Beats & The Family Ness

Beats

Dan: So Scottish theme this week is at the Powell.

Aye It has. Aye. Candy. Candy.

Peter McTavish, are you saying you know Well,

Pete: I'm not.

Dan: aye.

Sidey: Welcome back to the misty peaks and mysterious locks of the Bad Dad Film Review where we tread the cinematic highlands and navigate the murky waters of television with a dram in hand and a tale to tell. I'm your host Sidey and with me are Wow hang on.

Dan: and

Sidey: With me are two chieftains of chat, ready to dissect the very best of Scotland in film and

Dan: Hi!

Sidey: First

of all, we have Peter, the bonnie lad who loves his films like his kilts, short and entertaining. Then we have Dan, our elder statesman whose love for cinema is it. is as enduring as the ancient stones of Stirling Castle. On today's rollicking adventure through the heather, we'll unveil our top five Scottish things in movies and TV, celebrating everything from tartan treasures to cinematic shots of the rugged highlands.

Following that, we'll groove to the rebellious rhythms of Beats, a film that dives deep into Scotland's 90s rave scene with an authenticity that can stir the soul. And for a whimsical twist, we're paddling along with the family Ness. reliving the charming antics of Scotland's most elusive aquatic family.

If you thought that Scottish culture was just about bagpipes and Braveheart, Well, you're in for a delightful

Pete: possibly. I

Sidey: That was a struggle. Um,

Pete: Just went

Sidey: I should just point out also that all three of us were out yesterday for a right old,

Dan: Knees up. Right

Sidey: tear up.

Pete: Was like at one point, it was like a scene from train spotting,

Sidey: Galaxy.

Dan: There was just, there was a million beers, there was.

Pete: least, yeah, conservatively a million might even go for

a

Dan: a billion. There may have been that many.

Pete: Yeah, we like drank all the beers in the world. It was just we had a friend come visit us from from Spain

Dan: Yeah.

Pete: I used friend in its loosest sense there really We all just the Sun was out.

Dan: The sun was out. That's

Pete: we were sat outside beers in the Sun. We just got

Sidey: Yeah, it all got, a bit too much,

Dan: say when.

Pete: Yeah, ah

I lost all my gross motor skills by the end of the evening. I could like walking, talking, all of it went.

Dan: Well, I lost my phone, I broke my watch I,

I've

Pete: a little minor

Dan: hair.

There, there may have been, yeah, some accidents as well. All in all I'd like to say a memorable night, but I can't remember anything about it. Yeah.

Pete: we're are we getting too old for it all now or

Dan: A hundred percent. Yes. A hundred

Sidey: Yeah, but if like next week's alright we're going to go out and yeah, do it.

Pete: I'm out again Wednesday. Yeah.

Dan: Wow. That's

Sidey: We've got a day off Thursday, right?

Pete: Sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got, we got a day off Thursday. So I'm going out Wednesday.

Dan: Nice.

Sidey: I haven't watched for months and months and months, it

Pete: I haven't been on for months and months and months. It feels like, so I'm not going to go through everything I've watched. What I have watched Shogun, which was, which was really good. Although.

yeah,

there's obviously more to come. I guess that's probably the way to summarize that. What I have been watching, and it's,

I

don't like this, this sort of thing that happens where, you know, something will just go like viral and everybody's talking about it and everyone's losing their minds about how unbelievably brilliant something is when it's not, it could just be okay.

And that's how I felt about Baby Reindeer.

Sidey: Oh right, I've not even bothered to watch

Pete: having, honestly losing their minds about

Sidey: the guy looks like me?

Pete: what, the main guy in

Sidey: No, there's one of the weird sex people who looks a lot like me, apparently. One

Pete: What are the weird sex people? I'm now trying to

Sidey: Well, we'll look it up

Pete: Yeah, we will look it up. I'm gonna go with no. There was no one in it that I thought, oh, that looks like

Dan: But there are definitely weird sex people that look like

Pete: Yeah, I mean, I know you're a weird sex person. I just don't think you look like any of the, the ones in there. But no, I, I just thought it, I thought it was, it was good.

The fact that it's based on a, on a true story is kind of

Sidey: It's actually him, isn't

Pete: yeah, yeah. It's the actual guy kind of like reliving the, the trauma and, and so on, which is, That makes it interesting, but it's not like so like unbelievably brilliant and people getting like angry if you haven't watched it and stuff But I have watched it and it's all right

Dan: It's all

Pete: Yeah, and I've been re watching the Lord of the Rings films.

I can't stop it.

Sidey: it.

I

Pete: I just can't help watching them

Dan: They have a com. They have a comfort, aren't they?

Sidey: he? The

No, Kribbins! Is who

he is, Burden? Burden Shaw? Good actor, yeah.

Pete: Shaw. Good actor. Yeah. I

Sidey: so sorry

Pete: Anyway, Dan, I'm so sorry to hear that about Bernard. Go Daniel. Go.

Dan: Yeah I watched started to watch a film called Gifted with Chris Evans about him bringing up a, a His sister's daughter. And she's like a genius. And he's kind of trying to give her a normal life.

That's all I remember watching other than the homework this week. But I did watch something else. I just can't remember it.

Sidey: Mm-Hmm. I started watching a while back a a series called Sugar. I dunno if you recall, but I. I remember that I'd read the reviews of it and people were like, it's got a twist halfway through that is just wow.

And anyway, today I caught up with it and I got to the twist and honestly, please, please find a way to watch it. It will fucking blow your mind what happens. It's amazing.

Pete: What were you talking about there? Sorry,

Sidey: Sugar, it's called Sugar. It's Colin Farrell as a private dick in Hollywood and he's searching for a missing girl. It's And episode six has a twist in it, it is fucking, it is fucking staggering.

It's like a child has taken over that bit of the program. It's so, it's unbelievable. But it worked? No. Oh right. That's all. It's fucking, but it is the, it's the end of the episode, I want to see where they go with it in the next, like how,

Dan: yeah, so you're asking me to watch six hours of

Sidey: No, it's only half an hour episodes.

I think you'd actually like it's because it's like apart from that it's got that kind of like gumshoe thing of him trying to solve a mystery and it's it's got that it cuts a load of old school films in it

Dan: watching that on?

What

Sidey: it's on it's on apple tv plus but dare I say it you possibly would be able to stream it somewhere else

Dan: right? I've

Sidey: felt that way oh you've got a problem then don't do that and stay in school as well that was it apart from the homework I think we had a

Top five last week, which was seasons.

Do you recall?

Dan: Yeah, vaguely.

Does

Pete: everything But there are only four seasons, so how did you

Sidey: depends how you interpret it pete because it was salt week

Pete: Oh,

Sidey: the season seasoning

Pete: Yeah,

I see.

Sidey: So, we had down leafleys contributions which were

Thanksgiving, a cheesy Eli Roth horror. One kill is a woman roast in an oven and she is seasoned and then on a similar theme, the cook, the thief, his wife, and her lover.

They cook the whole

Dan: nice,

Sidey: Naked body and that's seasoned up. Fever pitch.

Dan: Hmm.

Sidey: either version love and football slash baseball.

Yeah. And nineteen ninety one to ninety two Leeds United the last champions.

Football season,

Dan: There you go. Okay, good seasoning

Sidey: interpretation and

Should just get on with the next bit of the show

Dan: do the next bit of the show, the bit that we always do next. Pete, you chose this.

Pete: Yeah this was, it was actually a toss up between two things that we were, that I wanted to watch for the child's TV segment bit with it being Scottish week and all I won't mention what the other one is, just in case anyone wants to throw it out there as part of the top five stuff that we do at the end of the of the episode.

But I chose four and it's got a special place in my heart there. So I'd, I'd kind of forgotten about it, but as soon as I thought about Scottish theme week, the family

Dan: Yeah. Yeah.

And I'd forgotten about it until that opening theme tune. And then I was like transported back 40 years ago.

Sidey: you wanna hear that theme tune right now?

I'd

Dan: love to.

Sidey: Wasn't it good?

