Civil War & Beast Games

Civil War

Reegs: Welcome to Bad Dad's Film Review, the podcast that is to movie reviews as a whoopee cushion is to a eulogy. If you're like me and the only thing faster than the rate at which you're losing brain cells is your driving, you'll be delighted that this week we're talking about the top five speeding tickets.

And for those who prefer a more stationary form of rebellion, we'll throw in a mention of parking tickets too. Our review this week is Alex Garland's reflection of America's increasingly bitter, polarised and heavily armed political environment, taken to a worst case scenario in the, not really about what you think it's going to be about film, Civil War.

And we finish things off by taking a peek at dead eyed, Richter's grinned YouTuber Mr. Beast as he brings us Beast Games, in which a thousand people degrade, or betray themselves for a chance at a payday, a spectacle of human misery arranged purely for our entertainment. All that's left to do is introduce the dad starting with Dan.

His first holiday was to Pangea and his Hotmail account is older than the rest of us combined. There's also Sidey who this week has been helping manage an under 12s football team. You did tell me off air earlier that the hardest part was substitutions so that all the players can get a go.

Isn't it? Didn't you say pulling off a kid was the hardest thing

Sidey: was the hardest thing to

Reegs: Yeah. And finally there's me, Riggs. Hello.

Sidey: Hello.

Dan: Hi. Hi, Reegs. Watching anything this week? Outside the homework?

Reegs: you know what the world record for stacking watermelons on top of each other

Dan: on top of each other is? I think it's 24?

Sidey: In Japan can't you get rectangular watermelons?

Reegs: don't know if that's allowed. I didn't check this.

Sidey: I'll say eight.

Reegs: Four? The world record is four. It's like the hats thing, isn't

Dan: I've done 24.

Sidey: We could do that, couldn't we? Yeah.

Dan: What?

Sidey: Obviously not the

Dan: How long did I have to be there?

Reegs: I don't know. It's held by an Iranian man who seems to be some sort of watermelon stacking expert.

Dan: buy five watermelons

Sidey: we buy, I reckon

Dan: give this a go. Or

Reegs: break this record. Yeah,

Dan: to start with, maybe.

one and eat it.

Sidey: No, I hate watermelon.

Dan: Do you not?

Sidey: Oh, I hate it. Do you? Yeah. Oh, rancid.

bad.

No, not to me. It's the celery of the fruit

world.

Dan: celery of the fruit

Sidey: man, don't like

Dan: world. Well, tell us your main takeaway. What have you been

Reegs: years. Using a

Sidey: using a spoon.

Dan: I think mango was a really good one because you just cut it in mid, in the middle like, and then you work it.

yeah, Yeah, I know. I'm twisting my hands together. And then the stone comes out on one side and leaves you empty in the other. And you just scoop it out there and eat it like, and it looked really, really tasty. How'd you like mangoes?

Sidey: I'm into mango, yeah. Okay.

Dan: good. Okay, we're back on track.

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: Kiwis for you this week then?

Reegs: No, none for me really. Oh, I watched the first episode of Squid Games actually, of the second season.

Dan: I've never seen

Reegs: mean, I haven't seen

any of

Dan: No, no,

I'm, you know, I'm not really into those those underwater things.

Reegs: things. I

Sidey: I wasn't very well really, so, I spent a lot of time going to bed early and then watching a lot of The Wire while I was lying there.

Because I didn't mind if I fell asleep, having seen it before, so I did watch quite a

Dan: Security in that.

Sidey: Yeah, what kind

Reegs: of nut well were you?

Sidey: A bit, like, throat aids and stuff. But back on track now. Yeah,

Dan: Okay. Did that just cover the weekend? Is it, was it just one of those ones where?

Sidey: those ones? Like Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday

Reegs: Blimey,

Dan: On the best of it. In the best of the week.

Sidey: Not like full blown, but not great either. So anyway so yeah, the wire and stuff. Should we, we could go talk about speeding tickets. Any particular reason Riggs?

Reegs: Yeah, I got one.

Sidey: Have you been punished yet? Yeah. What'd you get?

Ouch.

Dan: pound

Reegs: not that. It's the tailing off is not very nice.

Well, you get a caution, don't you get

Dan: caution?

Oh, it's on your license. It's on your record.

Reegs: It's a verbal, no, it's a

Dan: But if you're, if you're going like 80 through a fucking like

Sidey: No, this is crime of the century,

Dan: Yeah, school crossing, you know.

Sidey: What was it, 20 something into 15?

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: the 15th? 29.

in the 15th.

Reegs: No.

Dan: Really bad though, really bad.

I mean, is that what

Sidey: I know the road because it's near my gaff, and I go up there a lot. And normally people,

Reegs: up there. Is it coming down? It's, I don't this, but

Sidey: Wait, you dominated it as a

Reegs: Yeah. Oh yeah, that's true. That's true.

Sidey: They

Dan: never been done for a speeding ticket.

Reegs: Have

Sidey: I've never been done either. And a lot of the times there's a WhatsApp group where people post where all the police are doing them. And also people, if you're driving that way, people will flash to say there's a policeman there.

And I always flash that spot. If I see someone coming and it's like, no, you should let, you should let them get fined because you know, fuck off. What

Reegs: don't want to fuck off. In

Dan: there's now In Jersey, at the beginning of Victoria Avenue A cardboard cutout,

policeman

Reegs: cutout. I know

Sidey: everyone now knows it's a cardboard cutout,

Reegs: cardboard cutout.

Sidey: Well, no, didn't it? Yeah.

Dan: I, I just wonder if it, it means that's a warning That they're going to be doing this

Reegs: be

Dan: your, temperature up the road there.

Reegs: Well, there was a massive increase in drink driving and in Jersey.

And when, you know, to be fair, right. The island has got a very recent real tragedy with that, you know, story of drinking and speeding.

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah,

Reegs: yeah, we should all be more speed aware, especially you

Sidey: right? Especially you, Riggs. one. Uh,

Reegs: When it just, yeah. So I am prepared to be very lenient.

Sidey: also

Dan: Speed with Sandra Bullock, who was also featuring in our midweek Demolition Man and Keanu in what was a really low budget high thrill surprise film at the time that. I think just took everybody's surprise.

I don't know if this was before Demolition Man. Was it

Reegs: Yeah, I think it was also 1993

Dan: was in and around that time, so we talked about whether which film Sandra Bullock made her debut in,

Sidey: I looked up and she had way more before Demolition Man,

did.

Dan: Was Speed one of them?

Reegs: probably

Dan: Probably was and if anybody's not seen this and I'm talking to all the millennials out there, because I imagine everybody our

Sidey: what is it about?

Dan: it's about a bus that,

Sidey: that speed

Dan: down.

