan: it wasn't that good. You should leave it where it is.

Reegs: It was a bit of a flop though, wasn't it? Really? Unfortunately, floppy floppy considering like virtually everybody I know who's seen this enjoyed it. Chris hated

it.

Cris: the, this is what I was gonna say. I, I read a little bit about it. It, it is got a cult following and whoever seen it, everybody kind of seems to agree that it's actually quite a good movie, but 70 million, like you said, kind of flopped.

Sidey: I don't know. I don't know. 170 million budget and made

Reegs: It's just about

Dan: 200 mil,

Sidey: There's a lot of money spent on marketing and

Cris: It's a big, it's a big money though, it's just, you know, and,

Sidey: budget.

Dan: But

I like this. I did.

Sidey: I really enjoyed it.

Cris: I, I was pleasantly surprised because I thought it was going to be shockingly

Dan: and

Sidey: you get

Reegs: it's really blackly funny in the first

Cris: I would I would say though, the MAGA thing was really

annoying at

Sidey: infinite time loop.

here

we go again, another thing that I have to watch the same thing, but they get around that enough

Cris: They do get around it enough, but when you say like, and even he's waking up and he's

Sidey: yeah, you're sharing his frustration, having to do it again and again and again, and they don't always do it.

Yeah,

Dan: short clips sometimes and they will wake him up at different parts of the time. So you know that you're, you know, Starting again, but it might be in a different part where like he's walking him through

Reegs: Well, also they changed the setting. That's something that's, you know, once he, once he realizes like the objective is not getting off the beach, it's something else.

And then I actually think they, they kind of fucked the ending because they have. The fake out for the it's a trap and then they basically have the same thing again you know go somewhere else and break in so that I kind of they had some different alternate endings if you're interested at what they yeah Christopher mcquarrie the guy who wrote this he did the usual suspects.

He wanted to leave crews back on the helicopter that we saw him at the beginning, wondering if the movie ever happened at all. And the other one was to have like a real downer ending where the blood goes back just as you think he's won on an alpha, it like drips off or something. And they, they,

Sidey: Now you have

Reegs: they get, they grab the time back as the last element of the

Sidey: No, that would not be cool

I know I enjoyed it I I don't need to see another time loop movie for a little while because we've seen A few but this is a good this is a good good version

Dan: and this action type thing where he's to relive the same day. The alien I kind of like this monster. It was you know, really You Special effects wise, just frightening. I was gonna say like, you know, it's just this kind of thing that no human would ever have a chance against unless

Sidey: Unless you're Tom Cruise. Unless

Cruise.

Yeah, strong recommend.

Dan: I'd go along with that.

Reegs: Strong recommend, yeah,

Cris: Very, yeah, yeah, I agree.

Sidey: Rugrats. One of the animated shows that I hated the absolute

Reegs: it.

Sidey: loathed this when I was a kid. Oh,

Dan: I really like this when I was a kid. Yeah.

Sidey: Oh, I hated it. Hated it that it was about little babies. Hated the animation style. Fucking hated everything about

Dan: Always

Reegs: if things have changed this time round. Oh okay,

Sidey: Oh,

Dan: Okay, right so

Sidey: We watched Series 1.

Reegs: Episode

Sidey: Jamie's wiener or something.

Reegs: Tommy. or Tommy, the link

Dan: the link you sent me went to episode one.

Sidey: it didn't.

Reegs: It does, but you can change it,

Sidey: it. Yeah, it had a drop down and you just went to 10. Not possible.

Dan: possible.

Sidey: It goes up to 11. Yeah, so we watched this one.

And to be honest, it's probably the first time I've watched a full episode, although it's 23 minutes and it's divided into two episodes. So we watched one out of the two. Fifty percent.

Reegs: And I don't know if there's ongoing storylines,

Dan: not

Sidey: it's usually set in Tommy?

Reegs: Yes.

Sidey: baby's normally set there.

There are like two twins,

Reegs: They're

friends,

Sidey: that, yeah, they're all, they're all pals and what have you.

Reegs: Chucky the redheaded sort of

Dan: They're all the little babies that hang out together at like, play

Reegs: Play. What about the theme tune just before we Do you like that? I kind of, duh

Sidey: that I'm, you know, a scholar, did you see who did the music?

Reegs: I didn't, but I liked it This time

Sidey: Mark Mothersbaugh.

Reegs: Right. We've,

Sidey: That name's cropped up before on the pod because he is the front man of a band that I really

Reegs: Go on.

Sidey: Devo.

Reegs: Ah! Right, Yeah, Okay.

Sidey: and he also voices a character in it. Not in this episode, but he does voice a

Reegs: could we put the music in then? Oh.