Pete: Fantastic, and the outro is pretty good as well. Yeah, are we playing that here right now? Okay. Shame, because the outro is good as well. Another, another reason why I couldn't help thinking, I mean, this will mean nothing to the listeners, but a good friend of ours that we played football with for many a year, Mr. Duffy, whose nickname was Easton, I can't even remember why that is, but Things like the, the thustle wustle and stuff like that.

It, it, the, like, the family nest for whatever reason just reminded me of, of

Dan: this episode was Season 1, Episode 1.

Sidey: the origin.

Pete: yeah, the

Dan: but there was a, a one before that on the, on the YouTube,

Pete: no, there wasn't.

Dan: I think there might have been people. Anyway,

Pete: this was

Dan: this is the one that they do get given the Fussell Lothal. And it opens up by Elsbeth and Angus being told if, if they're going to, if they're going to

Come back soon because they're, they're having their lunch in an hour and they run down to the lurk and jump on what appears to be a green mound which is actually the be the belly or the back end of silliness.

Pete: now I, I had

like a bit of an issue with this. I was, I was watching it. I, and bearing in mind the episode's like five minutes long. There's a good sort of, there's a good sort of 30 seconds to a minute segment of them standing exactly where this, this, yeah.

Where the, where the, and they slide down. It's, it's from, so I'm trying to, if, if you're visualizing it, basically this, this,

Sidey: know where it's junk was? Yeah. Yeah.

Pete: basically where they slid down. Like on the tail, it's the underside of the tail, so they would have at some point had to get involved with it's bits

and

Dan: must have, because as we find

Pete: must have, because as we find out later in the episode, there's tons of them, so they have to like, procreate

Dan: so they had to like, procreate somehow. I don't know what

Pete: don't know what encounters you've had, but most genitalia Is is where Angus and El Smith were bouncing around in my experience anyway.

Dan: Angus and Elspeth, well,

Sidey: Anyhow.

Dan: Anyway, we're going down a rabbit hole there.

Sidey: This is silliness, like you mentioned. He's got himself wedged in there.

Yeah. head first. Yeah.

Dan: And it's, it's when was it Terra, Terraness, or? Fearness or another, well, angriness comes.

Sidey: Fero. Ferocious. Ferocious. Ferocious. And Her highness.

Dan: And Her Highness.

Are called yeah, well, it's ferociousness that first points out that, They're human and to Angus and, and Elspeth and they need not be there because they're human and we don't play with humans.

Sidey: That's her, that's her decree. That's her royal,

Dan: then the queen comes to say that but they bow and they curtsy and,

Sidey: yeah. The kids are all right with all this like pretty much straight away. They're not, they're not freaked out. Yeah.

Pete: away. But it would explain, if that's the kind of like the Ness, like the Nessie code or whatever, it would explain why there's only been some very fleeting sort of sightings of the Loch Ness monster, or monsters as we, as it turns out, because there's more than

one.

Dan: more than one. She the froze Elspeth and Angus.

I can't believe I keep forgetting his name. Some rope, which they loop over a tree branch, tie around silliness his feet and they all give it a big pull to, to pull him out. The,

Sidey: That's right. Yeah

Dan: the branch of the tree actually cracks under the she weight of silliness. And a wave is created.

Sidey: So Her highness is wearing an outfit.

Dan: That's right.

Pete: Yeah. And so this is it.

Ferociousness.

Sidey: I think ferocious has got something on too, but silliness doesn't which implies that he's just

He's bollock

Pete: yeah. Well, he is silly, so maybe he's forgotten to put his clothes on, but you're right, when you see all of the Nessies, there's some

Dan: Oh, you're jumping way ahead, Pete, because at the moment we've only seen three

Pete: No, I know, but, I'm just, it's a little teaser

Dan: Let's oh yeah,

Sidey: mean it's not that far, it's only five minutes. Yeah.

Dan: You're

a good, sort of, half the show

Pete: Yeah, well, I do like to go short with the kiddie

Dan: this tsunami that has been created is silliness is being splashed back into the lock comes and soaks an innocent bystander who's just having a munch in a, in a

Sidey: Got a jeg or something probably,

Dan: And the wave kind of, clears out him in a car and everything.

And when he comes to, he sees the monsters, three of them playing together or four of them at that stage.

Sidey: I'm

Dan: not sure

He doesn't see the children, but he jumps in the car, which hilariously is filled with water. So he needs, he needs. I'm surprised there was no fish just slapping out there. But he gets in the car, which still starts Good motor.

Mm-Hmm. And he starts going to inness

Pete: You, you know that because there's a sign that says

Dan: Inness.

Pete: And then what I noticed is on, on one of the corners, there was a sign halfway around the bend that said bend.

Dan: Yeah.

Pete: Which was strange. And, and Inverness as well. And I think he crashes into

Dan: Well, he does. And, and at that point, he sees all the other nesses that you alluded to just a few minutes ago, Peter. Yeah. Yeah. And there, when we say a lot, because the queen is given a thistle whistle each to Angus and Elspeth. And they give it a toot on that

Sidey: On

Pete: thustle

Dan: thustle wattle. On the thustle wattle.

And loads of nesses pop up.

Sidey: Yeah.

Pete: And again, and the purpose of that is that if ever Angus and Elspeth get in trouble, all they need to do is toot on their thustle wustles and a Ness will, at least

Sidey: will answer the call

Pete: themselves.

Probably the one that's most appropriate for whatever

Sidey: Yeah, I'd

Pete: spot of bother that they've got themselves in. Very simple formula to

Sidey: But this dude,

who's

Dan: who's got a number plate says not one. He is heading towards Inverness. He goes straight to the police station and he's screaming still

Pete: So

Dan: as he goes in. Officer McFuzz points out. Actually, look, it's April 1st. I'm not falling for this old trick. And that's

Pete: that's the end of the episode of really abrupt

Dan: Yeah. But

it finishes on a high with that joke. And,

Sidey: and then the theme tune

Dan: and then you go straight into the theme tune. And I remember this actually fondly from when I was a kid. I used to really like this. I mean,

Sidey: it's created by

Dan: 16 years

Sidey: it's created by Peter Maddox of Maddox Cartoon Productions.

They also did Penny Crayon and Jimbo and the Jet Set.

Pete: I remember

Dan: Wow, I remember penny coin.

Pete: I don't remember Penny crayon,

Sidey: it has that sort of familiar Yeah. Animation style of the drawing.

I

Pete: I think the good thing about this is that it's not on long enough for you to, like, overly hate it, or yourself, like you say. So, the theme tunes at either end are great.

Sidey: They're the best thing about it.

Pete: They are the best thing about it, but at least, just as you're getting to a point where you're like, what the fuck's going on and where's this even, oh, that's the end, okay, I didn't mind that.

Dan: Yeah Everybody's got red hair

Sidey: Yeah,

Pete: Yeah.

Dan: because they're in Scotland,

Sidey: they're score touch.

Dan: Stereotype that they can wedge into this is in it. Everything from tartan to haggis to Loch Ness and Scottish

Pete: right at the beginning there. I've, I've just noticed that the second episode is called Professor Dumpkov's Underwater Telescope. And I wish we'd watch that now.

Dan: we might do afterwards. Five minutes of

Pete: name.

But yeah, it was like a nice little, a nice little sort of trip down memory lane.

Sidey: It's good.

Pete: Yeah, I don't think I don't think I'll necessarily I happen to have it on whilst there were kids in my lounge and none of them Like paid any attention to it So I don't know if it's something that we'll we'll carry on with but i'm glad I went back there Anything else to add to any of that?

Sidey: Nope. No,

Pete: No, okay strong recommend

Sidey: Massive.

Dan: recommend. Okay, dan's gone

Sidey: 2019.

Yeah.

not to be confused with Beats of 2019.

Pete: Yeah, that is confusing.

Sidey: silly wanker did the same title in the same year. Yeah.

Dan: year. Well, which one did we watch?

Sidey: Scottish one.

Pete: Well, we watched the Scottish one and I, and I, I did notice that there was an American film called Beats in 2019 as well, but I assumed that seeing as it was Scottish themed week, everyone would watch the right film.

So if you didn't, more for you.

Dan: But I did.

Pete: Excellent.