It, it's, I've, I think it's, who's the bad guy and is it Dennis Dennis Hopper, isn't it? He's strapped a bomb.

Sidey: hot shot.

Dan: Yeah, he's strapped a bomb to the bus. If it drops below 50 then it's gonna go off. Keanu's a passenger who realizes this, I think. I think she is the bus driver and they managed to save the day, spoiler.

But

Sidey: do they get a ticket

Dan: it's high high, high speed thrills. I'd imagine so. I think, I think there's certainly some very irate passengers and

Sidey: They might have been able to, I would imagine they'd be able to notify the local gendarmes

Dan: at appeal this

Sidey: we can't be pulled over.

Dan: They might be able to appeal this one.

Sidey: Homer Simpson's description of it is my favourite.

The movie about a bus whose speed went above 50 and if it's speed dropped below 50 and he keeps saying speed and then he goes, I think it was called the bus that couldn't slow down.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. So that's my one.

Reegs: Yeah. Nice. Well, liar, liar has a speeding ticket slash parking ticket in the same scene.

It's the, it is the movie where Jim Ket has got a great concept. His kid wishes, wishes that his lawyer father could. Not tell a lie for 24 hours and by the magic of Hollywood, it happens. And Jim Carrey gets him into a lot of trouble at work with his clients. Cause he's really, really despicable.

He has horrible clients that he covers for in court. Amanda Donahoe's massive rack.

And he's not very, you know, he constantly makes promises to his kid that he doesn't meet and all that sort of thing. He's a shitty deadbeat dad and by the end of it, he'll learn not to be when he has to tell the truth for this 24 hours or whatever.

And part of it is he's pulled over by the police and the guy says to him do you know what I pulled you over for? And it's like, oh, it depends how long you were following me for. He says, well, why don't we just take it from the top? And he just reels off this police car. Big list of

Sidey: the top?

Reegs: Yeah. . And he says, is that all?

And he says, no, I've got unpaid parking tickets. Opens up the, drawer of the glove box. Yeah. So La la that was probably the best one.

Sidey: I've got another Jim Carrey one. Yeah. Dumb and Dumber.

Reegs: Okay.

Sidey: Then they're, they're driving, and they're bombing it through, and the, that fucking crazy guy pulls, like, pulls them over.

Pull over!

Reegs: is it Tim Bleak Nelson?

Is that what I'm

Sidey: No, I don't think so. And he's, pull over, no, it's a sweater, but thanks for noticing!

Dan: bit quick

back

Sidey: Going a bit quick back there, weren't you boys? And then he notices the So he doesn't actually get around to giving them a ticket because he notices that they're drinking, or he thinks that they're drinking, and he's like, it's an offence to have open alcohol containers, but it's just what the bottles that they've been pissing in, and he takes a drink of one and then he tells them to fuck off after he's

Reegs: He makes that, like, noise. Yeah.

Sidey: yeah yeah, so I really like that one. Dumb and Dumber.

Dan: Well, I was just thinking of another one.

I can't remember if he gets a speeding ticket, but flight of the navigator. I'm fairly sure he pulls up with like some car who's speeding along. And then winds down his,

Reegs: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dan: he winds down his,

Reegs: he's ask, he doesn't, he ask for directions or

Dan: right. Yeah. Yeah. And then speeds off and they're like. hair is, is blasted back by just the, the sheer weight of force of wind.

That one always made me chuckle. That was a good one. That flight of the Navigator. There was a film after that, like it was a follow up on flight of the Navigator because I think the, the star of it had a bit of a tragic

Sidey: It troubled, didn't it, yeah. It

Dan: Past afterwards, but that was, that was quite. Touching actually sad times, it was certainly Like when I was a kid that firm

Reegs: I've got let's have a look. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. The scene is, I knew it was a crime, but I did it anyway. It's when he's speeding along the highway and he sees the cop. The cop tries to pull him over. And then he starts reeling off. Few people understand the psychology of a cop.

You don't pull over, it arouses contempt in the cop heart. So you make him chase you.

Dan: chase

Reegs: as you go down the As you go down the highway, he doesn't know what to make of you indicating to pull over and anyway Yeah, so he pulls over and has this weird interaction with a guy who eventually lets him off a speeding ticket And then two futuristic movies that did exactly the same thing were space balls if you remember when they break into the space balls prison to go and get princess vespa.

Do you remember that movie?

Sidey: Yeah,

Reegs: They've got the round headed guards and they're not allowed to park there because it's they get a parking ticket and two soldiers come along and they're abducted and they use those uniforms to break into the prison and the exact same thing happens in The Last Jedi. They do in fact get a parking ticket on Canto Bight Finn and centre of controversy but not much else character Rose.

They get arrested for parking their shuttlecraft on the beach so it's the same thing. Yeah.

In the unanimously loved Last Jedi.

Sidey: Yeah. Daniel Day Lewis Yeah. Had retired from acting, but he's come back and he was filming last year.

I think this was in a, it's a film directed by his son.

Reegs: Okay.

Sidey: Untitled as far as I'm aware. And not actually in the film, but on the set and they had all these 80s, it must be set in the 80s, vehicle prop cars and some like busy fucking traffic warden came and put parking tickets on all of them on the set for being parked illegally, even though they weren't real cars.

Nice,

Reegs: Nice. Well they get a bit of money for the council. Yeah,

Sidey: council. Yeah, Any more Dan?

Dan: Did, did you ever see a guy called Joe Lycett, the,

Sidey: great.

Reegs: Yeah, I had that on my list, yeah.

Sidey: of 10 cats.

Dan: Yeah, and he, he's,

Reegs: Hopefully Dothbutter no parsnips.

Sidey: to

Reegs: you read, have you listened to his audio book?

It's very funny.

Dan: Oh, no, I've not. No, but yeah, there is, there is a like a YouTube clip of him explaining how he got out of a parking fine. Which is

Sidey: I

Reegs: He asked for evidence,

Sidey: know what you mean about parsnips. Don't

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: for evidence. Because the original photo is just someone's written taxi rank on

Reegs: on his car. Yeah. So he sends, he sends back evidence that he's like, Oh, my car's on the moon. And he's just written the moon on the

Sidey: he's just written the moon.

And he just gets one bit of correspondence back at the end and says, We have cancelled your parking ticket.

Dan: And

there's that that Tommy Cooper gag as well, isn't there, where he goes Oh, I went to my car and somebody wrote parking fine. So I thought that was good

Reegs: Boogie Nights at the end of the very opening scene, we follow Little Bill, played by William H. Macy and he just passes Dirk. They don't even know each other at this point. They pass each other, but it's like, and as he follows him, he gets back to his car and he's got a parking ticket. It's just the sign of how his life

Sidey: life. Yeah

Reegs: completely wrong from that moment onwards.