Sidey: No. And I think it does all the sound because it is quite a lot of sound in it because when I saw that name I was like, okay, i'll listen out for it and it's kind of zany let's just suppose zevo Devo kind of are

Reegs: And I did remember, this is why I did POV week, I did remember the intro theme and it specifically having a lot of it from the perspective of Tommy.

He sees himself in the mirror and And there's a cat robot thing, and then at the end of it he squirts some milk into you! You!

Sidey: It's just like a facial.

Reegs: Yeah, he gives you a facial. Exactly,

Sidey: and that bottle is very apt because this episode is where they take him to the Dentist for his first dental appointment. He's got one tooth and the dentist who's constantly preening his own teeth is Warning them that if he he needs to be weaned because if he carries on the bottle and

Reegs: He's the worst kind of dentist, because he gives them all shit about their teeth, right? He

Sidey: Yeah overbite or something he says about

Reegs: him a load of shit, and the baby a load of shit, and then on the way out, exactly, you're gonna get bad teeth if you have the bottle, gotta wean

Sidey: Yeah, he's dead young. It's like barely even a year old. If that, I think. And so the mother gets really paranoid about that and that is then like the crux of the story is them just depriving the kids and the kid fucking screaming and crying.

Reegs: Yeah, basically, I mean, he has nightmares about a giant tippy cup that haunts him. And he's sort of in a trippy place where there's bottles everywhere and then they're

Sidey: It reminded me of a scarecrow thing out of like DC universe.

Reegs: Yeah,

Dan: Universe.

Reegs: he's had a fear toxin.

Dan: I actually remember seeing this episode back when I was a kid because it was quite funny. Weird all those those bottles and everything and it's not that they they normally drew on some kind of big fears or in children or

Sidey: Yeah, this

Reegs: was, this was exactly that. This was exactly that. This was, you know, a key to parenting as well. Anyway, because they do, basically at the end of it, they all come to the conclusion that it's not right to

deny this baby, so they're going to It's

Sidey: all come to the conclusion that it's not right deny this baby. Yeah,

Reegs: It's

not just that though, is it? Because a big theme that I noticed watching it this time round is like, conflicting advice. They have a book that they go to, Lipsvitz.

But you know what it's like when you're a parent, like, you can get literally anybody to tell you anything that you should be doing. You should be weaning him, you shouldn't be weaning him, you should be giving him food, you shouldn't

Sidey: Oh, my one did this. Bah, bah, bah. You

Reegs: should be on a routine.

You should be doing that. And it's like right in here all the times. That's what I know. I probably hated it because it was probably too much. It went right over my head when I was a kid, but yeah. So anyway, they all come to the conclusion to they sneak into it. They, they decide it's a bit weird actually, because they decide not to give him the bottle and then they all secretly want to give him one and get up in the middle of the night to give him a bottle.

Sidey: Yeah and in the end Tommy reaches behind his pillow

Reegs: reach

Sidey: and fishes out a bottle has it.

Reegs: The

Dan: the animation

is really kind of sketchy.

Sidey: Yeah, I

hated it as a kid, but I quite liked it

this time. around.

Dan: it's

clever. And as I remember the dentist was kind of, Kind of weird himself.

Sidey: He looks disgusting. He's, he's the one that's supposed to have perfect teeth, but they're enormous. They were like oversized and he's constantly like sitting there like preening his teeth.

Reegs: We got a shot in the dentist from Tommy's mouth as well. So for more POV

Dan: There you go.

Reegs: Yeah, we've had some good POV this

Dan: and did you like this then this time

Reegs: I did, yeah. I realized this was a really clever program that I had, but it was lost on me as a

Sidey: yeah. exactly the same.

Dan: Right,

well, you know, it might be something that we can, we can bring into young parenting because it's got some good messages for the kids. I always enjoyed it actually.

Yeah we'd sit down and watch this. And I can't remember the tune. Did it go something like this?

Sidey: No.

I'd already said no once.

Dan: Well, nevermind, but I enjoyed it anyway.

Reegs: I dunno, try it one more time.

Sidey: Strong recommend.

Reegs: recommend. And yeah,

Sidey: we're hoping to have a guest on me next week. Yeah. If we can make that work. I think they like the guest in question has signaled their

Reegs: But they've booked out their

Dan: Availability. So

Sidey: It's more a question of can we make the technology work?

Dan: as

Sidey: gonna, we're gonna do our very best.

Dan: we're going to make it happen. So we've got some noms.

Sidey: Yeah, it's gonna be Peregrine Falcon and Mastic Man or something.

Cris: Midas

Man

Dan: Midas Man,

Reegs: Miss Peregrine's

home foot really

Cris: For

gifted children or something like that.

Sidey: Yeah, so if you can work out the connection between those two, you might be able to figure out who we're going to be chatting to. So that's good. All that remains though, is to say Sidey signing out.

Cris: decided to hang

Reegs: Riggs has left the building.

Dan: Dan's gone.