Sidey: Yeah, it starts off with some Polaroids, I think. if I remember rightly of some characters and then, and then

Dan: Just as the the credits are kind of rolling in but then you get to two young guys.

It's 1994.

Sidey: It's, it's off the back of the criminal justice bill where people are not allowed to have fun.

And specifically the way it's worded is about, you know, Amplified music with a fast repetitive beat or something like that. Words to that effect.

Pete: I think they even in the build part like qualified the sort of like the acceptable number of beats per minute and stuff like that genuinely because it was what they had to do.

They couldn't just say, Oh, it's a gap. We have we want to play because it was basically. They were trying to pass legislation to stop illegal raves, but they couldn't just say, well, illegal gatherings or whatever that, so they had to make it like so specific that it was around the actual music itself.

Cause it like, so, I mean, racing obviously kicked off with like the, you know, like the acid house kind of fight days. And then yeah, underground and then sort of underground raves and, and indeed overground ones, like as in, you know, legal ones and so on were. massive, like, even here in Jersey, we used to, there used to be like weekly raves, but like organized ones, but then they'd have the bunker parties and stuff like that, which I was lucky enough to go to a few.

And so this is right in the slot of like sort of nostalgia for me, obviously I wasn't in Scotland doing any of this, but

Dan: but no this scene was it was the length

Pete: Massive. Yeah. And, and it was, it was like the music sort of scene that, that like grabbed hold of me more than any other, I guess. And a lot of that music features in this film. So.

I remember hearing about it, but reading how it was basically pitched as like two lads because it's a bit of a coming of age film. So you're not. It's two lads who've never been to a rave before, who are now just about old enough to, you know, know enough people and be accepted to, to like, join in with it.

But these raves are gonna be closed down, like, imminently, so it's almost like a first and last chance to go and experience it and have the best night of their lives up to that

Dan: point.

And so we, we meet these two boys, both in their individual

Sidey: in their pants

Dan: in their pants, just

Pete: it?

Yeah, it's Spanner.

Dan: dancing to

Sidey: it's a phone call, isn't it? Spanner Jono. Yeah. Jono. And you're on the phone and, and he's like, I, I've been waiting for fucking weeks to get this track and record it for you. And so they playing it on his stereo and he is got the handset of the phone up to the, the speakers. So, and then they're danced around.

Jonos. Mum walks in and she's like, what the fuck? You know, what are you doing? And, and he's more sort of tidy and their, her family are obviously quite aspirational and. bit more prim and proper. And as we meet Spanner, he is not that

Dan: he lives with his brother Fido.

Sidey: the first introduction we get is his brother just sort of forces him out of the flat.

Just in his pants

Pete: Yeah, what's he doing? He's doing something and his brother comes in and just, yeah, like you say.

Sidey: and his brother just says, I've got fucking stuff to do. And then just throw some clothes out the window and you're like, oh, it's

Dan: yeah, he's on a house in a housing estate.

Sidey: grim looking estate.

Dan: And

it's.

Notice that obviously it's shot in black and white as well.

And for that part, it really works. Anyway, straight away is, you know, the, the light and everything. It's not a dark black and white. It's it's almost like you're watching it in color,

to

Pete: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It

Dan: does have so many different tones and things in it. Yeah, it doesn't detract from from the film. I imagine it was something to do with the budget.

Maybe that, you know, it can

Pete: there's also, because, I mean, we'll come onto it later, but there's a scene where it does go into colour towards the end and maybe it was to, I think it personally what I took for it was meant to

Sidey: it's it's because their their surroundings are grim and then when when they're having the rave and it's all euphoric, then you

Pete: exactly. Yes. It's like going from the bleak cause their lives, their existence is fairly bleak. Like not, it's not as bad as train spotting, but it's still, I mean, Spanner,

Sidey: a dead end. This is a dead end town.

Pete: drug dealer, violent brother. John knows in a, you know, like a

like a fractious sort of family set up.

His mom is Laura Fraser. Who is Lydia in like, breaking bad. Like, you know,

Dan: Right, okay.

Sidey: Oh, okay.

Pete: Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: He's, Jono's left school, I think is the implication, and his stepfather has, got him a job in some fucking awful like Poundwell's type shop and, and he's getting grief and not having the labels all perfectly aligned. And

Pete: a

Sidey: like completely miserable existence.

Pete: Just

Dan: and you, you, you'll see just as he's Like being thrown out of his house Spanner Jono is just leaving with his family to go to this job.

But he just turns up on this bike, doesn't he? And he goes there and you can see then that the family really don't want their son hanging around with this guy. And, but there's a glint in his eye and he's got, I've got to go, I've got to go. And he's following him on the bike, isn't he? Going along and dad's all.

Robert, the policeman, he's really not happy about it. But there he is in

Sidey: We don't know at this point that he's, that he's

Dan: a policeman? No.

Sidey: They, the, the two lads then later on, they go meet up, I'm not sure what exactly, it is like a underpass or something.

It's like some fucking grim,

Dan: it's

Sidey: it's just a meeting. Yeah.

Dan: building,

Sidey: just a meeting place where everyone turns up and they just, there's a pirate radio station that they all listen to. And this guy is just broadcasting these banging tunes, but also this call to arms and we're going to have this f mad party details to follow and it's just, you know,

Dan: drip feeding

Sidey: stoking up the crowd, getting everyone like interested in this massive rave that's going to go down.

But there's three. Lassies there and they give them the two lads shit. They're too young and you know, you can't come with us You've got no money and you're fucking like dead weight, you know, we don't want you hanging around with us and then the police pull up, Just just for them fucking like gathering and listening to fucking tunes.

And that's when he

Pete: set

Sidey: stepdad gets out of the car and he pulls him to one side and says sarge Let me speak to

Dan: he's trying to be nice, isn't he? He's going, Ah, Johnny, what are you doing

Sidey: says a funny line about Spanners haircut, he goes, look at his fucking hair, even that's criminal.

Dan: criminal. Yeah, which it is, and it gives him a bit of a laugh. And you think, oh, he's trying to be nice, you know, he's trying to

steer him away. He

Sidey: was caught, you know, at this point I'm thinking, well, you know, he's like, obviously a bit of a wanker, but he's caught between having this job and all this other shit. Obviously he's still a prick, but it gets a lot fucking worse. So the, the, the crowd disperses and everyone goes about their, their business, but Spanner finds a flyer.

That because the girls have tried to like shoo them off and not dish any information. And I think they, they don't know about this pirate register or how to find it, but it's on this flyer that he finds. And then he starts listening to, to it and he gets the goss and then it cuts to jono who's trying to because he's like hideously shy and like completely bereft of confidence so he's trying to get this in his bedroom trying to give himself a pep talk and like smacking himself if he's going gone come on jono and then just in the background you can just see his bed start to move and spanner's just hiding in his bed he didn't know he was there and he's just laughing at him what the fuck are you doing

it's brilliant

Pete: that is good. And Jono's got this, I've never seen this actor before and I've never seen him in anything else, right? No. He's got this amazing ability to have this, like, vacant, almost, like, bewildered, slightly frightened look on his face, like, all the time.

It's like a perpetual, kind of, like, look of, like, like, yeah,

Dan: Is it in the deep

Pete: lack of confidence, like, like, visually, like, both of the actors in it, like, put in an incredible, kind of, like, performance.

Sidey: But this, this scene sets the tone for what's going to happen with their friendship. Because his family are very strict, John. And you guess that's why he's so, short of confidence. Because his mother, like, runs him down. And it doesn't sound like he's, they just don't want him to be friends with Spanner.

And they can hear some commotion

Pete: it's, it's, it's two, it's twofold, like one, like Spanner himself is, is, you know, based on his appearance and, and like his behavior and so on. I mean, he's, he's like, he's, he's likable, he's lovable, you know, he's a bit, he's daft, you know, he's, he's gonna do like dopey stuff, he's gonna get people into trouble, you know that much, but he's got a good heart.

Like, you already know straight away that he's a good, where it, but I think the biggest issue is his brother is, is a known, like, criminal drug dealer. You know, drug dealer and obviously the, the, the stepdad's probably got a load of intel on him. And it's like, this is Fi Smith, isn't it? Is a surname? I can't remember.