And I have got Probably Oh, Homer always Kwik E Mart. I always think that would get him in trouble.

Sidey: get him in trouble. Yeah, there is also Homer versus New York.

Reegs: car in

Sidey: plaza and he needs a piss and the only toilet is right at the top of the skyscraper and he's waiting and waiting and waiting and eventually he can't wait any longer so he goes and as soon as he gets to the top and he looks out the window he can just see someone writing out a ticket and he

Reegs: writing out a ticket We could have got

Dan: We've got Die Hard as well, haven't we?

Sidey: haven't we? Yeah, so you've

Dan: Yeah, so you've got that that traffic plate and he rips up the ticket at the end after he

Reegs: Yeah, you've got

Dan: Yeah. You've gotta save an airport, kill a load of terrorists and yeah, that's all you had to do, Riggs.

You might got off that, that fine. But yeah, that's me pretty much find out.

Reegs: time. But yeah, that's me, pretty much. Find out. Yeah, why not?

Sidey: Why not?

Dan: nobody else is let's face it

Reegs: This time it's got not even got Matthew Broderick.

It's French Stewart is the hapless body horror cyborg French Stewart I don't really know who that is. But that is who it is I looked out today the body horror cyborg policeman and in this one French Claw has escaped your clawsomeness. Terrible CGI, weird editing very stupid movie, and also features a scene at the beginning of the film where Gadget arrests an elderly woman for driving three miles over the speed limit.

So, yeah.

Sidey: She must have been in a 20. Isn't that the rule? I think you get 10 percent leeway.

Reegs: You do. And me, myself and Irene has two parking related scenes. One where he crashes his car through a barbershop window. Another one where he beats a guy who's parked in a handicapped space. Yeah, and he beats off the car. Yeah, with a

dustbin.

Sidey: dustbin. And

Reegs: some good parking,

Sidey: more parking.

Reegs: think Fast and

Sidey: They park it, so we'll have to do parking

Reegs: Then I'm just going

Sidey: get a

Reegs: nomination.

Sidey: speeding ticks but, you know, they

Reegs: Oh, yeah, that's

Sidey: caught, they're the family. Nicholas Angel and I can't remember Nick Frost character. But they're sitting by the side of the road and they do get off to I think they get called away. It's when the crash has happened and all the suspects are there and you know, it explains where it's never we don't say a road accident that implies that there was no one to blame.

He says them waiting doing the speed check in that one hot fuzz.

Reegs: there must have been loads of movies where they have, like, a speed gun or whatever, because

Sidey: Well,

you think so, but I don't know, it's hard. It's a hard topic, this one.

Dan: Pretty tough. i'm gonna die hard too

Sidey: Okay, nice.

Reegs: I am gonna go with a deleted scene from Ghostbusters. Which has a cop giving Ecto 1 a parking ticket outside the Sedgwick Hotel.

it bursts into flame. taking out the movie, that. But I watched that clip today, that was pretty

Sidey: pretty cool. Nice. And we need two

Reegs: Yeah. Speeding or parking, your choice.

Dan: Let's go for it You chose this, didn't you Riggs?

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: What made you choose this?

Reegs: Well, Saudi Hadder Hypnotically suggested it to me last week, but it had been on my radar for a little while. I'd seen a really cool trailer for this that made it look like it was going to be a bit of a different movie to what it really kind of was.

Well,

Dan: Well, my eyes rolled 'cause I thought, oh, fucking Captain America shit again. Like, you know, not that it was that shit and I quite enjoyed that film, but Civil War, that's where but it's not that this is different. Yeah.

Sidey: It was A24 at the gate, so that gives you some sort of hope that it's going to be decent.

And

Reegs: And it's Alex Garland.

Yeah. As well. So

Sidey: and director, I think.

Yes,

Dan: He did The Beach, didn't he? The Tesseract, he wrote and he's done a couple of other,

Reegs: well, he wrote 28 days later. And,

Sidey: and

Reegs: Devs and Annihilation and xMachina that we did for this

Sidey: this. strong pedigree, strong pedigree.

Reegs: And

Dan: he directed this as well.

Sidey: Yeah. he did, yeah.

Reegs: And it starts with the president played by Nick Offerman.

Sort of, you know, he's under siege from the sort of close ups and sweat on his face as he's kind of rehearsing a speech that he's about to give to the American population. And it handily fills in a little bit of backstory so that we know that there are some successionists, some US states that are seceding.

From the Constitution and going their own way in a number of different factions, three different factions, I think it was, wasn't it? But 19 states going off with three different factions, but primarily the Western forces which were the sort of Texans and Californians united against the government of America and the president under siege in the White House, about to give this big address talking of his

Sidey: Did you get a feeling of what president they might have been?

Reegs: It

was very difficult to tell he was wearing a red tie.

So,

Sidey: tell,

Reegs: yeah, and it's sort of big wiggy

Sidey: wearing a red

Reegs: Mm. Yes.

Dan: there was a lot of

Sidey: Nick Offerman,

Dan: Nick Offerman, he was in Parks and Recreation, wasn't he? He

Reegs: He was also

in devs, right? He was, and that was terrific in, I'd strongly so yeah, he's giving this address, talking about it, filling it in.

And then next, I think we're introduced to

Sidey: Yeah, we are. Yeah.

Reegs: What's her name, Kirsten Dunst, not a fan,

Sidey: No.

Dan: Ah, like her. Yeah,

Reegs: we can have this conversation again. And she is, I think there is like a civil demonstration slash riot in pursuit of water. There's a water truck there in the sort of heavily militarized police force pushing back some rioting people.

And then a guy runs in carrying. She clocks,

Sidey: another photographer

there, doesn't

Reegs: Yes, Jessie, Kayleigh Spaney.

Sidey: Because she's a photographer, she's on the front line, she's getting all these shots, and she seems very kind of stoic about everything and she sees these guys just getting pummeled, and she sees this young girl also taking photos, and she's in the thick of it, and she gets whacked in the

Reegs: Oh yes, that's right. She gets whacked and actually she stops for a second Lee to pull her out and give her her yellow tabard to sort of protect her and mark her

Dan: she's clearly lots younger than,

Reegs: I thought she was about 12 or something at the beginning of this. I didn't realize she was like 23

Sidey: Yeah. She's a college graduate kind of age. Yeah. And. Then in the midst of all of

Reegs: who she is.

Sidey: she's she's well known.

Reegs: her as a famous photographer. She says, Oh, you took the Antifa massacre so filling in a little bit of backstory with just little tidbits of detail. And then, yeah, this is when suddenly a guy comes running

Sidey: get well, someone does run through the flag, but also we've seen a lady stand up with a backpack and it kind of goes slo mo with her and she walks in you think, Oh, hello.

And as Kirsten Dunst Lee is talking to the other girl. She gets her to just kneel because they hear a commotion and people are going to start running over towards them. So she kneels them down behind her. I think it was a police car, whatever it was. And just so happens that as they do that, this suicide explosion goes

Reegs: was more that she sort of knew what was happening as she heard the guy run and saw the flag and pulls them both

Sidey: Possibly.

Dan: Yeah, there's a little bit of experience

Reegs: there's, she, there's a big explosion and then straight away in the aftermath, it's one of those great scenes where the sound completely goes for fucking ages, by the way. And she gets up straight away, takes her camera out and starts taking photos of the aftermath. Because that is her job as we'll find out to, you know, she's passionate about documenting and recording.

Dan: And if nothing else, I think all the way through this film, you just see the the, the danger and the positions that journalists put themselves in to record the facts, the story, how they see it and and then allow, you know, they talk about it, how they will allow people to make their own conclusions from these factual photographs that they're taking.

Sidey: So she goes back to a, a sort of safe house hotel sort of thing.

Reegs: Yeah,

Sidey: Yeah, and

They're chatting about, they've got their kind of mentor fellow there,

Reegs: Yeah, and

Dan: Sammy.

Sidey: And it's like, what's next for you guys?

So we're gonna DC And it's like, all right, yeah, he's, no, we're actually going to dc. And he's like, well, what, you know, you know, they just fucking killed journalists on site. What the fuck? He's like, no, we're gonna interview the president.

She's going to photograph him, I'm going to interview him, and he's like, you're fucking crazy.

Reegs: Yeah. They're gonna get one quote before this big offensive that they, that have heard is gonna happen.

Yeah. July the fourth they're talking about is the day that it's gonna happen on the western forces are gonna take a besieged president, who is of course, like, you know, authorizing drone strikes on his own citizens

Dan: That's it. He's carpet bombing

Reegs: Mm.

Dan: his own people

Reegs: Who are out to get him though.

Dan: Yeah. I mean, it's a civil war.

Reegs: It is indeed.

Sidey: And while they're there though, they do see that Jesse rocks up and she's like, I'm, I haven't like followed you to stor you here, although I have and she wants to tag along and Leah's like, no fucking way.

No. Like, this is.

Reegs: Yeah, and we've already seen, I think, in the aftermath of that explosion, actually, we did see the cut to the hotel. We see loads of her, like, memories of

Sidey: Yeah, and

Reegs: well, and we get this cool, like, PTSD effect, basically, this, like, they call it chromatic aberration.

It's where, like, the, the image kind of goes a bit bluey reddy lines where, and, like, the, the waviness of it. And it's, like, to indicate her PTSD so that we see that she's got it,

Sidey: of the stuff she's seen is like so fucking

Reegs: guy, setting himself on fire

Sidey: tire around him and then just set on fire. You're like fucking

hell.

Dan: fucking hell.

It's so, like,

Sidey: you're She's now able, she's so like, I don't know, just beaten down by it all.

Reegs: Mm-hmm.

Sidey: And she says, we just, it's just up to us to take the photos and let other people ask questions.

Reegs: Exactly. We record it.

Sidey: it's not that she is desensitized, but the desensitized nurse has come at a cost of her own life. Psyche is just like completely fucked.

Dan: And it's other people's attitude to as well, because a few times they go, Oh, Lee, you're going to get this photograph. Oh, we know why you're there. And it's like, she's superhuman. And she doesn't have these kind of emotions going through that. Yeah, but I mean, I think other people kind of expect it of her as well, or she has been.

Through her own actions in the past and put herself in harm's way that she gets the job done.

Reegs: It's the only way they can cope. Right? To have this like mask of

Dan: Yeah. This macho kind of, yeah. We get the stuff done and we, we carry on. But the, yeah, you start to see the, the fragments and and little chips in obviously her own psychological wellbeing.

Yeah.

Sidey: She's already a bit put out by having to take

Dan: only to

Sidey: like, basically gonna

Reegs: Well, she's already a bit put out by having to take Sammy along 'cause she's like, basically you're gonna slow us down or get yourself killed.

Or both. Yeah. So yeah, so when, when she's there as well, Jessie, but it turns out fucking her colleague Joel had been basically trying to crack onto her the night before and had invited her to

Dan: And it promised it and she's saying, look, I've got like an old folks home and kindergarten in the back here. What the fuck? And there are good little kind of bits of humor and dark humor and gallows kind of humor. Throughout the film and it then begins a bit of a road trip, didn't it?

Reegs: You get little updates of where they are and how far they are away from Washington. I think eight, 900 miles at this point, and they need to refuel. So they go to a gas station and we find out just how much the currency has been devalued.

She offers the guy 300 and he laughs.

Sidey: I'll get you a

Reegs: get you a sandwich. And she's like, no, no Canadian. So, and suddenly really

Dan: suddenly suddenly worth something.

Yeah,

Reegs: but also you know, I didn't really know what was going to happen in this scene, Jesse is sort of wanders off down with this guy who's really menacing straight away with it who's got a gun down to a kind of car wash area and there are bodies hanging there and she's just She's never seen anything like it.

Yeah. Yeah. They're still alive. She's never seen anything like it. And then of course the guy says to her, should we kill him or not? It's up to you. We've been debating it for days. Like if we have to keep them or should I just beat them up a bit more and we'll make the

Dan: And they're already dripping blood from their eyes, ears, mouth anywhere else that will bleed.

They're looking really bad shape.

Reegs: knew him as well.

He knew the guy as well, didn't he?

Dan: Yeah, he said he went to my high school or something. And that's just how. broken this society has come and how far people have just began not trusting each other. I mean, it's, it's terrifying, isn't it?

It's, it's a really horrible kind of world and young Jessie is led down there and you really don't know, you know, she's a young girl being Sort of followed by this guy,

Sidey: It's a lot.

Dan: with, yeah, with, with a gun who's got two guys on string hanging in, in front of him in a car wash or whatever it is. Yeah, it's, it's a fucked up scene

Reegs: I think Lee diffuses the situation by taking, you know, by playing up to the guy and photo in Um,

Dan: some kind of hero.

Reegs: yeah, and they get away and then they've heard about some fighting that's happening and Joel the journalist that's traveling with them has got a real hard on to get involved with the fighting, the time.

It's what it's an adrenaline junk. It's what keeps him going. And so next day they do go into the aftermath of a battle and we get some really cool scenes because we get we do get in the action scenes. The photos being taken at crucial moments.

Dan: and white, don't we?

Reegs: We go black and white. We get other little photographic effects as well.