Yeah. Fi this is Fido Smith's brother. You, you don't want him. I mean, like, we probably all had friends when we were younger that parents were like, well, you know, you want to give him a bit of a, unless I was

Dan: that person. But

Sidey: he's not, he's not supposed to be in the house. And I don't think they obviously know. that he didn't bring a friend home with him. So when they hear some commotion upstairs, his mom comes out, he's like, fuck, you gotta hide. So, Spanner hides in the cupboard while she gives Jonah a pep talk and also says, look, we're fucking getting out of here.

You

Dan: And don't be hanging around with that

Sidey: And he sort of tries to, yeah, and she says, they are scum, that family is scum, you don't want anything to do with them. And then she goes to put she picks up some of his clothes, goes to put it away, and just opens the door. And what does he say? He says something like ding dong.

Dan: Yeah,

Pete: Yeah. Geddy's got his top off, they've both got their tops, they're like in their pants, pretty much, again. They're

Dan: they're not quite

Sidey: I did wonder towards the end if there was gonna be a gay sort of subtext to it. 'cause they have the scene in the

Dan: They're just mates that love each other though, aren't they? Yeah.

Pete: They're just comfortable in each other's, like, in each other's company like, clothed or not, yeah.

Sidey: So he's, like, well and truly persona non grata after she found him there and spooked

Dan: and truly, for selling on

Sidey: the old man a prick or something. He calls him, he goes,

Dan: found it

Sidey: It's

Dan: there and

Pete: scene, I don't know if we've already seen it or whatever, he's like, where Spanner's just trying to get Jono to go in and call his boss a massive bellend.

Sidey: He

Dan: goes, Oh,

Pete: to do, just walk in and say, you're a massive bellend.

Sidey: don't respect your

Dan: Yeah. And he goes, Oh, I'll get it wrong.

I'll, I'll just say that, you know,

Pete: an authoritarian with a massive bellend.

Sidey: So it cuts to the morning after this this scene. And. We get to see a little bit more of Spanner's home life. It's fucking awful. He's trying to have some brekkie and Fido's there with one of his cronies and they're talking about something.

It sounds like He might potentially be in trouble with someone further up the chain because he's short of money for whatever it is and Spanish is trying to have some cocoa pops but the milk's been finished and this leads to a bit of a dust up where Fido just doesn't want him chirping up in front of his

Pete: up, where Spanner just doesn't want him fucking chapping up in front of his crew.

But

Dan: he gets beaten down, doesn't he? Because Fido is not having

Sidey: He turns the, he turns the hob on one of those coil, you know, the old coil ones where it's, you know,

Dan: really, really red

Sidey: and holds his face right next to it. And I think he does actually

push it

Dan: does, he pushes his head down into it. Then he gobs in his Coco

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: Jono's come in at this stage and he's just kind of, you

Pete: Still got that look on his face, Don, like that

Dan: frozen with fear. I mean, and it leads anyway to Fido and his his mate going and leaving those two boys alone in the

Sidey: house, not before you see where he sts his money

Dan: and he sees where this drug money or you know, his ill gotten gains have gone into and That's it spanner goes.

Well,

Sidey: well, they, they have a talk about, he says, I need to talk to you about what my mom said and all that.

And they have this. thing and he says, you know, so when you, because he didn't know that Jono's family was going to move, that was the first he'd heard about it and he said, well, you know, how long? He said, about a couple of weeks and he's got this brochure of this development where they're moving to. And you can tell it like, obviously, devastating to people.

Spanner because that's his only mate. It's all he's got in the world so he's fucking devastated and he's like right fuck it. We're gonna go to this rave. He nicks the money Jono's like that is a fucking bad idea.

Dan: do that, you, you know, he's I'm not

Sidey: kill you

Dan: But they do, they run downstairs and then Jono pulls out. He's going, look, I can't, I've, I've got to get home. I've got to get home right now.

Sidey: Work and

Dan: got work and, and all the rest of it. And Spanner says please, please look at him in the eye.

And no, no, I can't do it. He goes, please, mate, please.

Ah, Jesus. And you can see he's, he's softened the dream team. Me and you will do it. Like, you know, we've all been there where we've been talked into

Pete: Oh, yeah, yeah. Last night I

Dan: Yeah.

There we go.

Sidey: he says he says he's going to kill you. He's like, well, he fucking batters me every day. So

Dan: batters

Pete: gonna do? Yeah. Yeah. He's just resigned to it anyway. So why not have a bit of fun in it? And there's almost like a desperation in, in. You know, he's like, I've got a fucking shit life. He doesn't say any of this, but he's like, I've got a fucking shit life.

This is gonna be,

Dan: an escape.

Pete: party's

going off, and we've gotta be there, and I just wanna have some fun, and live, like, my best life. Like, I know I'm gonna get battered, like, tomorrow or whatever.

Dan: so that's it. He, he grabs the money and they go back to this abandoned kind of, they,

Pete: They, what they do is this scene is fucking incredible. Like I was pissing, I'd forgotten about this because I'd watched it before. So they, they call, so Spanner calls up Jono's boss and says, Jono's not going to be in work today. And then he was like, Oh, why, why is that? He's deed

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: Jonas

Pete: jono's face is like like what the fuck like what are you doing?

And

Dan: And the girls are watching him as well as the, he's delivering this line and he's just laughing

Sidey: rolling around laughing.

Dan: saying were you moving anyway? And he's going, I was gonna get transferred.

And he goes, oh, well I guess now it's not

Pete: Yeah, yeah, yeah

Dan: and and they were off, they're off on the, the beginnings of the, the journey to go and find

Sidey: Well, the three girls, the three girls take some convincing, but once Spanner shows them, he's got some readies.

They're like, okay, sound we'll get some tennies in and all that. And they're away and they go back to this squat. Where the pirate radio

Pete: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like an abandoned warehouse or

Sidey: Yeah, and we get to meet someone who's probably even worse than Fido.

Pete: Oh, the guy with the

Sidey: Yeah.

Pete: Yeah, but he's another one of Fido's

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah. You can find that out later about this scene. He is fucking unbelievably,

Pete: he's, he's yeah. Again, but such a believable character. Like someone that you just know is a fucking snide. He's obviously like, you know, he's, he's been seeing one of the girls. She's got a black eye.

Like it's, it's obviously, you know, suggested that, that he's, he's done it. He's very controlling. And like,

Dan: Terrible haircut,

Pete: he just kind of like keeps like putting his hand around her head, like almost just like playing with her, like Yeah, like a possession sort of thing.

Sidey: But they're going, we know when the party is, it's Friday. We know where it's going to go because the D man, whatever his name is,

Dan: DJ, yeah, yeah, he's the radio

Sidey: it now on the on the pirate radio thing.

And they're getting ready to go. And he's like, Laura, you're not fucking going to that. You know, he's, he's, he's telling her what she can and can't do and they're like, fuck off. You know, you know, one of the girls stands up to him and says she's fucking coming. He calls her a fat whore and smacks her.

So there's a bit of a dust up there.

Dan: her a fat

Sidey: gives Spanner a right fucking posting.

Dan: So there's a bit of a dust up there. He's going all kind of scrappy do on him, isn't he, as they say later on. And then Laura, she gets one of those lava lamps and fucking clubs him around the head with it. And he, he's, he's out for a few minutes.

And they managed to grab their shit together and they all leg it as he takes, like, chase after him eventually. But they get in the car and they, they piss off.

Pete: Yep.

Dan: It's,

um.

Sidey: It's

It's is it cat has given

Pete: Oh, the D man. Yeah.

Sidey: It was a pill. It was acid. I thought it was acid, wasn't it?

And he's like, okay, sound, but he's the driver. So it seems fairly reckless. They jump in this Volvo's Volvo 240. My old man used to have one of

Pete: right. Yeah, yeah,

Sidey: Really fucking shit

Dan: And

they're going down the highway

As

Sidey: they're going down the, the motorway, he starts to come up and it is just no fucking state to be behind the wheel at all.