Just to really hold a moment. Just feeds.

Dan: it is beautifully shot as well, isn't it? Because you get that at one point they're out JC Penney's and there's a helicopter and a shopping cart and just the kind of

Reegs: just as pure imagery goes. That's quite cool. The shots of America burning. Yeah.

Dan: Apocalyptic kind of scene. And she's had that after that scare when the with those guys strung up, she just says, you know, take a few shots of this, just get behind the camera again. And she's mentoring young Jesse a little bit and trying to look after her and, and maybe sees a little bit of herself in her as

Reegs: Definitely.

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah. The next time the They're kind of, I think it might be the battle, you were talking about the after battle, where there's a guy pinned down behind a pillar and he's just getting shot at by some military guys and his buddies are trying to put some covering fire to get him out of there. And she just seems at this point to be fairly recklessly, just, they've got press on their helmet and she's just leaning right out and just

Reegs: She doesn't know what she's doing at all. She's being manhandled around,

Sidey: manhandled around. And you're like,

Dan: she? Pulling her back and he's grabbed her

Sidey: a

Reegs: when to go, had a

Dan: t shirt and a vest and he pushes her out and he's kind of laughing a little bit and smiling He's as you say, it's all a bit manic. He's he's obviously getting a kick from this rush And she takes some amazing shots one in particular

after

this guy's been shot.

He doesn't get out. They put the smoke bombs too late. He's he's like Yeah, it's like he run now and then afterwards they put the smoke in kind of cover where he would have been done so

Sidey: hopeless.

Dan: pretty pretty horrible And then they call up the stairs afterwards And there's one guy going help me help me and they like bang just like executed dead

Reegs: It's savage,

Dan: And it really is there's I mean, these are you know, the same country people, you know It's it's crazy It's nuts.

It's all crazy.

Reegs: And it's a sort of a ragtag army because like you've got a militarized force, but they're fighting against guys in Hawaiian

Dan: shows, militia, isn't it? Yeah. It's,

Reegs: it's not quite, yeah, not quite the same thing. So, but we, we also get other little fleshed out details of this world. We find out that some places are staying out of it that, you know, both their parents sets of parents, I think.

Confess to being like, Oh, not involved. They're just burying their head in the sand, Missouri. I think it was.

Dan: on their farm pretending none of this is happening.

Reegs: Yeah. So they keep making their way across town. A couple of things that worth mentioning. There's a little sniper battle that they come across. They come across this really dodgy Christmas scene with a corpse in the middle of the road that and then they encounter a sniper, you know, where the movie starts to speak about one of its themes.

There's a guy pinned down that they get to and he's like, who is it? It's trying to kill me. What are you trying to do? I'm trying to kill him. Like, you know, that's, that's the central explanation. They do eventually get him. I

Dan: trying to kill him. Like, you know that's, that's the central explanation. We do eventually get him, think. At one stage, Woodley photographed her in the event that she was shot and she's like, well, what do you think? Like, you know, I'm doing my, doing my job. Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah and then at another point they're Traveling along the road a car comes up really fast behind them.

You don't know what's going on It seems a bit dodgy, but it turns out to be joel's mate a couple

Sidey: some bro dudes,

Reegs: release guys Yeah, some bros. They they he jumps from one car to another

Sidey: Seems disappointingly reckless.

Dan: and then Jesse, just for kicks, does the same, and this guy that she's never met speeds off in a much faster car ahead, and, They lose sight of her

Reegs: it gets uncomfortable real quick.

Dan: where the fuck is he going to go no he's okay He must be somewhere and then you see the car abandoned a little bit further up and you think Fuck this isn't good and they pull into a farm see them being led away by two guys in cargos, and You're

Reegs: one of whom is Jesse Plemons, which is Kirsten Dunst's real life husband,

Sidey: Yeah. The real guy.

Pulled out of filming And

He's like, oh, I know someone who could do this

Reegs: Oh, well, and I think he's the one of the, probably the one of the best scenes in the movie, really, when

Sidey: He's a scary scary

Reegs: him. What kind of American are you? Well,

Dan: are you?

Well, he, he was the, the heart of the guy who gave the heart to not

Sidey: It was Vice, yeah,

Dan: he was in Vice. Yeah, yeah.

Sidey: Different role in this one, he's a horrible, horrible bastard.

Reegs: He was in Breaking Bad as well, and lots of other good movies. He's, he's generally a pretty psychotic looking guy. And in this one he's wearing these like, little red heart shades that my youngest daughter has got about three different pairs of. Little plastic shades, and we, we see them. They've got, like, a truckload of bodies that they're just emptying into a pit.

Sidey: They've just

cleaned

Reegs: out an entire town.

Dan: yeah and and sam is there as they get to this scene and they're looking from behind a truck and they're seeing jesse and this other guy tony i think his name is being led away the guy who'd been driving the car

He's saying, look, if you go over there, it's death. These guys aren't, you know, they don't give a fuck. I'm telling you it's death, but they can't just do nothing. So Lee, Joel and their, their friend I can't remember his name. But they will walk over and yeah, sure enough.

Sidey: It's an enormous mass grave.

Dan: is enormous mass grave and they're trying to say oh look these guys are my colleagues oh this guy and he just shoots

Reegs: him in the head. Straight away, the

Dan: straight away because he's you know chinese american or and

Reegs: don't think we even find out where he's from, but it's when he just asks the rest of them, What kind of American are you? Yeah.

Sidey: goes on to jesse about that. Show me

Reegs: And it's really not clear, like, what the correct answer is at all for this guy.

Care, but definitely not the correct answer is from Hong Kong. 'cause he just shoots him. Goes, I never like

Sidey: you. He didn't really even look at him. He just shoots know.

He just, yeah. Pull. They were like, fuck. Just totally taken aback. And you

Reegs: he, he says Hong Kong, ah, Chinese and shoots

Sidey: him. Yeah.

Dan: And Joel says he's from Florida.

And then you got Wisconsin and Iowa or wherever it is in Missouri. And just as The shit is about to hit the fan and they're all gonna be executed. You're pretty sure. Sammy, who had hung back right? Just rams him with a car. Yeah. And Jesse falls into this mass pit and there's this scene, a drone shot of just from up above.

And she's just climbing on dead bodies.

Reegs: And he had already been talking earlier on about how it was really important that they were kind of like passive as journalists. They didn't, you know, interfere or interact with anything. They just documented what was happening. So for him to come in and intervene in this way,

Dan: in

Sidey: to on

Reegs: yeah, he

Dan: And he, well, he did have to. But as they're driving away, another guy opens a few rounds and it seems like Sammy gets clipped. He does. And

Reegs: He does. And he dies in this like

Sidey: you kind of don't notice him right initially defies a few shots. And I was just thinking, well, you know, this isn't going to come to nothing. Like someone's going to hit, you know, and then they're driving along and it's a few seconds later and Sammy says, we need to stop. And he's like, no, no, we can't stop.

We can't stop. And he goes, no, I can't drive anymore. And then you see the

Reegs: blood's starting to

Sidey: And he's fucked.

Dan: done his bit. They drive

Reegs: And they drive on, but we get, because now they're trying to get to the front line of past Charlottesville, I think. And they drive at night and there's just like, take tracer fire in the loads of like napalm and all sorts of shit.

It looks kind of beautiful. And

disturbing at the same

Dan: they get to this next sort of safe area lee is taking this wonderful photograph actually of sammy just slumped against the the window of the car.

Last photo dead I guess but she deletes it out of obviously decency for his memory and everything.

Reegs: But, you know, also contradicting what she'd said earlier. So she's starting

Dan: bit more

Reegs: of a spark of humanity a

bit

Dan: well, I think Sammy was a mentor to her and meant a lot to her, and which is said another part in the, in the film when another journalist kind of says, I'm sorry about Sammy.

I know, you you, and he were close but they want to push on to, to DC despite all the, all the shit that's going down. They want to, Push on to that final assault because the WF, the Western forces are closing in. And you hear that

They've surrendered

actually. They've already surrendered.

A lot of the American forces loyal to the president have have given up the ghost. But there's still those close Yeah, there's still

Reegs: guard

Dan: Yeah, there's, there's still a few to get to the president, but largely the forces all around. Joel's really pissed off because he thinks he's lost the story and Sammy's died for nothing.

But but all the same, they push on and find out there's still things to be done here. They're, they're holding out long enough for them to get there.

Reegs: And we get a gearing up scene set. I can't remember. I didn't write down any of the songs. I didn't have enough time this week, but the soundtrack was absolutely banging.

And there's gearing up scenes and it, you know, American parks and football state and American football stages and stuff, but with helicopters and Humvees and all sorts of shit assembled outside really cool

Dan: we know we're getting through Pittsburgh because it's like Ghost Stealers is written on one of the on one of the bridges as they get there. And as we get into Washington, D.

Reegs: Well, we get an absolutely furious final 25 minutes, really, don't we? A lot of fighting and battles now. And now we see, you know, they're fighting at the Lincoln Memorial, I think, at first, aren't they? And there's

Sidey: Fucking blown up, yeah. People

Reegs: getting blown up and the Washington Monument behind them.

Dan: And the journalists, they, they, they've met a few others at various points, certainly towards this last 25 minutes, and you've got the camera crew, who are trying to go, you know, right outside Washington, D.

1. here, and, and they're both, Oh, I've got some great shots of the Lincoln Memorial, what you got? And got this, that, and the other.

Reegs: shots in Lincoln Memorial, have you got? Sami

Sidey: talking

Dan: they earlier? Your Sam, Sammy has that uh, conversation talking about I want, you know, as Joel was saying, I wonder, you know, what it's going to be like when I get there and speak to him. And he can, you're going to be disappointed, man. All these These mad fucking leaders they're so disappointing though.

And he's been there, he's seen it. He's, he's been the guy on the, on the ground through

Who's

the the romanian guy chest chow chescue? And there was a couple others. He Yeah, And saddam and all the rest of it. He he mentions all these guys and he goes they're all you know, just

Reegs: it's all a big

Dan: a disappointment.

When you get there, and as they start going through as you say some really

Reegs: It

gets absolutely concentrated outside the entrance to the White House, which has kind of got this massive security wall erected around it and like a just a turret of gunfire that there.

So we get a long scene of them trying to take that turret out, which they eventually do. And then the presidential cavalcade, including the beast. That's the car that the president comes in, comes flying out of the White House and is immediately struck by a Humvee, I think, and taken out.

Dan: there's two or three, the television crew runs over because they're sure the president's in there.

Yeah,

Reegs: she straight away real she says he's not in there and goes straight into the the White heads straight for the White

Dan: there before,

yeah, they're in there before the So all the

Reegs: forces are, it's incredible. Yeah. So you get these shots of them walking round a real, you know, a White House, obviously empty

Sidey: White House down.

Reegs: disarray you

Dan: you know, It's

Reegs: He's safe and safe. Passage back. Yeah.

Dan: And those shots are all getting taken by the photographers and by Lee and Jesse. And one minute she's kind of arguing, the next minute she's halfway to the ground, the next minute she's, or second, she's, she's on the ground being shot and they're pushing forward.

Reegs: And by this point, Jessie is recklessly endangering herself now. I mean, even before the final corridor scene, in the battle,

Dan: Yeah she's absolutely addicted

to

Reegs: violence and carnage and the photo, um Call

Dan: bravery, call it stupidity um, and I don't know what kind of shots, I mean you could just stick your hand out and take a few shots for

Reegs: They are, and she

Dan: They are and she rushes out of course the one you.

Corridor before the president before the oval office. And

Reegs: She goes in a break in the battle. There's like a, you can hear everybody reloading and she runs out and you're like, what are you fucking doing? Like to take a photo. And she is nearly, you know, you, you hear a secret service engine, a gun cock and she's nearly taken down.

And then Lee, you know, in a moment that has been heavily foreshadowed comes out and takes the bullet for

Dan: she runs and she just kind of stands there

Reegs: She does. Yeah.

Dan: down.

Like, you know, like rugby tackler from the ankles. Don't don't stand above her and start telling her off. But

Reegs: telling her off. She takes three shots

Dan: Well, she takes two or three shots as she gets shot and falls to the ground and stunned for a second. She gets up, she hardly looks back and she goes into the Oval Office as the final three gunmen

Standing over the president about to shoot him and Joel runs to his end, doesn't he?

He said, no, no, wait there. I need a quote. I need a quote. It's a great quote he gives because he's just a piece of shit on the floor. Just like Sammy predicted. And he said, don't look at me. Don't look at me.

Reegs: kill

Sidey: Don't let them kill me.

Reegs: I thought

Dan: I thought he said, don't look at me.

Reegs: he says, don't kill me.

Dan: And he goes that'll do. That's exactly what they do

Reegs: And then it fades to white and another cool part of the soundtrack plays. And then as the, the, the white sort of develops into a photo, very reminiscent of the photo of Gaddafi been killed by,

Sidey: there

Reegs: of special forces standing around with the photo of the dead

Sidey: Yeah

Reegs: president.

Over the credits, Finn, the end done, done, dusted.

Dan: Yeah, I like this. I mean, really.