Well,

Dan: the wheel at all.

He says, he says to

Sidey: He says, he says to Spanner, lend me your glasses. And he's not wearing any.

Dan: He's pulling his face up. So they've got a plan, they've got a separate reservation

Sidey: fucking central reservation and they steer it over, managed to pull over. And out of the lot of them, Jono's had three.

Not even lessons, but like, he's been behind the wheel three times. One of them made a complete cunt of

Pete: Yeah.

Sidey: But he's their only hope. So he's able to get them there, but a lot of shouting from passing vehicles and get off the fucking road and all that sort of

Pete: yeah. Because he's driving like an old lady.

Dan: he's on the inside

Pete: But then, but then they start seeing like more vehicles that are obviously go into this rave as well. So they're, they're like, well, well, we're going in the right direction.

Then they just follow, follow the others and, again, this is like them, like, you know, Spanner's come up with the money, Jon O's now stepped in and driven them to the party and everything, so they're becoming, like, accepted as part of the group, you know, because it's his cousin and they're older and everything, but they're definitely finding their feet in the group, and yeah, they get to the, they get to the rave, I mean, like, before that, like, Jon O's had a bit of a wobble, they have a bit of a not a set, a bit of a heart to heart in the toilets where, you know Jonah goes for a piss, Banner follows him in, and then Jonah doesn't, saying again that he didn't want to go.

And then, you know, this, this is where Spanners, I know, I know your family think I'm scum, I was there, your mum said it, it's, you know, like, it goes, but, you know, we're, we're friends, like, you know, we have a laugh together, and I know, I know I get you into trouble, and I'm sorry, but, you know, we're, we're gonna have the best night of our lives, and he, and then, that's redeemed when with the fight, and, and Jono jumping in.

And yeah, they have another Dream Team moment. And yeah, they, then they start heading off. I mean, I was getting, first time I watched this, I was getting goosebumps just going, fucking Not, I wish I was there in that setting, necessarily, with those people or whatever, although they'd be fun to, like, sort of, you know, observe over the evening and everything, but just that feeling of going to an illegal rave and,

Sidey: But before that I was getting mega anxiety in the car journey when it first when he was fucked and then when John I was trying to I'm like, Oh

Pete: They're not gonna get there, yeah,

Sidey: You know they are They

Pete: They do,

Dan: well they do, they end up in this you know, field. You can hear the music booming behind the trees and there's a building that they're going to go into. And Spanner brings out a couple of XT pills I'm guessing.

And he says Do you want to, you know, you don't have to and he's really nice about it. He's not putting any pressure on his mate. He goes, you know, fucking in for a penny in for a pound. We're going for it now then. And as they tell you, he's got, I've got another one if you want one later on night. He's just got that extra level of nutness about him, but then they, they're heading into the, into the rave.

So you're getting a lot of the music now, you're getting a lot of the soundtrack, which pretty much takes over for the next 15 minutes of the film or

Pete: orbitals play when they're like going into it.

Dan: and you've, you've got this this scene where he's coming up and he's not altogether loving it. He's just finding his feet,

Sidey: It's just a lot of people

Dan: there's a lot of people, there's a lot to take

Sidey: His confidence is really low but then that Laura gets hold of him at one point and just come on. We'll get out. We'll get out of here for a minute or two. They have a little smooch.

Yeah. And and she kind of She sort of, just another friendly face for him really. She doesn't want, she's not looking for anything out of it, it's

Dan: it, she's just,

Sidey: but they have a nice chat, you know, she's like, you fucking really came through for us there. She's got her magic hands,

Pete: yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sidey: And so he is obviously buzzing off that, and then you get like this more like extended sequence then with color and a lot of visuals

Pete: Well, yeah, it's, it's then, then when they're, they go, when Jono and Laura go back in, that's when you get this, I mean, and this, this, this fucking happens, like, the scenes, like, you know, in ecstasy, with, you know, with the music playing, and everyone, like, is then at the same, like, heightened, elevated state at the same time, and it's just, like, I fucking love you, man, I fucking love you, like, everyone, guys you've just met, like, half an hour before, you're, like, you're telling them that you love them, and they're all, like, yeah, you Hugging and dancing.

And just dancing however they want to dance. Just losing their

Dan: And it, it kind of beams in above them, like a, a drone shot if you like.

So you can see them in this sea of people. And D Mans come as well, who's the coolest kind of. DJ guy and he's giving her a big hug

Sidey: he's got it together a little bit.

Dan: Yeah. Everybody's

Sidey: after just driving

Dan: just having a, the ball having a great

Pete: And then like you say, he said it goes into this like quite extended sort of like scene of. color and visuals and then and then it starts actually just playing some of the you know like the swirly visuals and that and they used to do it like on channel four used to get in at like about two three in the morning and channel four would have like just rave um you know music shows on and it would just have like visuals and that would it Just sit at mate's houses and stare at the screen, watch all the swirls and spirals, and listen to the music and stuff, and it's like, It's like a good, like, nod to, to that.

Like, again, massive, like, nostalgia fest for me.

Sidey: but the euphoria can't last forever unfortunately, The feds

Pete: Well, you've got the police coming

Dan: The

Pete: and Fido and his cronies are making their way there, but not before he's, like, dealt with, like, Wanker Goaty Boy, where he's just fucking booted him out of the car and

Sidey: Yeah, he keeps chirping up, we've got to do this, you've got to do that, oh we have to do this, and he just has enough. And he screams at the fellow driving, pull over, pull the fucking car

Pete: Yeah.

Sidey: over! He's

Dan: as he gets out, he really slips doesn't he, on the grass

Pete: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dan: He's like, oh fucking hell, because they're driving off, yeah. And

Pete: But what,

and then Fido gets, it cuts to him in the car and

Sidey: He doesn't

Pete: he says, and, and I didn't

Sidey: the fuck are we doing?

Pete: like, what the fuck are we doing?

Yeah. Or, and, and I didn't actually know if that was like a, you know, like,

Sidey: He's like, am I really going to go and kill my brother? I think it's what he's thinking like,

Pete: Yeah, exactly. I think it was almost like an awakening or an enlighten

Sidey: He's obviously been left he's obviously been like the

Primary sort of parent in a way and it's not like it's not like he's gonna say right I'm gonna get him on the straight and narrow and drop him off at school or anything I'll be it's like well, my original intention was to drive up there and probably kill him And he's probably, I think he's just having a like moment of like, fuck, what am I really gonna do that?

And I guess pretty

Pete: Yeah because I hadn't really like noticed that the first time I watched it and and we'll come on to like the end and everything like that in a bit but it it it kind of explains it a little bit better for me but but anyway the the at the the rave itself like the police

Sidey: You hear the the police briefing before they go in.

It's like hit them fucking hard They say they're really going in there to fucking brutally not just ask them to turn the music down. They've they're they're there for blood.

Pete: yeah it's a riot it's a riot squad

Sidey: They're right squad and we see one of them kid up is Robert the he's not actually the father in law, he's just dating the mum at this point.

Dan: But then she's moved in he's given a

Sidey: and he's, he's the son and he said you're not my fucking, I'm not your son. That's, that's happened. So there's obviously tension. And yeah, he's there fucking banging the

stick against The shield and all that sort of shit. And they, they pile in and it's fucking violent and they batter a few people, but then Then Jonno is given a right fucking dusting. robert. It is by

Pete: yeah. You don't realize it until the camera pans up.

Sidey: well,

Dan: it until the camera pans up.

on the floor, isn't he? Just been really thumped hard with the sticks. And then there, the parties obviously gone. Spanner is I nearly keep saying spud because it's a lot of train spotting vibes going through a lot of this film. But, but Spanner is in the morning then trying to find Jono and he can't find him.

He's really worried about him. He's asking everybody. They're all asleep in the car and everything and he's just beside himself with worry for his mate. And they have to leave, you know, as well. And he's thinking, fuck, you know, we came with him and now we're leaving without. So he goes straight to

the house and

Sidey: of all, the, the mum has had to go to the station because he's been pinched.

Robert phones him up and said, yeah, he's here.

Dan: You know,

Sidey: you know, it's just routine. Just just ask a few questions and he can go. But when you see him. You

Dan: bruised, he's

Sidey: got a few marks on him. So just don't be too scared and you think he's a fucking arsehole. And when I was expecting his face to be more black and blue, to be honest, but it's, it's more his back.

When she, she clips him around the ear, or when she gets him outside and then she gets him home and helps him take his shirt off. And she's like, Did the police do this to you? And he says, yeah, and you can tell for her, she's like,

Dan: bottom's dropped

Sidey: you know, you didn't deserve this from listening to some music out

Pete: at a party. Yeah, yeah,

Sidey: she's like, nah that guy's

done. And then he says, where do you get those flowers from?

Pete: Oh yeah,

Dan: flowers from?

Sidey: and he just he just sees the label says with condolences from from the supermarket. It's amazing.

Dan: which

is great. But then the door, yeah, the doorbell rings and it's, it's Spanner outside and his eyes are just like, and they say it's black and white.

Right. So, you. You know, it's, it's close on his face, but you can see the tears welling up in his eyes. And he's going, it's Johnny and the relief when she says, yes, he's there. And he, he turns around and he gives it a lot of thumbs up to the people across the road. The girls waiting across the road. And she just slams the door in his face after he gives the school bag

Sidey: Yeah, he gives us the bag and then

Dan: And then he rings the bell again and he goes, Can I

Sidey: And it's sort of like the realisation to her, it's

Pete: can't stop

Sidey: them fucking being mates. He is genuinely concerned for him.

So he comes in and she's like, take your fucking shoes off. And

Dan: hi, sorry, sorry,

Pete: like, take your fucking shoes off! Take my fucking

Dan: Yeah, he's, he's just got no concept of, of how to live and behave around And

Pete: And it is such a good scene there. 'cause he, he goes up into the bedroom and obviously like, you know, Jon o's in, in bed and he's all, he's, he's fucked.

He's, he hasn't slept, he's like battered and, and everything and like span's going in there trying to almost like, he wants, he's gonna be like, Jon o's gonna be fucking furious with me. Like, he, he's never gonna want to, he's like, I'm fucking, I'm so sorry. Like I, I keep getting you into trouble and everything like that.

And Jono's face just breaks and that, that kind of like, bewildered, scared look that he's had on his face is just gone. He just like, his face lights up, he was like,

what a night, best night of my fucking life. You know, like he's, he's done drugs, he's been to this party, got off with a bird, He's all like, you know, he's, he's, I mean, yeah, he took a hiding at the end of it, But it's kind of

Dan: like,

Pete: just lived, he's lived a lifetime in, in one night sort of thing.

And it's, and then,

Sidey: Then they have this really touching Moment because they, he, they, this is it.

They kind of accept that this is,

Pete: Yeah, maybe the last time they'll see each other. I mean, their intentions are to obviously stay in touch

Sidey: but they'll never have that night again. Yeah. He's moving

Dan: he says to him, look after yourself. I think he

Sidey: but he does he says to him look after yourself i think he knows that that's there once they once he moves and you know he's stuck in this shit old town and

Dan: this shit hole

Sidey: hugging each other

Dan: he's

he's got his arm around him, isn't he? And he's just like staring up at that. The, the paint job on the, the roof. That's like swirly hard paint.

Sidey: I started thinking about space at this point when he's, you know, the courier guy, everything, everything's a rave.

Pete: Erased. Yeah.

Sidey: they have that I think is this, does this end now or do they have, they're more?

Pete: No, that's, that's the end. But then they have the, again, the, the,

Sidey: Yeah, I found this unnecessary.

Pete: Yeah, yeah.

Sidey: don't think we needed this

Pete: No, I don't, I agree, I agree with

Sidey: Not that it necessarily took anything away from the film, but I thought that moment, them two there, would have been a great way

Pete: yeah, yeah, it almost just kind of like, yeah, just like punctured the moment

Sidey: he got, you got then Fido, he, he went to prison for assaulting a police officer. But then after that it was like a reformed character and he volunteered at soup kitchen and you're like, really?

Yeah, I guess. Okay. One of the girls had died cause she'd been ill and she just had been hiding it. She

Pete: It was the, the one who did put the acid.

Dan: one works in an investment banker after finishing

Pete: Laura had done well for

Dan: So, so it gave you a little bit of like,

Pete: Yeah, but like you said, I, I,

Sidey: There's no need for it.

Pete: that wasn't, so I tell you what, the first time I watched it, because I was just waiting for, I hadn't, I missed the kind of like the, the part in the car, like I said, with Fido, he's going like, what the fuck are we doing? And I'm still waiting for the retribution for the, for the money.

And I was still thinking like, and the film ended and I was like. But that's gonna be severe, right? Like, it's what I had thought at first that, you know, Spanner's got to go and face the music and his brother is a fucking horrible piece of shit.

Sidey: brother is a

Pete: But, watching it the second time in that moment where it's almost like he's,

Sidey: Because he does get to the rave and they see him and, but nothing happens. So I guess he sees him and he just thinks, oh, I

Pete: Well, yeah,

Sidey: deal with it later, whatever.

Pete: yeah, he probably like, but he doesn't seem like the sort of character where there'd be a lot of self-reflection or, or anything

Sidey: it was a bit of a strange one.

Pete: but yeah, it, it qua, it qualifies as well that his mum, John o's mum split up with the, with the

Sidey: copper. yeah.

Pete: And, and he moved down to somewhere in England to

that Yeah. He

Sidey: London anti terror. And he

Dan: somewhere

Pete: Yeah.

Dan: England, so Put an end characters that hadn't been in it that much you suddenly found out what had happened to them and things but yeah It wouldn't have mattered if that didn't happen at the end, but it detracted nothing from

Sidey: what was

Dan: was a really really good funny film again It huge kind of train spotting vibes.

A few

Sidey: Yeah, a

Dan: a few scenes that you could look at. Oh, yeah Definitely without trainspotting there is not this scene or is not that but it had a lot of personality and kind of originality in itself as well the music was fucking brilliant and it was like it just hit that nostalgic Note even like for people that wouldn't be into that scene at that time You would recognize people and characters that

Pete: abs. Absolutely. I mean, the, the soundtrack, it is fucking baggy. Like you got like prodigy in that, like Outlander vamp is like one of the best fucking like old school RA tunes of all time.

You got left field in there, orbital, like Joey Beltram, it's fucking brilliant. It's like right in like the sweet spot of music that I love. And huge nostalgia vibes for me. Like I said, my experiences weren't in that setting, but like, you know, similar kind of like, levels of excitement, because I was only about like, 14, 15, like, going, like, getting into these sorts of things and everything, just like, having the same kind of, and then, you know, like, doing what the scene kind of like, demanded that you did, and like, coming up with people, and all of that sort of shit.

It was fucking like, it was incredible. I love this film. I really, really loved it first time and, and watching it again the second time. I think the performances from the main two guys

Dan: Brilliant. Really good. Yeah

Pete: That the, the, so Spanner, like at Lorne McDonald, he plays Renton in a stage production of, of Trainspotting.

And you can kind of see, even though he's more a Spud like character in this, you can see, I'm surprised i've not seen him in something else because he just you know, this is a guy like that is a believable You're a hundred percent sold on that being that person, right? And yet this is obviously somebody's been to like acting school and he's had to But just like the looks on the faces like and everything that they do how they carry that off.

It's like it's fantastic It's a great cast. In fact, they all kind of like the horrible goatee guy is a good actor as

Dan: one famous in it, is there? You know, I mean,

Pete: Laura, Laura Fraser is quite,

Dan: would be the

Pete: was in Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, so,

Dan: But, but no, no kind of, you know, big name to carry this film through and it didn't need

Pete: Well, I mean, I, I, it's what, I rarely, rarely look at the budget, but I did see the budget for this, did you see it?

Sidey: didn't look, I've seen

Pete: 000

Sidey: 000. Wow.

Pete: I mean that like again what you can make obviously it wasn't a big but you know I think it made three four hundred thousand or something like that. But again, it's the sort of thing that you know, like we'll get a cult following and

Sidey: yeah,

Pete: Hopefully a lot of people it's for me if you're that if you're the age that we are I mean I said to Riggs, he's not here tonight.