Really

cool in the way that it was shot. A really great compelling story, great characters,

entirely relevant

in in the way that the world is, is, has been so kind of opposed in elections and everything. And you just think you know, particularly after the four years ago when Biden was just getting into power and they're storming the Capitol and everything under Trump, you think, fucking hell, that wasn't too far off all this shit.

You know, it, it was it really felt like dangerous, like a tinderbox.

Reegs: Well, yeah, although the setup in this movie is very fanciful, the idea of American citizens shooting each other in some kind of ideological war doesn't seem that far fetched at all, does it?

Dan: and, and the way that the journalists are portrayed as you know, they're literally.

in front of people with guns, behind people with guns, they're in the mix without guns themselves just taking photographs I mean that's the only shooting they're, they're doing is,

Reegs: well, 'cause that's really what this story is

Dan: Yeah, the journalists.

Reegs: what it takes to be a war journalist, what you give up the cost the different approaches, the different ways that you might, justify it, and the dehumanizing of. It has on you and PTSD. It's not really about what the title implies it to be about, which you think is gonna be about like politics.

Yeah, but it's not.

Dan: no, it's this, it's this story of, of these journalists and, and their kind of bravery to, to get the story told

Sidey: It's weird because this is a weird detail, but if it's the president, they're depicting is Trump.

Reegs: I don't think it really is, though. I think it's just fascist.

Sidey: Because then, but then the people who would do the uprising, you'd think would be Republican anyway. But anyway, it doesn't

Reegs: Well, but I don't, that's what I mean. I think, well, the whole idea of Texas and, and California cooperating on anything is entirely ludicrous anyway. So it doesn't, it doesn't matter really. It's just the setup is, you know, kind of almost immaterial for the idea that could you see Americans shooting each other?

Yeah.

Dan: kind of all missing material for the idea that could you see shooting each other, yeah? Common sense approach like you can't fucking carpet bomb your own people. It's time for him to go

Reegs: up in the, up

Dan: No, no

Reegs: stakes in, in that regard

Dan: it's up in the up in the stakes in in that regard that you've got these two different sides But yeah, really good film really enjoyed it. I wasn't sure what to expect, but the the more and more I watched, the more and more I was gripped with it, really. And it, it did feel Lee was always going to die, that she

Sidey: felt that was not too subtle.

Dan: yeah, that she, she was always going to take a bullet for Jesse.

I mean, you could have, Written that

Sidey: from the first meeting I mean they

Reegs: Well, they, yeah. It's heavily, I mean, they discuss it basically, don't they? Yeah.

But it looks beautiful as well. This Phil, I dunno how much it costs, but it, it

Sidey: tell you I can tell you that

Reegs: cinematic look

at 50.

Dan: I think that's a bargain. I think it's an absolute bargain.

It just goes to show you don't need hundreds and hundreds of millions to to be able to put on a big production it is the storytelling it is the characters it is the the pace of the film as well, which was which was really good

Sidey: It's all about the pace.

Dan: and it's got loads of Just as on this road journey loads of little You I was going to say vinaigrettes but loads of little parts of, of the story that stick in your mind, like the sniper like the,

Reegs: I liked the dress shop where she smiled and she

Dan: shop and yeah.

And I was hoping at the end they might show a few of those photographs as, as they ticked out

Sidey: Like, like the Hangover?

Dan: they, they don't, but like the hangover, but with Paul kind of heavy scene, but they don't,

Sidey: I don't think it was that well received when it came out. And the metrics are not good for it either, but I really enjoyed it.

I don't know what

Dan: close to the bone for some people.

Maybe

Sidey: dunno. Maybe people wanted more commentary on the

Reegs: I was about to say, because it doesn't, I don't even, I think it barely even says the words Republican or Democrat.

Sidey: it doesn't. It doesn't say it.

Reegs: doesn't say it at all. There you go. So, I mean, apart from the tie thing, it's very divorced from that whole conversation, which is probably what upset people. They thought they were getting and the trailer kind of implied that

Sidey: Yeah, it does. More actiony

Reegs: More actiony and the what kind of American thing is phrased a little context is different in the trailer as well.

So, yeah, maybe they just didn't like the movie that they were getting because it was like I said, not for me. It was definitely not what I thought it was going to be like.

Dan: but Alex Garland's, you know British director, writer one of the, one of a real kind of You know, bringing a whole catalogue of amazing films and TV and everything and books, you know, I mean, I remember the beach was the first time I was introduced to him for the book because that was just huge.

Everybody had read

Sidey: than that down

Dan: It was, it was large. And he just keeps bringing out some amazing characters, amazing ideas. So

Reegs: some

Sidey: Strong.

recommend

Reegs: amazing

Dan: next. Strong

Fucking our weeks. this

this

Reegs: Number one in 80 countries, Beast Games is the streamer's number one unscripted show ever. It's had 50 million views in just 25 days

Dan: honestly, it's just, I, I was.

I was really anti watching this in the first place, and I, I kind of put it on today just because we're watching the pod.

I, I knew it was popular because this guy is he seems to have the Midas touch when it

Reegs: Well he is insanely popular with Not Our Demographic, isn't he? If you're under, like, 25,

Sidey: I

Reegs: he, this guy is

Sidey: like, I know that I'm not, I'm not going to get it because I'm not under the demographic, but I look at him and I just think, right,

Dan: Is a wronging.

Sidey: You look a wrong. And I just don't get the appeal. And I've watched a lot of YouTube, it's so baffling to me. So,

Dan: It, yeah, it's, it's like, ryan's world gone even worse. It's gone into adult's world and he's just manipulating and facilitating some of the worst kind of traits in people and putting it on tv.

At first on the internet and then on tv. And this is insanely, insanely popular.

Reegs: Jimmy Donaldson is the real life name well James Stephen Donaldson is the real life name of Mr. Beast. He went viral back in the long ago time of 2017 with videos like counting from one to 100, 000, sort of thing. But now he is worth an absolute ridiculous amount. He has been seen by literally billions.

He's had

Sidey: Yeah, I think you can go that thing. There's a a youtube revenue aggregator That will tell you how much the top ones earn per year with his amount of subscribers and it's just like Just an incredible number

Reegs: And he has made a fortune of which a large, really quite a large chunk of it, he has reinvested back in this show, Beast Games, which is a squid game style, Hollywood game. Reality TV reimagining asking people to cooperate and then betray each other in within, you know, the space of 10 or 15 minutes or the net or one game to the next.

And it's now six episodes in. So I'll talk about all those because you didn't watch

Sidey: No, I refuse to.

Didn't

Reegs: hate it.

Dan: First Sort of bit, and I must admit I skipped through it because I thought, oh, this is horrible. And bit I saw was a thousand people. Yeah. In

Reegs: in like a massive Amazon warehouse hanger. And it's very dystopian. They're all in these like

Dan: all in the uniform. Yeah. All in the

Reegs: dropping like 200 people dropping through the floor in one go.