Dan: early thirties.

Pete: Yeah, I said to reach you got what I reckon breaks This would be right up his

Sidey: Yeah.

Riggs was speaking to the drum and bass and stuff, so that sort of kind of fits I really loved this as well, it's one of the most fun, like, enjoyable films I've watched for the pod, it was really, really right up there, and the stuff that we've watched are

Dan: there with the stuff that we've watched.

You remember that one? It was

Pete: I can't remember.

I know which one you're talking about, but I can't remember

Dan: The name will come to me at some point. There's Dazed and Confused, which is kind of American all nighter and people getting together a lot. But this was maybe because it was shot in black and white. Maybe it's in Scotland. Maybe someone's doing the characters, but it just had a little bit more humor and authenticity, I thought.

And yeah, a winner.

Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah. Strong recommend.

Dan: It's good.

Sidey: Yep, we'll finish off the episode with our top 5 as we always have done. Do you want to go first, perhaps?

Pete: Well, I, I can, I have to feel, I need to apologize to absolutely everybody. I, I, today, I was meant to do my research for the top five today, but today's been a long, hard struggle.

I mean, I'd spent 34 pounds at the garage buying,

I,

Dan: buying

Pete: what I was buying. Yeah. Like, just to try and get rid of this this hangover. So I haven't, I'm fairly ill prepared for this what I thought. Probably would come up quite a lot because I just said this would be like Scottish themed stuff.

So it could be anything that is like stereotypically Scottish in a film, but it could be a Scottish film itself. And we've already reviewed two of those, and I'm sure there's others where that are worthy of mention, but it kind of like struck me that there's, there's a lot of Scottish actors and a lot of very kind of like, you know, like prominent ones, character actors.

But, you know, like in Game of Thrones is a good example where. Is obviously a huge hit and it's like a a bit of like a us british kind of like collaboration or whatever But so many of the like the main characters and the and the the bit part characters as well are played by scottish actors and not even you know they're putting on different types of accents and so on so you wouldn't necessarily know that know that they're scottish, but I guess the the main one would be forgotten his name now one of the start rob stark.

Is it rob stark? I can't remember his name, I can't actually think or function today,

Sidey: His name

Madden.

Pete: Steve Madden.

Sidey: Yeah.

Pete: So him and other people as well.

Dan: Well, you got james mcavoy john mcgregor

Coltrane and Graham

Pete: called him. what sort of things have they been in

Dan: McTavish played dwelling in the whole bit.

Pete: Is that the old dwarf? You don't

Dan: no, he's, he's quite deep

Pete: Ah, with the bald head. And the beard, and he headbutts things all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Dan: I

mean, McAvoy's been in. Tons of stuff in the last king of Scotland. Yeah. He was in

Pete: Scotland right there in the

Dan: Robbie Coltrane's in one of my favorite ever films. Let it ride. And

Pete: in what? What was your one?

Dan: let it ride.

Pete: It Ride, no. Oh, is this the fucking The

Dan: The horse racing one we did

Pete: one where

you

Sidey: bookie? Was he the

Dan: He's the bookie. It's,

Pete: is, isn't he?

Dan: absolutely brilliant. He's seen them come. I've seen them go.

Pete: Yeah,

Dan: one

Sidey: He's also in

Dan: He's also in that.

Pete: most famous and, and obviously Cracker from back in the day.

Dan: Ewan McGregor, obviously we featured him in our midweek earlier in the week. And just while we're on the, The train spotting cast I've got the Flying Scotsman, which was a film with Johnny Lee Miller the true story of Graham Obrey, who did the the bicycle.

He actually, remember they invented, like, on the bike, Speed Bicycles,

like cycling. There was one guy who, who invented

Sidey: he invented

Dan: like a new bicycle and it was like Graham Obrey, his name was, and it was kind of in a Superman position and he, he just, Because it was more aerodynamic

Sidey: Oh, did he do a land speed

Dan: he got some kind of record But everybody else is on like normal bikes and he found this loop loophole and won it's a decent film actually, because he effectively builds it with a washing machine.

His

Sidey: Is that why you've got that bit of the

Dan: That's why we've kept it. Yeah, just because I might put my old

Pete: might break the land

Dan: Yeah, i'm going for it. They actually changed the way that cyclists have to be on their bikes After This because he had like pads to lean forward and his feet were up and all kinds of

Sidey: the UCI that does all that

Dan: Yeah, so but they hadn't at the time so he was able to kind of um get that and that was a pretty good film

Sidey: That was a pretty

Pete: heard of him.

Sidey: What about Sean Connery? He's, he's sometimes, sometimes Russian, sometimes,

Dan: english

Sidey: other, but always

just gonna do my normal voice. , English,

Pete: Well, yeah.

Dan: Spanish

Pete: Kind of like Arnold Schwarzenegger in that, in that sense. Like no matter what nationality he is, he's got exactly the same voice.

Sidey: Who's someone else I was thinking that always does the same? Must

Dan: It must be so hard as an actor when they were like,

Pete: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Michael Caine,

Dan: When, when he's, he's kind of growing up and, you know, same as Schwarzenegger. Fucking hell, who's like, you're just off accents, but they got so big now. It doesn't matter.

Pete: I think Connery is like completely and utterly acceptable that no matter what film he's in and what nationality he's meant to be, he's just Sean Connery.

So in his, in his,

Dan: he's Sean Connery. Oh, you know what you're

Pete: and, and everyone gets away, and Caine gets away with it as well. I

Sidey: The best film ever made, we all agree, is Geostorm, and that stars Gerald Butler,

Dan: Yeah,

Sidey: who is Scottish.

Dan: he is

Pete: Ger and Ger. Gerard Butler is, is a, a man. I think about from time to time actually, yeah, like in the 300. I mean, fucking if yeah, if I was gonna play, you know, try Dick it would probably be his in that film.

Dan: Is that because he just looks so big?

Pete: so, yeah. Like that's what a bloke is, is, is like, yeah. At the, at the top of his game is looking at, I know a lot of the, the six pack is like, you know, airbrushed

Sidey: No, it's not. not? No, it's real. Okay,

Pete: excellent, and he's also he's also in we've talked about it before the film is I mean, it's actually a stupid film, but

Law abiding citizen, which the scene where he like tortures that guy who fucking rapes and murdered his family

Yeah, the with you know, he's like cut his head off and his fucking hands and feet and it's just like honestly If I close my eyes, I can still see, like, the, the, like, what they find the next day when they go to that warehouse and so on, so, that haunts me, but the film itself is actually fucking daft, isn't it?

He like, he's tunneled. He's already tunneled into the prison, into the cell that he's going to that he knows he's going to be put in. So that when he gets sent to prison he can then escape from prison and he can basically come and go as he pleases, which is

Dan: Yeah, he's whichever film he's ever been in, it's been fairly ridiculous. But there you

Pete: Is, is that, that's a fairly damning,

Dan: Yeah, no, but it's

Pete: 300's a solid film, there's no, that's not a ridiculous film in any sense.

Dan: Maybe he's least ridiculous then, but it's still quite ridiculous. Well, maybe I am Peter, but there's talking of Loch Ness, we, we did there was that with Ted. He did a, a, a Loch Ness film,

Pete: I did.

Dan: I did.

Pete: it was.

Dan: it was, it was really

Pete: was

Dan: Yeah.

Pete: good. Yeah, well,

Dan: Yeah. Well, who else would you

Pete: it be?

Dan: I, I've got a Brave, which was a 2012 animation. Did you

Pete: It's really good. I really, really like it. Yeah, Sienna loved it for a,

Sidey: This is when they started doing the Girls as the, the heroines as opposed to being the damsel in distress, isn't it?

Yeah,

Pete: distress, isn't it? Do you

Dan: There may have been. There may have been. Braver.

Do you know the difference between Bing Crosby and Walt Disney?

Sidey: No.

Dan: No. Bing sings Walt Disney.

Pete: Um,

Sidey: Swinton is Scottish.