Because they get something wrong just to all to falling to

Sidey: Yes. It used to pop up on my Twitter. Because I watched the telly through, An amazon cube thing so it will just immediately when you turn on it will give you like their latest trailer So that was one for about the fortnight.

I just kept getting it bombarded. That's another reason i'm like

Dan: Your chance is to win five million

Reegs: dollars. Yeah. And the first game he says, right before we've even started, I'm going to do a million dollars. Now you've got a minute. I think to decide whether you're out and you can have a million dollars, that's it. So if you go out, you get a share of it.

So one guy goes out after about 10 seconds. He's up on stage like, yeah, I'm going to be a fucking millionaire. And then obviously by the end of a minute, fucking 200

Dan: They will come out with

Reegs: they all end up with about 18, 19,

Dan: Yeah, just under twenty grand each.

So they

Reegs: they go home and then it's on to the next

Dan: That was

Reegs: The

Dan: They're the only winners, really.

Reegs: No, there's

a few other if you keep going the games are very cleverly designed They must have a team of psychologists behind them that make them come up with this shit Because they're fiendishly clever that the way that they play

But you can't be an arsehole to everyone because you might need to be their friend in the next round and very exploitative.

But and yeah, watching these people sort of come up with desperate sob stories from, you know, I

Dan: It's

Reegs: my kids to I want to be

Dan: like, you know, you you've got like a whole row of 10 people and if one person takes the 20, 30 grand bribe that he's offering, then the other nine go out with nothing, but you get, but if none of you press the button, then you've more chance to win.

No,

Reegs: you all go through, but if more than one of you does it, then you all go out or, you know, those kind of rules.

Dan: so he's just, oh, it's just, oh, it makes me absolutely shudder.

Reegs: A great aesthetic, very cleverly edited as well because there's a thousand people that start this thing and somehow through a thousand people and a thousand cameras that they had on his beast island and beast city that he sets up to, to kind of craft a narrative, a story through all of that

Dan: goes through in his like. Fucking blacked out clothes and a microphone going. Oh, why did you, you know highlighting the person that stitched everybody up going and they're going, Oh, well, I just did it for my family. I don't really know these guys anyway. And other people were just there in tears going, Oh, I fucking can't believe you did it to me, Jesse.

And then I, I've fucking known in two

Reegs: Oh, I fucking can't believe you did it to me, Jimmy.

And they're like, I'll fucking know in two minutes. None of them do it and they'll win a million quid. It's like, it's crazy the way that the also on offer a 1. 8 million dollar island in Panama. What the fuck would you do with that? If you owned

Sidey: probably give it to Trump.

Dan: If, one, honestly, one million, you'd it just, it's, it's horrible because though you'd have that million, you'd have the knowledge that you've fucked over those 50 people who have all got their own stories of how, why, and they want the money. It just seems like, Really nasty and a horrible way to to to win money to be honest That's why I said the only people that win are the people that just go straight away.

Yeah, i'll take whatever's going I wish a thousand. I wish a thousand of them had said straight away I'm out and that's it. The whole fucking game's over and they go. Thanks

Reegs: Well, it'll take a hundred bucks out of that million. Go home.

Dan: Yeah. Well

Reegs: they don't. And there is, you know, there's an ongoing lawsuit now from the people who didn't win and talking about the horrible conditions they're in because they stayed for five or six weeks in his custom built beast city. Yeah.

Dan: disgusting.

Reegs: yeah. it's as close to climbing for dollars. The running Man thing as we've yet seen. The thing, it annoyed me 'cause there's been a Guardian article that came out just today that's had something that I've been thinking about. It said the same thing, which is annoying, but it's like, he watched Squid Games, which has those like evil master faced overlord guys and went, oh, they're the good guys.

And went, decided to, to be like them,

Sidey: he recreated all the squid games things didn't he on his channel first he he did that first like the tug of war one and all that sort of stuff. He he pumped a load of money into doing that and You're kind of surprised that it doesn't get some sort of executive, you know, producer credits with games on this because it's so

Reegs: So heavily influenced, yeah, but it is, it's very well designed. I think this is, we've really enjoyed watching this as a family. Obviously watching other human beings suffer,

Dan: Yeah,

it's

Reegs: fantastic.

Sidey: fucking football. I don't need to

Reegs: don't I? Spurs fan, yeah. From

Dan: No, I wouldn't like my kids watching this to be honest. I just

Reegs: you fucking Puritan

Dan: no, I just I don't like him.

I don't like I'm not saying they wouldn't watch

Reegs: you know, have you ever seen that picture of an old man shaking his fist at a cloud? That's

Dan: That's me. Well those pesky clouds. But no, I am anti this guy and I am certainly anti this kind of way of winning money and It's just like it is a huge social experiment to see How far people would go for money and be stitching each other up and he's just doing it Lord and above him all doesn't there's no empathy in his eyes.

He's like he's got

Sidey: Yeah, I think he's dead. He's completely dead behind me Yeah,

Dan: dead. He doesn't give a fuck about anybody even the five million. He's given away It's like peanuts to him. It's like I would spend that on lunch

Sidey: I'm, not sure he can find joy in anything.

Dan: No,

he's just an absolute I Just want him to have no and i'm sure that somebody one day will go Hey, what about this and I just hope he isn't too big to fail or whatever because i'm sure he's just

Reegs: I mean, my counterpoint is that he does a lot of philanthropy and stuff,

Sidey: Yeah, but I don't even like that, it's, it's, it's charity for clicks,

Dan: Yeah, that's what he's only he'll only give money away if he everybody's watching, you

Reegs: does benefit people. So then that's a bit confusing, isn't it? Also just one final thought as well. This is contributing to what I see as a very much a YouTubeification of Amazon Prime. That's happening, happening at the moment with many sort of YouTube stars being pushed on us and YouTube content being repackaged as TV programs.

Dan: And really podcasts are the way that, that Amazon

Reegs: they should be doing that. So Amazon,

Dan: be

Reegs: listening.

Sidey: We're very bankable, I'd say, yeah.

Dan: Well bankable. Give us billions.

Reegs: So strong recommend for Mr. for

Sidey: Strong, strong recommend.

Dan: watch this.

Reegs: Strong

Sidey: I think maybe I will nominate next week,

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: possibly a Kaiju themed episode, I haven't fully decided yet, but that's the front runner at the moment. So as

Reegs: So as the sun sets on another week here at Bad

Sidey: week here at Bad Dads. You've

Reegs: so, I don't know.

Sidey: going on?

Reegs: to say sorry

Dan: dan's gone

Reegs: That's