Dan: And I'm

Sidey: And I one day I'm going to nominate Michael Clayton. Has anyone seen that? Yeah. Have you seen it? Oh, it's very good. Yeah, it's going to be a midweek at some point. Some characters for you. Groundskeeper Willie.

And he gives us a little glimpse into what it is like to be Scottish in the episode Homer Badman, where Homer gets done for he takes the suite off the babysitter's arse when she gets out of the car and he gets done for sexual harassment and groundskeeper Willie comes to the house and he's got a secret videotape because he says, my hobby is secretly videotaping couples and girls.

I don't Didn't want to come forward because in this country, it makes you look like a pervert, but every single Scottish person does

Pete: He's also,

Dan: he's also who is it? A detective came up in a recent episode I watched and he goes, You just look like the the, the prowler of Aberdeen. And Willy kind of just sort of looks and runs off quick, like. I

Pete: I can't

remember the, the context of it. I think Homer's like stealing the grease from

Sidey: Grease him up real

Pete: Yeah. Yeah. He's like, he's like siphoning it out of something, out of the chip, like the fryers or whatever, and, and, and girls keep it winning. Comes you my retirement, Greece

Sidey: Another animated one would be Shrek, who is somehow Scottish.

Dan: Yeah.

Pete: Well, it, it's, it's, we've talked about this before. It's, it's another iteration of Myers doing a, a really not that authentic Scottish

Dan: He is Scottish, isn't he? Doesn't he have a Scottish No, but he's got a Scottish mother or, or

Pete: he might do, but it's not a

Sidey: did Fat Bastard as

Pete: either a fat basan and in the, the film that we reviewed as well,

Sidey: Married an axe murderer.

Pete: yes.

He puts he's doing the, it is the, he's the dad. In a family and he's got he's scottish in that. Yeah, so it's obviously his his thing that he does a lot.

Dan: Peter, do you know Andy Murray's bedtime?

Pete: Oh

Dan: ish?

Pete: Yeah. No, I got there myself Yeah that's that's not that's not one of your best ones.

Dan: well, here is my very best joke ever.

Okay? It's not. Do you know that Mickey Mouse can fly a plane? But Disneyland?

Sidey: Disney!

Pete: Disneyland.

Dan: Disney!

Pete: So Sidey, if I was to say to you if I was to quote to you, Unfortunately, most of the inventory think you're a prat. Ask them who they'd rather meet, Squadron Commander Flashheart, or the man who cleans out the public toilets in Aberdeen, and they'd go for

Sidey: Wee Jock Poupon McPlop.

Pete: Every time. Yeah. That's another amazing quote from, from Blackadder.

And so we actually played football with a, with a guy whose nickname was Jock. I mean, very Scottish name, Craig Cameron.

Dan: Jock McCameron! Jock

Pete: McCameron. Yeah, yeah. And I quite often called him Wee Jock Poo Pong McPlop, quite a lot. Yeah, Blackadder. There's also the, the Macadda, the clan Macadda. Yeah, and like, like breastfeeding a baby whilst like having pistols at dawn and stuff like that.

Yeah, like the Scottish get a bit of a rough ride in, in, certainly in British humour. As being a bit kind of, you know, like, no,

Dan: they, they used

Pete: little bit kind of, yeah, yeah, no, there was that being miserly, but also being a bit kind of like, not barbaric, but like, you know, bit like throwbacks, you know, all like, quick to, quick to temper and stuff like that.

Well, again, Game of Thrones, like, essentially, you look at, like, north of the wall, and the wildlings, like, they've all got, like, crazy ginger hair, and they're all, like, you know, run, running around in skirts and stuff. They're yeah, they're blatantly meant to be Scottish.

Sidey: anymore for anymore.

Dan: we've got a Scotty from Star Trek. Beam me up, Scotty. You've got a kind

of can it take any more cotton? Yeah, that's right.

Pete: Have the pooh

Dan: it doesn't have the power. Highlander. Obviously, Chris Chris cheese a Lambert.

Camembert. Chariots of fire the chariots of fire.

That was Eric Liddell who was a true story edit,

Sidey: Went on to found the supermarket.

A

Pete: was the

Dan: he was a Scottish minister running for God, wasn't he? Kenneth Branagh was in that, Nigel Havers and John Gielgud and Ian Holm and all those kind of guys.

Sidey: All Dead now.

Dan: all gone. Miss Robin Williams, Miss Doubtfire. I think she was Scottish, wasn't she?

Pete: Oh, yeah.

Dan: Billy, Billy Connolly in The Last Samurai.

Pete: Is he?

Sidey: He's in one with, judy den isn't, isn't he about the Queen?

Pete: Oh, yeah, yeah,

Sidey: But I haven't seen it.

Pete: but that's a straight part, isn't it? Yeah, which is like obviously

Dan: normally playing

Pete: comedy and so on. But my favorite appearance in a film of Billy Connolly is in my

definitely my favorite Muppets film is Muppets Treasure Island, which if you haven't watched, I, I want to,

Sidey: than Christmas Carol.

Pete: brilliant.

Yeah, it's better than Christmas Carol

Sidey: Wow, I've not seen it, but I will have to on that

Pete: I What the only problem is and I've wanted to nominate it for a while for the podcast But it's got quite an annoying child actor in it Which you'll hate and I think I've got my I've got it in my head that you hate Tim Curry as well well, you hate the what's it the Rocky Horror Picture Show, but Tim Curry is What's his name?

Long John Silver in it, but it's it's fucking brilliant. Like the songs are bangers. Yeah strong

Sidey: go over to the interweb? Yeah,

Pete: Yep, let's do

Sidey: We've had some, they're all Darren Leithleys. He's got Trainspotting, the worst toilet in Scotland. So I Married an Axe Murderer, the dad. Local Hero. all of it. Peter Capaldi's running if you want something specific. Various films of Ewan McGregor, particularly the early ones, more or less more or less guaranteed appearance of little Ewan.

Absolutely on the, on the telly. Majority of Scottish early 90s TV sketch show the most memorable of which was set in the council chambers of Stony Bridge. Sean Connery's accent in anything, and then like this one, stop making sense. We did it for the part of the talking heads. And I was thinking, where's he going with this?

Talking heads front man, David Byrne was born in Dumbarton.

Dan: Oh dumb button

Sidey: Yeah. So he's Scottish. And then the wicker man. Oh, God, no. That was a Scottish island. Outer

Hebrides or something.

Dan: There's

Sidey: And there's one other one, but it's my it's the one that I'm going to put in myself. So I will leave

Dan: you wanna, do you wanna put it in?

Sidey: Yeah. Skyfall, the James Bond film, the Skyfall, it's, he's obviously grown up in the Highlands of Scotland in this ancestral home.

Which they do. They like weaponize it. Right. And it all looks very nice and Scottish.

Dan: it does, it does.

Pete: It does. It's a

Dan: I, I, I will put in the flying sculpt man,

Pete: Okay. Well,

I'd surely have to go for Wee Jock Poupon McPlop.

Dan: a Weejock Poupon, wouldn't

Pete: room. Room for two.

Sidey: I think, it's not making sense to have to go in. That's

Dan: we might have to

Sidey: Riggs, Riggs might have one, yeah.

Dan: might have to go in. Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah.

We can go and die in our beds now or something. I don't know, because

Pete: beds now. I'm sure

people

Dan: two could spoon I think

Sidey: we put into this today. I think we've done

Pete: this today. I think we've done well all things considered. I'm

Sidey: efforts.

I'm

actually in the midst of a little moment, so I need this to end.

Dan: It's like, need

Sidey: I don't know, I think it might be your turn to nominate, but we'll figure it out on the text tomorrow.

We'll

Dan: thank you to the thousands out there listening and we hope that you have a great

Pete: If anyone's got any suggestions about how we spruce up the show, maybe like change the order of things, because obviously, you

Sidey: know,

we've been doing it this way

Pete: formulaic, and this is how we've done it for such a long time in that order.

So yeah, if anyone got any ideas

Sidey: shout. Yeah. Yeah. Nice one. All that remains is to say Sidey signing out.

Pete: Um

Dan: Aye, I've gone.